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Good Person
Nov 5, 2007

i can sense it in my feet

coyo7e posted:

Yeah but why/how does it happen? It seems pretty random, it's not as if it always happens the first time you die to a boss, or when you were already out of souls and humanity (once, I dropped 25+ humanity and respawned with 1 humanity, came back and picked them up and had all my poo poo +1 humanity). It's just weird and unpredictable.

I believe you get 1 humanity every time someone recommends one of your messages.

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meat on a Friday
Dec 9, 2010

Every time you kill a normal enemy, you get a small percentage of a humanity. That is why it seems you randomly get humanity.

Brian Fellows
May 29, 2003
I'm Brian Fellows
It only applies to areas where you haven't killed a boss yet. So if you grind enemies in an area where you haven't killed the boss, you're going to pick up plenty of that liquid humanity that disappears when you die. If you grind the same enemies just after you kill the boss, it won't work anymore.

ireladd
Apr 17, 2007

Question: If I'm in the darkwraith covenant and I go into New Game + is my covenant still active or do I have to get to Kaathe again before I can invade?

On PVP,
I love my +5 Lightning Uchigatana. It doesn't do insane amounts of damage from a single slice, but if you have pumped endurance it is fierce. My tactic is to throw a chaos fireball and when the person I've invaded dodges I switch to my sword and rush them with a barrage of swings. They've usually got their shield up and are probably laughing to themselves as I exhaust my stamina bar with each blow, but they fail to notice that the hits they are blocking are still causing their bleed meter to climb until SPLOOOSH! Suddenly a giant chunk of health disappears and they go into panic mode. And with my stamina pumping ring and mask allowing my bar to refill quicker than they anticipate I'm ready to finish them off. Even the most heavily-armored players tend to fall to my blade.

Elysiume
Aug 13, 2009

Alone, she fights.
I'm back to using the Ring of Fog because there are no combat rings to wear. I'm wearing the Hornet Ring, but there are no other good choices I have. I don't want to wear RoFaP, and I'm wearing gear that gets me under 50% without Havel's.

I have fun shooting people with poison arrows before we close the distance.

edit: Cloranthy ring is nice.

Elysiume fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Oct 29, 2011

Edo Animus
Feb 19, 2011

Date tres dies mihi.

waspinator posted:

Desire to LP Dark Souls...

I'd also love to do an LP of Dark Souls, quite a lot actually. I haven't been quite as impressed / obsessed with a game in a long time. In fact, being bereft of a PS3, I actually watched 4 LPs of Demons' Souls - Squint's run, Test-0 (I think) fisticuffs run, WeaponBoy's NG+ run and also a full video walkthrough on Youtube. It was the best game I never actually played!

I wonder if there is a novel way to combine efforts or present different LP styles in January? Multiple threads don't really work, my Darksiders run ended up being poorly timed with another thread that started in between the recording of the first 4 episodes and posting to SA.

That being said, I love watching people play video games and if any one has any Dark Souls videos to post (like that awesome 90 minute speed run or Vergil PvP fighting) then do it!

Dizz
Feb 14, 2010


L :dva: L
I finally caved and bought the game. I never played Demon Souls so this will be completely blind for me. Is there anything I need to take note of before playing other than being disgustingly careful?

nogic
Jul 6, 2002
I'm in NG+ at the Anor Londo boss. I'm SL97. Is this anywhere near the right range to get summoned/summon others for co-op?

waspinator
Oct 18, 2004

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Edo Animus posted:

I'd also love to do an LP of Dark Souls, quite a lot actually. I haven't been quite as impressed / obsessed with a game in a long time. In fact, being bereft of a PS3, I actually watched 4 LPs of Demons' Souls - Squint's run, Test-0 (I think) fisticuffs run, WeaponBoy's NG+ run and also a full video walkthrough on Youtube. It was the best game I never actually played!

I wonder if there is a novel way to combine efforts or present different LP styles in January? Multiple threads don't really work, my Darksiders run ended up being poorly timed with another thread that started in between the recording of the first 4 episodes and posting to SA.

That being said, I love watching people play video games and if any one has any Dark Souls videos to post (like that awesome 90 minute speed run or Vergil PvP fighting) then do it!

You can feel free to watch any of my archives!

https://www.twitch.tv/waspinat0r/videos

big cummers ONLY
Jul 17, 2005

I made a series of bad investments. Tarantula farm. The bottom fell out of the market.

My save file corrupted and I had to restart. I was only SL 45 or so.

I've got my stuff upgraded and I'm ready to fight the Bell Gargoyles when I think I'll try out the multiplayer (I was always Hollow on my first guy). Immediately get invaded by a guy wearing the Fog Ring. Murder him with the Black Knight Sword. Then a white phantom joins me to kill the Bell Gargoyles, and I feel like he's my best friend in the world.

When he zoned in, I twirled the left stick as fast as I could to spin. He immediately did the same.

Love.

The Balance Niggy
May 11, 2001

tane wave

Paineopticon posted:

My save file corrupted and I had to restart. I was only SL 45 or so.

I've got my stuff upgraded and I'm ready to fight the Bell Gargoyles when I think I'll try out the multiplayer (I was always Hollow on my first guy). Immediately get invaded by a guy wearing the Fog Ring. Murder him with the Black Knight Sword. Then a white phantom joins me to kill the Bell Gargoyles, and I feel like he's my best friend in the world.

When he zoned in, I twirled the left stick as fast as I could to spin. He immediately did the same.

Love.
This sounds like a pretty awesome experience

LemonRind
Apr 26, 2010

CEO OF FUNHAVER ENTERPRISES
Ask me about making YOUR thread suck less!

Dizz posted:

I finally caved and bought the game. I never played Demon Souls so this will be completely blind for me. Is there anything I need to take note of before playing other than being disgustingly careful?

Every treasure chest is your friend.

Schwartzcough
Aug 12, 2009

Don't tease the Octopus, kids!

Dizz posted:

I finally caved and bought the game. I never played Demon Souls so this will be completely blind for me. Is there anything I need to take note of before playing other than being disgustingly careful?

Don't take the Tiny Beings Ring as your gift; Master Key is probably your best bet. The attack buttons are on the shoulders of the controller, so be very careful (especially with the PS3) when setting controllers down around peaceful NPCs- you do NOT want to piss off most of them, as they usually provide very useful services.

Edo Animus
Feb 19, 2011

Date tres dies mihi.

waspinator posted:

You can feel free to watch any of my archives!

https://www.twitch.tv/waspinat0r/videos

Sweet! Ever since discovering the world of LPs and Pro Starcraft 2 videos (i.e. Day[9]) I haven't had to watch regular TV in years now!

Dizz
Feb 14, 2010


L :dva: L

Schwartzcough posted:

Don't take the Tiny Beings Ring as your gift; Master Key is probably your best bet. The attack buttons are on the shoulders of the controller, so be very careful (especially with the PS3) when setting controllers down around peaceful NPCs- you do NOT want to piss off most of them, as they usually provide very useful services.

I'm a bandit and I chose the master key as my extra thing. Let's see how long it takes for me to die.

sentrygun
Dec 29, 2009

i say~
hey start:nya-sh

Dizz posted:

I finally caved and bought the game. I never played Demon Souls so this will be completely blind for me. Is there anything I need to take note of before playing other than being disgustingly careful?

The less you know the more fun you'll have. The best advice I can give you is to avoid this thread until you finish a playthrough.

Tamagod Sushi
Oct 26, 2009

One Bad Muthapaca

Dizz posted:

I finally caved and bought the game. I never played Demon Souls so this will be completely blind for me. Is there anything I need to take note of before playing other than being disgustingly careful?

Enemies will telegraph their attacks pretty well most of the time. Learn their attacks, range and timing and you'll always come out on top. Know when to use the lock on button and when not to, this will save you against some bosses.

Also always be aware of your surroundings- getting ganged up on is certain death in this game. Good luck! It's not as hard as everyone makes it out to be if you plan ahead a bit :)

Diephoon
Aug 24, 2003

LOL

Nap Ghost

Dizz posted:

I finally caved and bought the game. I never played Demon Souls so this will be completely blind for me. Is there anything I need to take note of before playing other than being disgustingly careful?

Don't hit the loving friendly npcs. If you're not sure if it's friendly, see if it tries to kill you first.

When that guy needs help getting out of a barrel later ROLL INTO IT INSTEAD OF HITTING IT WITH A WEAPON

Merauder
Apr 17, 2003

The North Remembers.
Just beat Four Kings for the first time, took 3 tries, loving YES :black101:

MY INEVITABLE DEBT
Apr 21, 2011
I am lonely and spend most of my time on 4Chan talking about the superiority of BBC porn.

Dizz posted:

I finally caved and bought the game. I never played Demon Souls so this will be completely blind for me. Is there anything I need to take note of before playing other than being disgustingly careful?

Stack endurance to 40 for victory.

Viash
Mar 17, 2003

Dizz posted:

I finally caved and bought the game. I never played Demon Souls so this will be completely blind for me. Is there anything I need to take note of before playing other than being disgustingly careful?

Being disgustingly careful is far and away the best/most important thing when starting out, before you know what you are doing. All else follows from that.

doctor 7
Oct 10, 2003

In the grim darkness of the future there is only Oakley.

Dizz posted:

I finally caved and bought the game. I never played Demon Souls so this will be completely blind for me. Is there anything I need to take note of before playing other than being disgustingly careful?
Get yourself a spear and a good shield. Always keep your shield up, especially in areas you haven't been before.

Your Moms Ahegao
Sep 3, 2008

Dizz posted:

I finally caved and bought the game. I never played Demon Souls so this will be completely blind for me. Is there anything I need to take note of before playing other than being disgustingly careful?

Your shields stability rating is probably the most important thing in the entire game. The more stability you have, the less endurance it requires to block an attack.

Find a Hollow Solider Shield or buy a Kite Shield from the blacksmith as soon as possible. Upgrade your shield the second you meet the blacksmith, you can upgrade your other weapons/armor, but it's not as important till much later in the game. Don't horde your ore thinking you will need it later. (However always save Twinkling Titanite)

Although armor will provide defensive stats, armor is more about resistance to elements like poison or lightening, buffs, and poise (Being able to ignore getting hit and not getting knocked down). Regardless of what kind of play style you choose, your shield will be the thing you use defensively more then the armor you wear. A naked player with an upgraded shield will be able to effortlessly block an attack that floors and kills a player in full plate armor and no shield.

Everyone has their preference to armor and weapons, but no one will dispute how important having a decent upgraded shield is.

Also don't hit the loving friendly npcs! And if you hit them by mistake DO NOT KILL THEM!

gibbed
Apr 10, 2006

Elysiume posted:

Why can't you downgrade crystal weapons? I need a +10 halberd. :mad:
Because you can't repair them. Upgrades count as a free repair, so you could easily just downgrade and upgrade to the crystal path again, over and over.

Zain
Dec 6, 2009

It's only forever, not long at all
Is there ever a point to upgrading shields in a magical path? Does it add a resistance to that element to it?

Also got the Notched Whip! I can't wait to belmont some people. Fire the optimal for whips or Lightning?

WS6 97
Jul 10, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
As if ToG wasn't difficult enough on NG+, I got Gravelorded. gently caress this poo poo.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


WS6 97 posted:

As if ToG wasn't difficult enough on NG+, I got Gravelorded. gently caress this poo poo.

So what does a gravelord look/ act like? Is it just like a phantom? I am yet to see one.

Auracounts
Sep 21, 2006

Schwartzcough posted:

Don't take the Tiny Beings Ring as your gift; Master Key is probably your best bet. The attack buttons are on the shoulders of the controller, so be very careful (especially with the PS3) when setting controllers down around peaceful NPCs- you do NOT want to piss off most of them, as they usually provide very useful services.

Seconding. I took the Tiny Being's Ring and it's a P.O.S. (I hadn't read any guides, walkthroughs, forums, or otherwise when I started). I'd recommend that when putting down your controller, either turn it off first, or go into a corner far away from ledges, enemies, and NPCs, and definitely be careful putting it down.

Don't hoard your souls at the beginning - it will just cause you pain as someone totally blind to it all (it's painful anyway, but I remember the first few days of Demon's Souls and it was brutal). I'd recommend using them to upgrade weapons/shield and/or pumping Vit and End. Definitely check out the minimum stats required to use whatever your preferred weapon/spell/miracle/etc is, though.

As Penny pointed out, shields are important. You will probably get a hollow soldier shield very early on. I use the Eagle shield myself, but I hear Hollow is better (and you don't get Eagle until later on anyway). Pretty much shield block when going around any corner, especially if it's dark.

Get the Drake Sword by cutting off the dragon tail when you get there - it will make the next path or two LOADS easier (assuming you melee a lot).

Also - for me, the second most important thing after my shield? Stock up a crapton of arrows once you get a short or long bow. Lots of areas seem impossible until you realize you can snipe the poo poo out of mobs, even if it takes forever to do it (I'm looking at you, blighttown and Duke's Archives).

Edit: Poison arrows kick rear end.

Auracounts fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Oct 29, 2011

Dizz
Feb 14, 2010


L :dva: L
Just died multiple times due to 2-3 skeletons killing me in a few hits. im not sure if i'm missing something but it feels like it.

WS6 97
Jul 10, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

NESguerilla posted:

So what does a gravelord look/ act like? Is it just like a phantom? I am yet to see one.

You know how in ToG most of the creatures stay still till you get very close? Well alot of these Skele-creatures are RED, Hit hard and take forever to kill(Lightning Zweihander+5 takes 6-8 hits. Also, they charge you from far, far away.

edit: Also, they killed Patches in 1 hit.

WS6 97 fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Oct 29, 2011

Auracounts
Sep 21, 2006

Dizz posted:

Just died multiple times due to 2-3 skeletons killing me in a few hits. im not sure if i'm missing something but it feels like it.

Haha. You're not. What's funny is, in a few days, those skeletons are going to seem so laughable, you'll wonder how they ever managed to kill you.

When you're this new, though, with low grade weapons, armor, and stats, definitely don't try to take on multiple enemies at once. Try to lure them one at a time.

Also, if the enemy looks like a badass (black knights come to mind), they probably are.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


WS6 97 posted:

You know how in ToG most of the creatures stay still till you get very close? Well alot of these Skele-creatures are RED, Hit hard and take forever to kill(Lightning Zweihander+5 takes 6-8 hits. Also, they charge you from far, far away.

Oh jesus that does not sound fun at all. Does the effect stay or does it die with you?

WS6 97
Jul 10, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

NESguerilla posted:

Oh jesus that does not sound fun at all. Does the effect stay or does it die with you?

Oh it stays, I've even signed out and back in to XBL.

Your Moms Ahegao
Sep 3, 2008

Dizz posted:

Just died multiple times due to 2-3 skeletons killing me in a few hits. im not sure if i'm missing something but it feels like it.

Be wary of everything, even that early in the game, the world is full of creatures of varying difficulty, you will often discover mean things you are not ready for, and everything kills you in a few hits, everything. Even the rats will make you cry.

WS6 97 posted:

You know how in ToG most of the creatures stay still till you get very close? Well alot of these Skele-creatures are RED, Hit hard and take forever to kill(Lightning Zweihander+5 takes 6-8 hits. Also, they charge you from far, far away.

edit: Also, they killed Patches in 1 hit.

Whoa, an actual Gravelord success story, that must be a first. The fact it sticks until you vanquish the mobs sounds hilarious too.

Schwartzcough
Aug 12, 2009

Don't tease the Octopus, kids!

NESguerilla posted:

Oh jesus that does not sound fun at all. Does the effect stay or does it die with you?

The Gravelord "invasion" continues until you find the gravelord sign and invade and kill the Gravelord, or until the Gravelord signs out.

I got the Gravelord "disaster" warning before when in Sens fortress, but I'd already cleared the area out and was waiting to get summoned, so I never ran into any black phantom enemies. One of the times I got summoned in Sen's Fortress, the first sound I heard was the summoner getting murdered- I did see some black phantoms before being sent back to my world.

Merauder
Apr 17, 2003

The North Remembers.

Dizz posted:

Just died multiple times due to 2-3 skeletons killing me in a few hits. im not sure if i'm missing something but it feels like it.

New DS players make me all :3: while they experience their harsh awakening.

For what its worth, if you're headed into a graveyard from the Firelink Shrine and fighting the skeletons there, you'll probably want to find a different path to start with.
If you're still in the Asylum, well... keep getting familiar with things, you'll get the hang of it soon! :v:

Dizz
Feb 14, 2010


L :dva: L

Merauder posted:

New DS players make me all :3: while they experience their harsh awakening.

For what its worth, if you're headed into a graveyard from the Firelink Shrine and fighting the skeletons there, you'll probably want to find a different path to start with.
If you're still in the Asylum, well... keep getting familiar with things, you'll get the hang of it soon! :v:

Yeah i decided to not be a woman when fighting them and took the liberty of swinging at them a few times when they started to reform after getting hit. I managed to kill the two with swords and shields but the one with the 2hander disappeared :iiam:

I'm not really sure where I am yet as I don't know the button that tells me the place but if it's of any worth, there's a note saying "fatty ahead" on the floor.

WS6 97
Jul 10, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Penny_Dreadful posted:




Whoa, an actual Gravelord success story, that must be a first. The fact it sticks until you vanquish the mobs sounds hilarious too.

I'm not gonna play DaS till that poo poo is gone from my world. I would rather fight T4K on NG+++++++++++++++. Nothing I have can kill those red phantom skeletons fast, not pyro, not ring shield. I die in 2 hits. 3 with iron flesh.

hemale in pain
Jun 5, 2010




I'm surprised Gravelord stuff works at all as I've never encountered it and any attempts at doing it myself didn't achieve anything noticeable.

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Psyker
Jun 21, 2004

[Binge and] Purge the xenos!

Nechronic posted:



Real Dark Souls, etc.

What are those weapons?!

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