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Autarch Kade posted:Personally, I wouldn't buy something like the U2711 for $800 or whatever it's priced at currently, because when you're already spending that much money, you may as well spend a bit more and go for the 30" U3011. Then you get the most resolution. I would have regret a 27" purchase to be honest, and always been wondering how much better a screen I could have gotten if I had spent just a bit more. Personal preference. I grabbed the ZR2740W for $615 shipped, from an authorized HP retailer. The jump to a 30" would be at least $400 more, for an extra 160px vertical resolution. Add to that that I have no interest in eyefinity, and had a 3007WFP back a number of years, but found it to be just big enough that I was moving my head a lot when programming, and the 27" was actually a pretty good fit. But that's really just personal preference. The point I was making between the 24 vs older 27 is there is no gain aside from physical size by going to 27" and he loses warranty in the process.
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ToastyX posted:I'm pretty sure that's not true. What monitor doesn't have HDCP support these days?
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Alereon posted:The Detailed Specs specifically says it doesn't support HDCP. They would be able to easily disable it via the firmware and not have to pay the per-monitor royalties, so that may explain its absence. I suppose it COULD be an error but I don't see anything contradicting those specs.
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Just received my pair of U2412Ms yesterday. Even though I didn't catch the Black Friday sale, they're still amazing monitors and well worth the price. I can't believe I put up with my previous TN panel for so long...
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Nov 27, 2011 16:56
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SamDabbers posted:Just received my pair of U2412Ms yesterday. Even though I didn't catch the Black Friday sale, they're still amazing monitors and well worth the price. I can't believe I put up with my previous TN panel for so long... If you call Dell support they may price match they did for me, of course I called when the sale was on.
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I would, except I got them from Provantage since at the time they were ~$20 less including shipping than Dell  Also, 2412s look just as great in portrait orientation as they do in landscape. 
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Nov 27, 2011 19:02
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Ok, having a cisco phone at home is pretty awesome.
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I'm looking to replace my ageing monitor and I've been searching for a decent 1080p display that'll be great for gaming/watching videos. The monitors in the OP are slightly above my price range, I'm wanting to drop around £130 (about 200 USD) so I guess the size should be 21 to 23", could somebody point me in the right direction? Thanks!
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Nov 27, 2011 20:20
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If you can go £40 higher: Dell U2211H. £170. 22", 1080p, IPS. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dell-U2211-Widescreen-Panel-Monitor/dp/B003R7K32S/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1322429622&sr=8-4 I have 3 of the U2311H's, the 23" model. They are fantastic.
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Nov 27, 2011 22:35
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I'm looking for a monitor about 21-23 inches with 1920 x 1200 or 1920 x 1080 native resolution and wide viewing angles and a glossy coating. Does such a monitor exist for about $200? If not I can go with a TN panel I guess.
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Nov 27, 2011 23:30
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Isurion posted:I'm looking for a monitor about 21-23 inches with 1920 x 1200 or 1920 x 1080 native resolution and wide viewing angles and a glossy coating. Does such a monitor exist for about $200? If not I can go with a TN panel I guess. Take a look at this? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236122
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You're not going to find a glossy monitor outside of an Apple Cinema display. You can't even go with a TN panel either because nobody makes such a thing. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure they're the only ones. The monitor posted above is a good deal if you want an IPS panel for under $200, but I believe only the bezel is glossy, not the display itself.
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Isurion posted:I'm looking for a monitor about 21-23 inches with 1920 x 1200 or 1920 x 1080 native resolution and wide viewing angles and a glossy coating. Does such a monitor exist for about $200? If not I can go with a TN panel I guess. If you're not displaying your monitor as a work of art, there is literally no advantage to a glossy coating. Colors are off, more eye strain, and barely visible if any light shines on it.
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MeruFM posted:If you're not displaying your monitor as a work of art, there is literally no advantage to a glossy coating. Colors are off, more eye strain, and barely visible if any light shines on it.
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Nov 28, 2011 06:16
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Yeah, I have a glossy screen on my laptop and I really like the way it looks but if they're that hard to find I'll probably just go with a matte one. Thanks everyone.
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The 2412 is back on sale! Does anyone have a stacking coupon?
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Steakandchips posted:If you can go £40 higher: Dell U2211H. £170. 22", 1080p, IPS. I'll definitely check this out, thanks! Will the 8ms response time be okay for heavy gaming? (FPSes etc.) BurnBlackJay fucked around with this message at 11:22 on Nov 28, 2011 |
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Nov 28, 2011 10:24
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MixMasterMalaria posted:The 2412 is back on sale! Does anyone have a stacking coupon? Where is it on sale? I see it on dell.com for the same price as Amazon. Is the 8ms response time bad for gaming?
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Hamburglar posted:Where is it on sale? I see it on dell.com for the same price as Amazon. Response times are a meaningless number. Response time is supposed to be the time it takes for a pixel to cycle the color it displays. In theory it can tell you if your monitor will have ghosting, but in practice every manufacturer measures it differently and the end result is that you can't determine anything useful from it. In practice most monitor have no ghosting anymore (but if you're concerned you can read individual reviews). The number that actually effect performance for gaming is input lag, and manufacturers never release that number. However the Dell U2412 has extremely low input lag - I can't remember the actual number but it's essentially imperceptible. Crackbone fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Nov 28, 2011 |
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Crackbone posted:Response times are a meaningless number. Thanks. I know it's probably a question regulars of this thread are sick of, but I had to ask. I remember having a Planar LCD that had a 15ms response time and I hated it. The motion blur was very noticeable to me. It's also the reason that for TVs, I only buy plasma. My friend had an LCD TV with 5ms response time and I noticed motion blur. But I am really considering that Dell once I find out where it's on sale.
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Yeah, dell.com has the U2412M for $299.99. Is this monitor any better than the older 2405? I keep looking for an upgrade but it seems like the 2405 is a very solid monitor and even the newer monitors are only "slightly" better at best.
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Vinlaen posted:Yeah, dell.com has the U2412M for $299.99. Same boat here. I think because it is IPS its a big jump. Anyone here have the 2412 and do photo work? I'm an amateur photographer and do some paid stuff. Is the 2410 that important for me?
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The 2412 is a 6-bit panel with AFRC. The 2410 is a full 8-bit panel with 10-bit internal processing. Up to you entirely, but the colour is going to be more accurate and with finer definition (no dithering) on a full 8-bit panel; no way around it.
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Munkaboo posted:Anyone here have the 2412 and do photo work? I'm an amateur photographer and do some paid stuff. Is the 2410 that important for me? Also, any chance we could get a thread title change to something like response times are meaningless numbers?
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HalloKitty posted:The 2412 is a 6-bit panel with AFRC. The 2410 is a full 8-bit panel with 10-bit internal processing. What does this mean to an aspiring (but novice) graphic artist?
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DrDork posted:Also, any chance we could get a thread title change to something like response times are meaningless numbers? To be fair, the OP (which I read) seems very updated but still makes quite a few mentions of response times. The ms thing also makes a big difference if you play games with flat graphics (old consoles, Braid/side scrollers/etc.). I'll probably be getting the U2412M, regardless. Thanks, thread!
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MixMasterMalaria posted:What does this mean to an aspiring (but novice) graphic artist? Yeah, I do photo work (not very well), so I'm not creating colors out of thing air or anything but just doing minor color work and I'm wondering if I should go with the U2410 (I have 2 on my desk at work and they're truly incredible) or spend much less and get the 2412s.
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DrDork posted:Also, any chance we could get a thread title change to something like response times are meaningless numbers? Monitor/Display Megathread: Response Time is not Input Lag
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Welp, just jumped into the IPS world and ordered the 2412m. Hope it's a big improvement from my 2405FPW.
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Back from break, added DrDork's response time blurb to the OP. I'm going to reorganize the OP at some point soon after I finish the other megathread OP I'm working on.
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Just saw someone with a U2412m and a U2410 side by side at work, and they're a "color professional" and they're pretty much indistinguishable. Ordering the u2412m! I got it off Amazon for $348 w/overnight shipped because Dell was charging me tax and shipping and was actually $350.
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BurnBlackJay posted:I'll definitely check this out, thanks! Will the 8ms response time be okay for heavy gaming? (FPSes etc.) There is literally 0 lag. It's perfect. Get it.
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dunkman posted:Just saw someone with a U2412m and a U2410 side by side at work, and they're a "color professional" and they're pretty much indistinguishable. Ordering the u2412m! The dell has tax but if you get it from dell home instead of dell small business there's no shipping. Still hoping to find a coupon this afternoon...
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Was thinking of getting this for gaming: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1076208&CatId=1410 Plan to use a Radeon HD 6670 with a DVI connection. Good idea, bad idea? Edit: Mainly I'm asking if LED displays are any good compared to LCD/plasma. Farecoal fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Nov 29, 2011 |
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dunkman posted:Just saw someone with a U2412m and a U2410 side by side at work, and they're a "color professional" and they're pretty much indistinguishable. Ordering the u2412m! I'm considering buying from the Dell website, and even with the free shipping, it's totaling $330 with tax and an $8 "Environmental Fee". And then I'll have to wait 7 business days for it... Anyone see any better deals out there?
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okiedokie posted:I'm considering buying from the Dell website, and even with the free shipping, it's totaling $330 with tax and an $8 "Environmental Fee". And then I'll have to wait 7 business days for it... Anyone see any better deals out there? I dunno, $299 is the best price I've ever seen, and buying direct from Dell guarantees they will honor the warranty, unlike buying from eBay or the like. You know what they say, good monitors come to those who wait. Dell always hilariously overestimates ship times, anyway.
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I'm looking for a relatively solid 22-23" LCD for under $150, will mostly be for generic browsing/chatting and maybe some occasional gaming. This will be a secondary monitor, so input lag isn't a huge concern. Needs to be VESA compliant as it will be going on an arm. I'm just looking at some ACER models that score well on Newegg, but is there a default recommendation in this size/price range?
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Farecoal posted:Was thinking of getting this for gaming: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1076208&CatId=1410
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What do you guys think of this monitor? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009306
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themummra posted:What do you guys think of this monitor? I don't think there will be that much differentiation between monitors in the low end. It's a cheap TN panel so you'll get the same poor viewing angles as from any other cheap monitors. Given that it's 1920 x 1080 it seems like a pretty good deal at that price point.
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