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kcroy posted:I know its done quite often in books , but the whole "oh you just missed eachother!" thing gets on my nerves. I want to be like JUST loving YELL AT HER YOU STUPID gently caress. I'm sure there are reasons he can't or w/e.. I just want to yell at the GRRM I guess. We don't really know who Lenore is at this point, though there are some theories floating around. Arthur Dayne was one of Aerys's Kingsguard, and was generally regarded as one of the finest examples of knighthood, being brave, honourable and all that. He won great regard for defeating the Smiling Knight in single combat. He was guarding Lyanna Stark in the Tower of Joy along with Gerold Hightower and Oswell Whent, and was killed in the ensuing fight with Ned Stark, Howland Reed and their allies.
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Arthur Dayne is the greatest swordsman to ever live la la la and only died because Howland shot him with a poisoned dart, otherwise Ned would have lost his head much earlier.
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Aug 25, 2011 04:41
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Mr.Brinks posted:Arthur Dayne is the greatest swordsman to ever live la la la *Darkstar clips you round the ear for 20 points of emodamage*
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Aug 25, 2011 04:54
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I can't wait for WoW when each faction sends someone to enlist Darkstar to their cause. Gonna be another knot....
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Aug 25, 2011 04:58
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kcroy posted:
Lots of people who like the character want him to be a Targ so he can ride a wee dragon like he dreamed of as a child. Unfortunately for them he's not. John, Aegon and Dany are. Tyrion's entire character arc is predicated on Tywin being pops. His character sucks if "oh my gosh all these years Tywin wasn't my real dad and my life really is sunshine and puppies and dragon riding! Now let's go burn all the people who were mean to me and get my wife back!" It doesn't matter anyway as the rest of the books follow the crime fighting adventures of Ser Pounce and Shaggydog.and are AWESOME
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Aug 25, 2011 05:16
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Also, to take the rule to its most extreme conclusion, since they never died in view of the reader, I'm on the fence if Pretty Pig and Crunch are really dead. I could go either way on them getting a happy ending.
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Aug 25, 2011 05:33
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Thoguh posted:Sansa doesn't warg, and we also never had a Robb POV to know if he warged into Grey Wind. Obviously Sansa doesn't Warg. Lady was killed well before any of the children really began warging at all. I think it's pretty clear that they all warg with varying levels of talent. Bran - Realizes what's happening and can control warging Jon - Realizes what happens, has unclear control, focused on humanly matters Arya - Doesn't understand what's happening, exhibits very limited control Rickon - Too young to understand or control Shaggydog, but heavily influences based on emotional states* Robb - Unclear as to warging abilities/control, but assumedly has at least a major influence over Grey Wind via emotional state** Sansa - Ned killed her wolf. Theoretically could still warg into other animals but the only animal she ever wanted to have inside her was The Hound. * Based on the way Shaggydog acts towards others, especially when Rickon is afraid or angry. To be clear, Shaggydog is described as incredibly hard to control,, I imagine that's because he's being controlled or at least influenced heavily by the emotional state of a toddler. ** Based on similar evidence as Shaggydog. Also fights bravely to protect Robb. Originally I theorized that at the red wedding he may have accidentally warged into Grey Wind and would eventually be saved by Bran realizing what happens, and then teaching Robb to warg into Hodor. Theory was crushed when it was revealed that the Freys cut of Grey Wind's head and sewed it onto Robb's body. So in reality I was sort of right.
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JerkyBunion posted:into Grey Wind and would eventually be saved by Bran realizing what happens, and then teaching Robb to warg into Hodor. Theory was crushed when it was revealed that the Freys cut of Grey Wind's head and sewed it onto Robb's body. So in reality I was sort of right. Would love to see a Robb POV as he jumps into greywind, and then immediately gets killed. I'll bet GRRM could write that really well, imagine how frustrating that betrayal -> wonder -> loss-> death moment would be. I'd also like to read a Being John Malkovich chapter of someone stuck behind the eyes of the warger. edit: Juaguocio posted:We don't really know who Lenore is at this point, though there are some theories floating around. Wasn't there some vibe that his sister was in love with Ned, so maybe didn't really throw herself off the tower or w/e? Is that where this theory that there is a son of Brandon Stark running around, and that Lenore is whatever that dame's name was. Daynes sister? kcroy fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Aug 25, 2011 |
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Aug 25, 2011 06:40
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Mr.Brinks posted:Arthur Dayne is the greatest swordsman to ever live la la la and only "died" because Howland stole his body through warging fixed
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Aug 25, 2011 08:07
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You know, I was glancing through the Dayne stuff and I didn't realise how hard they were emphasised as having Targaryan-like features. I'm now vaguely liking the admittedly out-there theory that Lenore is Ashara Dayne and Aegon is actually her supposedly stillborn child, being raised to believe he's a Targaryan. Lenore is following around her son in secret as his 'Septa'. Griff doesn't know it's a lie. That's why the Daynes are mentioned as looking Targ-like so much.
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Aug 25, 2011 08:42
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The Ashara is Lenore theory is nice and could be correct but one would think Tyrion, smartest man in the land, would notice she had purple eyes or something else to identify her. He outed Aegon and J-Con pretty quickly.
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Aug 25, 2011 09:14
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bigmcgaffney posted:The Ashara is Lenore theory is nice and could be correct but one would think Tyrion, smartest man in the land, would notice she had purple eyes or something else to identify her. He outed Aegon and J-Con pretty quickly. Do Targs have silver bush too? Enquiring minds want to know!
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Aug 25, 2011 10:10
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kcroy posted:Do Targs have silver bush too? Khal Drogo and Daario could tell you, but one of them's dead and the other probably will be soon.
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Aug 25, 2011 12:33
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kcroy posted:Do Targs have silver bush too? Maybe she'll have to shave her bush to appease some slaveowners or something.
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Aug 25, 2011 12:54
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Is this book really as bad as the Amazon reviews are making it out to be? Pretty much all of them completely trash it, saying it just spins its wheels and goes entirely loving nowhere the entire time.
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Aug 25, 2011 14:06
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dirkadirk2011 posted:Is this book really as bad as the Amazon reviews are making it out to be? Pretty much all of them completely trash it, saying it just spins its wheels and goes entirely loving nowhere the entire time. Why don't you read it and come to your own conclusion?
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Aug 25, 2011 14:38
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Mad Hamish posted:So, um, do we have any idea of what's happening with Rickon? I don't particularly care, but it's been like three books and there's been no mention at all. Manderly sent Davos to find Rickon in order to have a stark heir to prove Bolton's Arya is fake. A mute ironman hid in a tree and followed Rickon and that wildling chick. Apparently he is at some really bad place. Something to do with cannibalism if i recall correctly?
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Aug 25, 2011 14:59
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niethan posted:Manderly sent Davos to find Rickon in order to have a stark heir to prove Bolton's Arya is fake. A mute ironman hid in a tree and followed Rickon and that wildling chick. Apparently he is at some really bad place. Something to do with cannibalism if i recall correctly? Skagos
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Aug 25, 2011 15:00
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niethan posted:Manderly sent Davos to find Rickon in order to have a stark heir to prove Bolton's Arya is fake. A mute ironman hid in a tree and followed Rickon and that wildling chick. Apparently he is at some really bad place. Something to do with cannibalism if i recall correctly?
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Aug 25, 2011 15:41
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Charlie Mopps posted:So Rickon is with Manderley's party? No, he probably hasn't been found yet. Presumably we'll pick up Davos going to find him in Winds of Winter. And it's not to prove Arya's a fake so much as to have a (thanks to Shaggywolf, undisputable) Stark lord that overrides the girls' claim. Manderly was assuming Arya was or might be real at the time, I think. Although Rickon would certainly be able to verify she's not. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Aug 25, 2011 |
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Aug 25, 2011 15:44
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kcroy posted:Lots of strong theories suggest that he is actually a Targaryen... There are lots of theories, but I wouldn't call any of them particularly strong.
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Aug 25, 2011 15:54
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dirkadirk2011 posted:Is this book really as bad as the Amazon reviews are making it out to be? Pretty much all of them completely trash it, saying it just spins its wheels and goes entirely loving nowhere the entire time. It's not as bad as the reviews make it and they are entirely correct.
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Aug 25, 2011 16:00
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niethan posted:Manderly sent Davos to find Rickon in order to have a stark heir to prove Bolton's Arya is fake. A mute ironman hid in a tree and followed Rickon and that wildling chick. Apparently he is at some really bad place. Something to do with cannibalism if i recall correctly?
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Aug 25, 2011 16:36
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bouncyman posted:So the mute ironman hid in a tree and watched Bran/Meera/Jojen and Rickon/Asha split ways... I wonder why Manderly sent Daavos after Rickon instead of Bran. Because he followed Rickon and not Bran. Nobody but Sam knows where Bran is right now, and then only that he's somewhere beyond the Wall.
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Aug 25, 2011 16:41
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dirkadirk2011 posted:Is this book really as bad as the Amazon reviews are making it out to be? Pretty much all of them completely trash it, saying it just spins its wheels and goes entirely loving nowhere the entire time. if you read AFFC when it came out - yes. If you just got into this series, and/or like the mythos behind the series - it's not as good as the first few books, but it sets a lot of pieces into play, so it's very CoK-ish.
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computer parts posted:if you read AFFC when it came out - yes. Imagine CoK except that instead of the bad rear end Battle of the Blackwater chapters, you get a note from one of the participants saying he won and that the other side was annihilated. That being said, I loved DwD.
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Aug 25, 2011 18:00
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Just finished the book. Was boring as gently caress but at least I can now give a comprehensive tour of the wonderful lands across the narrow sea. FINISH
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Aug 25, 2011 18:37
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Bank of Bravos dude is actually Syrio.
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niethan posted:Bank of Bravos dude is actually Syrio. Syrio is actually three different people with both shape-shifting and teleportational abilities.
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Aug 25, 2011 18:47
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UR1S posted:Also, to take the rule to its most extreme conclusion, since they never died in view of the reader, I'm on the fence if Pretty Pig and Crunch are really dead. I could go either way on them getting a happy ending. There are two characters who must survive the remaining books in order for me to not hate this series: - Strong Belwas - Pretty Pig For above: ADWD is only terrible if you waited five years and this was the payoff. As an entry in this particular series it's not one of the better books (I'd rank it as the worst so far, personally). As an entry in the genre and a piece of entertaining reading in general, it's not bad at all. Ross fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Aug 25, 2011 |
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Aug 25, 2011 19:33
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Ross posted:There are two characters who must survive the remaining books in order for me to not hate this series: I knoooooooow! Oh ho ho!
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Aug 25, 2011 19:52
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xamphear posted:I knoooooooow! Oh ho ho! I think Hot Pie already died 
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Aug 25, 2011 19:58
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dirkadirk2011 posted:Is this book really as bad as the Amazon reviews are making it out to be? Pretty much all of them completely trash it, saying it just spins its wheels and goes entirely loving nowhere the entire time. Read it. Amazon reviews are worth little and less.
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Aug 25, 2011 20:25
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Ross posted:I think Hot Pie already died YOU SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE RIGHT NOW
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Aug 25, 2011 20:35
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Habibi posted:There are lots of theories, but I wouldn't call any of them particularly strong.  you nose its true... you just don't want to face it.
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Aug 25, 2011 20:35
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I swear that could have come straight out of the "Let's Draw Retarded Dragons" thread of yore.
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furushotakeru posted:I swear that could have come straight out of the "Let's Draw Retarded Dragons" thread of yore. that thread is awesomesauce (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Aug 25, 2011 20:50
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Ross posted:There are two characters who must survive the remaining books in order for me to not hate this series: Buddy cop adventures. A rough dire wolf from cannibal island teams up with a pampered puss from kings landing to solve the mystery of the secret targ. Along the way they learn a little bit about friendship and a lot about themselves.
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kcroy posted:that thread is awesomesauce I will admit that I was very happy to have an excuse to go look it up as it had been a while.
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kcroy posted:Too much nose.
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