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dizzywhip
Dec 23, 2005

Kobayashi posted:

Also is swiping to go back broken in Finder now?

1st AD posted:

What I am not loving is that the two-finger page swipe doesn't work in Chrome yet, and it no longer works in Finder :confused:

Yeah, this is really annoying. You can actually restore the functionality by changing the two finger page scroll to a three finger page swipe in your trackpad preferences, but doing so removes the neat sliding animation between pages in Safari (there's no option for a three finger page "scroll" instead of "swipe"). I really like the animation, but breaking the swipe navigation in every single other app is too annoying.

I don't really know what they were thinking there. They made Safari a special case that requires two-finger navigation instead of three, and made every other app break when two-finger navigation is enabled. I think a much more sensible option would have been to make three-finger swiping the default convention for app-specific navigation with Safari's sliding animation working with three fingers, and have "global" gestures like spaces navigation set to four fingers instead of three by default.

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TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Petey posted:

Well, I read the way Lion works is by partitioning your disk on the fly. I figured that would have to be while it was off but I figured it was worth asking. Going to walk downstairs and get a blank DVD now :)

e: crap, forgot the optical drive on my machine has been freaking out and not recognizing DVDs. I can probably find a thumb drive - but has that been confirmed that you can just pop the DMG on a thumb drive and it works? For that matter, could I just put the DMG on an external USB HD and boot from there? Or are these thumb drives apple is shipping some kind of special deal?

e2: found directions! http://www.yourdailymac.net/2011/06/how-to-create-a-bootable-mac-os-x-lion-installation-usb-stick-or-external-hard-drive/

I don't know why everybody is making this so complicated? After Lion creates the recovery partition, you can boot from that and erase from Disk Utility there, and then do a clean install. You don't need to extract any DMG files or mess about with external drives at all.

japtor
Oct 28, 2005

Diabolik900 posted:

I've heard great things about TextMate, but keep in mind it hasn't been updated in YEARS. They've said they've been working on version 2.0 for a long time, but nothing's ever come from it. I don't think this is a good time to buy it at all.
Well it has been getting updates, they're all just maintenance updates. If nothing else they're still supporting the app at least and will continue to do so.

Rabid Snake
Aug 6, 2004



Does anyone know where I can a Java JDK for Lion? I'm trying to run an IDE and it keeps asking me which JDK to use and none is showing up. I downloaded Java for OS X Lion through Apple.com but I think that's only a JDE.

Edit: I ended up finding the JDK 6, it must be a bug with intellij IDEA

Rabid Snake fucked around with this message at 09:09 on Jul 22, 2011

Asshole Masonanie
Oct 27, 2009

by vyelkin
I'm looking for some kind of file synchronization solution that would behave like Dropbox, but would sync any folders I select on my computer to a server of my choice, since I have my own hosting and would like to not have to "upload" files manually with FTP. Does such a thing exist for OSX/is there a smarter solution for this?

shodanjr_gr
Nov 20, 2007
So I tried Parallels on my sparkly new MBP in order to virtualize my bootcamp partition. Turns out it installs a whole bunch of stuff and takes over file associations for some things on both the macos and windows sides. Is it possible to avoid this aspect of parallels? Particularly the screwing up of associations bit is extremely annoying....

Jaysus
Sep 17, 2004

"Hey, did you see my game against the Detroit Lions?"
I read through a few pages here and haven't seen much about it, but I lost the ability to scroll to the top/bottom of a page with 3 fingers in Firefox. Been trying everything and I just cannot figure it out...

dexter6
Sep 22, 2003
I see a lot of people talking about QuickTime, Perian, Flip4Mac, Mplayer, etc but haven't seen much mention of VLC.

Am I the only one who uses VLC to play anything on any OS?

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

VLC is my back up, I think the UI feels clunky but it plays basically everything. Movist with the Perian plug-in is the most pleasant to use imo.

DirtyWorker
Jun 19, 2004

What is Afrika.. You can not comprehend, what afrika is!

dexter6 posted:

I see a lot of people talking about QuickTime, Perian, Flip4Mac, Mplayer, etc but haven't seen much mention of VLC.

Am I the only one who uses VLC to play anything on any OS?

Deleted everything after installing MPlayerX from the Appstore.

damaca
Feb 7, 2009
There's now so many gestures that they nearly get in the way of each other, especially if you put an additional finger on the pad when you didn't mean to.

I loved the four finger gesture to see the desktop, then Apple decide that the 'spread' command is more appropriate. Does anyone else find this gesture as unintuitive as me? Why can't we have more than one option for our gestures, or is the average Mac user THAT loving stupid that they don't know how to organise things?

DirtyWorker
Jun 19, 2004

What is Afrika.. You can not comprehend, what afrika is!

damaca posted:

There's now so many gestures that they nearly get in the way of each other, especially if you put an additional finger on the pad when you didn't mean to.

I loved the four finger gesture to see the desktop, then Apple decide that the 'spread' command is more appropriate. Does anyone else find this gesture as unintuitive as me? Why can't we have more than one option for our gestures, or is the average Mac user THAT loving stupid that they don't know how to organise things?

I find it intuitive considering you actually spread the windows apart to get to the desktop with your fingers. :P That's just me though.

damaca
Feb 7, 2009

DirtyWorker posted:

I find it intuitive considering you actually spread the windows apart to get to the desktop with your fingers. :P That's just me though.

Every other command works when I want it to, but the spread command only seems to work when the computer feels like it. Maybe that's because every other command can be easily achieved with fingers apart from the thumb.

I agree it makes sense, but maybe I'm just being 'spergy about it :).

ior
Nov 21, 2003

What's a fuckass?
Any ideas on how to shrink the font size in the folder-tree in Mail.app? Having to scroll to see all my folders really suck.

Sankra
Jul 27, 2007

ior posted:

Any ideas on how to shrink the font size in the folder-tree in Mail.app? Having to scroll to see all my folders really suck.



Change it by going to System Prefs > General > Sidebar Icon Size. It will reduce/enlarge the icons and text size for Finder and Mail sidebars.

ior
Nov 21, 2003

What's a fuckass?

Sankra posted:

Change it by going to System Prefs > General > Sidebar Icon Size. It will reduce/enlarge the icons and text size for Finder and Mail sidebars.

Awesome, thank you!

Richman777
Jan 20, 2004

Porn Santa
This has probably been covered in the 20+ pages so far, but I suck at searching and couldn't find anything substantial. I just updated and Chrome is terrible. It seems to actually mess up the gestures.

I keep all my bookmarks synchronized between my windows 7 install on my other partition (dual boot hackintosh), and my two work PCs. Is there a simple way to synchronize your synced Google chrome bookmarks with Safari?

That's really the only reason I don't use Safari. That and my Chrome extensions...but I can live without them until Chrome is updated.

Accipiter
Jan 24, 2004

SINATRA.

FT posted:



I have been waiting for this option for so long.

That option was present in Snow Leopard. :ssh:

ndrake
Mar 29, 2002

You know, this is a damn fine cup of coffee.

Richman777 posted:

This has probably been covered in the 20+ pages so far, but I suck at searching and couldn't find anything substantial. I just updated and Chrome is terrible. It seems to actually mess up the gestures.

I keep all my bookmarks synchronized between my windows 7 install on my other partition (dual boot hackintosh), and my two work PCs. Is there a simple way to synchronize your synced Google chrome bookmarks with Safari?

That's really the only reason I don't use Safari. That and my Chrome extensions...but I can live without them until Chrome is updated.

http://www.xmarks.com/

Kobayashi
Aug 13, 2004

by Nyc_Tattoo
Lion is starting to grow on me. I used to have two spaces: One for activity, and another for monitoring (email, calendar, IM, iTunes). What I'm finding now is that I like to run Mail and iCal in fullscreen mode and treat them as their own spaces. I also reverted Dashboard to an overlay instead of its own space.

Question about software: Any recommendations for money management and accounting? I used to use MS Money; now I use Gnucash. But being a Gnu application, it is dreadful on OSX. I also use Mint.com and an Excel spreadsheet for forecasting. Gnucash is my actual transaction register of record, though.

gregday
May 23, 2003

Kobayashi posted:

Lion is starting to grow on me. I used to have two spaces: One for activity, and another for monitoring (email, calendar, IM, iTunes). What I'm finding now is that I like to run Mail and iCal in fullscreen mode and treat them as their own spaces. I also reverted Dashboard to an overlay instead of its own space.

Question about software: Any recommendations for money management and accounting? I used to use MS Money; now I use Gnucash. But being a Gnu application, it is dreadful on OSX. I also use Mint.com and an Excel spreadsheet for forecasting. Gnucash is my actual transaction register of record, though.

Moneywell

Petey
Nov 26, 2005

For who knows what is good for a person in life, during the few and meaningless days they pass through like a shadow? Who can tell them what will happen under the sun after they are gone?
So it turns out that Lion is incompatible with the Kerberos authentication we use at work.

(no, I didn't install it on my work machine; but I use my home machine to do work)

Good thing I fell asleep rather than install it last night! Guess I have to wait for our IT folks to unbreak things.

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten

Daveh posted:

For the timg fix, install NinjaKit which lets you use user.js files in Safari.

Huh, when I try to pasting the timg script into the "new script" box it doesn't seem to do anything. If I re-open the scripts pane there's a no-title script that I can't edit. Oh, and timgs still don't work.

Fungah
Jul 2, 2003
Fungah! Foiled again!
Has anyone noticed that mission control sometimes takes a second or two to launch? Sometimes I perform the gesture and there is a noticible lag and jerkiness in the animation. This is on a month old i7 mbp.

I have also noticed that when switching between spaces using gestures, if you reach the last space and try to scroll passed so that it does the "rebound" animation, all the items that were on the desktop disappear and don't reappear until you switch spaces again.

I really quite like lion, but there are a few issues which bother me, mainly to do with responsiveness and lag which worry me. If they are just bugs which will be sorted in time its fine but I'd really rather not have to reinstall from scratch.

Doctor Zero
Sep 21, 2002

Would you like a jelly baby?
It's been in my pocket through 4 regenerations,
but it's still good.

On a 2008 Macbook or a '11 i7 MBP, I don't see issues like that, so I doubt it's a general responsiveness issue.

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


On a slightly related note, I decided to try Lion on an old first gen blanco C2D iMac again..

Still sucks, I get graphics breakups just moving windows around, Launchpad and Mission control are retarded, I think it's the X1600 drivers fault since rebooting back to Snow Leopard runs just fine.. maybe it'll get fixed in 10.7.1 but I doubt it.

Anyone else using it on a 2007 machine or older?

unruly
May 12, 2002

YES!!!

Kobayashi posted:

Lion is starting to grow on me. I used to have two spaces: One for activity, and another for monitoring (email, calendar, IM, iTunes). What I'm finding now is that I like to run Mail and iCal in fullscreen mode and treat them as their own spaces. I also reverted Dashboard to an overlay instead of its own space.

Question about software: Any recommendations for money management and accounting?
I was going to suggest 'Cha-Ching', but MoneyWell looks much better right off the bat.

Edit: Add to that that Cha-Ching was bought by Intuit... Man, where have I been?

Also: I'm doing the same thing you are. The full-screenable apps I don't even worry about, I have a 'chat' desktop for IM (personal and work) and then a generic desktop for doing file operations and other non application specific tasks.

I really am liking Lion a lot. Certainly things could be fixed, but it's pretty awesome so far.

unruly fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Jul 22, 2011

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


I have a question about Lion that is also somewhat hardware related, so I think I'm going to cross post this.

My CEO has the newest MacBook Pro, and he uses it in the office. At his desk he has an external monitor that he hooks up to his computer, and he uses that instead. Before Lion he would power up the computer, close the screen to get the image on the second monitor, and then open the screen a bit for "ventilation".

I don't know how much of this is true, but he's afraid of it overheating with the screen closed entirely. However, with Lion just opening the monitor slightly wakes up that display. He doesn't want two monitors, but is also afraid of heat death of the computer.

Is there a way to turn off the MacBook Pro's screen? Right now the solution is to change the arrangement, and put the menu bar on top of the Samsung monitor, but when you put the Dock at the bottom of the screen it goes to the bottom of the MacBook's screen, under the external, in a monitor that's only open at a 15 degree angle. I had to put his dock on the left of the screen, which he dislikes. I need to restore this to it's default behavior of turning off the Macbook's screen when the external monitor is plugged in.

Another question would be if I turned on display mirroring, would it use the higher-res of the Samsung monitor? If it mirrors with black space that doesn't help either.

echobucket
Aug 19, 2004

Binary Badger posted:

On a slightly related note, I decided to try Lion on an old first gen blanco C2D iMac again..

Still sucks, I get graphics breakups just moving windows around, Launchpad and Mission control are retarded, I think it's the X1600 drivers fault since rebooting back to Snow Leopard runs just fine.. maybe it'll get fixed in 10.7.1 but I doubt it.

Anyone else using it on a 2007 machine or older?

My parent have a white 24" core 2 duo 2.16Ghz machine, but it has the Nvidia 7300GT video card in it. I guess I"m going to upgrade them, but your post is making me leery.

chizad
Jul 9, 2001

'Cus we find ourselves in the same old mess
Singin' drunken lullabies

Martytoof posted:

Oh awesome, I'm not sure why I expected them to not be Lion compatible yet. Thanks!

Yeah, I was kinda surprised myself. I had issues getting the builtin sysprefs to do what I wanted, so I checked Logitech's site just for grins. I didn't actually expect them to have a Lion compatible version on launch day.

Molten Llama posted:

The keyboard shortcuts? That's been moved to the Keyboard preferences now.

You can also (for some incomprehensible reason) turn keyboard shortcuts on and off on a per-space basis, so if you have an irrational hated of Space 2, you don't have to worry about accidentally jumping to it with Ctrl-2.

The keyboard shortcuts still work fine for switching between spaces. But in SL I could use them to jump right from space 4 to space 1 (or vice versa); that doesn't work in Lion unless there's some setting I'm missing.

Not sure if it's because I've got the option to include the Dashboard with my spaces/mission control turned on or if there's something else I'm missing. I haven't had a chance to really look into it yet, the stuff I posted were just my initial impressions of stuff that changed/etc after using the system for an hour or so after the install. Definitely plan on looking into it more closely over the weekend.

Doctor Zero
Sep 21, 2002

Would you like a jelly baby?
It's been in my pocket through 4 regenerations,
but it's still good.

IUG posted:

I have a question about Lion that is also somewhat hardware related, so I think I'm going to cross post this.

My CEO has the newest MacBook Pro, and he uses it in the office. At his desk he has an external monitor that he hooks up to his computer, and he uses that instead. Before Lion he would power up the computer, close the screen to get the image on the second monitor, and then open the screen a bit for "ventilation".

I don't know how much of this is true, but he's afraid of it overheating with the screen closed entirely. However, with Lion just opening the monitor slightly wakes up that display. He doesn't want two monitors, but is also afraid of heat death of the computer.

Is there a way to turn off the MacBook Pro's screen? Right now the solution is to change the arrangement, and put the menu bar on top of the Samsung monitor, but when you put the Dock at the bottom of the screen it goes to the bottom of the MacBook's screen, under the external, in a monitor that's only open at a 15 degree angle. I had to put his dock on the left of the screen, which he dislikes. I need to restore this to it's default behavior of turning off the Macbook's screen when the external monitor is plugged in.

Another question would be if I turned on display mirroring, would it use the higher-res of the Samsung monitor? If it mirrors with black space that doesn't help either.

Just convince him to close it. It won't burn up.

As far as the mirroring display resolution, it will dumb down to whatever is the lowest common denominator.

Molten Llama
Sep 20, 2006

chizad posted:

The keyboard shortcuts still work fine for switching between spaces. But in SL I could use them to jump right from space 4 to space 1 (or vice versa); that doesn't work in Lion unless there's some setting I'm missing.

Keyboard preferences, Keyboard Shortcuts tab, Mission Control. Turn on all the "Switch to Desktop N" options you want to use. They're good and buried.

TACD posted:

I don't know why everybody is making this so complicated? After Lion creates the recovery partition, you can boot from that and erase from Disk Utility there, and then do a clean install. You don't need to extract any DMG files or mess about with external drives at all.

Because the recovery partition doesn't house a Lion installer. It houses the capability to download the installer.

If you want to (and can) download 4GB all over again, more power to you, but when you erase the drive you're erasing your existing copy of the Lion installer.

echobucket
Aug 19, 2004
Well, I hit my first big software incompatibility with Lion. Office Communicator 2011 crashes when you try to send an IM. :(

Are there any alternative communicator clients for the Mac?

hannibal
Jul 27, 2001

[img-planes]

Kobayashi posted:

Question about software: Any recommendations for money management and accounting? I used to use MS Money; now I use Gnucash. But being a Gnu application, it is dreadful on OSX. I also use Mint.com and an Excel spreadsheet for forecasting. Gnucash is my actual transaction register of record, though.

I've been using Koku lately and like it.

Lum_
Jun 5, 2006

HTML5 posted:

I'm looking for some kind of file synchronization solution that would behave like Dropbox, but would sync any folders I select on my computer to a server of my choice, since I have my own hosting and would like to not have to "upload" files manually with FTP. Does such a thing exist for OSX/is there a smarter solution for this?

http://sparkleshare.org/

Essentially this is a front-end for git. Works pretty well on Snow Leopard and Linux, not so well for Windows, not at all for Lion (yet).

Dropbox is essentially a slick front end to SVN + rsync, so you could roll your own with a little effort.

Lum_ fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Jul 22, 2011

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

So I'm about to reinstall SL then upgrade to Lion, because of some issues, and I just want to make absolutely sure:

I've backed up my data using Time Machine since SL was installed, and my backup is current. Just in case, I'm backing up my Lightroom catalog to a separate drive, because losing my photos would suck. Work stuff is going to go on this drive as well, just in case.

I should be able to reinstall SL, upgrade clean to Lion, then restore from Time Machine, right? Anything I'm missing that I should do, even just to be cautious?

I'm also planning on installing the 8GB of RAM I just got in for it, figuring I'll do that before the SL reinstall.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Why not just clean install Lion? Saves some time.

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

Mu Zeta posted:

Why not just clean install Lion? Saves some time.

I figured doing the installation DVD stuff (that's what you mean, right?) from the OP might lead to some settings not getting erased or something. Would that be a full clean install?

Jack's Flow
Jun 6, 2003

Life, friends, is boring
Heureka! iWork works again. It was a BetterTouchTool bug that caused the keyboard to freak out.

All of my applications work again. Lion is awesome (now).

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Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Yeah if you make a bootable Lion disk on USB or a DVD you can do a full installation on an empty wiped drive. I guess it's not a big deal though since it's only saving you 30 minutes of time.

Though I don't really know how Time Machine backup works so someone else should chime in on that.

Mu Zeta fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Jul 22, 2011

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