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I personally hope the next game is in a location close enough to California that we get to hear a little bit about previous games. Since NV moved east, maybe the next game can go north and we'll have it set in Washington state and northern oregon. It could be full of barren pine forests, rocky coast lines, and just try and tell me the Space Needle doesn't look like a goofy Fallout set piece anyway. My only problem is that it wouldn't have the deserts that really define the setting, but unless the games just keep going east and we have Fallout: Texas, they're going to run out of desert.
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Fallout: New York City. It would be exactly like New York, except the people would be friendlier. Also fighting super mutants in a busted-up statue of liberty would be awesome. 
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Oct 2, 2011 18:47
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CommanderCoffee posted:Hawaii, Midwest, Deep South. You got 3 'untouched' locations. Well, I think Tactics lightly handled the midwest. Still, 3 very clean-slate locales. We've got military bases and abandoned silos all over the midwest too; not to mention a great mix of dense urban areas and open fields with scattered farmlands. rolling hills, long stretches of highway, it all makes for some great opportunities for scenic vistas and interesting story locales. Plus, that 1950's Americana feel just sort of fits out here still in the more rural areas.
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Oct 2, 2011 18:50
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NeurosisHead posted:We've got military bases and abandoned silos all over the midwest too; not to mention a great mix of dense urban areas and open fields with scattered farmlands. rolling hills, long stretches of highway, it all makes for some great opportunities for scenic vistas and interesting story locales. Plus, that 1950's Americana feel just sort of fits out here still in the more rural areas. If we're talking about military bases, well, Hawaii's got them too. Pearl Harbor and whatnot. The real question is what do people want: Tropical vistas with ghouls in Hawaiian shirts, or rural vistas with silos?
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Oct 2, 2011 18:53
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jvempire posted:The thing is if Fallout was set in a new area with a new theme, new everything, it wouldn't be a Fallout game because it doesn't need to be a Fallout game. It would be like if Skyrim was placed in a feudal Japan setting with all reference to the past games thrown out the window. While this could still be good, it's not an Elder Scrolls game anymore. It would totally still be a Fallout game! It just wouldn't have vaults, vault suits, deathclaws, super mutants, the BoS or any other factions, or power armor! It might still have energy weapons and ghouls and raiders I guess? Yeah, I hate the "the next fallout should be set in ____" discussion, too. Its basically just fallout fanfiction.
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Assumethisisreal posted:I personally hope the next game is in a location close enough to California that we get to hear a little bit about previous games. Since NV moved east, maybe the next game can go north and we'll have it set in Washington state and northern oregon. It could be full of barren pine forests, rocky coast lines, and just try and tell me the Space Needle doesn't look like a goofy Fallout set piece anyway. My only problem is that it wouldn't have the deserts that really define the setting, but unless the games just keep going east and we have Fallout: Texas, they're going to run out of desert. There's plenty of desert type areas east of the Cascade range.
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Oct 2, 2011 18:55
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I would like to see a Fallout game set in Europe. Surely they had vault-equivalents.
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CommanderCoffee posted:If we're talking about military bases, well, Hawaii's got them too. Pearl Harbor and whatnot. The real question is what do people want: Tropical vistas with ghouls in Hawaiian shirts, or rural vistas with silos? All I know is I want to see a nuclear warhead rise out of a farming silo.
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How exactly does respawning in NV work? If I get a hankering to fight Deathclaws, will they respawn in the Quarry? Or are they extinct now?  Edit: And am I the only one having trouble with VATS since GRA came out? I'm on the 360, and about a third of the time I use VATS since I installed it, my character decides to just chillax when after I try and fire. It'll go into third person, and sometimes he'll aim down the barrel like he's thinking about firing, other times he holds the gun like he's just walking around. Meanwhile the loving Cazador is like right there on my rear end stinging me. Usually 15-20 seconds later (Also possibly when I get a broken limb. that seems to snap me out of it) I'll exit VATS without firing a shot and without spending any AP. It's getting pretty frustrating. Assumethisisreal fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Oct 2, 2011 |
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Oct 2, 2011 19:52
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The ones in Quarry Junction don't respawn, but there are some in other places that do. Can't remember off the top of my head.
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Oct 2, 2011 19:55
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They respawn in Dead Wind Cavern, and around the entrance to it pro tip: Do Not fast travel to Dead Wind Cavern
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Oct 2, 2011 20:02
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Holy crap, the Courier's Mile. Do not go there unless you have a high red resist and plenty of Rad-X and Radaway.
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Wolfsheim posted:Yeah, I hate the "the next fallout should be set in ____" discussion, too. Its basically just fallout fanfiction. What else are we supposed to discuss? Most of the talk in this thread was redundant long ago, even in the old thread. Now that shop ( ) has completely closed on New Vegas it seems completely legit to speculate on the inevitable next game.I'm hoping for a radical departure myself, assuming the team behind it is competent. I don't want them to ditch the iconic Fallout stuff or even America as a setting, but there is still an entire country to explore and populate. The truth is I don't have a lot of confidence in Bethesda to integrate Fallout to Hawaii or Florida, but I'd love to see the insanity that's going on over there. The Commonwealth could be awesome too, but a straight skip to replicant style androids from the clunky Mr. Gutsies would be a hard sale.
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Oct 2, 2011 20:15
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CommanderCoffee posted:Did I say those that were not NCR/Mojave citizens were not slaves? May have been implied, but then again, there is an advantage to keeping captured enemy in the camp and actual Legion Baby Breeders away from it. But anyway. I don't see any reason captured NCR people wouldn't be used as Legion Baby Breeders, given that the Legion is all about forced assimilation. Akalies posted:The truth is I don't have a lot of confidence in Bethesda to integrate Fallout to Hawaii or Florida, but I'd love to see the insanity that's going on over there. The Commonwealth could be awesome too, but a straight skip to replicant style androids from the clunky Mr. Gutsies would be a hard sale. Strudel Man fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Oct 2, 2011 |
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Oct 2, 2011 20:18
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Wolfsheim posted:It would totally still be a Fallout game! It just wouldn't have vaults, vault suits, deathclaws, super mutants, the BoS or any other factions, or power armor! It might still have energy weapons and ghouls and raiders I guess? Hm, yes, fans speculating on where the franchise is going would definitely be based on fictive knowledge without any announcement. It is more fun to speculate the fiction than to speculate the fact, which is that it's going to be made and it is going to probably involve everything we've had in previous iterations, regardless of how appropriate it is to have them there. I mean, it wasn't appropriate for there to be Super Mutants on the East coast, but here we are.
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Oct 2, 2011 20:26
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Hey guys, I played Fallout New Vegas and pretty much loved the game. Would getting Fallout/Fallout 2 be a good decision, or are they too dated to really be enjoyed these days? In other words, have they aged well for someone who is playing them +10 years later?
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Oct 2, 2011 21:03
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Democrazy posted:Hey guys, I played Fallout New Vegas and pretty much loved the game. Would getting Fallout/Fallout 2 be a good decision, or are they too dated to really be enjoyed these days? In other words, have they aged well for someone who is playing them +10 years later? Did you like the original Deus Ex? If the answer is yes, then definitely. I would say that FO1 is better, but FO2 is still worth getting. If the answer is no, what kind of person are you?
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Oct 2, 2011 21:05
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Democrazy posted:Hey guys, I played Fallout New Vegas and pretty much loved the game. Would getting Fallout/Fallout 2 be a good decision, or are they too dated to really be enjoyed these days? In other words, have they aged well for someone who is playing them +10 years later? Fallout 3 was my first Fallout game. When I picked up and played both the originals, I basically swore off it forever. New Vegas is a return to form, though. Basically, if you like good games with quality writing and humor (and can stomach isometric and slightly dated gameplay), you'll love them.
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Oct 2, 2011 21:08
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Democrazy posted:Hey guys, I played Fallout New Vegas and pretty much loved the game. Would getting Fallout/Fallout 2 be a good decision, or are they too dated to really be enjoyed these days? In other words, have they aged well for someone who is playing them +10 years later? How much can you tolerate turn based combat and really old graphics? There are mods out there that help with some resolution issues. There is also a lot less hand holding unless you know exactly what you are doing.
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Oct 2, 2011 21:08
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I couldn't play F1 and 2; they were just too plodding for me to actually play :/
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Democrazy posted:Hey guys, I played Fallout New Vegas and pretty much loved the game. Would getting Fallout/Fallout 2 be a good decision, or are they too dated to really be enjoyed these days? In other words, have they aged well for someone who is playing them +10 years later? Those are still good games but going back can be kind of rough. The combat is in comparison brutally slow. It improves as your guns get better and you can kill people faster but at the start you are more or less hitting one to two shots a turn probably without even killing the other guy and then the other enemies take their turns which with ten or more enemeis is painful to wait through. It isn't even that tactical when compared to other turn based games like jagged alliance. Its just dull. When you have good guns its much more bearable so if you do go back be prepared for a few bad hours.
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Has anyone else ended up with two copies of ED-E as a I'm not sure whether it happened after Dead Money or Honest Hearts(I fast traveled from one into the other) and it was before the other two were installed. When I returned to the Dead Money BOS bunker after HH I found ED-E hung up on an nearby cliff. I thought that was weird, because I sent him back to Primm prior to Dead Money. It wouldn't bring up the companion control when I pressed E, just the dialog. I could get it to follow through the dialog. I told it to go back to Lucky 38 and then fast traveled to Gun Runners, and it fast traveled with me but continued on to New Vegas through Freeside. I decided to watch ED-E from a distance with pride as he killed not only the Freeside punks in his way, but even took out a Securitron Mk II at the gate. I think they went hostile because he opened fire on a punk too close to the checkpoint. Once it got to the Presidential Suite it still did not have a working companion control screen so I used the dismissal terminal and it went back to Primm. I went back to Pick ED-E up and there were now two. One had the working companion control and other the dialog only version. Maybe there were two ED-E's all along, like a robot version of that footprints poem. Prize Chicken fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Oct 2, 2011 |
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Democrazy posted:Hey guys, I played Fallout New Vegas and pretty much loved the game. Would getting Fallout/Fallout 2 be a good decision, or are they too dated to really be enjoyed these days? In other words, have they aged well for someone who is playing them +10 years later? I'm currently playing Fallout for the first time and loving every minute, it's definitely worth a go especially since they're so cheap. It's definitely not dated, it's a little slow but the humour is top-notch. Also: there is an "always run" setting. Only discovered it today. Makes the game so much quicker. 
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Tagging Small Guns and Melee Weapons and having a high AG helps out a lot for early-game combat in FO1, and FO2 to a lesser extent. Also, turn up the combat speed in the settings to the maximum. It doesn't actually affect the combat, just how fast the animations go. There's a thread about FO1/2/Tactics here. Might be a good idea to add that to the OP. I don't have PMs.
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If the Skyrim engine is used for the next Fallout game then I want the setting to be the middle america "open fields, farmland, small towns", so then we can have some legion type faction with cavalry riding across the wastes. The thought of fighting a squad of cavalry with fallout weaponry just seems so ridiculously fitting to me.
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Akalies posted:The Commonwealth could be awesome too, but a straight skip to replicant style androids from the clunky Mr. Gutsies would be a hard sale. Forget the realistic replicants, I want an army of Festuses (Festii?). For information about the robot uprising, say "Silly ol' armed insurrection"!
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jvempire posted:If the Skyrim engine is used for the next Fallout game then I want the setting to be the middle america "open fields, farmland, small towns", so then we can have some legion type faction with cavalry riding across the wastes. The thought of fighting a squad of cavalry with fallout weaponry just seems so ridiculously fitting to me. I want FO4 to have horses and/or motorcycles, because anything post-apocalyptic isn't complete without that.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Mechanical horse-cycles Yeah, I actually kinda want this. I've asked myself why motorcycles/mutated horses weren't available for use in FO3 and FNV. I hope they add something like this in there.
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Dead Man Posting posted:Yeah, I actually kinda want this. And really there's a lot of things you could possibly ride in fallout (RADSCOPRIONS!!)
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Oct 2, 2011 21:55
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Is there any way to re-enable the crazy old world blues spawns after you finish the DLC?
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Has anyone ever seen any opinions or writeups by Bethesda on Obsidian's take on the franchise? I'm guessing any public comments like that would be discouraged because it'd fuel rumor mills like mad but I'd love to know what they think about the different gameplay mechanics and plotting and so on.
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DieLaughing posted:Has anyone ever seen any opinions or writeups by Bethesda on Obsidian's take on the franchise? I'm guessing any public comments like that would be discouraged because it'd fuel rumor mills like mad but I'd love to know what they think about the different gameplay mechanics and plotting and so on. All the official announcements show up on Bethesda's blog, but its all just kinda generic marketing talk. Semi-related, but one of the questions asked when Skyrim was announced was if it had a branching main plot like New Vegas, and the official response was something like "we just want to focus on telling a specific story really well, since that's what we're good at." So in case you were hoping Obsidian might've actually taught them a thing or two about game development, the answer looks to be not really. I would expect Fallout 4 to follow more closely to the 'choices' present in Fallout 3 than anything meaningful, unless they hand it off to Obsidian, which they won't. But hey, I understand New Vegas made them quite a bit of cash, maybe they'll ask Obsidian for another offshoot in six years.
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Wasn't there a quote from a Bethesda dev that said something like 'Wasn't the Mojave fun - seems like there might be more to do there...'?
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Rather Dashing posted:Wasn't there a quote from a Bethesda dev that said something like 'Wasn't the Mojave fun - seems like there might be more to do there...'? Don't toy with my heart For anyone who's wondering about sales figures, I just saw a couple things: http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/941/941189p1.html quote:Since its release, Fallout 3 has received widespread critical praise from several publications on top of fantastic sales. Bethesda announced in early November that the game had already shipped 4.7 million units since its October debut. http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2010/11/8/fallout-new-vegas-rakes-24300-million-at-launch2c-2450m2b-online.aspx quote:The launch results of Fallout: New Vegas are in, and they're quite impressive. Bethesda Softworks, a ZeniMax Media company shipped five million units for the launch. The game was available for Microsoft Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and the PC platform through Microsoft's Games for Windows program. Furthermore, the game was available through digital distribution services such as Steam and Games for Windows: Live, with Steam presumeably carrying the bulk of digital sales. So yeah, New Vegas did good 
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Wolfsheim posted:"we just want to focus on telling a specific story really well, since that's what we're good at." This sounds like a nice way of saying "We can barely fit a specific story together without Lucas sized plot holes. So we're going to stick with that."
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Clearly what you guys need is Fallout: South America. Heck sometimes I feel we are in a post-apocalyptic setting already.
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CommanderCoffee posted:Deep South Well, now I know where I want the next Fallout game to take place. Possibly make it take place in the Appalachians. Get involved with all the feudin' between different families, have an abundance of moonshine, maybe meet some hillbilly squids what talk like they is Unknown Hinson. Throw some references to "The Hills Have Eyes" (preferably the 1977 version) and some jokey Petticoat Junction stuff and we're golden.
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Fallout: Detroit. The twist is it has become a Utopia.
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turboraton posted:Clearly what you guys need is Fallout: South America. Heck sometimes I feel we are in a post-apocalyptic setting already. A FAVELA FULL OF SUPERMUTANTS 
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