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Skyssx
Feb 2, 2001

by T. Fine

DELETED posted:

It's also the only wasp killer

Fire?

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kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

DELETED posted:

It's also the only wasp killer

Skyssx posted:

Fire?

combine these two ideas and you win. Seriously, you haven't lived until you try it. You probably haven't died till you try it, either.

I use non chlorinated brakleen which is basically acetone and heptane. Works great for everything from starting fires to distressing the neighbors to cleaning anything off anything else (I use it to wash my hands when I'm done with working on the jeep, takes 30sec and leaves them entirely clean, if needing a bit of a wash just to remoisturize) to cleaning brake hardware.

Grab the rotor by the center hole, hose both sides down, hang it on the lugs, load your pads into the caliper, hose them down, slap it on, and you're done. No gloves needed.

A 5 gallon pail full of acetone is great for cleaning parts too, and you only really have to buy it once, just fill it up and scrub parts off in it, then recap it when you are done. It costs a lot to fill the first time at $16/gallon but doesn't take long to break even if you consider how much brake cleaner costs.

Joe Mama
May 10, 2008
In every shop I've worked in brake clean is like Frank's Red Hot, we put that poo poo on everything, and yes, it definately gets used as bug killer. Brake clean is right up there with WD and duct tape on the man-scale.

As for rotors and pads, they dont need to be babied. As long as they are pretty clean with no non-human lubricants on them they're fine. I just put new rotors on my Miata this morning, no brake clean so I just used an assload of windex and scrubbed them really well with a rag. And I scuffed up the pads with sand paper. Perfecto.

The Rocket Salad
Sep 1, 2004

lol what
Wash your rotors with dish soap and a scotch-brite pad in the kitchen sink. Dry. Install as recommended.

Xy Hapu
Mar 7, 2004

I try to buy coated rotors where I can so I don't have to deal with cleaning that crap. Also because every time I look at rusty, flaking rotor vanes I feel like they're a mechanical failure on their own right, as I doubt a spongy rust layer is conducive to getting rid of heat. Not to mention issues with the hat seating improperly on the hub due to rust, getting stuck, etc. etc.

None mine and probably not a rust related failure but it's a picture at any rate:

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atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqQVk3WV2PU

:patriot:

nmfree
Aug 15, 2001

The Greater Goon: Breaking Hearts and Chains since 2006
The description of that video is surprisingly accurate: It ran until it stopped.

haxality
Oct 18, 2009
I don't want to be a downer, but have some insane footage of the Reno Air Race crash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HExCjKpQNH0

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

haxality posted:

I don't want to be a downer, but have some insane footage of the Reno Air Race crash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HExCjKpQNH0

Wow. There's a puff of dust and smoke and debris and then nothing.

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

haxality posted:

I don't want to be a downer, but have some insane footage of the Reno Air Race crash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HExCjKpQNH0
Jesus gently caress, I guess we know what a Kamikaze attack looks like now. Christ, that's pretty horrifying.

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

Fucknag posted:

Jesus gently caress, I guess we know what a Kamikaze attack looks like now. Christ, that's pretty horrifying.
This is a pretty amazing and terrifying picture.

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Pope Ron Paul II
Feb 10, 2008
GodTube Ron Paul?
Please tell me the pilot wasn't still in that :gonk:

jeff8472
Dec 28, 2000

He died from watch-in-ass disease

Pope Ron Paul II posted:

Please tell me the pilot wasn't still in that :gonk:

He was. Total of 9 dead.

http://jalopnik.com/5841252/chilling-video-of-deadly-nevada-air-race-crash

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE
Pretty crazy sound near the end.

Jesus here's a better link than jalopnik gizmodo poo poo ffs. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/americas/piece-may-have-fallen-off-of-plane-before-nevada-crash/article2169685/

Nitr0 fucked around with this message at 08:48 on Sep 18, 2011

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



Actually had an old friend of mine die in a plane crash a bit ago from a horrible mechanical failure in his light aircraft. He was only twenty one and one of my best friends freshman year of college was his passenger.

I don't know why but looking at these pictures of all these failures makes me feel oddly a bit better. :unsmith:

(That or the Civil Engineer inside me just likes looking at things break)

trouser chili
Mar 27, 2002

Unnngggggghhhhh

Beach Bum posted:

Brake cleaner should be the only solvent laying around. :colbert:

Ppfffffff. Carb cleaner, acetone, toluene, and aircraft remover should all be stocked.

Frank Dillinger
May 16, 2007
Jawohl mein herr!

trouser chili posted:

Ppfffffff. Carb cleaner, acetone, toluene, and aircraft remover should all be stocked.

what on earth is aircraft remover?

ijustam
Jun 20, 2005

I was going to add an attempt to be witty but apparently this is a thing: http://www.rustoleum.com/CBGProduct.asp?pid=385

:monocle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_DE96qt5CI

ijustam fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Sep 18, 2011

Bondematt
Jan 26, 2007

Not too stupid
^ Ok, that is just creepy and awesome. ^

Frank Dillinger posted:

what on earth is aircraft remover?

Pretty sure it's a paint stripper.

Or a German 30mm cannon, either seems correct.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
wow, that is some hardcore stuff. I can only imagine what it does to lungs and skin.

I am also an aircraft remover, tell me where the aircraft needing to be removed is and I will see to it that it goes away.

Shroomie
Jul 31, 2008

kastein posted:

wow, that is some hardcore stuff. I can only imagine what it does to lungs and skin.

I got a speck of it on the back of my hand once and it was rather unpleasant.

RapeWhistle
May 26, 2009
Where can I purchase this "aircraft remover" ?

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


ijustam posted:

I was going to add an attempt to be witty but apparently this is a thing: http://www.rustoleum.com/CBGProduct.asp?pid=385

:monocle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_DE96qt5CI

Woah!

So that's what they used on the vandalized car I saw a couple of weeks ago. I figured ordinary brake fluid would do some damage, but nothing that severe. That is some powerful poo poo right there.

Alpine Mustache
Jul 11, 2000

kastein posted:

wow, that is some hardcore stuff. I can only imagine what it does to lungs and skin.


If its anything like Toluene it is probably cancer in a bottle.

RapeWhistle
May 26, 2009
What's the best way to clean up after you've stripped your paint with that? The previous owner painted my e30 like 3 different colors, so I need to fully strip it and bring it to a shop to get painted. This poo poo makes it looks like a pretty easy job. I'll make sure to shut the garage door while I'm in it during this process.

Shroomie
Jul 31, 2008

RapeWhistle posted:

Where can I purchase this "aircraft remover" ?

Pretty much any auto parts store will have it with the paint and bondo.

Even Wal Mart has it most of the time.

Edit: The Klean-Strip brand stuff is the most common around here. Comes in both a pour can and an aerosol can.




Edit 2:

RapeWhistle posted:

What's the best way to clean up after you've stripped your paint with that? The previous owner painted my e30 like 3 different colors, so I need to fully strip it and bring it to a shop to get painted. This poo poo makes it looks like a pretty easy job. I'll make sure to shut the garage door while I'm in it during this process.

Use plastic scrapers to get the paint off, then wipe it down with a wet rag.

Shroomie fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Sep 18, 2011

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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I'd probably dry it off with a rag and then hose down with my favorite solvent ever, brakleen.

I think I need to pick some of this stuff up, along with a set of replacement filters for my respirator mask.

trouser chili
Mar 27, 2002

Unnngggggghhhhh

RapeWhistle posted:

I'll make sure to shut the garage door while I'm in it during this process.

If you shut the garage door you won't have to worry about clean up, it'll be someone else's problem.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

ijustam posted:

I was going to add an attempt to be witty but apparently this is a thing: http://www.rustoleum.com/CBGProduct.asp?pid=385

:monocle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_DE96qt5CI

Of course it's Boomerjinks. :lol:

Toucan Sam
Sep 2, 2000
I prefer the mar-hyde tal-strip gel aircraft remover. It's awesome to strip wheels fast and cheap, oxidized clear is no match for that stuff. I usually brush it on in the shade, let it sit for 15-20 minutes while using a plastic scraper to lift anything stubborn looking, and then powerwash it off. The best part is the radioactive green color that tells you that you should be wearing gloves but as long as you don't let it sit on your skin for very long it doesn't burn in my experience.

whose tuggin
Nov 6, 2009

by Hand Knit
I hope you guys are thankful that I did all this research at no-one, really's request:

Here's an ms-ds so we can see whats actually in aircraft remover: (link to .pdf file)
http://www.wmbarr.com/ProductFiles/A3900.2.pdf

Here's a list of "hazardous components", which I'm not sure if that's also a verbatim list of active ingredients, but it seems adequate to satiate our curiosity:

quote:

Hazardous Components (Chemical Name)
1. Dichloromethane {Methylene chloride}
2. Methanol
3.Poly(oxy-1,2-ethanediyl),
.alpha.-(nonylphenyl)-.omega.-hydr
{Nonylphenol Ethoxylate}
4.
Liquified petroleum gas, sweetened
{Propane-isobutane-n-butane}

Hazardous Components (Chemical Name)
1.
Dichloromethane {Methylene chloride}
2.Methanol
3.Poly(oxy-1,2-ethanediyl),
.alpha.-(nonylphenyl)-.omega.-hydr
{Nonylphenol Ethoxylate}
4.Liquified petroleum gas, sweetened
{Propane-isobutane-n-butane}

quote:

Note to Physician
This product contains methylene chloride and methanol (less than 4%).
This product contains methanol which can cause intoxication and central nervous system depression. Methanol is
metabolized to formic acid and formaldehyde. These metabolites can cause metabolic acidosis, visual
disturbances and blindness. Since metabolism is required for these toxic symptoms, their onset may be delayed
from 6 to 30 hours following ingestion. Ethanol competes for the same metabolic pathway and has been used to
prevent methanol metabolism. Ethanol administration is indicated in symptomatic patients or at blood methanol
concentrations above 20 ug/dl. Methanol is effectively removed by hemodialysis.
Adrenalin should never be given to a person overexposed to methylene chloride.

So we all know what methanol is; methyl aclohol, a solvent, fuel, and also the undesirable biproduct found in bad moonshine that will make you go blind. Apparently it metabolizes into formaldehyde [which you should recognize as enbalming fluid] and formic acid. WTF is formic acid... I swear I recognize that name... oh yeah its the active ingredient in ant and bee venom. Interestingly, its the simplest carboxylic acid; it was the first decontaminating agent used to clean operating and hospital rooms, a breakthrough which was later directly linked to profoundly decreased incidence of infection. Formic acid's name comes from the latin word for ant - "formica" - because it was first isolated by a distillation process from ants themselves. So we have formic acid to thank for sterility as a common practice in modern medicine. Oh yeah, and it is a substance that is metabolized when we absorb methanol through the skin.


So this poo poo is essentially several organic solvents, some polar [methanol] and some non-polar [the other petroleum distillates].

Among the latter, Dichloromethane is curious because not only is it a super volatile solvent, but (perhaps directly linked to this characteristic) its boiling point is so low it works awesome in heat engines (e.g. sterling engines). You know that weird little bird that rocks back and forth and "drinks" water from a cup with a bulb full of colored liquid? Its full of Dichloromethane. You know those bubble lights that you put on your christmas tree and one spontaneously exploded and stained the couch while everyone was outside on christmas day and no-one believed that you weren't even anywhere near it when it happened and blamed you? Dichloromethane.




So that's that. Thank you for reading far, far more than you ever wanted to know about "aircraft remover". I blame wikipedia for making me this way.

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

KozmoNaut posted:

Woah!

So that's what they used on the vandalized car I saw a couple of weeks ago. I figured ordinary brake fluid would do some damage, but nothing that severe. That is some powerful poo poo right there.
Jesus, no one tell kids about this poo poo or things will go crazy.

JayKay
Sep 11, 2001

And you thought they were cute and cuddly.

ijustam posted:

I was going to add an attempt to be witty but apparently this is a thing: http://www.rustoleum.com/CBGProduct.asp?pid=385

:monocle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_DE96qt5CI

That youtube video is incredibly awesome and disturbing at the same time

nitrogen
May 21, 2004

Oh, what's a 217°C difference between friends?

The Scientist posted:

So that's that. Thank you for reading far, far more than you ever wanted to know about "aircraft remover". I blame wikipedia for making me this way.

Thank you. I read this entire post in your avatar's voice. It was wonderful.

charliemonster42
Sep 14, 2005

Shroomie posted:

I got a speck of it on the back of my hand once and it was rather unpleasant.

My buddy and I were using it to remove the logos from the center caps on my old wheels and he was wearing shorts with holes in them, one being right on the crotch. He managed to drop some on the chair he was sitting on and then scooted forward onto it, applying it directly to his coin purse. He was not a happy camper.

RapeWhistle
May 26, 2009


This happened to an S2000 at a local autocross:
Lower ball joint screw backed out and then sheared off at the cotter pin holes. Lower control arm dropped down, contacted the inside of the rim, and then acted like a lathe bit, cutting the wheel in half.

Paul Boz_
Dec 21, 2003

Sin City
Was that in New Orleans this morning???

RapeWhistle
May 26, 2009

Paul Boz_ posted:

Was that in New Orleans this morning???

Yes.

INCHI DICKARI
Aug 23, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
My dad had like a 30 year old paint can of some sort of industrial carb dip, I dunked one of my old carbs and it came out shiny new in about a minute. Got some on my hands and it seriously felt like I had poured boiling water all over them instantaneously. Wonder what it was.

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kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

The Scientist posted:

:words: crazy chemical poo poo :words:

the one that really scares me is the "methyl-ethyl-badshit" one... Poly(oxy-1,2-ethanediyl),.alpha.-(nonylphenyl)-.omega.-hydr{Nonylphenol Ethoxylate}

Simply because that is a HELL of an IUPAC organic chemical name.

Here it is, in all its gory glory:


Yep I'm just gonna call it "methyl ethyl eat-your-face-off".

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