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So I was re-reading through the LP and made this family tree/summary of Azeri rulers, their wars, reigns and deaths, etc: http://i.imgur.com/ScAa4.gif  NWS is because it's pretty huge in size.Probably riddled with spelling errors but... 21 rulers, of which one in three died of natural causes...pretty good for Paradox games, I think. EDIT: Fixed some of the most blatant errors I picked up... DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Oct 11, 2011 |
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Oct 11, 2011 17:24
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DarkCrawler posted:So I was re-reading through the LP and made this family tree/summary of Azeri rulers, their wars, reigns and deaths, etc: This is pretty objectively awesome. Great work!
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Oct 11, 2011 17:27
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Thanks, I was thinking of updating it as the thread goes on.  Also objectively awesome: Anyone named Ertan.
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Oct 11, 2011 17:29
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Holy crap that is awesome. Definitely update it as the thread goes on.
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Oct 11, 2011 17:31
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That's amazing; how'd you manage to do that?
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Oct 11, 2011 17:31
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Adobe Photoshop, spare time and the awesome detail Wiz goes into in his narrative. 
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Oct 11, 2011 17:35
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Haha, that Swedish colony is so utterly useless. I hope it remains in Swedish hands though, it'll make for an even stranger colonial revolution wave and perhaps an interesting war or two between Sweden and Netherlands/Norway. Oh, and this: DarkCrawler posted:So I was re-reading through the LP and made this family tree/summary of Azeri rulers, their wars, reigns and deaths, etc: is awesome.
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Oct 11, 2011 17:41
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Sockerbagarn posted:You're overestimating the value of Norways territories, they're all too far north both in Europe and America and won't produce any good trade goods, unless you really like fish. Espanya, Italy, Burgundy and Great Britain will still be dominating. Some of the Canadian colonies are fur and the Netherlands should be pretty goddamn rich with their CoT and all those juicy cloth/iron provinces in their homeland. With the Norse provinces they should get a nice manpower and force limit boost.
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Oct 11, 2011 18:00
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Kavak posted:Definitely update it as the thread goes on.
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Oct 11, 2011 18:04
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DarkCrawler posted:http://i.imgur.com/Da3GQ.gif This is amazing sir, great stuff. Might i just suggest a black border on the red font? It gets hard to read when you get to Aram I and Rafiq I. Also, seconding the wish for it to be updated.
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Oct 11, 2011 18:11
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DarkCrawler posted:So I was re-reading through the LP and made this family tree/summary of Azeri rulers, their wars, reigns and deaths, etc: This is sweet as hell. Adding to OP.
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Oct 11, 2011 18:15
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Kavak posted:Are the Kurds Sunni or Shiite? Shiite.
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Oct 11, 2011 18:16
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DarkCrawler posted:So I was re-reading through the LP and made this family tree/summary of Azeri rulers, their wars, reigns and deaths, etc: This is awesome. You're awesome.
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Oct 11, 2011 18:17
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oh what the hell did Norway go and lose their royal independence again I swear, my country never does anything interesting, even in these LPs. Always getting conquered or becoming vassals or something. Frustrating, is what it is!
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Oct 11, 2011 18:18
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V. Illych L. posted:oh what the hell did Norway go and lose their royal independence again Colonizing Canada is pretty interesting  edit: even if the perfidious Swedes went and  d the last portion of it.
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Oct 11, 2011 18:23
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V. Illych L. posted:oh what the hell did Norway go and lose their royal independence again I'm just sad they didn't get into a PU under Samiland. Imagine, a Sami colonial empire with the Arctic Sea as its pond.
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Oct 11, 2011 18:24
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Wiz posted:This is sweet as hell. Adding to OP. Woot!  And yeah, I might have to make bigger changes to the fonts and so on later because I do notice that stuff is hard to read where the "scroll" turns darker.
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Oct 11, 2011 18:33
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...I kind of hope we get into a war with Russia. We can lose those Crimean provinces. Kurdistan also causes slightly sloppy borders but less so. Who's that light green nation at the bottom of India? Seems to be doing well. Ethiopia seems to be driving back Egypt. Zhen and Nan Han are the clear two rising stars of China. Also on that map of the religions on India, that's really weird. Sikhism seems to have spread like wild fire especially in comparison to our time line. I suppose Mysore will get a Sikh majority and some fairly heavy but still not in the majority Sikh minorities in some of the rest of the subcontinent? The family tree is also great. May Sultan Muhammad the Incompetent be the worst of our rulers.
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Oct 11, 2011 18:33
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Edit: Just being incompetent, nothing to see here.
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Oct 11, 2011 18:34
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Rejected Fate posted:Who's that light green nation at the bottom of India? Seems to be doing well. That's Madurai. Yeah I made Sikh spread too fast. Already tweaked it.
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Oct 11, 2011 18:39
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DarkCrawler posted:Woot! By the way, Muhammad died in 1567.
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Oct 11, 2011 18:51
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Wiz posted:By the way, Muhammad died in 1567. Yeah, noting some discrepancies in years too...and the latest Nasir is obviously Nasir II. Latest fixed version: http://i.imgur.com/aQjxR.gif
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Oct 11, 2011 18:56
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is that the norwegians in munster? poor ireland, ruled by two different colonial masters
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Oct 11, 2011 19:36
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Huh, just notice Syria's further expanded into Arabia, taking provinces off Medina. Do they get any drawbacks for taking holy cities by force, or any benefits? Also how many more provinces do they need to form Arabia?
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Oct 11, 2011 19:44
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oystertoadfish posted:is that the norwegians in munster? poor ireland, ruled by two different colonial masters I'm pretty sure that's Munster in Munster. Rejected Fate posted:Huh, just notice Syria's further expanded into Arabia, taking provinces off Medina. Do they get any drawbacks for taking holy cities by force, or any benefits? If you hold both Medina and Mecca you get a bonus and can also declare yourself Caliph if you're a major or great power. Only bedouin arabic countries can form Arabia as it stands right now. Not sure if Syria forming Arabia really makes sense.
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Oct 11, 2011 19:48
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Wiz posted:I'm pretty sure that's Munster in Munster. My understanding of Shia Islam isn't that great, but wouldn't a Shiite claiming the title of Caliph be heretical?
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Oct 11, 2011 19:56
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Pakled posted:My understanding of Shia Islam isn't that great, but wouldn't a Shiite claiming the title of Caliph be heretical? My understand of Shia Islam is not good enough to answer this either. Anyone who knows their stuff, would it make sense for a Shiite to claim to be Caliph? If not I can limit it to Sunnis. Wiz fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Oct 11, 2011 |
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Oct 11, 2011 19:58
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Pakled posted:My understanding of Shia Islam isn't that great, but wouldn't a Shiite claiming the title of Caliph be heretical? Probably, but with the 12th Imam in occulation, all the Syrian caliph has to do is take a page from the Safavid dynasty and just claim that the 12th Imam is guiding him and his dynasty. I'd say keep the Caliph modifier if it is being used to represent a Muslim power having the religious authority and power; let the religious scholars do the rationalization of why this Twelever is Caliph now. Servant fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Oct 11, 2011 |
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Oct 11, 2011 19:59
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Being Shia didn't stop the Fatimids.
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Oct 11, 2011 20:22
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Wiz posted:If you hold both Medina and Mecca you get a bonus and can also declare yourself Caliph if you're a major or great power. I thought Syria identified itself as an Arab state? That might just be a modern day thing but that's the impression I've always got. I'm guessing they have a different cultural group to the rest of Arabia, though.
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Oct 11, 2011 20:28
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I thought it'd be nice if the Dutch Empire got a fancy new flag, so I made this:  The lion now has an axe and a crown to reflect the PU with Norway. If you don't want to use it Wiz, that's okay with me.
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Oct 11, 2011 20:30
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Rejected Fate posted:I thought Syria identified itself as an Arab state? That might just be a modern day thing but that's the impression I've always got. I'm guessing they have a different cultural group to the rest of Arabia, though. Oh they're definitely an Arab state, I just don't know whether being Shah of Arabia (the peninsula) would actually be more prestigious than being the Shah of Syria though.
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Oct 11, 2011 20:36
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MadPierrot posted:I thought it'd be nice if the Dutch Empire got a fancy new flag, so I made this: I'm not gonna change flags in EU3 based on stuff that only happens in this playthrough, but if say the dutch-norwegian empire exists in Vicky, I'll put it to use. Saving it for now.
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Oct 11, 2011 20:37
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Wiz posted:Oh they're definitely an Arab state, I just don't know whether being Shah of Arabia (the peninsula) would actually be more prestigious than being the Shah of Syria though.  Anyway, chances are that the Norway/Netherlands personal union will be dissolved in a century or so anyway. But the advent of nationalism in the 1800's (or whenever it'll happen in the LP) will have an interesting effect on it if it does last that long.
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Oct 11, 2011 20:40
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I figured that it wouldn't last so I didn't expect the flag to get used, but I thought I'd at least give it a try. We actually might need to get the iconography for the Dutch straight, because the red lion we're using now is the symbol for Holland, and IIRC Flanders was the nation to form the Netherlands. No House of Orange so far means no Lion of Nassau though, so at least there's that point of divergence!
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Oct 11, 2011 20:44
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Is that the Royal Lion Rampant dual-wielding an axe and a sword? Because that is some serious business. Might want to make it yellow, though. Norway's lion is definitely yellow, and I *think* that the Dutch counterpart is, as well. e. Flanders has a sable lion, according to wikipedia.
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Oct 11, 2011 20:46
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The House of Orange-Nassau's lion (usage as a Dutch emblem dates to William of Orange, who has yet to appear) is gold; Holland's is scarlet, and the lion of Flanders is black.
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Oct 11, 2011 20:47
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Wiz posted:Oh they're definitely an Arab state, I just don't know whether being Shah of Arabia (the peninsula) would actually be more prestigious than being the Shah of Syria though. I would have thought it would be, although I'm not versed in such matters. Being the land of the two holiest cities of the land and a term already brought to land Syria is part of, I don't think any distinction between the northern part of the peninsula and the southern part being Arabia or not had occurred yet, I think that happened at a later date. Syria is connotative of only Jerusalem, after all. While a holy city of Islam, it's not the same stature of Medina and Mecca, which Arabia has the connotations of. It also signifies a unification of the Arab people. Then again Caliph might be enough of a title to represent their stature in the Islamic world than having their land title change as well.
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Oct 11, 2011 20:51
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MadPierrot posted:I figured that it wouldn't last so I didn't expect the flag to get used, but I thought I'd at least give it a try. We actually might need to get the iconography for the Dutch straight, because the red lion we're using now is the symbol for Holland, and IIRC Flanders was the nation to form the Netherlands. No House of Orange so far means no Lion of Nassau though, so at least there's that point of divergence! Agreed. Also glad I'm not the only one who would actually sperge about this.
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Oct 11, 2011 20:55
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MadPierrot posted:I figured that it wouldn't last so I didn't expect the flag to get used, but I thought I'd at least give it a try. We actually might need to get the iconography for the Dutch straight, because the red lion we're using now is the symbol for Holland, and IIRC Flanders was the nation to form the Netherlands. No House of Orange so far means no Lion of Nassau though, so at least there's that point of divergence! Holland can form Netherlands just as well as Flanders though, as can Brabant or Frisia, so I don't think it's time to talk about a flag change until Victoria 2.
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