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Nakar posted:Unless they get some weird mission or something, it's not unimaginable that they'd stay allies. There's a religion difference, sure, but that alone won't cause a broken friendship in EU3. The only thing I've seen definitely cause the AI to go full-on "gently caress our mutual history" mode is getting a mission or having a core that pits them against you. Biggest concerns are that they get a mission on us or a random border dispute event, yeah.
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Wiz posted:Biggest concerns are that they get a mission on us or a random border dispute event, yeah.
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So the Golden Horde is now in three completely isolated pieces within Russia. Why do they even still exist as a single entity anymore? Shouldn't they be three baby Khanates now? And why the hell didn't Russia finish them off?
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Necroskowitz posted:So the Golden Horde is now in three completely isolated pieces within Russia. Why do they even still exist as a single entity? Shouldn't they be three baby Khanates now? And why the hell didn't Russia finish them off? EU3 AI.
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Necroskowitz posted:So the Golden Horde is now in three completely isolated pieces within Russia. Why do they even still exist as a single entity? Shouldn't they be three baby Khanates now? And why the hell didn't Russia finish them off? 1. EU3 mechanics v  v2. The Golden Horde were too big to annex. You can only annex a country through war if it's 3 provinces or smaller. Muscovy will probably devour it with next war.
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We should have taken those GH provinces we occupied *mumble grumble*
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The Horde Mechanics might have worked if the Khanates were more likely to splinter like they historically did at succession crises.
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The Saurus posted:We should have taken those GH provinces we occupied *mumble grumble* And got what? A bunch of wrong culture low tax provinces? our future is to the west... in Armenia
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theblastizard posted:The Horde Mechanics might have worked if the Khanates were more likely to splinter like they historically did at succession crises. In Fun2eu a succession crisis will create some nationalist rebels, and if the horde is over 15 provinces, they will lose any provinces that have been occupied by enemies, as long as they don't border the horde capital.
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Brutus Salad posted:And got what? A bunch of wrong culture low tax provinces? our future is to the west... in Armenia Tartar is in our culture group, at least.
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Riso posted:In Fun2eu a succession crisis will create some nationalist rebels, and if the horde is over 15 provinces, they will lose any provinces that have been occupied by enemies, as long as they don't border the horde capital. Yeah, but this just helps mega-Poland/Lithuania/Austria.
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That too, but they always eventually collapse and the reborn Oirat Horde and Kazakhs get quickly mugged by the mighty Yurohpeans...
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Patter Song posted:Tartar is in our culture group, at least. Oh yeah that's right, I keep thinking we're in the Semitic Group for some reason. We really should be in the Semitic Group.
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Brutus Salad posted:Oh yeah that's right, I keep thinking we're in the Semitic Group for some reason. No, Azeri should be in the Persian group.
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Patter Song posted:They have been colonizing: the West Coast of Africa. Presumably they'll jump further down and hit Cameroon in a while. They've only colonized like, three provinces and haven't done anything for about a century. Presumably they are too poor to colonize and seem to be doing really badly economically as it seems we've recently out teched them, but I really hope that isn't the case.
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Riso posted:No, Azeri should be in the Persian group. Or Turkic.
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Proposition Joe posted:They've only colonized like, three provinces and haven't done anything for about a century. Presumably they are too poor to colonize and seem to be doing really badly economically as it seems we've recently out teched them, but I really hope that isn't the case. 30 years /= a century. And when you're as poor as they are, grabbing a lot of growing colonies is a surefire route to bankruptcy. Letting them grow into cities patiently and grabbing new ones one by one is a far smarter tactic.
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Patter Song posted:30 years /= a century. Edit: Was thinking about Portugal for some reason. Frionnel fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Oct 5, 2011 |
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On the other hand, thanks to the Golden Horde's new borders Muskowy looks like it's upset by Qurighar's leering.
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England colonized most of the East Coast in ten years? drat. And Korea is pushing Manchu back out of the peninsula! 
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Wiz will the mod only work with your world or will it work with the regular EUIII world?
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Necroskowitz posted:On the other hand, thanks to the Golden Horde's new borders Muskowy looks like it's upset by Qurighar's leering. Thanks, now i can't unsee it. 
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Can we singlehandedly take on Persia?
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Every update just makes me more anxious to play this mod. Is there anything of value remaining with the GH or will you just let Muscowny swallow them up for good?
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Can we vote to be the Persian Empire or the Ottoman Empire? 
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Talas posted:Can we vote to be the Persian Empire or the Ottoman Empire? Bah. We should be the Caucasus Empire. Our flag would be a pillar atop a black field. A pillar that is also on fire.
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Frionnel posted:Or Turkic. It's in the Turkic group, actually. Wiz posted a map way back. The Azerbaijanis are actually one of the groups that show up the problems with the way Paradox renders culture groups (linguistically, for the most part) because their language is Turkic but they tend to have as much or more in common with Persianate culture than with their Turkish cousins. The majority of Azerbaijanis in the world today live in Iran, and they get along pretty well. I think in the original version of EU3 the Ottoman's main culture ("Turkish") was in the Turkic group, which is linguistically correct but culturally a bit ridiculous, so in more recent versions they've been lumped into the "Turko-Semitic" culture group which also includes the different branches of Arabs. Still, it's an imperfect solution, because cultural identity was just really mushy in the early modern period, and it wasn't something that could be readily used to divide up populations until probably the late 18th to early 19th century. EU3 at least does a much better job than EU2, thanks to events giving extra accepted cultures or representing culture swap in provinces. EDIT: Snipee posted:Can we singlehandedly take on Persia? It would be safer to find an ally, judging from the state of the world 1500 chapter. They have a very high income and a sizable army, but I would guess by now that we edge them out in tech and with Grand Army and the conquests since that update, we can probably match them in the field (our overall manpower is probably lower). Schenck v. U.S. fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Oct 5, 2011 |
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Rejected Fate posted:Bah. We should be the Caucasus Empire. 
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EvanSchenck posted:It's in the Turkic group, actually. Wiz posted a map way back. The Azerbaijanis are actually one of the groups that show up the problems with the way Paradox renders culture groups (linguistically, for the most part) because their language is Turkic but they tend to have as much or more in common with Persianate culture than with their Turkish cousins. The majority of Azerbaijanis in the world today live in Iran, and they get along pretty well. I think in the original version of EU3 the Ottoman's main culture ("Turkish") was in the Turkic group, which is linguistically correct but culturally a bit ridiculous, so in more recent versions they've been lumped into the "Turko-Semitic" culture group which also includes the different branches of Arabs. Still, it's an imperfect solution, because cultural identity was just really mushy in the early modern period, and it wasn't something that could be readily used to divide up populations until probably the late 18th to early 19th century. Turko-Semetic was put in there so that if the Ottomans follow their missions and conquer the Malmuks they aren't bogged down with a bunch of 1 base tax wrong culture group poo poo provinces. Instead they are bogged down with 1 base tax right culture group wrong culture poo poo provinces.
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Affi posted:Wiz will the mod only work with your world or will it work with the regular EUIII world? It would need porting to work in vanilla. I might port it to vanilla, but it wouldn't work to have both in the same mod due to the structural changes to revolters, etc.
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Patter Song posted:Turko-Semetic was put in there so that if the Ottomans follow their missions and conquer the Malmuks they aren't bogged down with a bunch of 1 base tax wrong culture group poo poo provinces. Instead they are bogged down with 1 base tax right culture group wrong culture poo poo provinces. There isn't a whole lot of 1 base tax provinces in the Mamluks, except for in the south end of Egypt. Most Syrian provinces are quite good, especially compared to Anatolia which is full of base tax 3 provinces.
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Wiz posted:There isn't a whole lot of 1 base tax provinces in the Mamluks, except for in the south end of Egypt. Most Syrian provinces are quite good, especially compared to Anatolia which is full of base tax 3 provinces. I was referring to the provinces in modern Jordan and the Sinai.
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Patter Song posted:I was referring to the provinces in modern Jordan and the Sinai. Yeah, alright, those are pretty crap, but I don't think it would really drag the Ottomans down. Once you're beyond a certain size additional provinces don't matter much.
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If I'm playing in that part of the world I usually just conquer everything up to Cairo and sell all the tax 1 provinces in Egypt to a vassal. Then you're only stuck with a few really poo poo provinces and it's well worth it for holy cities / Cairo / Alexandria / Syria.
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Oct 5, 2011 22:24
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Is the Golden Horde and the provinces just recently taken from them still pagan?
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Viola the Mad posted:Is the Golden Horde and the provinces just recently taken from them still pagan? Yes.
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Cowcatcher posted:This is the best flag.
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Rejected Fate posted:This is the best flag. I dunno, the switch from three dimensional perspective to two dimensional at the top makes me a bit. But that is being nitpicky, it looks pretty awesome overall.
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