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Disgustipated: Jul 28, 2003; Black metal ist krieg

Midnight- posted:

Is there anyway to get Finder to display files/folders the way Windows does? With the folders at the top and everything after that?

Total Finder will do it. Does other things too. Tabs and "Dual Mode" are the 2 I found most useful. Dunno if it's worth $18, but there was a 50% off sale recently. Maybe it'll go on sale again soon? Definitely worth $9.

# ? Aug 15, 2011 15:34

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# ? Apr 25, 2024 14:31

Xenomorph: Jun 13, 2001

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

10.x.0 releases haven't been very good in the past. Snow Leopard was pretty good, but Lion's definitely been the best so far. It's not without issues, but certainly their best effort yet. I sort of expect it by now though, considering how long they've been working on OS X.

Personally, I've never seen anything as bad as 10.7.0. Not just the circus involving the lack of physical media, but the fact I have to remote into 10.5 and 10.6 systems to do any work since things like the (10.7-specific) Server Admin Tools package is non-functional on 10.7. The File Sharing tool won't let me share files, the Workgroup Manager won't let me manage workgroups, etc. Maybe 10.7.1 or 10.7.2 will fix that.

Besides stuff that doesn't work, the default (and sometimes non-changable) options for applications is just annoying. "Reopen windows when logging back in" cannot be disabled correctly, documents no longer prompt to save when closing them, and all the windows I previously had open all come back open when I go to open just one document.

Not to mention that 10.7 Server seems to be missing 50% of the functionality of 10.5/10.6 Server. I doubt any point-update will restore all the missing functionality Apple removed.

# ? Aug 15, 2011 15:58

vikingstrike: Sep 23, 2007; whats happening, captain

Xenomorph posted:

and all the windows I previously had open all come back open when I go to open just one document.

This can be changed in Sys Prefs -> General -> Restore windows....

# ? Aug 15, 2011 17:24

Xenomorph: Jun 13, 2001

vikingstrike posted:

This can be changed in Sys Prefs -> General -> Restore windows....

Thank you! That's one down...

# ? Aug 15, 2011 17:45

Cold Sprunk: Apr 11, 2009

Another question about bootcamp....Can you install the drivers from the Mac OSX dvd from the internet or something? I can't seem to find the disk.

# ? Aug 15, 2011 18:44

Star War Sex Parrot: Oct 2, 2003

Cold Sprunk posted:

Another question about bootcamp....Can you install the drivers from the Mac OSX dvd from the internet or something? I can't seem to find the disk.

With Lion it should just prompt you to make a disc when you run Boot Camp Assistant.

# ? Aug 15, 2011 18:45

Mu Zeta: Oct 17, 2002; Me crush ass to dust

Yep I downloaded the Windows support software when it prompted me to. It's about 600 megs and you can just put it on a USB drive. You just have to run the setup.exe after loading Windows.

# ? Aug 15, 2011 18:54

Small White Dragon: Nov 23, 2007; No relation.

Am I the only one who's shocked that 10.7.1 isn't out yet?

# ? Aug 15, 2011 20:05

flyboi: Oct 13, 2005; agg stop posting; College Slice

Small White Dragon posted:

Am I the only one who's shocked that 10.7.1 isn't out yet?

Since they seeded 10.7.2 to developers, yes.

# ? Aug 15, 2011 20:42

radge: Jan 21, 2005

flyboi posted:

Since they seeded 10.7.2 to developers, yes.

The 10.7.2 update is purely for iCloud testing. I'd imagine 10.7.1 is going to be a separate pre-iCloud update.

# ? Aug 15, 2011 20:44

Star War Sex Parrot: Oct 2, 2003

Small White Dragon posted:

Am I the only one who's shocked that 10.7.1 isn't out yet?

I'm not that surprised. OS X is ten years old and this is the seventh major release. Lion didn't change that much under the hood, so the likelihood of shipping with showstopper bugs is probably pretty low by this point. Necessary application updates and UI quirks aside, Lion has been nothing but fast, stable, and reliable for me.

Also, Lion was digitally distributed and while it did take a couple weeks before the GM hit the App Store, the lead time on distribution is far shorter than with traditional disc copies. That means we ended up with a fresher build than what likely came on the disc for previous point releases.

# ? Aug 15, 2011 20:55

mayodreams: Jul 4, 2003; Hello darkness,
my old friend

Small White Dragon posted:

Am I the only one who's shocked that 10.7.1 isn't out yet?

I am not shocked, but I'm certainly surprised that we don't have one yet, or minimally one to squash some of the 2011 MBA issues that have cropped up. I just checked and it was 13 days from GM to 10.6.1, so we are certainly past that window. I think that Star War Sex Parrot is right about the digital distribution allowing closer ship times and its pretty stable now. However, the developer GM was was very early in July, so who really knows.

# ? Aug 15, 2011 21:02

Small White Dragon: Nov 23, 2007; No relation.

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

Lion has been nothing but fast, stable, and reliable for me.

A lot of us have not been quite so fortunate.

# ? Aug 15, 2011 21:18

crunk and white: Apr 21, 2008; by Ralp

All games were downloaded from Steam, today.

Where are Civ's icons and how do I fix it?

Only registered members can see post attachments!

# ? Aug 15, 2011 22:53

Star War Sex Parrot: Oct 2, 2003

They're quick-and-dirty ports so they most likely don't have native 512x512 icons.

# ? Aug 15, 2011 23:02

Petey: Nov 26, 2005; For who knows what is good for a person in life, during the few and meaningless days they pass through like a shadow? Who can tell them what will happen under the sun after they are gone?

Ok, so you know how when you select and drag a bunch of things in Finder it will (after a second or two of holding it) move and bunch them all up together? Does anyone know how to stop this from happening? It annoys the gently caress out of me and I'm misdropping thing everywhere.

# ? Aug 16, 2011 00:24

coldplay chiptunes: Sep 17, 2010; by Lowtax

Petey posted:

Ok, so you know how when you select and drag a bunch of things in Finder it will (after a second or two of holding it) move and bunch them all up together?

No? What view mode are you using?

Can't replicate this at all with column view.

# ? Aug 16, 2011 00:34

Petey: Nov 26, 2005; For who knows what is good for a person in life, during the few and meaningless days they pass through like a shadow? Who can tell them what will happen under the sun after they are gone?

coldplay chiptunes posted:

No? What view mode are you using?

Can't replicate this at all with column view.

You know, when it goes from this:

to this:

When you try to drag a bunch of selected items into another folder. Because it doesn't just fade out the bottom, it "jumps" the images higher up relative to your cursor, which just fucks everything up if you're trying to move it at that minute. It's not only happening to me - Siracusa talked about it in his review.

# ? Aug 16, 2011 01:08

coldplay chiptunes: Sep 17, 2010; by Lowtax

Hmm, yeah I experience the jumping back and forth, although I have no idea what causes it. I think it's just trying to keep the list contained within the finder window. Hence the fading out (and moving up).

However, it doesn't actually change the position of the cursor at all so it shouldn't really be affecting your movement abilities.

# ? Aug 16, 2011 01:20

Oneiros: Jan 12, 2007

I know what you're talking about, but I'm not sure what the problem you are having is. It doesn't do anything with the curser itself (not in my experience anyhow) so you shouldn't be misplacing things. Are you just being startled by it and releasing the button?

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# ? Aug 16, 2011 01:20

Petey: Nov 26, 2005; For who knows what is good for a person in life, during the few and meaningless days they pass through like a shadow? Who can tell them what will happen under the sun after they are gone?

Oneiros posted:

I know what you're talking about, but I'm not sure what the problem you are having is. It doesn't do anything with the curser itself (not in my experience anyhow) so you shouldn't be misplacing things. Are you just being startled by it and releasing the button?

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You're right, it doesn't move the cursor - but yes, I'm basically being startled by it, since it suddenly moves and is no longer attached to the cursor. I know it's a little thing, but I (as did Siracusa) actually find it to be deeply disruptive when I'm moving things about in the Finder.

# ? Aug 16, 2011 01:30

Dick Trauma: Nov 30, 2007; God damn it, you've got to be kind.

In anticipation of my Lion upgrade I put two 2 gig RAM chips in my 2.16 Core 2 Duo MBP and it recognized all four gigs. I was sure this model couldn't recognize more than 3.

# ? Aug 16, 2011 02:11

Star War Sex Parrot: Oct 2, 2003

Dick Trauma posted:

In anticipation of my Lion upgrade I put two 2 gig RAM chips in my 2.16 Core 2 Duo MBP and it recognized all four gigs. I was sure this model couldn't recognize more than 3.

I'm pretty sure OS X does the same thing that Windows started doing with Vista: telling you the amount of RAM that's there, even if it can't address all of it. A 2.16GHz MBP can tell you that 4GB of RAM is installed, but I'm pretty sure it can't address more than 3GB. Though I have no idea how to verify that in the OS.

# ? Aug 16, 2011 02:16

SimpleCoax: Aug 7, 2003; TV is the thing this year.; Hair Elf

Optimist with doubt posted:

Anyone have issues with FaceTime logging in? Everytime I try it says there is a server error.

Can't say I have, but one problem I have with FaceTime is that it turns down my internal microphone so that the other person can't hear me. I watch the meter in sys prefs go from all the way up to only making it 10% across when FaceTime is opened.

# ? Aug 16, 2011 03:14

neolithic: Jan 10, 2005; He's a complicated man,
but no one understands
him but his woman.

Cold Sprunk posted:

Anyone used bootcamp for Windows 7? How do you like it? I may try it on my 2011 Macbook Pro for gaming purposes...

I installed this on my MBP and didn't even boot into it. Opened the partition using Parallels which I found to be loving fantastic. The mouse took a bit of tweaking, but I was playing Counter-strike (just for laughs) with no problems.

I'm new to Mac's and the fact I could do this and flick between different OSX poo poo, like it wasn't even a big deal, was a big deal to me. I seem to recall VMs being terrible a few years ago.

neolithic fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Aug 16, 2011

# ? Aug 16, 2011 03:27

Star War Sex Parrot: Oct 2, 2003

I get that Apple really wants me to buy an iPad, but I wish they had iBooks for OS X. I refuse to read on my iPhone 4. I suppose I could just buy books from Amazon's Kindle service.

# ? Aug 16, 2011 04:11

cbirdsong: Sep 8, 2004; Commodore of the Apocalypso; Lipstick Apathy

New Kindle Cloud Reader works pretty well in fullscreen Safari, and then you aren't locked into Apple stuff since it's the only thing that can read iBooks.

# ? Aug 16, 2011 04:13

Star War Sex Parrot: Oct 2, 2003

CDOR Gemini posted:

New Kindle Cloud Reader works pretty well in fullscreen Safari

Hey I forgot about that! Thanks!

# ? Aug 16, 2011 04:15

~Coxy: Dec 9, 2003; R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

They're quick-and-dirty ports so they most likely don't have native 512x512 icons.

Civ IV is a native port done by Aspyr. That said, it's possible the steam service just doesn't bother with that kind of thing.

You could probably fix the icon by downloading one of the updates and copy/pasting the icon from the installer.

# ? Aug 16, 2011 05:03

Granite Octopus: Jun 24, 2008

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

I refuse to read on my iPhone 4.

It's really not that bad. I've used my iPhone4 as my only ebook reader for at least a year. I've probably read about 30 books on it. All novels though; no way would I try reading a reference/technical book on it.

The only downside I have with it is that you have to turn pages more often. Other than that, its better than a physical book in every way (for my needs), and better than a dedicated reader because it's one less thing to buy and carry and charge.

# ? Aug 16, 2011 08:11

japtor: Oct 28, 2005

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

I'm pretty sure OS X does the same thing that Windows started doing with Vista: telling you the amount of RAM that's there, even if it can't address all of it. A 2.16GHz MBP can tell you that 4GB of RAM is installed, but I'm pretty sure it can't address more than 3GB. Though I have no idea how to verify that in the OS.

Yeah for the machines that can work with 4GB but not actually use it, they still report the full 4GB installed. I think the actual usable amount is 3.3GB...not really sure how someone (OWC?) figured that out but that's the number I remember over the years.

# ? Aug 16, 2011 08:49

Small White Dragon: Nov 23, 2007; No relation.

Apparently some of the problems we've been seeing in Lion are widespread, e.g.:
http://www.tuaw.com/2011/07/24/lion-bug-some-imacs-locking-up-after-playing-video/

Interestingly, the issues appear to differ on hardware class.

# ? Aug 16, 2011 12:50

micropenis: Jul 19, 2004; An '04 Mac user from the UK. What's worse?

In the Terminal, how do I ssh into a server without typing the password every time? I always have to open up 1password and copy and paste the long password whenever I want to login quickly.

# ? Aug 16, 2011 15:11

vikingstrike: Sep 23, 2007; whats happening, captain

micropenis posted:

In the Terminal, how do I ssh into a server without typing the password every time? I always have to open up 1password and copy and paste the long password whenever I want to login quickly.

You can use SSH keys. Here's one way to do it: http://pkeck.myweb.uga.edu/ssh/

# ? Aug 16, 2011 15:13

FCKGW: May 21, 2006

japtor posted:

Yeah for the machines that can work with 4GB but not actually use it, they still report the full 4GB installed. I think the actual usable amount is 3.3GB...not really sure how someone (OWC?) figured that out but that's the number I remember over the years.

"About this Mac" will show the amount installed while Activity Monitor will show the amount accessible.

# ? Aug 16, 2011 16:08

Sigma: Aug 24, 2003; ...; Grimey Drawer

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

I'm pretty sure OS X does the same thing that Windows started doing with Vista: telling you the amount of RAM that's there, even if it can't address all of it. A 2.16GHz MBP can tell you that 4GB of RAM is installed, but I'm pretty sure it can't address more than 3GB. Though I have no idea how to verify that in the OS.

Something in me says run memtest

http://www.memtest.org/#downiso

# ? Aug 16, 2011 16:13