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HitTheTargets
Mar 3, 2006

I came here to laugh at you.

SynthOrange posted:

What if I've got a 1 END build? :colbert:

Buy the END Implant. :smugbert:

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Cousin Todd
Jul 3, 2007
Grimey Drawer

Cream-of-Plenty posted:

Cirosan Classic Overhaul, specifically the additions to perks and traits.

Bleh. Most of those don't apply to how I play anyhow, and actually seems to nerf some things. Thanks for the effort though mate.

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

This method of getting all the gold from Dead Money worked for me on my first try:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTMbSQwsaV4

I guess you have to have pretty high sneak though.

DogsInSpace!
Sep 11, 2001


Fun Shoe

"Papa, why am I named Dush?"
"A promise is a promise son... now fetch me a new bottle."

Thank you sir.

Astfgl
Aug 31, 2001

FuhrerHat posted:

This method of getting all the gold from Dead Money worked for me on my first try:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTMbSQwsaV4

I guess you have to have pretty high sneak though.

There are two problems with that: More often than not, Elijah will spot you (crouching or no) when you're walking to the exit. As soon as he does, the forcefields fly up and you're screwed. The second is that the door the person takes in this video often gets forcefielded before you can get close to it, regardless of whether or not Elijah sees you.

It also has nothing to do with sneak, as I attempted the same technique in that video with 100 sneak and a stealth-boy and I still got hammered. It seems like sneaking past Elijah with the bars is more the exception than the rule.

Strudel Man
May 19, 2003
ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

Astfgl posted:

The second is that the door the person takes in this video often gets forcefielded before you can get close to it, regardless of whether or not Elijah sees you.

It also has nothing to do with sneak, as I attempted the same technique in that video with 100 sneak and a stealth-boy and I still got hammered. It seems like sneaking past Elijah with the bars is more the exception than the rule.
I tried that a couple times and the forcefield always went up just as I got close. I assumed it was programmed that way.

Astfgl
Aug 31, 2001

Yeah, I tried it many times and it seemed more like it was on some kind of proximity detector or timer.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Yeah the forcefields were always up for me whenever I played, I didn't even realize there was a window of time when they were down.

Doug Lombardi
Jan 18, 2005
As soon as you step on the first step leading out of the room where Elijah comes in the forcefield goes up.

graynull
Dec 2, 2005

Did I misread all the signs?
Both times I have beaten DM, after Elijah is dead the force fields have stayed up and sealed me in. After multiple reloads and attempts, it just seemed to be a bug and I had to noclip my way through them. Made taking the gold much easier, since I already had to console just to live. The bars are more a trophy though, they are sitting scattered on the table in Lombard, as they are a bitch to try and stack.

Cousin Todd
Jul 3, 2007
Grimey Drawer

graynull posted:

Both times I have beaten DM, after Elijah is dead the force fields have stayed up and sealed me in. After multiple reloads and attempts, it just seemed to be a bug and I had to noclip my way through them. Made taking the gold much easier, since I already had to console just to live. The bars are more a trophy though, they are sitting scattered on the table in Lombard, as they are a bitch to try and stack.

If I recall there is a longer alternate path without barriers... ymmv

graynull
Dec 2, 2005

Did I misread all the signs?

Kharmakazy posted:

If I recall there is a longer alternate path without barriers... ymmv

Yeah if I was supposed to run back through all the vault to escape they didn't do a very good job communicating that, either in game or when I looked it up on the wiki later.

I think they even listed a bug that might have aided my misunderstanding

quote:

Sometimes after you kill Elijah the force fields will remain up, trapping the Courier in the vault until the Explosive collar detonates.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
So yeah, does anyone really wish they got a better VA for General Oliver?

eating only apples
Dec 12, 2009

Shall we dance?

SeanBeansShako posted:

So yeah, does anyone really wish they got a better VA for General Oliver?

Me and a friend were just talking about this, how he's noticeably a bit rubbish especially compared to the other big faction heavyweights. On the other hand, you do only meet him very briefly, and are likely to spend more time listening to, say, Hsu or Kimball, who have unique voice actors iirc (well you don't spend much time with Kimball but you get the idea). The dude who does Oliver supposedly does a whole mess of other NCR characters, but his Vault page doesn't even list Oliver, so has there been a mixup there?

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.

eating only apples posted:

Me and a friend were just talking about this, how he's noticeably a bit rubbish especially compared to the other big faction heavyweights. On the other hand, you do only meet him very briefly, and are likely to spend more time listening to, say, Hsu or Kimball, who have unique voice actors iirc (well you don't spend much time with Kimball but you get the idea). The dude who does Oliver supposedly does a whole mess of other NCR characters, but his Vault page doesn't even list Oliver, so has there been a mixup there?

It really does weaken the Mr Houses Champion moment of the game when the dude sounds so bored.

Seriously, I just proved you wrong with words and killer robots man! show some
emotion! rage! something argh!

Ragg
Apr 27, 2003

<The Honorable Badgers>
Is there a good high resolution map for this game with stuff marked, or maybe an interactive map? The one on the wiki would be pretty good if it was a tad bigger, or if the high res version had mouseover labels. Just wondering if there's anything better out there.

Edit: managed to find this, about as good as it gets I suppose. http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/959559-fallout-new-vegas/faqs/62652

Ragg fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Oct 27, 2011

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."

Ragg posted:

Is there a good high resolution map for this game with stuff marked, or maybe an interactive map? The one on the wiki would be pretty good if it was a tad bigger, or if the high res version had mouseover labels. Just wondering if there's anything better out there.

Edit: managed to find this, about as good as it gets I suppose. http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/959559-fallout-new-vegas/faqs/62652

For in-game, Colored's New FNV Worldmap or Shiloh DS Colored Map and Icons.

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

North American Turtle Boy Love Association

So is there like a super quick way to get through Dead Money? I don't really have a convenient save from before I went in for some stupid reason, and unless things really look up after gather the other collars, I don't really think this is my cup of tea in terms of DLC. I just don't really enjoy the whole survival/horror aspect at all.

Cousin Todd
Jul 3, 2007
Grimey Drawer

toadee posted:

So is there like a super quick way to get through Dead Money? I don't really have a convenient save from before I went in for some stupid reason, and unless things really look up after gather the other collars, I don't really think this is my cup of tea in terms of DLC. I just don't really enjoy the whole survival/horror aspect at all.

The end gets kind of finicky if you skip parts of it, but you can just walk to the exit gate console it either unlock or activate if memory serves.

Also, movetoqt will move you right to your current quest objective 90% of the time.

Node
May 20, 2001

KICKED IN THE COOTER
:dings:
Taco Defender

SeanBeansShako posted:

So yeah, does anyone really wish they got a better VA for General Oliver?

Yeah no kidding. I was expecting some guy with a grey mustache and a voice similar to R. Lee Ermey.

Cousin Todd
Jul 3, 2007
Grimey Drawer

Node posted:

Yeah no kidding. I was expecting some guy with a grey mustache and a voice similar to R. Lee Ermey.

He only has like.. 5 lines anyhow before his fall from grace.

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."

toadee posted:

So is there like a super quick way to get through Dead Money? I don't really have a convenient save from before I went in for some stupid reason, and unless things really look up after gather the other collars, I don't really think this is my cup of tea in terms of DLC. I just don't really enjoy the whole survival/horror aspect at all.

It sounds like DM just isn't your thing, but I will say that things pick up once you get into the Casino. Relatively speaking, you're about halfway to that point.

Cousin Todd
Jul 3, 2007
Grimey Drawer
Nah, he just did like, the first quest. It goes downhill from there man. I'm in the camp that didn't like it and the hotel made me want just murder babies.

Easy mode? Console TGM that way your collar exploding does nothing. Unless you just have to see the rest of the story and get some gold bars just console out of there.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.

Kharmakazy posted:

He only has like.. 5 lines anyhow before his fall from grace.

35.7% chance of a unhappy ending for him.

But yeah, when you think Hard Bitten Military General, that VA was not it. Now that is a mod I hope somebody with serious voice acting chops should pull off.

Cousin Todd
Jul 3, 2007
Grimey Drawer

SeanBeansShako posted:

35.7% chance of a unhappy ending for him.

But yeah, when you think Hard Bitten Military General, that VA was not it. Now that is a mod I hope somebody with serious voice acting chops should pull off.

I don't know. I can't remember any backstory about him being any kind of bad rear end, just some bureaucrat. gently caress im.

You know what I want? A mod that lets me use gibbed body parts as weapons... like press a key and throw a head.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.

Kharmakazy posted:

I don't know. I can't remember any backstory about him being any kind of bad rear end, just some bureaucrat. gently caress im.

Pretty sure he was in charge during the first battle?

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

SeanBeansShako posted:

Pretty sure he was in charge during the first battle?

He was, and they were losing until Chief Hanlon pulled some crazy maneuvers that ended up narrowly beating the Legion. House mentions that Oliver's plan this time is to pretty much throwing forces at the Legion until they win, undermining Hanlon's tactical ingenuity.

Cousin Todd
Jul 3, 2007
Grimey Drawer

SeanBeansShako posted:

Pretty sure he was in charge during the first battle?

With a nickname like "Wait and see" he must be pretty tough.

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

North American Turtle Boy Love Association

Kharmakazy posted:

Nah, he just did like, the first quest. It goes downhill from there man. I'm in the camp that didn't like it and the hotel made me want just murder babies.

Easy mode? Console TGM that way your collar exploding does nothing. Unless you just have to see the rest of the story and get some gold bars just console out of there.

Thanks to all, I went a bit farther in and yah, just not my thing. I can see why people would like it though, if you're into that sort of setting it seems well done. Are the rest of the DLC radically different/more traditionally Falloutish?

Cousin Todd
Jul 3, 2007
Grimey Drawer

toadee posted:

Thanks to all, I went a bit farther in and yah, just not my thing. I can see why people would like it though, if you're into that sort of setting it seems well done. Are the rest of the DLC radically different/more traditionally Falloutish?

Yes. HH is open area tribal, OWB is open area funny sci-fi, LR is current apocalyptic with great environments, and GRA is pay THOUSANDS OF CAPS FOR GUNS FOR SOME REASON, also the are pretty sweet guns.

You can leave LR any time you want, but the rest you have to finish first.

Blunt Force Trauma
Mar 16, 2008

No one gives a fuck about shit.
So fuck your shit.
We fuck shit up,
Cause shit's fucked anyway.
Shit is run in to the ground.

I don't wanna think about it,
I just wanna get down.

toadee posted:

Thanks to all, I went a bit farther in and yah, just not my thing. I can see why people would like it though, if you're into that sort of setting it seems well done. Are the rest of the DLC radically different/more traditionally Falloutish?

There's a mod on Nexus which lets you skip Dead Money and get any of the rewards/achievements/etc that you want.

Cousin Todd
Jul 3, 2007
Grimey Drawer

Blunt Force Trauma posted:

There's a mod on Nexus which lets you skip Dead Money and get any of the rewards/achievements/etc that you want.

I think its funny that if you TCL in the vault you can find elijah just standing in a box with no exit.

Berk Berkly
Apr 9, 2009

by zen death robot

Wolfsheim posted:

He was, and they were losing until Chief Hanlon pulled some crazy maneuvers that ended up narrowly beating the Legion. House mentions that Oliver's plan this time is to pretty much throwing forces at the Legion until they win, undermining Hanlon's tactical ingenuity.

Hanlon lured the hyper-aggressive first Legate into Boulder City, picking off command personal with snipers as they retreated back into the laid trap there.

Hanlon didn't have a plan to actually take the initiative and completely defeat the Legion, just punish them for over-extending and then retake Hoover. So Oliver's plan is just as good as any the NCR has. That is, waiting for the Legion to make another move and counter-attack.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.

Kharmakazy posted:

With a nickname like "Wait and see" he must be pretty tough.

Because being patient on when to commit during a battle or war has no merit at all? Actually, it is a pretty much needed skill.

He still was a over inflated Jack rear end who needs a better VA to make his much more satisfying when you correct him into signing that smug treaty.

Axelgear
Oct 13, 2011

If I'm wrong, please don't hesitate to tell me. It happens pretty often and I will try to change my opinion if I'm presented with evidence.
Ironslave and I were idly chatting and it came up whether Ulysses monologued even when there was no-one else around.

So I made this.

Chairman Mao
Apr 24, 2004

The Chinese Communist Party is the core of leadership of the whole Chinese people. Without this core, the cause of socialism cannot be victorious.
Dear diary, saw god today. Turns out his name is Randy. Go figure.

Took his gun.

Astroturf Man
Nov 2, 2006
Falsifying grassroots support since 2006!

Axelgear posted:

Ironslave and I were idly chatting and it came up whether Ulysses monologued even when there was no-one else around.

So I made this.

This is brilliant.

Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax
Recently fired up New Vegas again and WTF Ratslayer? I remember being terrified of the Quarry Junction with gazillion Deathclaws, strolled by and cleaned to whole place in a jiffy @ level 15. I didn't do anything clever or try to stay up in the cliffs or anything, just kept low, picked a target and went *tsup* *tsup* *tsup* aiming a shot or two at the legs while at it. When something got really close up, VATS with That Gun and empty the clip at it's head until it turns Piņata but I hardly needed a sidearm. To my surprise most of the targets just keeled over long before they were in range to charge.

I never figured out the critical multiplier was THAT powerful even against armored critters. Dropping the towering Mother Deathclaw with a sniperified/glorified semi-auto low power rifle designed to kill rodents felt a little wrong.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
^^^^ Well, when you think about it, deathclaws are essentially overgrown varmin.

I misclicked and used That Gun to repair a nail gun. :eng99:

FrozenVent fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Oct 28, 2011

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poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

by R. Guyovich
So PCGamer's UK review of Lonesome Road made me laugh. No online copy yet, so I can't link it, but while I can understand the complaints about linearity there was one snippet that was just....yeah:

quote:

'While [Ulysses] thinks he's an erudite philosopher, he comes across as a pretentious, jabbering bore, obsessed with something that you as the player never actually did, trying to lay down a guilt trip that just feels hollow.'

I think I understand why Dead Money's theme was smashed into the player's face.

:negative:

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