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Monkeytime
Mar 20, 2010


A, Administrative Monarchy and A, ecumenism.

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Leperflesh
May 17, 2007



Government
Option B: Despotic Monarchy. Feudalism is way cooler than administrative whatever.

Ideas
Option C: Engineer Corps. We will mitigate the stultifying affect of feudalism on innovation by funding and supplying a corps of engineers who will build great works and move the country forward (but mainly find new and intriguing ways to kill our enemies).

White-Devil
Aug 15, 2009


Government
Option A

--

Ideas
Option C

Because we're gonna need that +% on our forts when Russia decides to punch us in the face.

The Grundtvigian
Mar 16, 2006

bork bork bork!
*cha cha cha*


Govern: A

Idea: C

The Dipshit
Dec 21, 2005

by FactsAreUseless


Government
Option A

--

Ideas
Option C

insider
Feb 22, 2007

A secret room... always my favourite room in a house.

Government: B
Idea: A

Schenck v. U.S.
Sep 8, 2010


Government

A for Administrative Monarchy. As new lands and new peoples are added to the Well-Protected Domains of the Najjars the strains of administering a territory that stretches across the Caucasus must also increase. We can only rely upon and expand the bureaucracy that we have already established (e.g. our starting national idea) to ensure that the realm is at peace and directives from Tabriz are executed. In a country this fractious, to rule by decree without in turn ensuring the fair administration and stout protection of the people would only incite rebellion; worse, deferring these responsibilities to feudal grandees would surely endanger the rule of the Sultan and expose his subjects to the predations of local nobles. Instead we must design a Sublime State, in which the varied subjects of the Najjar Sultans know that they are ruled rightly, and therefore happily submit to be ruled.

Idea

C for Corps of Engineers. For centuries our corner of the world has seen no end of warfare. Though they are to be lauded for their victories, the aggressive orientation of our fighting men causes them to neglect the defense of the cities. We should ensure that on entering Azerbaijan an enemy finds nothing but the stoutest fortifications, so that our glorious armies have sufficient time to bring them to heel without exposing the subjects and property of the Sultan to danger.

Though toleration of the Sunnis would be wise and in keeping with the best traditions of Azerbaijani governance, it is to be regretted that it is an idea whose time has not yet come, because the Sultan rules only a small community of these heretics. As to proposals for the national bank, it is beneath contempt to sully the Sultan's hands with the lending of money at interest.

srsly guys with our patron of the arts NI we shouldn't have any trouble recruiting a 5 or 6 star master of mint if inflation ever becomes a problem

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006


A and C

logger
Jun 28, 2008

...and in what manner the Ancyent Marinere came back to his own Country.
Soiled Meat

EvanSchenck posted:

srsly guys with our patron of the arts NI we shouldn't have any trouble recruiting a 5 or 6 star master of mint if inflation ever becomes a problem

You have to remember that Wiz changed it so when you recruit an adviser you lose all your cultural tradition.

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE

The Saurus posted:

We need to tolerate heathens, not heretics. Ecumenism is thoroughly useless at this time.

You're thoroughly useless at this time but you don't see us harping on about that, do you?

National Bank would be very useful but I would like a more religious tolerant Azerbaijan so you know. :shobon:

Kainser
Apr 27, 2010

O'er the sea from the north
there sails a ship
With the people of Hel
at the helm stands Loki
After the wolf
do wild men follow


Government:
Option B: Despotic Monarchy.

Idea:
Option C: Engineer Corps.

Fortifications and a feudal monarchy owns, that is all.

e; our very strong aristocracy would probably prefer it as well. You wouldn't want the nobles to overthrow our government, do you? :colbert:

Kainser fucked around with this message at 08:06 on Oct 6, 2011

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice
The administrators in the administrative monarchy would come from the ranks of our very strong aristocracy.

Schenck v. U.S.
Sep 8, 2010

logger posted:

You have to remember that Wiz changed it so when you recruit an adviser you lose all your cultural tradition.

Even so, advisors can live a pretty long time, and we'll also be getting more magistrates with Administrative Monarchy who can be expended for cultural tradition. Getting a good Master of Mint would just require planning ahead and anticipating the need. I don't know what the effects the different advisor types have under Wizmod, but inflation reduction of -.05 isn't really that huge. Nor is inflation a serious problem just yet. National bank is a bit of a no-brainer in vanilla EU3, but it seems more balanced here.

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE

EvanSchenck posted:

Even so, advisors can live a pretty long time, and we'll also be getting more magistrates with Administrative Monarchy who can be expended for cultural tradition.

Can't use magistrates for cultural tradition now either.

Kainser
Apr 27, 2010

O'er the sea from the north
there sails a ship
With the people of Hel
at the helm stands Loki
After the wolf
do wild men follow
Burgundy has the worst borders right now.

Seriously, it looks like a head with a huge nose and a ridiculous tumor.

Hyord
Aug 24, 2011


B - Despotic Monarchy, for the government choice. L'etat, c'est Wiz.

A - Ecumenism, for the idea choice. National bank would be far too useful :colbert:

Vaos
Dec 30, 2008

Unleash the fiery Armageddon.


Government: A
Idea : C

Hafl
Mar 17, 2009

Why yes, I am a crazy cat lady.


Government: A: Administrative Monarchy

Idea: C: Engineer Corps

Because in the future, Azerbaijan will need to build trains.

Kainser
Apr 27, 2010

O'er the sea from the north
there sails a ship
With the people of Hel
at the helm stands Loki
After the wolf
do wild men follow
We should go max defensive, get engineer corps and then build the Great Wall of Azerbaijan to defend us against the barbaric Christians and Sunnis.

RabidWeasel
Aug 4, 2007

Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!

Govt: A
Idea: C

Not for any idealistic reasons, just a more bureaucratic government and a better chance of not dying quite so horribly if we end up at war with someone bigger than us.

Arcadion
Mar 3, 2005


Government: B
Idea : C

Hyord
Aug 24, 2011
Everyone voting A is boring and no fun at all. The true path to glorious tolerance is by being as absolute and despotic as possible and hope to god we get to be the revolutionary target.

Glorious Revolutionary Azerbaijan. Liberty, equality, brotherhood.

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

Kainser posted:

We should go max defensive, get engineer corps and then build the Great Wall of Azerbaijan to defend us against the barbaric Christians and Sunnis.
If we do that, then how will we conquer Persia/India/China/World? :colbert:

Popy
Feb 19, 2008

To be truly tolerant we need Jerusalem. :colbert:

Lets tolerantly take Jerusalem.

Schenck v. U.S.
Sep 8, 2010

John Charity Spring posted:

Can't use magistrates for cultural tradition now either.

I wish there was a super-post where this was all explained so I wouldn't keep looking the fool. Anyway, inflation still shouldn't be in the danger zone for a while and we've gotten by without minting so far, so national bank can wait for one or two more government tech milestones.

Kainser
Apr 27, 2010

O'er the sea from the north
there sails a ship
With the people of Hel
at the helm stands Loki
After the wolf
do wild men follow

Hyord posted:

Everyone voting A is boring and no fun at all. The true path to glorious tolerance is by being as absolute and despotic as possible and hope to god we get to be the revolutionary target.

Glorious Revolutionary Azerbaijan. Liberty, equality, brotherhood.
Now this is tolerance I can agree with. Azadlıq, bərabərlik, qardaşlıq.

Just a shame that it's pretty much impossible for a competent player to get the revolution unless you intentionally ruin your country.

Affi
Dec 18, 2005

Break bread wit the enemy

X GON GIVE IT TO YA


Government: A
Idea : C

Undead Unicorn
Sep 14, 2010

by Lowtax

A: Administrative Monarchy
C: Engineer Corps

gently caress peace

Lord Hypnostache
Nov 6, 2009

OATHBREAKER

A for Administrative Monarchy. Because that seems to be the way Azerbaijan is going.

C for Engineer Corps. I don't think Azerbaijan gets to decide when the next war starts and we have some pretty dangerous neighbours.

Lando131
Jul 27, 2006

This is one way to find scum...

Government: A
Idea: C

Badass generals are the way to the future!

Freudian
Mar 23, 2011



Government A
Idea C

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

Keep on GOP rolling rolling rolling rolling.

Remember Option 2A: unlocks even more tolerance events, lets remember to be MINIMUM HITLER here folks.

Archaeology Hat
Aug 10, 2009


Government A
Idea B

Will now go back and find a link to the survey.

Munin
Nov 14, 2004


I vote for A Administrative Monarchy and B National Bank.

I'll definitely get behind more tolerance later but we need to keep inflation under control and the advisor changes Wiz made should have made that more difficult. The only reason I'd vote for Engineers is for the building dicount and if we're going to have everything being 10% more expensive due to inflation anyway...

I should add the inflation also adds to tech costs so the more inflation we have the more backwards we're likely to be. If we want a powerful progressive country we need to keep inflation in check.

Munin
Nov 14, 2004


Talking about imperialism/expansion I'd prefer if we tried making the Caspian our pond rather than trying to be Turkey/Ottomans 2.0. Not to mention that the people around the Caspian are in the same culture group as us.

Also, Wiz, did you change the events triggered by having the various NIs? One of the main advantages of several NIs were the really nice positive events they could trigger.

Sockerbagarn
Sep 8, 2007

All makt åt Tengil, vår befriare.

Bad
Boy
Less tolerating more pew pew. We need more of those strange smelly foreigners under our banner so that when we start tolerating them later they'll appreciate it more.

Xerophyte
Mar 17, 2008

This space intentionally left blank

A: Administrative Monarchy.
B: National Bank.

Noreaus
May 22, 2008

HEY, WHAT'S HAPPENING? :)

A - Administrative Monarchy
B - National Bank

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

B: Despotic Monarchy.
A: Ecumenism

Enlightened Despotism, here we come!

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biglads
Feb 21, 2007

I could've gone to Blatherwycke




Government: A: Administrative Monarchy
Idea: B: National Banks

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