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Who Killed WCW?
Eric Bischoff
Hulk Hogan
Vince Russo
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ChampRamp
Mar 29, 2010

:siren: SAVE_US.CHR :siren:

Rarity posted:

Someone's forgetting about New Blood Rising

or Bash at the Beach 99

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triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
I was watching a random Nitro episode from November 1997 this morning. Rey vs Eddie, Saturn vs Benoit, DDP vs Mr Perfect. Hell, even Jericho vs Disco was a fun little match. I forgot how fun old Nitro could be when they just had good workers out there doing their thing.

Even announcers hyping up World War 3 during all the matches didn't bug me, because at least it wasn't Michael Cole burying everyone.

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

If I had to pick an announcer I hate more than Cole, Zbysko and Madden would be right up there. I mean, at least you know Cole is playing a character - what's your excuse Madden?

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

flashy_mcflash posted:

If I had to pick an announcer I hate more than Cole, Zbysko and Madden would be right up there. I mean, at least you know Cole is playing a character - what's your excuse Madden?

Madden was deplorable. He thought he was playing a character, I do know that.

The worst for me was that dredlocked gently caress Ed Ferrara when he was Tenay's colour guy in the early days of TNA. I can find more out of Steve McMichael to appreciate than him.

I can't hate the Living Legend, though. He makes drinking games during Nitro easy. "Take a shot when Order is pronounced Odour. Waterfall when Chess is mentioned."

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

flashy_mcflash posted:

If I had to pick an announcer I hate more than Cole, Zbysko and Madden would be right up there. I mean, at least you know Cole is playing a character - what's your excuse Madden?

Madden actually talked a bit about his time in WCW recently, I don't know if you read it. He basically said that when things called for it he would do his best, like trying to put over Goldberg as a killer. But when he's announcing a viagra on a pole match, what do you want him to do?

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

triplexpac posted:

Madden actually talked a bit about his time in WCW recently, I don't know if you read it. He basically said that when things called for it he would do his best, like trying to put over Goldberg as a killer. But when he's announcing a viagra on a pole match, what do you want him to do?

Yeah, sorry Madden. He was a retard in every single Cruiserweight match. He did a deplorable job as a commentator. He tried to be Paul E. Dangerously and failed every night.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

Lone Rogue posted:

Yeah, sorry Madden. He was a retard in every single Cruiserweight match. He did a deplorable job as a commentator. He tried to be Paul E. Dangerously and failed every night.

What did he do in cruiser matches? I can't remember.

Although I will never forget FACE FULL OF STUFF!! FACE FULL OF STUFF!!

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Lone Rogue posted:

Yeah, sorry Madden. He was a retard in every single Cruiserweight match. He did a deplorable job as a commentator. He tried to be Paul E. Dangerously and failed every night.

Well people do not want to see Mexicans or Japanese they want to see Americans and that is why Mexican or Japaneses wrestlers will never get over. :russo:

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

triplexpac posted:

What did he do in cruiser matches? I can't remember.

He did very little, usually nothing to put the performances over or provide anything of value.

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

triplexpac posted:

What did he do in cruiser matches? I can't remember.

Although I will never forget FACE FULL OF STUFF!! FACE FULL OF STUFF!!

Basically what Cole does, kayfabe, with women's matches. Calls the bare minimum of the match while subtly burying it. You can certainly not fault him for not being able to make a silk purse out of the sow's ear that was WCW at the time, but he was also very terrible at what he did do.


Really glad I missed the Ed Ferrera era of TNA, though. Holy poo poo I despised that guy.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
Stevie Ray was the original misogynist announcer, Cole just stole his gimmick

Mons Hubris
Aug 29, 2004

fanci flup :)


Magic_Ceiling_Fan posted:

It's Hogan's loving "Apple Pie" strap match, that for some reason took place after the title match, that gets me.

For some reason, in my head I can never remember Hogan as saying "yap-a-pie." It always sounds like "ya-pappy."

The yapappy strap much just sounds more appealing.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
I think I have all the '92 PPVs lying around the house somewhere.

Maybe I should play WCW Russian Roulette - Either i'll draw Sting/Jake or Pillman/Liger or just something incredibly bland.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

LordPants posted:

I think I have all the '92 PPVs lying around the house somewhere.

Maybe I should play WCW Russian Roulette - Either i'll draw Sting/Jake or Pillman/Liger or just something incredibly bland.

SPIN THE WHEEL
MAKE THE DEAL

RealFoxy
May 11, 2011

I'm not making a fucking QCS thread for this but seriously can we take a harder stance on Kiwifarms freaks like this guy, Jesus Christ seriously, you used to be better at knocking these creeps down. I guess ADTRW mods aren't responsible like GBS mods are.

LordPants posted:

I think I have all the '92 PPVs lying around the house somewhere.

Maybe I should play WCW Russian Roulette - Either i'll draw Sting/Jake or Pillman/Liger or just something incredibly bland.
I think I just figured out why none of WCW or TNA makes sense, and it might have something to do with a table game called "Russo Roulette"

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
Louie Spiccoli was the best guest commentator in WCW even if he only did it the once. How can you not like a man who tells Tony Schiavone that he can't say "bomb" in Oklahoma.

some bust on that guy
Jan 21, 2006

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.

LordPants posted:

Halloween Havok 98 - Jericho v. Raven. Man those themes are horrible, it's like they just reversed the intervals for Even Flow and Come As You Are. Infact, I'm sure that's just what they did. Doesn't make it any less horrible.

Wow, what is wrong with your ears? Jericho and Raven certainly had two of the best themes in not only WCW but in anywhere in wrestling no matter if they were ripoffs or not. The same goes for DDP's theme.

The best part of Raven's theme wasn't even in the original song, (:42 to 1:00) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVUzz3M_D8s, so I would actually say the remix improved it.

El Duke Silver
Aug 15, 2008

rarely goes out and should never be approached

Super Ninja Fish posted:

Wow, what is wrong with your ears? Jericho and Raven certainly had two of the best themes in not only WCW but in anywhere in wrestling no matter if they were ripoffs or not. The same goes for DDP's theme.

The best part of Raven's theme wasn't even in the original song, (:42 to 1:00) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVUzz3M_D8s, so I would actually say the remix improved it.

hahaha you think the soundalike is a better song than Come As You Are and you just asked someone what was wrong with their ears WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU?

some bust on that guy
Jan 21, 2006

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.

El Duke posted:

hahaha you think the soundalike is a better song than Come As You Are and you just asked someone what was wrong with their ears WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU?

It's not like we're talking about some great band. We're just talking about Nirvana. Come as You Are is very boring as is every Nirvana song.

The badass guitar solo in the second half of Raven's theme that has nothing to do with Nirvana is what makes the song awesome.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

The Wise Teen posted:

For some reason, in my head I can never remember Hogan as saying "yap-a-pie." It always sounds like "ya-pappy."

The yapappy strap much just sounds more appealing.
And has unfortunate connotations.

Isn't that the strap match he won via pinfall?

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Super Ninja Fish posted:

It's not like we're talking about some great band. We're just talking about Nirvana. Come as You Are is very boring as is every Nirvana song.

Oh, God -- if you said this in NMD, you'd be lynched.

Perdido
Apr 29, 2009

CORY SCHNEIDER IS FAR MORE MENTALLY STABLE THAN LUONGO AND CAN HANDLE THE PRESSURES OF GOALTENDING IN VANCOUVER
Come As You Are is a really boring song, but my opinion of it may be skewed due to hearing it and Teen Spirit as the only Nirvana tracks that ever get played on the radio.

I
Aug 4, 2006

by Y Kant Ozma Post

LividLiquid posted:

Pretty sure that was Sting.
This was the match where Vampiro returned to the ring after beating Demon and was attacked by an army of sting clones.

El Duke Silver
Aug 15, 2008

rarely goes out and should never be approached

Super Ninja Fish posted:

It's not like we're talking about some great band. We're just talking about Nirvana. Come as You Are is very boring as is every Nirvana song.

The badass guitar solo in the second half of Raven's theme that has nothing to do with Nirvana is what makes the song awesome.

hahaha Jesus Christ this has to be a troll.

Edit: I mean seriously if you think the most important band of the early to mid 90s is "just some band" what the hell is the matter with you? Same thing as if you like lovely soundalike muzak ripoffs, I guess.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real
The thing that was awesome about Jericho/DDP/Raven's themes were that they were knockoffs, but still sounded awesome on their own.

Unlike Shane Douglas who;s WCW theme sounded like someone hosed up the intro of Perfect Strangers.

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

Nirvana? Meh
Jimmy Hart? ROCK GOD

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
Finished an episode of Nitro this morning. The episode had Hogan & Bischoff calling out Sting the entire time, Sting never showing up. Finally at the end Hogan & Bischoff are begging for Sting to face Hogan. Sting finally rappels down from the ceiling to the ramp and slides in the ring. He proceeds to get his rear end kicked by the nWo, and then We'reOutofTimeSeeYouNextWeekonNitrooooo

Wonderful plan there, Sting.

RBX
Jan 2, 2011

Im sure they ran out of time for real and planned on him getting up beating their rear end and Hogan running away down the ramp before time was up.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

RBX posted:

Im sure they ran out of time for real and planned on him getting up beating their rear end and Hogan running away down the ramp before time was up.

If that's the case, then I'd certainly bet that Hogan conveniently "lost track of time" and things ran late.

Rousimar Pauladeen
Feb 27, 2007

I hate the mods I hate the mods I hate the mods! I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS! Hey wait a minute why do the mods hate me I'm contributing to the conversation I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS I HA
One of my favorite Nitro memories was when Sting thought they were off the air and said "If you're not down with that I got two words for ya..."

Akileese
Feb 6, 2005

Rarity posted:

Someone's forgetting about New Blood Rising

Tank Abbot stealing the contract and the gold record and then dancing up the ramp. Holy poo poo that was both hilarious and awful.

oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

Akileese posted:

Tank Abbot stealing the contract and the gold record and then dancing up the ramp. Holy poo poo that was both hilarious and awful.

Everything I remember about Tank Abbot's wrestling career is hilarious and awful. There isn't a single notable event that springs to mind that wasn't the perfect way to describe anything from that era of WCW

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb7NwD8X9Sg

Was that supposed to be Andre's bloated zombie corpse at 00:38?

Flight Bisque
Feb 23, 2008

There is, surprisingly, always hope.
I miss Scott Hall using the chokeslam and then doing the Frankenstein walk gimmick mocking the Giant.

My favorite one was like a year after Big Show left the company, Hall chokeslammed someone, then started to do the walk and went oh yeah and waved it off.


I guess really I just miss Scott Hall.

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

Hall would've been an outstanding rear end in a top hat babyface.

SansWetware
Oct 16, 2008
During that Goldberg powerbomb walkout when the nut shot medley occurs Schiavone says "There's only so much a man can take, no matter how big and sexy he is."

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?

Oatgan posted:

Everything I remember about Tank Abbot's wrestling career is hilarious and awful. There isn't a single notable event that springs to mind that wasn't the perfect way to describe anything from that era of WCW

Apparently Abbott had the time of his life when he was playing a groupie for Three Count. Can't really knock the guy for going along with something so stupid and having fun with it.

And, in true WCW fashion, they kept releasing talented wrestlers while offering to pay for Tank to take singing lessons.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
I love Observer back issues.

quote:

A deal, not yet completed, has been on the table where WCW wrestling will become a permanent side-show, like the trained seals and dolphins, at DisneyWorld in Orlando, running two or three one-hour wrestling shows throughout the day on a daily basis whenever the park is open. If that deal goes through, it is expected that all television will be taped out of Orlando, and that the company's base of operations will be moved from Atlanta to Orlando.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?
That was such a great Bishoff idea. Completely ignoring the fact that spoilers will get out and wrestlers will get injured.

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Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real

bobkatt013 posted:

That was such a great Bishoff idea. Completely ignoring the fact that spoilers will get out and wrestlers will get injured.

One of the first things Bischoff did when he took over WCW in 1993 was did massive amounts of taping in a row at MGM Studios to save money. This was during the incident where Sid stabbed Arn Anderson with a pair of scissors and was fired.... but all this happened after the TV tapings where Sid had already won the World Title, and I think they just had to scrap the matches. There was also the snafu where Austin and Pillman were supposed to drop the tag titles to the horsemen at a live Clash of the Champions to reflect the TV tapings. When Pillman was injured, Regal had to defend the titles with Austin in order for the title change to happen.

Of course back in 1993 internet spoilers were not as readily available as they are now.

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