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LightningKimba posted:I actually never hated any of the P4 cast at all, rather, I find it a little weird to hate on anyone. Yosuke's immature, sure, but he's also a Sophomore in his class, and in the beginning of the game, you'd know he isn't going to be the brightest bulb on the team. I found him pretty funny throughout the game, and not once wanted to kick him off, since even gameplay-wise, he was useful for his jack-of-all-trades skill list. I'm pretty sure at one of the conversations at Junes during the late game, Teddie says something to the extent of "I wonder if there's someone out there just like me. Except he's handsome and gets all the ladies." which seems to be a subtle nod to Ryoji. So he could possibly be Yu's Shadow/friendly herald of Izanami?
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My problem is that there didn't seem to be a "Yosuke, stop being a cock" dialogue option. Also, even if you finish his character arc and evolve his persona and all that, the narrative format demands that he continues to be a cock. I just wish that solving your party member's issues would be better reflected in the main plot, but it's not really feasible with the way it's set out.
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YggiDee posted:My problem is that there didn't seem to be a "Yosuke, stop being a cock" dialogue option. This. Alternately a renegade interrupt style "punch Yosuke" button. I really wanted one during the whole "let's sign the girls up for a beauty pageant against their will :iamafag:" part. YggiDee posted:Also, even if you finish his character arc and evolve his persona and all that, the narrative format demands that he continues to be a cock. I just wish that solving your party member's issues would be better reflected in the main plot, but it's not really feasible with the way it's set out. Yeah, unfortunately this was one of the parts where P4 falls flat compared to the predecessor.
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Nov 24, 2011 23:45
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Schlegel Mach posted:He made fun of Kanji a few times and got over it as the game went on. IIRC the tent scenario was the last time it was ever mentioned. There was also the part with the topsicles! I kept Yosuke in my party because team BRO is the best party, but after I grinded a while at the end my final party was Kanji, Chie and Teddie, because they're the best characters.
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vilkacis posted:This. Yeah. I gotta say one of my favourite lines was "Ohh, I see what you're trying to say. "Please beat the poo poo out of me, Kanji!"" 'Cause the dude was really asking for it. Yosuke can go eat a bag of dicks. He's a well written character, but he's a jerkass.
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vilkacis posted:Alternately a renegade interrupt style "punch Yosuke" button. I really wanted one during the whole "let's sign the girls up for a beauty pageant against their will :iamafag:" part. Then he has the nerve to get angry when the girls sign him up for the cross-dressing one in return. I was with my bro Kanji on that one - suck it up Yosuke 
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Spiffo posted:Then he has the nerve to get angry when the girls sign him up for the cross-dressing one in return. I love that Kanji just rolls with it and does full on Marilyn Monroe garb, while Yosuke is still kind of a whiny bitch throughout and didn't even try to have fun with it.
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So I decided to play Digital Devil Saga for the first time in forever and my god, this game is good. Like everything about it is just fantastic, the characters, the music, the gameplay, the character designs... leave something to be desired but the devil designs are pretty awesome. It sucks that this game is never getting an HD release because boy would I buy the crap out of that.
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Nov 28, 2011 02:02
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Sex_Ferguson posted:It sucks that this game is never getting an HD release because boy would I buy the crap out of that. Pfft, we don't need no HD re-releases. 
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Nov 28, 2011 02:08
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Atlus could just re-release DDS1 and 2 for the PS2 Classics program. In fact it'd probably be a lot easier than making an HD remake.
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Policenaut posted:Atlus could just re-release DDS1 and 2 for the PS2 Classics program. In fact it'd probably be a lot easier than making an HD remake. I would be fine with this too.
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Nov 28, 2011 02:19
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The grinding and dungeon design killed DDS for me, thank christ for new game+ and even then I still have to deal with the lovely dungeons.
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Nov 28, 2011 02:29
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SMT3 is the best SMT game, probably, but DDS2 is the craziest one, which I thoroughly enjoyed (also the best soundtrack)
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Nov 28, 2011 02:30
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I'd buy the crap out of an SMT PS2 Classics bundle. Please do this, Atlus.
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Sex_Ferguson posted:So I decided to play Digital Devil Saga for the first time in forever and my god, this game is good. Like everything about it is just fantastic, the characters, the music, the gameplay, the character designs... leave something to be desired but the devil designs are pretty awesome. It sucks that this game is never getting an HD release because boy would I buy the crap out of that. The music is by far the best part about the DDS games, but I also think the cel-shaded character designs are absolutely gorgeous in the cutscenes.
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Nov 28, 2011 23:48
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I would pay absurd amounts of money to have Nocturne/DDS on the Vita. ...Or the 3DS, but that poo poo's not happening. I guess I just want every SMT game to be in portable form.
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I'd like compilations of the "before nocturne / persona" games with first-ever translations, but yeah that ain't happening
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Light Gun Man posted:I'd like compilations of the "before nocturne / persona" games with first-ever translations, but yeah that ain't happening I'm sure the PSP port of Devil Summoner 1 would have been localized if the port hadn't been programmed in a way that apparently made doing so literally impossible.
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gtrmp posted:I'm sure the PSP port of Devil Summoner 1 would have been localized if the port hadn't been programmed in a way that apparently made doing so literally impossible. I remember reading about that, and originally I just kinda took it in stride, but now I'm curious. How did they even manage that? How do you program a game in such a weird way that it can't be translated?
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I was thinking more like a pack with Megami Tensei 1 and 2 along with Shin Megami Tensei 1 and 2. Throw in If... as well. But then you get into "but which version" madness of course. "Impossible to translate" is usually just publisher speak for "would cost too much for us to bother", so yeah if there is a legit specific reason for why it's a technical impossibility I'd be interested to hear it too.
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King of Solomon posted:I remember reading about that, and originally I just kinda took it in stride, but now I'm curious. How did they even manage that? How do you program a game in such a weird way that it can't be translated? It's probably not impossible, but you start to get to the point where you need to literally modify the memory addresses of specific text to change single characters to letters. Plus there's the issue of monotype stuff and... basically what the guy above said, it's simply not worth it. For fun, look up the process that the translators of Mother 3 went through.
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Also the original Devil Summoner is a lovely game. And you know how in Persona 1 Portable, they at least took five minutes to update the interface for the PSP version? Yeah, they didn't do that for Devil Summoner.
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Speaking of Devil Summoner, whatever happened to the fan translation of Soul Hackers? Is that still happening or did it get abandoned?
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WrightOfWay posted:Speaking of Devil Summoner, whatever happened to the fan translation of Soul Hackers? Is that still happening or did it get abandoned? They're still working on it, the last update was in September.
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The Soul Hackers translation is more or less the only SMT thing worth looking forward to at the moment, so i hope they finish it someday soon.
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Technique posted:The Soul Hackers translation is more or less the only SMT thing worth looking forward to at the moment That entirely depends on whether or not Kanji's S.Link is fully voiced in P4 Vita.
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gtrmp posted:That entirely depends on whether or not Kanji's S.Link is fully voiced in P4 Vita. Persona 4 The Golden has "expanded spoken lines" so it's entirely possible that it will be.
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Technique posted:Is there even any new SMT poo poo on the horizon that ISN'T related to Persona 4? Devil Survivor 2's localization!  v 
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^  Technique posted:Is there even any new SMT poo poo on the horizon that ISN'T related to Persona 4? Devil Survivor 2's coming out some time early next year, if that counts.
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Too bad they keep using that really awful guy to design the characters for DS, because otherwise i'd be a lot more excited for it.
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Neeksy posted:Too bad they keep using that really awful guy to design the characters for DS, because otherwise i'd be a lot more excited for it. That and it's set in a high school.
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Technique posted:Is there even any new SMT poo poo on the horizon that ISN'T related to Persona 4? Technically the Persona Magazine is also Persona 3-themed. Neeksy posted:Too bad they keep using that really awful guy to design the characters for DS, because otherwise i'd be a lot more excited for it. C'mon, don't be like that.  Just look at them anime titties.
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Those aren't tits. That girl has obviously stuffed balloons in her shirt in an attempt to float away and escape the demons. Goddamn whoever looked at that design and gave the go-ahead is the worst. Sex_Ferguson posted:That and it's set in a high school. And they put in a social link system. Game's basically Persona 3.
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And you all wondered what "Persona 3DS" was back when Nintendo announced that big list of games for the 3DS.
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Policenaut posted:And you all wondered what "Persona 3DS" was back when Nintendo announced that big list of games for the 3DS. Devil Survivor 2 is a DS game though!
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Schlegel Mach posted:Those aren't tits. That girl has obviously stuffed balloons in her shirt in an attempt to float away and escape the demons. They saw that they got a famous designer and didn't care. Seriously, the guy has done a lot of work and it's all pretty terrible in the exact same way.
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It's set in a high school? I thought it was like DS1 where you're basically running all over the city.
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The three main characters are high school students, and the game takes place all over the city. Only the first scene was actually in the high school, although I haven't finished the game so I don't know if you return to it. Regardless, most of the other characters are not in high school or even teenagers.
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