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the_chavi
Mar 2, 2005

Toilet Rascal

Kase Im Licht posted:

That happened either last year or the year before too. No excuse!

Agreed. Welcome to the government. :D

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The Mantis
Jul 19, 2004

what is yall sayin?

Kase Im Licht posted:

Where are the QEP results from the June exam? I'm going crazy here.

Looks like they came out 9/8 last year and 9/14 the year before.

Each day I go through a process of convincing myself I messed up the submission and have a stab of nausea. Ugh.

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester
Reason number 111 I joined the foreign service -- touring breweries, getting drunk, being surrounded by a dozen hyenas, and feeding them raw meat from my mouth while one jumps on my back.

the_chavi
Mar 2, 2005

Toilet Rascal

Diplomaticus posted:

Reason number 111 I joined the foreign service -- touring breweries, getting drunk, being surrounded by a dozen hyenas, and feeding them raw meat from my mouth while one jumps on my back.

Reason number 112 I joined the foreign service -- brunch with an archbishop, getting seasick on a ferry while the ambassador's wife held my hair back, and getting tours of Haghia Sophia from the people who built it.

Tortilla Maker
Dec 13, 2005
Un Desmadre A Toda Madre

the_chavi posted:

and getting tours of Haghia Sophia from the people who built it.

Fountain of youth has been in present day Turkey all this time?!

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester


Hyena man is the best man.

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
Its a puppy! :3:

Tortilla Maker posted:

Fountain of youth has been in present day Turkey all this time?!

What, you think Mediterraneans live healthier than us because of their diet?

Business of Ferrets
Mar 2, 2008

Good to see that everything is back to normal.
Since we're on the topic of how awesome this job is, I would just note that, for the next year, my workday is over by 2:30 pm every day.

(Language training rules!)

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
Which language? Also, :argh:

Business of Ferrets
Mar 2, 2008

Good to see that everything is back to normal.

Slaan posted:

Which language? Also, :argh:

日本語  :japan:

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
I hope you like frustration and studying a single kanji for hours because it just won't stick in your head. :argh:


But hey, once you get to Japan its awesome! :japan:

Business of Ferrets
Mar 2, 2008

Good to see that everything is back to normal.

Slaan posted:

I hope you like frustration and studying a single kanji for hours because it just won't stick in your head. :argh:


But hey, once you get to Japan its awesome! :japan:

Nah, kanji are the easy part; I already know and read Chinese, so it is really just the multiple readings I have to remember, and those are coming easily. And the grammar seems to be on par with other languages I've studied, so not worried there, either.

But yeah, my classmates are pretty terrified/awestruck by the kanji at this point.

Vilerat
May 11, 2002

Business of Ferrets posted:

Nah, kanji are the easy part; I already know and read Chinese, so it is really just the multiple readings I have to remember, and those are coming easily. And the grammar seems to be on par with other languages I've studied, so not worried there, either.

But yeah, my classmates are pretty terrified/awestruck by the kanji at this point.

Anime nerd spotted. You aren't fooling anybody.

tismondo
Dec 14, 2005

Take that, subspace!

Business of Ferrets posted:

Do note that this year (last year? not sure which cycle it was) the East Asian and Pacific Affairs Bureau did not allow interns in its missions overseas, so aspiring interns had to work in Washington if they wanted to work on Asia issues.
Do you know any more about this? I'm considering grad school in Seoul and planned to do an internship program there along the way. I have a friend (current FSO) who did exactly this in Tokyo a couple years ago and I was hoping to copy him... But if the no interns thing happens to be permanent I've got a lot of thinking to do.

the_chavi posted:

Sup Goons, second tour FSO speaking. This job kind of kicks rear end. You got questions, I got answers, usually.
What cone are you? Some of the OP is sparse in certain areas - mayhaps you could fill in some gaps?

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005

Business of Ferrets posted:

Nah, kanji are the easy part; I already know and read Chinese, so it is really just the multiple readings I have to remember, and those are coming easily. And the grammar seems to be on par with other languages I've studied, so not worried there, either.

But yeah, my classmates are pretty terrified/awestruck by the kanji at this point.

Wait till you get to the formalities! :negative: (and out of curiosity, are they teaching you general, business, or high 日本語?) or all 3 :psy:


edit: for the OA goons, someone on the yahoo boards called ACT for the June OA's - should get results in by 9/21?

Skandiaavity fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Sep 19, 2011

Swarmin Swedes
Oct 22, 2008
Well missed the QEP cut again, I thought adding an SCNL would help push me through but I guess its back to the drawing board.

Good luck to everyone who got through to the Oral Exams.

Bellum
Jun 3, 2011

All war is deception.
Didn't pass the QEP. Moving forward with application to the USMC.

Tortilla Maker
Dec 13, 2005
Un Desmadre A Toda Madre
Didn't get an invite to the OA either. Good luck to those who did!

Ronald Spiers posted:

I do hear that if you know Arabic you almost automatically get to the OA, but that is hearsay for me.

I wouldn't say that I "know" Arabic but my three semesters of Arabic (one while living on the Arabian peninsula) didn't seem to give me a boost in the eyes of the QEP.

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
Are the QEP using the new rules already or? (e.g. the "SCNL languages don't give you a leg up since you only get those after the orals)

Goondolences to those who didn't make the orals. (and to the USMC poster, look up the GI benefits where you enlist - they vary by state. OTOH the corps is a blast and a great experience.)

The Mantis
Jul 19, 2004

what is yall sayin?
gently caress

The Mantis fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Sep 19, 2011

Tortilla Maker
Dec 13, 2005
Un Desmadre A Toda Madre

The Mantis posted:

gently caress

Well now I'm curious.

The Mantis
Jul 19, 2004

what is yall sayin?
you can check online. and download the letter. and find out that you have to wait another loving year

Man Musk
Jan 13, 2010

Same.

Could they be admitting less people through the QEP because of the budget cuts? Could the hiring budget even affect passing rates at this point in the process?

In any case, this was a good first run and it gives me time to reevaluate my cone situation. I might even improve my life score by next exam. Much luck to those going forward!

Kase Im Licht
Jan 26, 2001
gently caress you State Dept. gently caress you right in the rear end.

Business of Ferrets
Mar 2, 2008

Good to see that everything is back to normal.

tismondo posted:

Do you know any more about this? I'm considering grad school in Seoul and planned to do an internship program there along the way. I have a friend (current FSO) who did exactly this in Tokyo a couple years ago and I was hoping to copy him... But if the no interns thing happens to be permanent I've got a lot of thinking to do.


The brochure on State's Student Programs website has a blurb about the East Asian and Pacific Affairs Bureau, with no mention of overseas spots being limited. That's no guarantee; I'm not sure if the previous cycles' policies were changes from the beginning or during the process. In any case, if funding becomes a problem, I would predict the intern program to be one of the first things to go.

Also, don't count on getting an internship. The year I chose our intern, we had more than 300 candidates for probably about 20 positions, county wide. And each office had its own criteria. I mean, yeah, it could happen (and that would be awesome, because these have to be some of the best internships available in the government) but don't plan your future around getting one.

Business of Ferrets
Mar 2, 2008

Good to see that everything is back to normal.

Vilerat posted:

Anime nerd spotted. You aren't fooling anybody.

I do confess, I love me some Gungrave.

TheImmigrant
Jan 18, 2011
Yar. Just got invited to OA. Fourth time.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

Macunaima posted:

Yar. Just got invited to OA. Fourth time.

Good luck! Hope you make it through this time because it sounds like it is only going to get more difficult these next (hopefully only) couple years.

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

Business of Ferrets posted:

Also, don't count on getting an internship. The year I chose our intern, we had more than 300 candidates for probably about 20 positions, county wide. And each office had its own criteria. I mean, yeah, it could happen (and that would be awesome, because these have to be some of the best internships available in the government) but don't plan your future around getting one.

Just to add on to what BoF is saying, as is evident from all the posters who've not made it through the process, anything within the Dept. is very competitive, and from all the talk of budget issues, will probably continue to get harder.

Think of the Dept as a Harvard type college. Go ahead and go for it (intern, specialist, FSO, etc.), but for sure have a backup plan and even when you get in, understand that if major cuts come, nobody is safe.

TCD fucked around with this message at 07:47 on Sep 20, 2011

Ronald Spiers
Oct 25, 2003
Soldier

TCD posted:

Just to add on to what BoF is saying, as is evident from all the posters who've not made it through the process, anything within the Dept. is very competitive, and from all the talk of budget issues, will probably continue to get harder.

Think of the Dept as a Harvard type college. Go ahead and go for it (intern, specialist, FSO, etc.), but for sure have a backup plan and even when you get in, understand that if major cuts come, nobody is safe.

drat it. That is depressing, I wanted to be in the FS since high school. I just don't know what to do between now and my dream of working for the FS besides joining Peace Corps and going to graduate school.

I want to be in the FS so badly that I try to think about every action I do within the prism of the 13 dimensions...

Ronald Spiers fucked around with this message at 09:29 on Sep 20, 2011

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

Ronald Spiers posted:

drat it. That is depressing, I wanted to be in the FS since high school. I just don't know what to do between now and my dream of working for the FS besides joining Peace Corps and going to graduate school.

I want to be in the FS so badly that I try to think about every action I do within the prism of the 13 dimensions...
I know several FSOs who are both former PC and grad students. So, that's not necessarily a bad thing.

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester
Congrats and/or regrets to everyone in this last round of OA invites. Seriously, if you didn't pass QEP, keep at it. It's not at all uncommon to pass your OA with a low score, expire off the register, and not pass the QEP the next time. It's an incredibly opaque process, and can be frustrating, but trust me it's so worth it.

Vilerat
May 11, 2002
IPC with windows status update:

Had a parade go by today, then a big rear end gold carriage. Saw the queen.

The foreign service is a tough life.

DasNeonLicht
Dec 25, 2005

"...and the light is on and burning brightly for the masses."
Fallen Rib
I feel like I don't have enough interesting or challenging life experience to pass the Q.E.P.

Isn't participating in the Peace Corps supposed to tack on a point or two to your oral exam score?

pamchenko
Apr 16, 2011
Just to reiterate what other people are saying, Foreign Service is absolutely rife with RPCVs. Plus, if you do Peace Corps and then make it into FS (or any federal job), you get credit for prior service and start earning more vacation faster! (Perk)

Bidding Bonanza continues. Seriously, the way they manage to draw this process out is ah-ma-zing and surely a testament to, erm, government efficiency.

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
News all around!

Not getting into the September class, but on the register :toot: (please be January, please be January

Edit: reminder for the interns - STEP and SCEP deadlines are 9/30! 9 days!

Skandiaavity fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Sep 21, 2011

mtreecorner
Sep 23, 2011
Hey all!

I am new here. I took and passed the June FSOT but unfortunately did not make the QEP cut. I used a lot of the info on this forum the past few months so I figure I would actually sign up. You guys have been a truly great resource (and inspiring).

Little bit about me: 26, grad student (IR/Comm), work full time at a federal agency (not state), learning Chinese on the side, Foreign Service is a dream career.

Question: I am thinking about applying to the State Department Summer Internship since I really need overseas experience. Anyone else applying to it? Has anyone done one?

pamchenko
Apr 16, 2011
Welcome, mtreecorner. I did a State Department internship, although not overseas; I have two very good friends who did overseas internships, and I'm pretty familiar with their experiences, so if you have any questions I'm happy to take a stab at them.

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester
Hi all, it's been announced that there's a November Generalist A-100; first round of invites went out yesterday or so.

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hitension
Feb 14, 2005


Hey guys, I learned Chinese so that I can write shame in another language
pamchenko - Would a (paid) internship in DC in Spring in a field that I am very, very interested in be worth it if it means either taking a lot of summer classes or postponing my graduation a semester?

I already delayed one year to do extra research/study abroad/transfer to university from CC. I just want to build more connections at my university so I can have my research advisor set up for senior year. Unfortunately I go to school in Boston, not DC. But this opportunity seems so tempting, do you feel your internship was worth it?

e: I realize this is horribly subjective and it's only a choice I can make. But do you feel like you gained skills that would be useful in your career? Was the work stimulating? Do employers seem impressed? etc.

hitension fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Sep 24, 2011

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