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Maker Of Shoes posted:Did a Neon kick your dog or something? Just curious. No I just daily drive one of the fuckers and therefore know what I'm talking about. The Neon makes me want to kick dogs.
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Aug 21, 2011 04:27
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Geirskogul posted:The Chrysler Neon is simply the worst car in the entire world, nothing more. I mean, Hitler didn't hurt me personally, but I still loathe the guy, so I can see why he rages on the Neon. It's still better than the PT Cruiser, but I think we get the idea.
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Aug 21, 2011 04:30
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Mr.Peabody posted:It's still better than the PT Cruiser, but I think we get the idea. Only because of the body differences. And one could argue that point in favor of the PT 
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Aug 21, 2011 04:34
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I felt extremely sorry for the undercover police officer I saw driving a bronze 1995 Taurus sedan.
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Aug 21, 2011 04:35
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Professor Bling posted:No I just daily drive one of the fuckers and therefore know what I'm talking about. So do I and the 2 that I've owned have been utterly fantastic vehicles. But I see where you're coming from. I returned a WRX in 2002 thanks to lemon laws and now that you've mentioned it I go into a seething rage every time I see one. Imprezas are literally the Japanese equivalent to the worst car ever.
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Aug 21, 2011 04:55
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Maker Of Shoes posted:So do I and the 2 that I've owned have been utterly fantastic vehicles. But I see where you're coming from. I returned a WRX in 2002 thanks to lemon laws and now that you've mentioned it I go into a seething rage every time I see one. Imprezas are literally the Japanese equivalent to the worst car ever. Strangely enough, I know a lot of people with the WRX. Every one of them has crashed them within 90 days of acquiring it, as by some magic. A coworker of mine just got a used one, and it took him an entire four days to crash it into a ditch.
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Aug 21, 2011 05:02
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Breast Pussy posted:Its cool that you guys hate a small, light car with the wheels at the corners which has proven to be a very effective track car in ACR and homebuilt-modified trim. Wikipedia posted:Safety Unless you modify them with a full-body rollcage, they'll apparently also kill you if you're simply in the vicinity. VVVVVVVV You're a goddamned moron for thinking like that, I'm sorry. You're essentially saying that you don't care if the car itself is horrible because the car doesn't make it a bad car. Queen_Combat fucked around with this message at 08:11 on Aug 21, 2011 |
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Aug 21, 2011 05:20
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Geirskogul posted:Unless you modify them with a full-body rollcage, they'll apparently also kill you if you're simply in the vicinity. It might just be me but I don't give a poo poo about crash ratings and think they alone don't make a car a bad car.
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Aug 21, 2011 05:29
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Breast Pussy posted:It might just be me but I don't give a poo poo about crash ratings and think they alone don't make a car a bad car.  Dude, that metal box is the most important feature of any car.
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Aug 21, 2011 07:44
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EightBit posted:
For the record, back when the neon was released in the early 90s, all small cars would kill you in a crash.
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Aug 21, 2011 08:39
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nm posted:For the record, back when the neon was released in the early 90s, all small cars would kill you in a crash. The Neon would kill you worse. That's the point.
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Aug 21, 2011 08:43
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Wow I just looked up the neon crash test. This is 40mph: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N13KOM1OpFY This is my e36 from a similar year range (early 90s): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8CjyFj1tWo Airbags would have helped but the passenger compartment stays intact.
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Aug 21, 2011 15:13
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revmoo posted:Wow I just looked up the neon crash test. This is 40mph: Yes that would be what your $30000 were paying for. Fact of the matter is people who bought the G1 Neon got them because they were better looking, more powerful, and cheaper than the Japanese and domestic compacts of the time. People who bought a G2 Neon were dumb though.
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Aug 21, 2011 15:24
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revmoo posted:Wow I just looked up the neon crash test. This is 40mph: Compare those, to, say, another 1990s contemporary, the Lamborghini Diablo: http://www.youcarpress.com/2011/03/lamborghini-diablo-crash-test/
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Aug 21, 2011 15:25
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Yeah, but here's a civic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y4yIjT83kA Neon doesn't look too bad suddenly
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Jonny Nox posted:Yeah, but here's a civic I got smacked by an 18 wheeler in one of those Civics 5 years ago (2 door though). Walked away with some bruises, a few cuts from broken glass, and some nasty whiplash. I was really impressed with how well it held up to be honest, the drivers side door (where I was hit) even opened and closed fine.
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Aug 21, 2011 16:54
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Breast Pussy posted:Its cool that you guys hate a small, light car with the wheels at the corners which has proven to be a very effective track car in ACR and homebuilt-modified trim. Cool, so the top of the line model available for less than half the model's life, and homebuilt versions that were only recognizable by the sheet metal weren't complete poo poo. Sounds like a winner of a car. 98% of all Neons are utter trash.
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some texas redneck posted:I got smacked by an 18 wheeler in one of those Civics 5 years ago (2 door though). Yeah my point was more about comparing an early 90s compact to another early 90s compact not a German luxury car or an Italian Supercar. And if you got the Neon in 2 door with a 5 speed and DOHC engine (1st gen obviously) you got a pretty racy shitbox.
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Aug 21, 2011 19:49
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The ACR was just a stripped version of the car with competition suspension. I'd hardly call that 'top of the line.'
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atomicthumbs posted:I felt extremely sorry for the undercover police officer I saw driving a bronze 1995 Taurus sedan. Stop or I'll grenade my transmission!
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Blackdawgg posted:Stop or I'll grenade my transmission! One grenaded SHO tranny coming right up! http://www.streetfire.net/video/turbosho-destroyed-transmission_192268.htm
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After watching those crash videos, I want to go out and hug my E34 and make it promise not to try to put the front wheel in the driver's seat if we ever hit something.
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Aug 21, 2011 21:26
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Blackdawgg posted:Stop or I'll grenade my transmission! Don't make me stop this car! please
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Jonny Nox posted:Yeah my point was more about comparing an early 90s compact to another early 90s compact not a German luxury car or an Italian Supercar. A/ A 3-series is not a luxury car B/ The Neon came out in 1995 when the Japanese were beginning to lift their game. Check out an EK Civic (also a 1995 model) compared to the Neon (or that earlier Civic) Neon: Civic: http://youtu.be/9Fsptl3_Oes?t=2m42s Corolla: http://youtu.be/9Fsptl3_Oes?t=3m45s Saturn: http://youtu.be/9Fsptl3_Oes?t=4m22s Escort: http://youtu.be/9Fsptl3_Oes?t=5m45s Jetta: http://youtu.be/9Fsptl3_Oes?t=7m1s (much older design than the others) Mirage: http://youtu.be/CSBLlh7m-eI Neon: http://youtu.be/CSBLlh7m-eI?t=54s Kia: http://youtu.be/CSBLlh7m-eI?t=2m11s
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revmoo posted:Wow I just looked up the neon crash test. This is 40mph: Two different tests. The Neon is undergoing a frontal offset collision where only half of the front hits the barrier. The E36 is doing a full-width frontal impact. The offset collision puts a LOT more stress on the body of the car. The full-width frontal impact, on the other hand, causes more G and is used more to test the restraint systems.  I think I got that right...
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Aug 21, 2011 23:57
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For the love of God, can we please shut up about Dodge Neons and post pictures?
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Goober Peas posted:For the love of God, can we please shut up about Dodge Neons and post pictures? That slasher smile is going to stay with me for days, thanks.
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Aug 22, 2011 00:56
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My question is where is the other pin and spider?
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More, you say?   From a last Gen Landcruiser, I believe. Don't remember where I found these...they've been hanging out in a picture folder.
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grover posted:Chinese levels of oh-my-godness. "This car has a passenger airbag switch but it DOES NOT have an airbag."
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Previa_fun posted:Two different tests. The Neon is undergoing a frontal offset collision where only half of the front hits the barrier. The E36 is doing a full-width frontal impact. The offset collision puts a LOT more stress on the body of the car. The full-width frontal impact, on the other hand, causes more G and is used more to test the restraint systems. Good catch. Here's an E34 doing an offset crash, still beats the poo poo out of that Neon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSOODbpCNwA And several E36s getting chucked out of a warehouse http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQnK7S2NTI8&NR=1 I could listen to Germans talk about cars forever  : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYdp_MzHo_g
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AlternateAccount posted:And several E36s getting chucked out of a warehouse
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Goober Peas posted:More, you say? Thats not the first time i've seen that kind of failure on a 100 series cruiser front diff.... This was what was left of my mates when he exploded it.  Blew ut up offroad, had to drive it out to a main road for a tow, so just removed the front driveshaft and drove it until the front diff stopped making crunchy noises!
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My parents' first Dodge Neon '97 was a mechanical failure, if that counts. At about 100,000 miles they decided they weren't going to fix it anymore because the head gasket was blown and it wasn't worth the repair. So we kept driving it, waiting for it to die. I used it for pizza delivery, where it boiled all of the coolant/oil sludge off several times, was my dad's daily driver for about a year after I moved away, and was then given to my brother who drove it from Atlanta to Florida at an average speed of 90mph or so. I think after another year the radiator cracked and he gave it to a friend of his, who fixed it and continued using it as a daily driver. Oh, I also autocrossed it several times with the blown head gasket, managing to best significantly more capable cars (while on worn, $40 tires). Did I say mechanical failure? I think I meant to say mechanical hero.
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http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showthread.php?s=7f22a1118cc1d207317a55ed5013201d&t=390033 Guy drives the car (99 4cyl 5SFE camry) with the starter engaged constantly and burns it the gently caress up.  
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Aug 22, 2011 20:53
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When I was in high school I drove an '86 Volvo wagon. One day it started making this awful noise when I would accelerate hard. Like this really terribly loud grating noise. Turns out I had some busted motor mounts and when I would give it some gas, the engine would torque, which would short something and cause the starter to engage. I'd never tried to start my car while it was already running, so I had no idea what the noise was. I can't imagine hearing that for miles.
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Mr.Peabody posted:It's still better than the PT Cruiser, but I think we get the idea. This is the loving truth, take all of a neon's bad points, add a heavier body with bad viability, and somehow an interior that seemed to fall apart even faster and you have a true winner. I daily drove a 97 neon from brand new till the head gasket gave up at 125k, it isn't even close to the worst car in the world, I'd take it in a heartbeat over the 98 Taurus, 84 Buick Skyhawk hatch, or 78 Pinto wagon I used to drive.
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Gunjin posted:This is the loving truth, take all of a neon's bad points, add a heavier body with bad viability, and somehow an interior that seemed to fall apart even faster and you have a true winner. Yeah but you can't rent a PT, stealth nitrous/methanol it, beat the gently caress out of it on the drag(13.8 @ 102 anyone?), then turn it in with nobody the wiser... OR CAN YOU?!?! (Someone do it with a PT!) QFT: quote:The high (low?) point came when "Crazy" Eddie Yeznaian, intrepid rally racer and wildebeest extraordinaire, actually power-braked the car to the floor, cut the wheel to the left, and hit the nitrous in reverse. Nothin' like nitrous doughnuts after a hard day at the office! (Since this was done in the rain, does that make it Dunkin' Donuts?) If you can imagine what it must be like to be trapped in a spinning top at 200 RPM, you get the idea. Where are the air-sickness bags for this ride? H-E-L-L-L-P! http://www.aces.edu/~parmega/articles/neon/
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