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TheNintenGenius posted:I find it funny that you qualify your suggestion for Bone Machine with it being a really weird album, when The Black Rider is, in my opinion at least, the absolute strangest album Waits has ever done. I mean, at bare minimum none of his other albums feature him singing like a wizened old crone or spoken word bits from William S. Burroughs. Yeah, I meant to remove the qualifier at all, then just moved on in thought. The Black Rider is pretty out there as well.
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Maha posted:Where do I start with Raymond Watts' PIG? I'm not an expert on PIG but I'm pretty sure you'll get a good answer in The Electro-Industrial thread.
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kingturnip posted:From the bits of reading I've done online, it seems like their debut "Back In The D.H.S.S." is the way to go, particularly if you can get a version with "The Trumpton Riots E.P." included. Thanks for that - I'll get on to Amazon tomorrow.
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Voodoofly posted:In my opinion: Hey, couple of weeks late with this but just wanted to say thanks for this, really great rec. Got hold of a few albums on this list, currently digging Black Star the most at the moment. Cheers!
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where do i start with Whitehouse's more "rocking" stuff. the kind of stuff that influenced Burmese, Drunkdriver and Billy Bao type bands
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Where do I start with Black Flag? There's so much, all the different singers, I have no idea where to start with this.
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Blast Fantasto posted:Where do I start with Black Flag? Damaged is pretty much known as their definitive release, the singer on that is Henry Rollins, so I'd start with that. Before that they had three different lead singers: Keith Morris, Ron Reyes and Dez Candena. They all feature on various singles and EPs: I honestly am not super familiar with these releases, so I can't make a recommendation there. Hopefully someone else can. But I'd definitely start with Damaged. e: v Do what he says.
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The First Four Years covers most of the stuff with different singers. Everything from Damaged onward had Rollins singing. So, get The First Four Years, Damaged, and My War. Continue on through the discography if you like the second side of My War but skip Family Man and go straight to Slip It In for now. If not, start listening to other 80s Hardcore.
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Blast Fantasto posted:Where do I start with Black Flag? fake edit - since that guy just said basically the same thing I was going to, I'm going to fall back to my comedy option: track down the Minuteflag EP (please don't, it'll bring down your opinion of two great bands)
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dailydares posted:
Thanks so much, I'll definitely get those three releases first. Do you have any other 80s Hardcore recommendations?
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Blast Fantasto posted:Thanks so much, I'll definitely get those three releases first. Do you have any other 80s Hardcore recommendations? Minor Threat, SSD, FEAR, Bad Brains, The Germs, TSOL, Husker Du, Youth Brigade, Wasted Youth, Dr. Know, Reagan Youth, Kraut.
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Blast Fantasto posted:Thanks so much, I'll definitely get those three releases first. Do you have any other 80s Hardcore recommendations? Minutemen! This Ain't No Picnic Jesus & Tequila Double Nickels on the Dime is one of the finest albums to come out of the 80's, hardcore or otherwise. Consider the fierceness of the two songs above, and then these, which appeared on the same album: History Lesson, Pt II Cohesion me your dad fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Nov 10, 2011 |
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Blast Fantasto posted:Thanks so much, I'll definitely get those three releases first. Do you have any other 80s Hardcore recommendations? Also check out Void, the Faith, and if you like Minor Threat you should definitely get to Fugazi at some point (though they aren't hardcore), Government Issue, Negative FX. Definitely do what me your dad said: Double Nickels, while ridiculously intimidating at first, is one of the greatest albums ever.
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LtTennisBall posted:Also check out Void, the Faith, and if you like Minor Threat you should definitely get to Fugazi at some point (though they aren't hardcore), Government Issue, Negative FX. Definitely do what me your dad said: Double Nickels, while ridiculously intimidating at first, is one of the greatest albums ever. Plus Mike Watt owns.
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Also related - The Minutemen documentary "We Jam Econo", is on Netflix instant watch, and it's a great film. RIP D Boon 
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Polegrinder posted:Plus Mike Watt owns. this. especially this.
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Stuff that hasn't been mentioned yet: Cro-Mags, Deep Wound, Negative Approach, Big Boys, MDC, Really Red, The Meatmen, Angry Samoans, Circle Jerks, Necros, Poison Idea, Crucifucks, the This Is Boston Not LA compilation Maybe try New York Hardcore and Youth Crew stuff? I don't know, I don't like a lot of that stuff anymore but Judge will always be great. Youth Of Today, Gorilla Biscuits, Chain Of Strength, Bold, etc.
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Wow, thanks for the amazing recommendations guys. I'm already way in to Husker Du, Bad Brains and Fugazi, but basically everything else posted is new to me. The Minutemen seems to be the one people are posting the most, so I'll probably start there.
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If you can get the Embrace album (Ian MacKaye with 3/4 of the Faith), it's like the missing link between Minor Threat and Fugazi.
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Moe_Rahn posted:If you can get the Embrace album (Ian MacKaye with 3/4 of the Faith), it's like the missing link between Minor Threat and Fugazi. and if you check out Embrace you should check out Rites of Spring, and if you like them you should listen to The Nation of Ulysses and...I think you're gonna have enough bands to last forever. e: now that I think about it, with the amount of Dischord bands we've listed, it might be in your favor to just pick up Flex Your Head and possibly the 20 Years of Dischord compilation. LtTennisBall fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Nov 11, 2011 |
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Ocean Rain. Edit: My opinion: it's their best album and if you don't like it you may as well stop there. Beaucoup Cuckoo fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Nov 12, 2011 |
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EAT DOG TODAYYYY posted:Ocean Rain. What this dude said, plus their first two, Crocodiles and Heaven Up Here, as well.
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Jesus Lizard I've heard a few of their songs like Nub, Mouthbreather, Boilermaker, and If You Had Lips. Should I just start at the beginning or is there like 1-2 must haves?
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Polegrinder posted:Jesus Lizard Goat probably. How about Bauhaus?
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Polegrinder posted:Jesus Lizard Goat definitely. Where do I start with the Cheater Slicks? The Intelligence? also i still need some help with Whitehouse 
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Slayer? I've been listening to metal for the last 10 years but I've somehow never really gotten into Slayer. The only two songs I can name are Angel of Death and Raining Blood. Where do I go?
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Kumbamontu posted:Slayer? Those are both off Reign in Blood, which is pretty much the essential Slayer album.
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Bathtub Cheese posted:How about Bauhaus? Just go chronologically and ignore the reunion album that came out a few years ago. nadabolt posted:Where do I start with the Cheater Slicks? The Intelligence? For Cheater Slicks, start with Don't Like You. All the stuff on In The Red/Crypt is solid. For The Intelligence start with Males, the production is cleaned up and the songwriting and hooks really shine. Their two releases from 2009, Fake Surfers and Crepescule With Pacman are both excellent as well.
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ultrafilter posted:Those are both off Reign in Blood, which is pretty much the essential Slayer album. From there, skip ahead two records, not one, and check the Seasons in the Abyss LP. From there, spread out as necessary. Skip any record that does not have Dave Lombardo on it. ...okay, maybe not EVERY record without Lombo. I liked "Bloodline" okay (I forget what record that was on.)
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Allen Wren posted:From there, skip ahead two records, not one, and check the Seasons in the Abyss LP. This is an awesome album, but the name always makes me sing to myself "We had joy, we had bliss/We had seasons in th'abyss."
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Goddammit, now I can't unhear it.
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Kumbamontu posted:Slayer? These are all classic: Show No Mercy (1983) Hell Awaits (1985) Reign in Blood (1986) South of Heaven (1988) Seasons in the Abyss (1990) The rest are, well, more or less skippable.
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How about Kraftwerk? Trans-Europe Express seems like the go to by all accounts but what are the other essentials?
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screaden posted:How about Kraftwerk? Trans-Europe Express seems like the go to by all accounts but what are the other essentials? Trans-Europe Express is definitely their best album and probably the best starting point. Otherwise, everything they released up to Computer World is certainly worth a listen, with that album and Autobahn in particular being probably the next albums of theirs to look into. Post-Computer World, Tour de France is nice and worth a listen, while The Mix is decent but inessential (though somewhat interesting) and Electric Cafe/Techno Pop is just loving terrible and should be skipped outright (apart from "Telephone Line" and "House Phone," with the latter only appearing on the recent reissue of the album).
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screaden posted:How about Kraftwerk? Trans-Europe Express seems like the go to by all accounts but what are the other essentials? Really, Kraftwerk did no wrong from Autobahn to Tour De France Soundtracks, though Electric Cafe gets a lot of flak because it doesn't really bring anything new to the table and the production's quite typically 80's. It's not without its charms though. If you liked Trans-Europe Express, i'd recommend this order... The Man Machine, Computer World, Radioactivity, Autobahn, Tour De France Soundtracks then Electric Cafe if you're still interested. The title track from Autobahn is absolutely essential but the rest of the album tends to slip into their sound experiments of their first three out-of-print albums. It's fine but it's not the Kraftwerk on display on Trans-Europe Express. They still had a lot of streamlining to do.
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Genius and Biscuit are both on the money so I won't contradict them, but I'd suggest, even if you have to get a tape of it from a friend, tracking down their third album, "Ralf und Florian." I found it on LP at a Half-Price Books some time ago, as a total luck thing---the guy working the counter remarked that he'd just put it on the shelf about five minutes prior and figured someone would snag it immediately. Dude was also from Dusseldorf originally, so. But anyway, yeah, there's a lot of sound experiments going on on the record, but it's not cold and clanking like the stuff on the back half of the first NEU! record, the sound is absolutely lush. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCg7hPeUdvE holy crap vintage news footage of the group
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nadabolt posted:Goat definitely.
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Allen Wren posted:From there, skip ahead two records, not one, and check the Seasons in the Abyss LP. From there, spread out as necessary. Skip any record that does not have Dave Lombardo on it. DEAR RICHARD posted:These are all classic: Anyone that tells you to skip Diabolus in Musica and God Hates Us All is not your friend and wants you to be miserable.
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Willie The Disk posted:Mmm, I like what I've heard of Vivaldi and Chopin... usually listen to the latter while studying. And I like Requiem by Mozart, but I should listen to it more. I have a bunch of Bach and Beethoven, but have no clue where to start. I also hear Stravinsky's worth looking into... I think he was revered both by Frank Zappa and Tom Waits. And Stravinsky is revered for good reason! Arguably his most famous composition, The Rite Of Spring, was met with rioting during its first performance because of its depiction of pagan dance in the setting of a ballet. You can watch the whole thing on youtube, but it's more often done with the music alone as a suite rather than the ballet itself. Still amazing, though. I would also recommend The Firebird Suite and Symphony of Psalms. For Mozart I can recommend The Magic Flute, The Marriage of Figaro, Symphony 40 in G minor, and Symphony 31 in D major. It's all good, really. In general then, I would suggest Debussy's Piano Preludes, the Bach Goldberg Variations, Beethoven's 5th, 9th, and 6th Symphonies, and Schubert's Death of the Maiden quartet.
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