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LLCoolJD
Dec 8, 2007

Musk threatens the inorganic promotion of left-wing ideology that had been taking place on the platform

Block me for being an unironic DeSantis fan, too!

MrL_JaKiri posted:

Running north to Vegas directly with my new character has been great fun. But not the usual "Stealth boy up past the deathclaws on the main road", way. I did it by grabbing all the dynamite I could find and running up the side road to the far west that takes you through Cazadors and then fiend territory. I've just arrived at McCarran chased by a dozen fiends (although I killed Violet with dynamite, and killed Nephi with a pool cue after using the last of my supply of dynamite on his goons*) and managed to get all the NCR outside slaughtered, although I managed to finish off the fiends with the guns they dropped, somehow (bullets went in essentially random directions because both my arms (and my head, chest and legs...) are crippled).

And now, Vegas baby!

I just started a melee/unarmed Legion character, and I did the same thing. Except I hugged the western edge of Black Mountain in order to avoid being killed by Deathclaws. No stealthboy required. Once I reached RepConn HQ, it was smooth sailing. In Freeside, I got up to 2000 caps by gambling in the Wrangler.

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MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!
Who needs caps when you can take some NCR armour off guys killed by fiends and sneak onto the monorail?

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
On my first playthrough I never paid much attention to the value of items and I don't think I broke 4000 caps by the end of it.

On my second playthrough, I have over 35,000 :psyduck:

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!
Last playthrough, I came out of Dead Money with over 200,000 caps worth of stuff.

Samopsa
Nov 9, 2009

Krijgt geen speciaal kerstdiner!
Dead Money is literally a gift that keeps giving. Like 50 weapon repair kits every 3 days or something? You can just buy poo poo from vendors and sell it back fully repaired to get loads and loads of caps.

gwar3k1
Jan 10, 2005

Someday soon
I've had nothing to do all weekend, so I thought I'd start New Vegas... I've sunk an embarrassing amount of time into it already and I haven't even got to The Strip. I somehow feel like I should clean up the wasteland before following my own quest - part conditioning of FO3, part conditioning from RPGs, and part for the sheer fact that I can.

So far I'm liking this a whole lot more than FO3, possibly because it feels like there's more to do in the wasteland, and I'm being pushed to gain levels - though I don't like I'm being forced into speech/barter so much.

I've got respect with the NCR and I have their armour. When I played through the Helios stuff, NCR people recognised I was friendly but when I go to outposts all I get is "are you lost" or "civilians aren't allowed here;" is that just what happens?

And am I a jerk for giving power to the NCR place and the Strip rather than [spoilers]everyone[/spoilers]? My reasoning was that while morally I would have done the latter if I were a better person, in actuality, I want to see Vegas lit up when I get there. I guess the alternative could be creepy?

gwar3k1 fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Oct 23, 2011

Deep Thoreau
Aug 16, 2008

I don't have Dead Money, and I still make loads of caps. You can make 40k easy just by breaking the bank at all the casinos.

Cousin Todd
Jul 3, 2007
Grimey Drawer
I had close to a million caps farming for nails in LR by repairing marked men armor and selling stacks of it to vending machines.

AlmightyBob
Sep 8, 2003

Facebook: Fallout Edition


LLCoolJD
Dec 8, 2007

Musk threatens the inorganic promotion of left-wing ideology that had been taking place on the platform

Block me for being an unironic DeSantis fan, too!

gwar3k1 posted:

And am I a jerk for giving power to the NCR place and the Strip rather than [spoilers]everyone[/spoilers]? My reasoning was that while morally I would have done the latter if I were a better person, in actuality, I want to see Vegas lit up when I get there. I guess the alternative could be creepy?

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Euclid%27s_C-Finder



MrL_JaKiri posted:

Who needs caps when you can take some NCR armour off guys killed by fiends and sneak onto the monorail?

Good idea; my guy will join the Legion so I've kept a nice set of NCR armor for use as a future disguise. Never thought about going in through the monorail, though.

AlmightyBob
Sep 8, 2003

LLCoolJD posted:

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Euclid%27s_C-Finder


Good idea; my guy will join the Legion so I've kept a nice set of NCR armor for use as a future disguise. Never thought about going in through the monorail, though.

Oh goddamit I was wondering where you got ammo for that and now I'll never get to use it :( I paid that kid 1000 caps for it

Hexenritter
May 20, 2001


AlmightyBob posted:

Oh goddamit I was wondering where you got ammo for that and now I'll never get to use it :( I paid that kid 1000 caps for it

Me too. I didn't even know about this. I love how I'm still finding new stuff in this game. :love: Obsidian.

Sam.
Jan 1, 2009

"I thought we had something, Shepard. Something real."
:qq:
Euclid's C-Finder is the best way to assassinate President Kimball.

Cousin Todd
Jul 3, 2007
Grimey Drawer

Sam. posted:

Euclid's C-Finder is the best way to assassinate President Kimball.

The best way is to uppercut his head clean off, then eat him while security watches on impotently.

Cousin Todd
Jul 3, 2007
Grimey Drawer
I miss my ROck-it-Launcher so much... I may just have to fire up fallout 3 and finish the pitt and whatever the one with the boat was...

TheHoosier
Dec 30, 2004

The fuck, Graham?!

While Explosives are a blast to play, especially when carpet bombing Forlorn Hope with Mercy from atop a cliff, i'm starting to enjoy running around with Knock-Knock more.

Something awesome about running into the NCR Embassy and lopping everyone's head off :black101:

I'm doing a pro-Legion playthrough and I feel... lost. Im level 19 and already being asked to do the Dam. I keep butchering NCR and failing quests. Not sure what I should do, all the quests are good guy quests. :( So I guess i'll just wander the wastes, chopping up NCR and Cazadore alike.

TheHoosier fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Oct 24, 2011

CommanderCoffee
Feb 27, 2011

Ladies.
I walked into the Followers Safehouse to collect my DC Journal of Internal Medicine (I was at 96, wanted to be at 100), and as I walk in, a Legionary Assassin Team walked out.

So the Followers of the Apocalypse are hiding enemies of the state. :tinfoil:

Proletarian Mango
May 21, 2011

170+ hours into New Vegas and I just found out that you can join the Follower's and that they have their own safehouse. This game :stare:

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Upmarket Mango posted:

170+ hours into New Vegas and I just found out that you can join the Follower's and that they have their own safehouse. This game :stare:

Yeah, I just found this out the other day myself, mostly by randomly finding the safehouse while out exploring.

It's pretty nice, too. So now I have access to the BoS's, the NCR's and the Follower's... Haven't had a chance to check out the legion's, gonna do that on my next playthrough.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
I'm pretty sure it's possible to get every safehouse on the same playthrough, gonna try to do that next run.

Lewd Mangabey
Jun 2, 2011
"What sort of ape?" asked Stephen.
"A damned ill-conditioned sort of an ape. It had a can of ale at every pot-house on the road, and is reeling drunk. It has been offering itself to Babbington."
So, I'm a long-time RPG player who loved FO and FO2, thought Morrowind was kind of neat but had a terrible plot, thought Oblivion was a major disappointment of a game with terrible NPCs and a retarded leveling/scaling system, and generally is happy to look past Obsidian's shortcomings and enjoy their games.

I've hesitated on getting FONV because I tried several times to enjoy FO3 and just couldn't get into it. The FO3 levels and NPCs looked artificial, and I felt like I was playing a bad shooter instead of a Fallout game.

I know NV gets great reviews for its plot, but I've just consistently not enjoyed every one of Bethesda's games, mostly because of their game engines. Any suggestions from people who might have felt likewise as to whether I'll be able to enjoy an Obsidian game dressed up in a Bethesda engine?

Cousin Todd
Jul 3, 2007
Grimey Drawer
I never got the safehouses... It's a loving shack in the middle of nowhere. I could never think of any reason to use them.

Sam.
Jan 1, 2009

"I thought we had something, Shepard. Something real."
:qq:

Exploding Poptart posted:

So, I'm a long-time RPG player who loved FO and FO2, thought Morrowind was kind of neat but had a terrible plot, thought Oblivion was a major disappointment of a game with terrible NPCs and a retarded leveling/scaling system, and generally is happy to look past Obsidian's shortcomings and enjoy their games.

I've hesitated on getting FONV because I tried several times to enjoy FO3 and just couldn't get into it. The FO3 levels and NPCs looked artificial, and I felt like I was playing a bad shooter instead of a Fallout game.

I know NV gets great reviews for its plot, but I've just consistently not enjoyed every one of Bethesda's games, mostly because of their game engines. Any suggestions from people who might have felt likewise as to whether I'll be able to enjoy an Obsidian game dressed up in a Bethesda engine?

Other then the crashes, New Vegas is an amazing game.

ClearAirTurbulence
Apr 20, 2010
The earth has music for those who listen.
I've been doing a gimmick playthrough on my last game - I made a 10 strength retard that only puts points into Melee and Sneak, made him as ugly as the character creator allowed, and named him Jason Voorhees. I've been following the standard path to the Strip (aside from a detour into Lonesome Road to get some Marked Men armor and a bowie knife) murdering nearly every person I meet, with two exceptions - I spared No-Bark and Hadrian. I didn't have any difficulty until I got to Camp Golf, and for the first time I had to back off and let some people survive, as the rangers were too strong for me at the time (level 9). I also had to settle for killing the doorman at the Silver Rush then hiding, because I can't take on all of the guards at once, yet.

It's pretty interesting how little experience you get from killing, compared to completing quests. I just hit level 10 after making it onto the Strip. Normally I'm up around 13 or 14 by the time I get to the Strip. Another interesting thing, possible a bug, is that Marked Men armor makes NCR, Legion, and Powder Gangers not hostile, which has made murdering everybody at the Mojave Outpost pretty easy.

Node
May 20, 2001

KICKED IN THE COOTER
:dings:
Taco Defender

Kharmakazy posted:

I never got the safehouses... It's a loving shack in the middle of nowhere. I could never think of any reason to use them.

The only good thing about any of the safehouses are the Lucky Shades.

Tubgirl Cosplay
Jan 10, 2011

by Ion Helmet

Exploding Poptart posted:

So, I'm a long-time RPG player who loved FO and FO2, thought Morrowind was kind of neat but had a terrible plot, thought Oblivion was a major disappointment of a game with terrible NPCs and a retarded leveling/scaling system, and generally is happy to look past Obsidian's shortcomings and enjoy their games.

I've hesitated on getting FONV because I tried several times to enjoy FO3 and just couldn't get into it. The FO3 levels and NPCs looked artificial, and I felt like I was playing a bad shooter instead of a Fallout game.

I know NV gets great reviews for its plot, but I've just consistently not enjoyed every one of Bethesda's games, mostly because of their game engines. Any suggestions from people who might have felt likewise as to whether I'll be able to enjoy an Obsidian game dressed up in a Bethesda engine?

I thought Oblivion and FO3 were shithouse. Couldn't even get through 'em. New Vegas is a great game.

Berk Berkly
Apr 9, 2009

by zen death robot

Tubgirl Cosplay posted:

I thought Oblivion and FO3 were shithouse. Couldn't even get through 'em. New Vegas is a great game.

I have to echo the sentiment. I was very disappointed in both of them. I gave them a long time to change my mind, modded them to hell and back but it wasn't quite enough to scratch the itch.

New Vegas, while not a perfect game, did hit the spot from day one. The DLC has been a delightfully good show. The only real problem in my opinion have been the limitations of the engine.

Berk Berkly fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Oct 24, 2011

LLCoolJD
Dec 8, 2007

Musk threatens the inorganic promotion of left-wing ideology that had been taking place on the platform

Block me for being an unironic DeSantis fan, too!

Kharmakazy posted:

I never got the safehouses... It's a loving shack in the middle of nowhere. I could never think of any reason to use them.

When I used the Brotherhood of Steel safehouse after wiping out the bunker, one of the paladins appeared and tried to kill me. It was pretty amusing. Otherwise, I agree. It seems like more of a role-playing feature, since I tend to just fast travel to town rather than limp into a safe house to recover.

Bob Socko
Feb 20, 2001

I figured the safehouses were a little more useful when you're on a hardcore run - safe place to sleep, plus food and water.

Cousin Todd
Jul 3, 2007
Grimey Drawer

LLCoolJD posted:

When I used the Brotherhood of Steel safehouse after wiping out the bunker, one of the paladins appeared and tried to kill me. It was pretty amusing. Otherwise, I agree. It seems like more of a role-playing feature, since I tend to just fast travel to town rather than limp into a safe house to recover.

After I did that (hacked the computer boom) veronica was still my friend... and BOS initiates would still run up to me and offer ammo. I disabled the rubble wall to find they were doing just fine down there.

LLCoolJD
Dec 8, 2007

Musk threatens the inorganic promotion of left-wing ideology that had been taking place on the platform

Block me for being an unironic DeSantis fan, too!

Kharmakazy posted:

After I did that (hacked the computer boom) veronica was still my friend... and BOS initiates would still run up to me and offer ammo. I disabled the rubble wall to find they were doing just fine down there.

They must've seen me hack the computer when I set the bunker to blow, because it was a running gunfight as I high-tailed it out of there. I had to finish off a few survivors who followed me out of the bunker. Somehow I was still able to finish the game with the top positive karma rating. Veronica was my pal, too. Strange huh.

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."
The safehouses own, because the majority of them are one fast travel and then a loading screen away, whereas the Lucky 38 takes forever in that you have to fast travel to Freeside's Strip entrance, enter the Strip, enter the Lucky 38, then take the elevator to your suite. That, and most of them have neat little touches. I like the shelves they have to display stuff :3:

I have no idea why they're all located a hundred feet from a random group of monsters (cazadores, deathclaws, reaver ghouls, deathclaws again) though. And the Sink trumps them all completely. But still!

Doug Lombardi
Jan 18, 2005
All the safehouses have an NPC that visits and repairs stuff at a high level too.

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

Doug Lombardi posted:

All the safehouses have an NPC that visits and repairs stuff at a high level too.

Actually, I think only the BoS has this. The follower gives you stims and restocks the fridge, the NCR ranger some ammo, and the Legion dude randomly gives you skill magazines and stealth boys (once again, Legion is the best).

reagan
Apr 29, 2008

by Lowtax
I loving can't believe that the only way to get the lucky shades is the Legion safehouse.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


HoveringCheesecake posted:

I loving can't believe that the only way to get the lucky shades is the Legion safehouse.

I guess if you're NCR...

... you're out of luck.

YYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

Xik
Mar 10, 2011

Dinosaur Gum

LLCoolJD posted:

Good idea; my guy will join the Legion so I've kept a nice set of NCR armor for use as a future disguise.

That's an entire part of the game I've never been able to play. Can't use any kind of faction armor for fear of wiping out all my reputation with every faction. I'm surprised anyone uses them as it's documented in the Wiki that it happens and a google search brings up threads over various boards complaining about it.

In one save file it even got to the point where I was consistently able to reproduce the bug and every time I would remove an NCR piece of gear it would reset all faction reputation.

Not fun.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Grand Fromage posted:

I guess if you're NCR...

... you're out of luck.

YYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

*Puts on Lucky Shades* :smug:

Galewolf
Jan 9, 2007

The human gallbladder is indeed a puzzle!

CitrusFrog posted:

Admittedly I never played Tactics because everyone shat all over it, perhaps I should.

Well it is not a role playing game and certainly not the one people expected after Fallout 3. It is X-Com with rpg elements set in the Fallout universe. I think, for a 10 year old game, it aged gracefully graphical and gameplay-wise compared to original Fallouts. The story is barely there and stops making sense after some point but as i said before in this thread it is not about a lone wanderer trying to survive in the harsh post apocalyptic wasteland but it is more about piling 6 guys in a hummer, setting all AK-47's to full auto and shooting various raiders and critters (super mutants, robots, car sized cockroaches etc.). As the name suggests, it is a Tactical shooter with rpg elements.

I think this lame smiley bandwagon sums your team of six through most of the game:

:ese::jihad::ninja::science::byodood::downsgun:

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Berk Berkly
Apr 9, 2009

by zen death robot

Grand Fromage posted:

I guess if you're NCR...

... you're out of luck.

YYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

Actually, you can just nip dog tags from NCR soldiers and/or help Vulpex with his little terrorizing quest in Nipton for some extra rep.

You only need to get to Liked to get safehouse access from Lucius, and you get a free Reputation reset for NCR when the Ambassador sends you the invitation after the first time you leave the Lucky 38 after meeting House.

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