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Digger-254 posted:Or that they held something back for a month to offer for free DLC to try to cut down on the resale market losses. Those first 30 days tend to be far and away the majority of sales your game is going to make.
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Cadavers4Algernon posted:I never understood the competition bred between the two, they have absolutely nothing in common outside of a basic aesthetic and that both use shoulder buttons for different hands. Are you going to be a dual magic character though? The Greatsword is going to be really bad unless you focus on leveling both faith and intelligence equally, while also meeting the rather steep investment in strength and dex.
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Nov 3, 2011 01:19
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I actually read that as Moonlight Greatsword, to be honest. I just assumed that's what he was talking about. Whoops! At least it didn't affect my response.
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Nov 3, 2011 01:20
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Jetpack Postman posted:Don't Occult weapons also perma-kill skeletons? They do not.
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Nov 3, 2011 01:21
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Elysiume posted:Someone suggest it and I can't remember who, but I went with the Estoc and it's worked fairly well. You can also grab the Tin Banishment Catalyst really early on if you take the master key, and it's actually a really strong weapon that early on. You can't do parries, backstabs, plunging attacks, kicks, roll attacks, or jump attacks with it, though. Yeah Estoc and the Red Mage's robe you find with the Catalyst were pretty much my plan from the get go so this works fine. A friend also suggested on starting with the Wanderer and just purchasing soul arrow from the smith in New Londo so I'd have some decent physical damage early on. ThePhenomenalBaby posted:Are you going to be a dual magic character though? The Greatsword is going to be really bad unless you focus on leveling both faith and intelligence equally, while also meeting the rather steep investment in strength and dex. Was really more hoping for focusing more on physical/magic (but not pyromancy, already done that once before). But I keep waffling back and forth... Elysiume posted:I actually read that as Moonlight Greatsword, to be honest. I just assumed that's what he was talking about. Whoops! At least it didn't affect my response. That's a better suggestion. I think I'll do that instead!
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Nov 3, 2011 01:24
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Cadavers4Algernon posted:I never understood the competition bred between the two, they have absolutely nothing in common outside of a basic aesthetic and that both use shoulder buttons for different hands. 31 Int will get you five orbs out of the soul mass spells. That will pretty much make the game a cake walk.
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Nov 3, 2011 01:24
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Cadavers4Algernon posted:Yeah Estoc and the Red Mage's robe you find with the Catalyst were pretty much my plan from the get go so this works fine. A friend also suggested on starting with the Wanderer and just purchasing soul arrow from the smith in New Londo so I'd have some decent physical damage early on. Honestly, every sorcerer should grab the Sealer's robes, Tin Banishment Catalyst, and Dragon Crest Shield before they even start the game proper. A solid 100% shield that is great against the Gargoyles, good early game armor, and an awesome catalyst and weapon.
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Nov 3, 2011 01:27
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The True Greatsword of Artorias is good weapon but really requires a specific build to shine. If I were you I'd really think about it before committing points to any one thing.
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Nov 3, 2011 01:28
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This evening I have been the Frontin' Dragon in darkroot forest. I put down my white phantom sign in there and help people out against invaders with my dragon form powers and the 'come at me bro' emote. Me and one guy teamed up for like an hour and took out about 30 invaders before we eventually got killed (by a mushroom man). If you're out there Zuech32646, I would've rejoined you but it said join failed every time you tried to summon me again. The dragon roar is hilarious for PvP and people never expect you to parry their poo poo with your bare hands. Or roar them to a cliff edge and punch them off it with a leaping doublepunch. Mostly though I just helped the other dude get kills by roaring peoples blocks away or sneaking round and backstabbing. One dude who summoned me had a bunch of blue phantoms on him and I got all of them with one toxic cloud.
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Nov 3, 2011 01:35
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Vargs posted:Speaking of invading, does the trident buff nearby enemies when you're a red phantom? I was thinking of getting that plus the channeler set on a low level character and hanging out with the other channeler in the parish church, buffing hollows and tossing soul arrows. With the fattest character model. Hopefully the buff is just as good if you don't meet the weapon requirements as well, because gently caress if I'll have 24 int and a mess of str and dex by that level. I've seen a video on youtube where a red phantom uses the trident in the crystal caves to buff one of the crystal golems so it seems that it does work on hollows when you are a red phantom. From my own experimentation with other weapons that give R2 effects however you need to have the stats required for the weapon to use the effect (only tried with the stone great sword thing).
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Nov 3, 2011 01:35
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Hahahaha gently caress this poo poo, I died to the titanite demon after I killed the ninth bug in Lost Izalith without realizing that the sunlight maggot dropped. Can't find the drop anywhere and I've died a couple times since then. Am I completely screwed or can I still get the motherfucker?
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Nov 3, 2011 01:45
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Yea its probably gone.
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Nov 3, 2011 01:50
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For the dragon covenant, what sort of stats/build work best? I'm guessing strength, but I honestly have no idea.
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Nov 3, 2011 02:02
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Depends on what stats increase the damage of your firebreath/body aura. Which I honestly don't know!
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Nov 3, 2011 02:03
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Volitaire posted:Yea its probably gone. gently caress. Oh well, guess I'll go save Dusk
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Nov 3, 2011 02:04
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ThePhenomenalBaby posted:Depends on what stats increase the damage of your firebreath/body aura. Which I honestly don't know! The fire breath's damage scales with your rank in the covenant. The body aura doesn't do damage and is always effective despite your rank. BigLeafyTree posted:For the dragon covenant, what sort of stats/build work best? If you're planning on using the dragon body form like all the time then Resistance might actually be decent. Otherwise it really doesn't matter.
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Nov 3, 2011 02:07
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I just made a new char so here's a quick, spoiler-y list of stuff to grab (not recommended for your first playthrough) First, don't collect souls/humanity before doing this, you might die while getting this stuff. Once you get to the Firelink Shrine go down to New Londo and grab the Fire Keeper's Soul. (Take a right at the first ghost and go into the archway, there's a small water-covered path you can walk on to grab the Soul.) There's also an Estoc on the way. With the master key, open the door to Valley of the Drakes from New Londo. Go into Blighttown, climb down to grab the Crimson Set (it's a couple ladders down and across a tree branch). There's some moss in a chest near the water wheel so you can cross the swamp and go to the Hollow for the Cloranthy Ring. I suppose if you really want to, you could go to Darkroot and get some more stuff there, although getting around the drakes would probably be hard. Back in the Valley of the Drakes, grab the Red Tearstone Ring, then Astora's Straight Sword and the Dragon Crest Shield from the Undead Dragon. In the Firelink Shrine, run through the graveyard and pick up everything, and pick up the rest of the items lying around. Let me know if I missed anything. ed: fixed based on feedback chunkles fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Nov 3, 2011 |
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Nov 3, 2011 02:11
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Good God, the fight against Gwyn, Lord Of Cinder  I know that parrying him is the way to go...but that's much, much easier said than done. I'm usually pretty good at parrying, but one fuckup and you're wide open for Flaming Greatsword Anal Rampage Bonanza Time. I love the design of this fight, even though it's incredibly hard. As other people have said earlier, just the way he fights let you know he wants you dead harder than anything has ever wanted anything else dead.
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Nov 3, 2011 02:12
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Daeren posted:Good God, the fight against Gwyn, Lord Of Cinder Block the first swing of the combo then parry the second. He takes his sweet, sweet time and sets him self up to let you stab him right through. I love that fight; no cutscene, great music, humanoid enemy, and an open room for the two of you to charge and blast at each other like gods.
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Nov 3, 2011 02:13
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BigLeafyTree posted:For the dragon covenant, what sort of stats/build work best? My dragon character is high strength but I dunno if that affects his unarmed dragon form attack at all. The various buffs dragon form gives dont show up on the stats page at all so I have no idea how any of it works.
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Nov 3, 2011 02:14
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Guliani is HOT posted:With the master key, open the door to Valley of the Drakes from New Londo. Go into Blighttown, climb down to grab the Crimson Set (it's a couple ladders down and across a tree branch). If you're really brave, you could go for the Fire Keeper's Soul, although I didn't try.
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Nov 3, 2011 02:21
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I've hit a wall, hard, on the Four Kings. First it was simply getting to them, then you guys told me of a path that avoided fights. Yay! I still die every time I get down there. I don't like that. I've tried summoning phantoms, but they haven't been following me. Instead they try to fight all the Darkwraiths and get slaughtered. Or get me slaughtered trying to rescue them. I did have one success story tonight. After a long drought, I finally found someone to summon! I hit his sign and, moments later, got an invasion notice! This spirit of vengeance arrived on the scene just as my new buddy appeared. He rushed down to attack before the odds turned. I blocked, and swung. He blocked, too, but the attack pushed him off the ledge to his death. Praise the sun!
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Nov 3, 2011 02:25
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ConfusedUs posted:I've hit a wall, hard, on the Four Kings.
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Daeren posted:Good God, the fight against Gwyn, Lord Of Cinder I defeated him on my first attempt without parrying but it was very close. The trick is to stay in close and bait him to use his grab attack then quickly back away. He'll whiff it and stumble leaving himself wide open. I wouldn't attempt to damage him at any other point, he recovers too quickly and will combo you.
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Guliani is HOT posted:I suppose if you really want to, you could go to Darkroot and get some more stuff there, although getting around the drakes would probably be hard. How is getting past the drakes hard if getting past the toxic blow-dart guys in blight-town is easy? As long as you run as you pass them they just spray lightning to one side of you. You can easily grab the bandit set and the red tearstone ring before you bone/darksign/suicide out. ConfusedUs posted:I've hit a wall, hard, on the Four Kings. Get a weapon that lets you do the most damage two-handed the fastest. Most people would recommend an upgraded lightning spear, or the fury sword made with the spider-lady's soul, or pyromancy if you've got an upgraded hand and some +magic damage gear. Get as close to the boss as you physically can and you'll only take chip-damage from being hit by the hilt. Swing away, don't bother blocking, walk sideways around him to avoid thrusts and overhead cleaves. If you can't kill the kings fast enough to avoid fighting two or more at once, use iron flesh/magic barrier to soak it. Vanguard Warden fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Nov 3, 2011 |
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doctor 7 posted:That's actually a pretty good response for why they won't release DLC. You gotta admit, Dark Souls is a loving MASSIVE game. I wouldn't want them to have to take time away from making the inevitable sequel either. If armored core is any indication we will be seeing a new Dark Souls game every two or three years until we are dead. Even if it gets to the point where 5 people on the planet are buying it.
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Guliani is HOT posted:I just made a new char so here's a quick, spoiler-y list of stuff to grab (not recommended for your first playthrough) If you're going that far, you may as well head to the Hollow and grab the Cloranthy Ring. You can get there from Blightown without having to kill anything except some mosquitoes and maybe a firebug or two, and there's a couple Moss Clumps near the water wheel to clear the poison you get from the swamp. With that and Havel's it'll be a while before you find a different worthwhile ring. If you can make it to the Hollow from Firelink you can homeward bone straight back using the bones from above Petrus.
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I have yet to get mad about anything in this game but I just lost a little over 50k souls and 3 humanity to some stupid mistake and I hate everything. Why did I have to die and leave my bloodstain directly in the path of a swinging blade?????
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Nov 3, 2011 02:37
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YorexTheMad posted:If you're going that far, you may as well head to the Hollow and grab the Cloranthy Ring. You can get there from Blightown without having to kill anything except some mosquitoes and maybe a firebug or two, and there's a couple Moss Clumps near the water wheel to clear the poison you get from the swamp. With that and Havel's it'll be a while before you find a different worthwhile ring. If you can make it to the Hollow from Firelink you can homeward bone straight back using the bones from above Petrus.
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Vanguard Warden posted:How is getting past the drakes hard if getting past the toxic blow-dart guys in blight-town is easy? It varies by your starter class, but (of course) a Level 1 Pyro can take those guys out with one Fireball shot.
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Nov 3, 2011 02:37
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Elysiume posted:What level are you and what gear are you trying to use? SL 60. Havel's, Crystal Ring Shield, Lightning Zweihander +3, pyro hand +14 I tried the Iron Flesh smackdown route, but last time I did it solo I got grabbed over and over and over and over until it finally ran out and I died. Maybe I'm just unlucky.
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Vanguard Warden posted:How is getting past the drakes hard if getting past the toxic blow-dart guys in blight-town is easy? As long as you run as you pass them they just spray lightning to one side of you. You can easily grab the bandit set and the red tearstone ring before you bone/darksign/suicide out. Mainly cause there's one on a path and I didn't think there was room to get around him. That was just off memory, I didn't actually try it, so yeah it's probably pretty doable.
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Nov 3, 2011 02:45
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Dear Lost Izalith, Get hosed. Sincerely, Merauder
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Overbite posted:I have yet to get mad about anything in this game but I just lost a little over 50k souls and 3 humanity to some stupid mistake and I hate everything. Why did I have to die and leave my bloodstain directly in the path of a swinging blade????? I lost 30 humanity to ceaseless discharge once because I figured "Hey, I can totally make it back to the fog door." followed shortly by "I can get back to my bloodstain no problem, I don't need a ring of sacrifice." I was wrong. Twice. Don't worry about it though. Souls can be farmed easily, and humanity can be farmed with a little more difficulty. Guliani is HOT posted:Mainly cause there's one on a path and I didn't think there was room to get around him. That was just off memory, I didn't actually try it, so yeah it's probably pretty doable. Yeah, you can totally go around that guy to the right. Just don't try to loot the item in the cave next to him and expect to complete the run for the rest of the stuff. It's actually kind of funny when you get to the ladder at the end and see four drakes going crazy at the base of it. Vanguard Warden fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Nov 3, 2011 |
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ConfusedUs posted:SL 60. Havel's, Crystal Ring Shield, Lightning Zweihander +3, pyro hand +14 Where are you standing when you attack them? I find that being as close to them as possible actually limits how much damage they can do. I'm talking really close, like you're pressing against them. They'll do some quick sword strikes that deal very little damage and can be tanked through, then it's just trying to deal as much damage as possible. If you give them any space they'll have access to stronger attacks, like their AoE explosion and stronger sword strikes.
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Merauder posted:Dear Lost Izalith, Aggro them with a bow and run like the dickens to a spot they cannot reach you, they'll kill each other. There's some tangled tree roots kinda near the back of the area that works well.
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Safe Driver posted:Aggro them with a bow and run like the dickens to a spot they cannot reach you, they'll kill each other. There's some tangled tree roots kinda near the back of the area that works well. Alternatively, bring a thousand arrows and kick back, hitting their big fat asses while you drink beer for an hour. That's what I did and Lost Izalith was a snap 
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SixtySix posted:Alternatively, bring a thousand arrows and kick back, hitting their big fat asses while you drink beer for an hour. That's what I did and Lost Izalith was a snap The first time I saw one start to jump, I was like "okay I know they jump" and then it actually took off and I was pretty much 
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I went toe-to-toe with those assholes in Lost Izalith. Put on the lava ring, block their all their poo poo, and destroy their feet with a two-handed "gently caress you" weapon. It wasn't difficult, but that is easily the worst, most lazily designed area in this game by far.
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Something I find really fun is taking moonlight greatsword and repair spell, shoot beams left and right (works with crystal ring shield too but that's getting nerfed). The repair spell repairs everything you have equipped, both armor and weapons (including weapons in off hand/swap). I imagine it works just as well with other weapons that have useful specials, and 14 int is easy to justify with all the utility sorceries.
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