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Deep Thoreau
Aug 16, 2008

AlmightyBob posted:

I bought the mods for the dog gun, installed them, and then later got the upgrade and used that and now the mods are gone and it actually does less damage now ;[

wait, upgrade? I have the mods for it, but what upgrade?

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Boogle
Sep 1, 2004

Nap Ghost

Bash Ironfist posted:

wait, upgrade? I have the mods for it, but what upgrade?

The unique variant called FIDO.

Jet Jaguar
Feb 12, 2006

Don't touch my bags if you please, Mr Customs Man.



If you have a high enough Guns skill, I think you can get two K9000s. One to modify, one to turn into FIDO.

The cyberdog mods are the best weapon mod names in the game.

eating only apples
Dec 12, 2009

Shall we dance?

AlmightyBob posted:

I bought the mods for the dog gun, installed them, and then later got the upgrade and used that and now the mods are gone and it actually does less damage now ;[

Yeah, you can't apply mods to FIDO, so they're removed when you upgrade it. A fully modded K9 does more damage than FIDO. There are only two or three dog guns in the game, I think, making it one of the rarest non-unique weapons.

e: just two. One received from the Think Tank, one nabbed off the Master Trauma Harness in X-12.

Chairman Mao
Apr 24, 2004

The Chinese Communist Party is the core of leadership of the whole Chinese people. Without this core, the cause of socialism cannot be victorious.

MrL_JaKiri posted:

Melee is much better for lower levels, to be honest.

Yeah, I ended up using the knuckles I found on the Duntons for a few levels. Now I've got a handgun and a sidekick and I can finally kill stuff.

So far absolutely loving this game.

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

Chairman Mao posted:

Yeah, I ended up using the knuckles I found on the Duntons for a few levels. Now I've got a handgun and a sidekick and I can finally kill stuff.

So far absolutely loving this game.

Make a bee-line south for San Francisco. Make sure you save first.

Arcturas
Mar 30, 2011

My Fallout 2 starting goals were always to run from combats early and rush to get some levels from random conversations and fetch quests; three or four levels worth of points dumped into a tagged guns or energy weapons skill usually means I can finally shoot those rats.

Positronic Spleen
May 5, 2010

Cream-of-Plenty posted:

Nothing official removes the clicking from your Geiger counter. Possibly something you're using (mod-wise) has replaced the sound with a blank audio file. Or it's bad / missing and the next time you run a cached file integrity check, it'll be replaced and "fixed".
None of my mods should affect it, but I disabled some, and it started working again. I don't know if they were actually related to the problem, or maybe just some weird save bug that sorted itself out at the same time, whatever.

Unrelated to that, I just discovered the real way to disable v-sync via the INI file tweak, and my framerate went up by 10-20 with no discernible loss in quality. I wish I knew about this sooner! I thought it was HDR sucking it all up, but apparently that has no effect on my framerate at all, so I turned it back on after not having used it in a while, and WOW things can glow!

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

JawKnee posted:

Make a bee-line south for San Francisco. Make sure you save first.

Don't do this.

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



Lipstick Apathy

MrL_JaKiri posted:

Don't do this.

explain

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

Francois Kofko posted:

explain

it is incredibly dumb to tell a first-time player "hey, do this sequence break that totally fucks with the natural item progression and makes absolutely no sense to do from a role-playing perspective"

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."

Positronic Spleen posted:

None of my mods should affect it, but I disabled some, and it started working again. I don't know if they were actually related to the problem, or maybe just some weird save bug that sorted itself out at the same time, whatever.

Unrelated to that, I just discovered the real way to disable v-sync via the INI file tweak, and my framerate went up by 10-20 with no discernible loss in quality. I wish I knew about this sooner! I thought it was HDR sucking it all up, but apparently that has no effect on my framerate at all, so I turned it back on after not having used it in a while, and WOW things can glow!

Are you talking about the ipresentinterval=1 line?

Francois Kofko posted:

explain

I assume he's saying that because it's cool to go to SF and break the game on the second or third playthrough, but it sounds like the guy receiving the advice hasn't played FO2 before. So it really sort of screws things up. Kind of like when I was playing FO3 and ran into the PC's dad beneath that Mechanic's Shop before I had ever set foot in DC.

EDIT: Beaten!

Positronic Spleen
May 5, 2010

Cream-of-Plenty posted:

Are you talking about the ipresentinterval=1 line?
Yeah, it makes the game much less janky with no apparent downside.

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



Lipstick Apathy
[i was asking out of personal curiosity because i haven't actually played fallout 2 either]

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."

Francois Kofko posted:

[i was asking out of personal curiosity because i haven't actually played fallout 2 either]

You should. I hold the curmudgeonly opinion that you're perfectly fine going from FO to FO2 to FO: NV without ever touching FO3. New Vegas has so many callbacks to FO and FO2 it's ridiculous (awesome.)

Positronic Spleen posted:

Yeah, it makes the game much less janky with no apparent downside.

ipresentinterval is one of those lines I've always set to "0" since Oblivion. It's one of the quirks of Gamebryo, and a source of a lot of frustration when people disable their vsync but still feel like vsync is on. Because it still is.

rossmum
Dec 2, 2008

Cummander ross, reporting for duty!

:gooncamp:
That's sound advice any way you look at it. FO3 absolutely mauled canon if you care about that, and if you don't it was just an objectively inferior game anyway. And I say all this as someone whose first experience with Fallout was that game... I got FO and FO2 not long after out of curiosity and it was a hell of an eye opener.

Only FO3 that exists as far as I'm concerned is Van Buren :colbert:

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



Lipstick Apathy
i tried to play the first one and died to some rats outside the vault, said 'gently caress this' and quit

rossmum
Dec 2, 2008

Cummander ross, reporting for duty!

:gooncamp:
It's a huge difficulty leap. I actually haven't finished either 1 or 2 (though I do play them both whenever I'm on my laptop, away from home, and I love them) because holy poo poo old games are hard. It's frustrating, but in a refreshing way. I'm getting kind of tired of having my hand held for me.

e/ A little creche of golden geckos has taken up residence in the Highway 95 Viper's Encampment. Welp, that's one less thing for me to clear out, thanks lil buddies :buddy:

rossmum fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Nov 13, 2011

antidote
Jun 15, 2005

Francois Kofko posted:

i tried to play the first one and died to some rats outside the vault, said 'gently caress this' and quit

Jesus, it's no wonder developers have to make games so easy these days.

Chairman Mao
Apr 24, 2004

The Chinese Communist Party is the core of leadership of the whole Chinese people. Without this core, the cause of socialism cannot be victorious.

rossmum posted:

It's a huge difficulty leap. I actually haven't finished either 1 or 2 (though I do play them both whenever I'm on my laptop, away from home, and I love them) because holy poo poo old games are hard. It's frustrating, but in a refreshing way. I'm getting kind of tired of having my hand held for me.

Fallout 2 is really no harder than 3. The only thing I really didn't like about the beginning of the game so far has been the loving "Here is the varied and open world of Fallout, where you can explore the vast postapocalyptic wasteland, travel to new towns and unfurl a rich and detailed storYOU WILL NOW FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF WITH THE COMBAT SYSTEM. YOU MUST DO THIS BEFORE YOU ARE ALLOWED TO PLAY THE VIDEO GAME." temple. Basically a cross between 3's "baby" sequence and one of the sewer levels.

Edit: That's one of the things they finally got right with New Vegas. "Can you walk? Can you click on things? Awesome, what do you want your stats to be? Welcome to Fallout!"

Edit: Haha, Vault City was sent 100 water chips by mistake. The entire first two games would never have happened if it wasn't for a shipping error.

Chairman Mao fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Nov 13, 2011

rossmum
Dec 2, 2008

Cummander ross, reporting for duty!

:gooncamp:
Probably true... I'm super bad at turn-based stuff. I have similar misfortune with JA2.

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



Lipstick Apathy

antidote posted:

Jesus, it's no wonder developers have to make games so easy these days.

its true, i'm a major stockholder and my skill at video games is brought up at every meeting

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

Chairman Mao posted:

Fallout 2 is really no harder than 3. The only thing I really didn't like about the beginning of the game so far has been the loving "Here is the varied and open world of Fallout, where you can explore the vast postapocalyptic wasteland, travel to new towns and unfurl a rich and detailed storYOU WILL NOW FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF WITH THE COMBAT SYSTEM. YOU MUST DO THIS BEFORE YOU ARE ALLOWED TO PLAY THE VIDEO GAME." temple.

Ya.. irritated me how difficult it was for my smooth talking gunslinger to be forced into going through a temple with a spear. Pretty much save/load spam till I could get to the end of it, where finally my smooth talking would come into play and I wouldn't have to fight the guy there. Good thing too, or I'd never get through unless I made a character that was good with unarmed or melee.

jvempire
May 10, 2009

Francois Kofko posted:

i tried to play the first one and died to some rats outside the vault, said 'gently caress this' and quit
The random events do sometimes seem impossible at a beginning level. Thankfully, you can just run off to the side of the map to flee them.

Leal posted:

Ya.. irritated me how difficult it was for my smooth talking gunslinger to be forced into going through a temple with a spear. Pretty much save/load spam till I could get to the end of it, where finally my smooth talking would come into play and I wouldn't have to fight the guy there. Good thing too, or I'd never get through unless I made a character that was good with unarmed or melee.
I think the unofficial FO2 patch fixes the temple, because I had no troubles with it. Just had to kill a few scorpions and figure out where the next door is.

AlmightyBob
Sep 8, 2003

Is there any way to get into the red team side of vault 19?

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

AlmightyBob posted:

Is there any way to get into the red team side of vault 19?

There are two overseer offices in Vault 19 from memory, and both have a different leader inside. Talk to both and agree to do their missions and they'll give you the keycards you need to get inside.

I think that I'm thinking of the correct vault.

AlmightyBob
Sep 8, 2003

I only went into the one office and already blew up the cave, hope I can still do the other one

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

AlmightyBob posted:

I only went into the one office and already blew up the cave, hope I can still do the other one

I think you're probably all out of luck then, I'm fairly certain you can only get the red key card from that overseer. I assume the other inhabitants of the vault have already left?

AlmightyBob
Sep 8, 2003

Jerusalem posted:

I think you're probably all out of luck then, I'm fairly certain you can only get the red key card from that overseer. I assume the other inhabitants of the vault have already left?

Don't know, I'll have to go back and check later.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

If there are still inhabitants there, you may be able to follow one through into the red sector, or possibly kill one to get his keycard (I'm not sure if the latter will work).

Chairman Mao
Apr 24, 2004

The Chinese Communist Party is the core of leadership of the whole Chinese people. Without this core, the cause of socialism cannot be victorious.

jvempire posted:

The random events do sometimes seem impossible at a beginning level. Thankfully, you can just run off to the side of the map to flee them.

I think the unofficial FO2 patch fixes the temple, because I had no troubles with it. Just had to kill a few scorpions and figure out where the next door is.

I'm using the patch, and it's not that it's broken, it's poorly designed and irritating.

But whatever that's forever ago. I found myself another buddy, he's a ghoul and he doesn't have a portrait picture and he can't fight for poo poo. I'm keeping him forever. :)

Leal posted:

smooth talking gunslinger

:hfive:

rossmum
Dec 2, 2008

Cummander ross, reporting for duty!

:gooncamp:
Speaking of smooth talking and gunslingers, I'm playing through the NV Bounties mod while I try figure out how to unfuck Dead Money, and holy poo poo does this own. I nearly lost my poo poo at the Kelly gang :australia:

For anyone who hasn't tried this, it's definitely worth playing. The voice acting ranges from passable at worst to excellent, and the writing isn't too bad. There's lots of little nods and winks to things throughout but they're not overly clumsy or juvenile like most mods that try to do the same, and the missions are challenging and (at times) pant-shittingly tense. I crept into a cavern only to find it was some kind of Ghoul bootcamp and proceeded to make the biggest mess I have ever seen in the game, it was like the O.K. Corral but with ten times the shooters in a small cavern. Oh, and with a loving FN FAL and high explosives. Head to the FO:NV modding thread, there's links to Part I and II and other cool things.

LLCoolJD
Dec 8, 2007

Musk threatens the inorganic promotion of left-wing ideology that had been taking place on the platform

Block me for being an unironic DeSantis fan, too!

rossmum posted:

Speaking of smooth talking and gunslingers, I'm playing through the NV Bounties mod while I try figure out how to unfuck Dead Money, and holy poo poo does this own. I nearly lost my poo poo at the Kelly gang :australia:

I played through the first Bounties mod and enjoyed it. I'll get around to the second one eventually. It really didn't interfere with anything else and felt like a very natural add-on to the wild west apocalypse that is New Vegas.

Monicro
Oct 21, 2010

And you could feel his features in the air
A wide smile and perfect hair
He had complete control of the rising tides
And a medicine bag hanging at his side

In the flowing blue world of the death-dealing physician

rossmum posted:

e/ A little creche of golden geckos has taken up residence in the Highway 95 Viper's Encampment. Welp, that's one less thing for me to clear out, thanks lil buddies :buddy:

Haha, that happened to me too once. I fast traveled there and bam, all out war going on. I just stood back and let them fight it out cause gently caress yeah Radiant AI (the geckos won).

Sam.
Jan 1, 2009

"I thought we had something, Shepard. Something real."
:qq:

Chairman Mao posted:

Edit: Haha, Vault City was sent 100 water chips by mistake. The entire first two games would never have happened if it wasn't for a shipping error.

It was pretty strongly implied that it wasn't an error, Vault 13 was designed to fail, just like most other vaults, though I can't remember where they said that specifically.

Lord Chumley
May 14, 2007

Embrace your destiny.

Sam. posted:

It was pretty strongly implied that it wasn't an error, Vault 13 was designed to fail, just like most other vaults, though I can't remember where they said that specifically.

Here's a list of the Vaults and what they were designed for.

quote:

Vault 13 - Intended to stay closed for 200 years as a study of prolonged isolation, the broken water chip forced the Overseer to improvise and use the Vault Dweller as a pawn. Later study of the Vault 13 records by the Enclave led them to their current plan to end the war.

Positronic Spleen
May 5, 2010

AlmightyBob posted:

I only went into the one office and already blew up the cave, hope I can still do the other one
The goals are mutually exclusive. You're not missing anything remotely interesting in the other sector, but your only ways in now are stealing a key or following someone else.

antidote
Jun 15, 2005

Francois Kofko posted:

its true, i'm a major stockholder and my skill at video games is brought up at every meeting

No, rather I think that your attitude is pretty common these days. That's all.

rossmum
Dec 2, 2008

Cummander ross, reporting for duty!

:gooncamp:
Sandstorms and SLRs will improve any screenshot.



-The Courier WASTELAND AVENGER and her trusty companion VERONICA SANTANGELO scour the Sunset Sarsparilla Factory's RUINED PARKING LOT for ANY sign of the FIEND MENACE-

(ED-E was floating a few tens of feet away as well)

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LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

That's not what the president says at the oil rig.

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