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Wiz posted:By the way, when complaining that colonization is too fast, try to mind that a lot of the territory that shows as colonized on the map is still just colonies, not cities. Also the new world is setup to be discovered around 1450 in this timeline, as opposed to 1492. There's no specific historical reason that the discovery of America could only happen in 1492. Besides, by 1550 OTL most of the non-rainforest parts of southamerica were explored and claimed in the name of the spanish king
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Dr. Tough posted:How long has France been broken up? They collapsed in the 1200s.
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Oct 7, 2011 19:10
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Could I get a close-in screenshot of Japan and China? I want to see what kind of wars are going on there. Thanks.
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Oct 7, 2011 19:13
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Onwards to Armenia, ever onwards!
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Oct 7, 2011 19:33
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You said that Cherokee had modernized. If so, how did the Creek manage to take so much of their land? How much of India is still Hindu? Does Mughal still have a Hindu minority? What's the light purple country nestled between French Britain, Gascony, and Burgundy? And why on earth hasn't Qurighar conquered Kazakh yet?
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Oct 7, 2011 19:33
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Viola the Mad posted:You said that Cherokee had modernized. If so, how did the Creek manage to take so much of their land? Creek took that land before Cherokee modernized. The only Muslim state in India is Mughals, so all of it except the Mughal bits. Mughals still have a significant Hindu minority. Anjou. EU3 AI. 
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Oct 7, 2011 19:35
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Here are close-ups of China and Japan + some bonus shots of New World. Don't mind "Nya Skåne", it was named before I added some better names for Norwegian colonies. Already renamed it in the save. Wiz fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Oct 7, 2011 |
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Oct 7, 2011 19:45
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Wiz posted:Here are close-ups of China and Japan + some bonus shots of New World. Awesome, thanks.
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Oct 7, 2011 19:49
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sniper4625 posted:Onwards to Armenia, ever onwards! Stop changing your vote! You'll break the new counting spreadsheet! Rememeber: The spreadsheet warranty is void if exposed to water, affected by acts of God or Gods, abnormal conditions. Abuse, fire, flood, misuse, negligence, modification, corrosive environments and vandalism also void the warranty.
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Magrov posted:Stop changing your vote! You'll break the new counting spreadsheet! Rememeber: The spreadsheet warranty is void if exposed to water, affected by acts of God or Gods, abnormal conditions. Abuse, fire, flood, misuse, negligence, modification, corrosive environments and vandalism also void the warranty. Just testing the new icon hosting. Everything works great!
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Oct 7, 2011 20:03
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Is Armenian in our cultural group and how does cultural/religious conversion work and how long will it take due to our tolerant nature?
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Oct 7, 2011 20:09
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Rejected Fate posted:Is Armenian in our cultural group and how does cultural/religious conversion work and how long will it take due to our tolerant nature? No, they're in the Byzantine group. Culture conversion will be incredibly slow because of our tolerant NIs, I doubt we'll convert more than a province or two max unless we use settlement policies. Religious conversion doesn't happen on its own and we can't use missionaries because we're too innovative to get any. On the other hand, if we get Ecumenism and LEF and a conmon, there won't really be a point to converting anyone. vv Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Culture conversion is basically not gonna happen unless we settlement policy then.
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Rejected Fate posted:Is Armenian in our cultural group and how does cultural/religious conversion work and how long will it take due to our tolerant nature? Armenian is in the Byzantine Group with Greek and Georgian. There is no cultural conversion for wrong religion provinces and we can't convert people because we have no missionaries for being on the Innovative side of the Innovative-Narrowminded scale EDIT: But all of this depends on Wiz not changing vanilla mechanics, which he did.
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Culture conversion is largely the same as vanilla, only slower and the superfast melting pots are not so superfast.
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Oct 7, 2011 20:25
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Can you post a diplomatic map of Ikko Ikki and Date? I'm interested in who's most likely to form Japan.
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Jeoh posted:Can you post a diplomatic map of Ikko Ikki and Date? I'm interested in who's most likely to form Japan. They're both just allied with a couple OPMs each.
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Oct 7, 2011 20:28
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Nice to see that we're guaranteeing Quirghar. If Russia and Quirgahr ever get into a war you know what side you're supposed to enter in on.  Also hoping the Cherokee last on until Victoria and forever. And that they develop a Shia Mormon religion in Victoria 2
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NihilCredo posted:Mali is richer and has higher Trade Efficiency than Mega-Netherlands? Mega? The LP's timeline features the Netherlands as it should have been rather than the two rump states with arbitrary borders that we have today.
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Oct 7, 2011 21:30
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I dunno about the Holland-Dutch names for colonies, the Netherlands in this LP did form out of Flanders, which has the same language but a different use of words. On the other hand, Flanders/Belgium never really colonized outside of Belgian Congo, so coming up with names would be pretty hard.
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Oct 7, 2011 21:31
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Proposition Joe posted:Nice to see that we're guaranteeing Quirghar. If Russia and Quirgahr ever get into a war you know what side you're supposed to enter in on. Actually they're guaranteeing us.
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Oct 7, 2011 21:35
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nimby posted:I dunno about the Holland-Dutch names for colonies, the Netherlands in this LP did form out of Flanders, which has the same language but a different use of words. I'm not gonna add a whole set of new colony names for Flemish. If you want to do it, by all means.
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nimby posted:I dunno about the Holland-Dutch names for colonies, the Netherlands in this LP did form out of Flanders, which has the same language but a different use of words. I think some people are approaching this rather anachronistically. Flanders refers strictly and exclusively to the actual county of Flanders in this timeline, since the rift between the Southern and the Northern Netherlands never occurred. While West-Flemish colony names could potentially be hilarious, we should just use general Dutch nomenclature with perhaps a focus on Flemish place names such as Bruges and Ghent.
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e: never mind. Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing how the colonization ends up in India and beyond. Kainser fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Oct 7, 2011 |
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Oct 7, 2011 21:56
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Wiz posted:Actually they're guaranteeing us. Well we should guarantee Quirghar, not only because Quirghar owns but also because Russia is guaranteeing Armenia.
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Oct 7, 2011 22:01
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Wiz posted:I'm not gonna add a whole set of new colony names for Flemish. If you want to do it, by all means. Meh, knowing us Flemish/Belgians it'd all just be "Nieuw-Vlaanderen" and "Vlaamsch Amerika". Phlegmish, there's going to be some divide at least, Flanders was independent for a few centuries and fought/conquered the other Dutch nations. There's even a similar religious divide (although it's not christian/protestant). Anyway, I'm terrible at alt-history and will let you guys get on with the show 
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Oct 7, 2011 22:04
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Kainser posted:e: never mind. I'm hoping at the very least the Mughals are able to stand against any colonialists in their areas, although I've no idea how Indian nations fare in colonialism in Paradox game or if Wizmod will give them a better chance. I wonder how the Mughal sliders are, though. From what little I know of the Mughals OTL the impression I get is that they were a pretty brutal regime. What do their sliders indicate about this timeline's Mughals?
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Proposition Joe posted:Well we should guarantee Quirghar, not only because Quirghar owns but also because Russia is guaranteeing Armenia. e; nimby posted:Phlegmish, there's going to be some divide at least, Flanders was independent for a few centuries and fought/conquered the other Dutch nations. There's even a similar religious divide (although it's not christian/protestant). Anyway, I'm terrible at alt-history and will let you guys get on with the show
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What are the conditions for forming France and how far is Burgundy from fulfilling them? And will they get cores on Gascony and Brittany? Could you post the tech levels of the major players? The screenshot in the update is just full of the usual European OPMs.
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Oct 7, 2011 22:13
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nimby posted:Phlegmish, there's going to be some divide at least, Flanders was independent for a few centuries and fought/conquered the other Dutch nations. There's even a similar religious divide (although it's not christian/protestant). I think in real life it was actually Brabant rather than Flanders that was dominant both economically and lingustically at this point in history. There is no reason for Holland, on the other hand, to ever develop beyond the relative backwater that it was during the Middle Ages. In any case, though it might not make much sense, I don't think anyone will be mortally offended if this LP's Netherlands is inspired by today's Northern Netherlands for simplicity's sake. It's just fun to sperge about.
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Rejected Fate posted:I wonder how the Mughal sliders are, though. From what little I know of the Mughals OTL the impression I get is that they were a pretty brutal regime. What do their sliders indicate about this timeline's Mughals? The IRL Mughals were actually pretty remarkably tolerant of Hinduism (especially compared to previous Islamic states in India), but they were also highly militaristic. So...you can go either way there.
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Oct 7, 2011 22:19
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Kainser posted:Yeah, there will definitely still be a south/north divide due to various reasons. Other than Dutch/Low Franconian being almost a minority language above the Moerdijk, I don't see why that would be the case.
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Oct 7, 2011 22:22
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Phlegmish posted:Other than Dutch/Low Franconian being almost a minority language above the Moerdijk, I don't see why that would be the case.
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Oct 7, 2011 22:29
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I really want to see us move back towards forming Arabia. Our unique religion has not been as big of a role in EU3, and it is just a shame.
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Oct 7, 2011 22:30
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Phlegmish posted:I think in real life it was actually Brabant rather than Flanders that was dominant both economically and lingustically at this point in history. There is no reason for Holland, on the other hand, to ever develop beyond the relative backwater that it was during the Middle Ages. If anyone IS mortally offended by it, they can make a colony name file for Flemish and I will include it in WizMOD. I'm not gonna do it myself though.
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Snipee posted:I really want to see us move back towards forming Arabia. Our unique religion has not been as big of a role in EU3, and it is just a shame. We aren't Arabic, how would that make sense?
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Oct 7, 2011 22:35
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Kainser posted:The obvious religious divide and the fact that most trade and capital flows through the recently conquered Friesland. Today's religious divide is nothing more than the result of the outcome of the Eighty Years' War. Flanders and Brabant (particularly Antwerp) were hotbeds of Protestantism, first Lutheranism and later Calvinism. In fact, the Iconoclastic Fury (Beeldenstorm) in which churches were sacked and Catholic imagery destroyed started in Steenvoorde, which is in modern-day French Flanders, and spread throughout the rest of the Netherlands from there.  On the other hand, it is true that in the Dutch Republic Noord-Brabant and Nederlands-Limburg remained principally Catholic. I wonder how that came to be.
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Phlegmish posted:On the other hand, it is true that in the Dutch Republic Noord-Brabant and Nederlands-Limburg remained principally Catholic. I wonder how that came to be. No they're animist, Africa starts beneath the Rhine.
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Oct 7, 2011 23:08
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Let's see, our current ruler is a military minded leader, with no wars to fight... Maybe we can try and restore Azerbaijan to its past glory by conquering/owning Syria once more! 
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Oct 7, 2011 23:19
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Looks like Korea's gotten itself involved with that mess in China. It's fought in an alliance of kingdoms against Zhen. I don't think that's gonna go well for them.
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I'd like to see the Dutch spread out across Europe, especially considering how weak France is right now, become a powerful European power.
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