Potsticker posted:I always figured the nine sides mentioned in that strip referred to: Well if you go by that idea, then how about this: Lawful Good - Sapphire Guard Neutral Good - Order of the Stick* Chaotic Good - Elves Lawful Neutral - ???? True Neutral - ???? Chaotic Neutral - Clan Draketooth Lawful Evil - Tarquin Neutral Evil - Xykon & Redcloak** Chaotic Evil - Linear Guild * = Roy and Haley pretty much make the decisions, and with Roy Lawful and Haley Chaotic, split the difference and call it Neutral Good for the party as a whole. ** = Same deal as with the Order, really. I don't really think it's broken down like that, though, since the "9 sides" strip explicitly puts Xykon and the Goblins on different sides, though the events in Start of Darkness suggest that Redcloak may just be fooling himself on that score. If you were to make Xykon and Redcloak two different sides, you'd have to move Xykon to Chaotic Evil and probably bump Redcloak to Lawful Evil, and of course there's the Inter-Fiend Cooperation Commission who are in play through the Linear Guild and average out to Neutral Evil. In short, there's too many evil sides to go with the nine alignments system, as much fun as it is to try and break it down that way.
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# ? Dec 30, 2011 19:43 |
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To clarify: I thought it was a throwaway joke about the nine alignments and did not mean to seriously suggest that the number of opposing sides in the comic mapped to said alignments.
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# ? Dec 30, 2011 20:28 |
Potsticker posted:To clarify: I thought it was a throwaway joke about the nine alignments and did not mean to seriously suggest that the number of opposing sides in the comic mapped to said alignments. I guessed, but as I said, it's fun to try and track those kind of things. It's why everyone and their mother has one of those Alignment Charts for their favorite characters.
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# ? Dec 30, 2011 21:42 |
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Potsticker posted:To clarify: I thought it was a throwaway joke about the nine alignments and did not mean to seriously suggest that the number of opposing sides in the comic mapped to said alignments. If it was just about alignments, why would the other roach comment that some of the sides haven't been revealed yet? We all know the 3x3 alignment chart.
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# ? Dec 30, 2011 22:24 |
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I don't think we can keep a track of the nine sides until we know what's with the world in the rift. It'll hide one side at least, either the Gods, the Dark One (having a hidden agenda separate to Redcloak) or the citizens of that world itself. Tiamat / The Oracle might make up another side to the conflict too. I don't think The Oracle is finished quite yet.
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# ? Dec 30, 2011 22:24 |
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When I was rereading I thought Banjo might count as a side as well. That might also play into the whole meta game around the snarl that is based on the Gods. I don't know how exactly but the idea intrigues me. Traditional Gods - Dark One - Banjo.
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# ? Dec 31, 2011 12:38 |
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Apocron posted:When I was rereading I thought Banjo might count as a side as well. That might also play into the whole meta game around the snarl that is based on the Gods. I don't know how exactly but the idea intrigues me. Traditional Gods - Dark One - Banjo. I will be severely disappointed in the final resolution does not involve Banjo in some necessary way.
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# ? Dec 31, 2011 12:47 |
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So, those are what--mer-goblins?
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# ? Dec 31, 2011 21:00 |
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Speedball posted:So, those are what--mer-goblins?
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# ? Dec 31, 2011 21:07 |
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They're all wearing amulets. Someone has a magic item factory churning out the good stuff.
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# ? Dec 31, 2011 21:14 |
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Nah, they're all probably just low-level clerics. Those are all their holy symbols.
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# ? Dec 31, 2011 22:10 |
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Those aren't amulets, it's the lacing on their shirts. They're just water orcs.
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# ? Dec 31, 2011 22:39 |
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Guyver posted:Those aren't amulets, it's the lacing on their shirts. They're just water orcs. Right you are! I missed those creature of the black lagoon ears
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# ? Dec 31, 2011 23:11 |
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Nice art.
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# ? Jan 1, 2012 03:48 |
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Speedball posted:So, those are what--mer-goblins? I was wondering if someone would ask that. Here's the official word. The Giant posted:The guys in Panel 3 are intended to be koalinths, a form of aquatic hobgoblin that's been in the game since First Edition. I'm sure they made it into 3.5, too, though I don't see them in the SRD (possibly because the unique name "koalinth" was deemed Product Identity).
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# ? Jan 1, 2012 14:46 |
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Wait what were the Hobgoblins looking for? Has it been mentioned??
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# ? Jan 1, 2012 16:21 |
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Danzou posted:Wait what were the Hobgoblins looking for? Has it been mentioned?? Xykon's lost phylactery. It's why they're still in the city.
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# ? Jan 1, 2012 16:26 |
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:I was wondering if someone would ask that. Here's the official word. They're not in the monster index so I don't think they made it into 3.5e. Surprised they didn't get into Stormwrack, since just about every race had an aquatic counterpart.
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# ? Jan 1, 2012 18:46 |
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Unearthed Arcana had both Aquatic Orcs and Aquatic Goblins, but I don't recall seeing "Koalinth" or "Aquatic Hobgoblin" in anything 3.5.
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# ? Jan 1, 2012 21:27 |
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I'm almost positive "Aquatic" is a template that can be applied onto pretty much anything. And if it isn't you just slap "water-breathing" onto hobgoblins and then you're done.
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# ? Jan 2, 2012 08:11 |
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Who What Now posted:I'm almost positive "Aquatic" is a template that can be applied onto pretty much anything. Stop oppressing my culture, you ethnocentric bitch!
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# ? Jan 2, 2012 09:56 |
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ZeeToo posted:Unearthed Arcana had both Aquatic Orcs and Aquatic Goblins, but I don't recall seeing "Koalinth" or "Aquatic Hobgoblin" in anything 3.5. Fairly sure they're actually in the generic Monster manual, but there's a picture of a Frog-dude on their page which is very confusing. And yeah, they're a WotC trademarked thing, so no SRD.
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# ? Jan 2, 2012 10:33 |
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Cuchulain posted:Fairly sure they're actually in the generic Monster manual, but there's a picture of a Frog-dude on their page which is very confusing. And yeah, they're a WotC trademarked thing, so no SRD. Do you mean the kuo-tua? That's not quite a koalinth, I don't believe.
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# ? Jan 2, 2012 20:04 |
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Reminder: It's been about 140 strips since we last saw the real villain
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# ? Jan 2, 2012 22:11 |
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Rejoinder: I really don't think I care, so long as Tarquin is on panel.
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# ? Jan 2, 2012 22:16 |
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Alchenar posted:Reminder: It's been about 140 strips since we last saw the real villain Technically, 86 strips.
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# ? Jan 2, 2012 22:23 |
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Alchenar posted:Reminder: It's been about 140 strips since we last saw the real villain Wrong his soul was seen in the last panel of the last strip.
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# ? Jan 2, 2012 23:00 |
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run DNC posted:Wrong his soul was seen in the last panel of the last strip. His soul's not in it unless his body's been destroyed. At least, that's what he claimed in SoD - I don't know the actual D&D rules.
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# ? Jan 2, 2012 23:30 |
Zetetica posted:His soul's not in it unless his body's been destroyed. At least, that's what he claimed in SoD - I don't know the actual D&D rules. That is in the rules. Smash the phylactery without him dead...well, destroyed, I guess...and he can make a new one, albeit at great expense and several weeks of spellcasting.
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# ? Jan 2, 2012 23:33 |
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jng2058 posted:That is in the rules. Smash the phylactery without him dead...well, destroyed, I guess...and he can make a new one, albeit at great expense and several weeks of spellcasting.
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# ? Jan 3, 2012 10:49 |
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Well I'm hoping that we're about to find out what Xykon's been doing off screen (and away from the goblins) all this time, and I hope the answer is 'I know where Girard's Gate is'.
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# ? Jan 3, 2012 11:04 |
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It's either going to be that, or: "I know who the winner is in this fighting tournament I organized among all the zombified members of the Sapphire Guard." Cut to a panel of a bunch of zombies dressed up like Street Fighter characters.
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# ? Jan 3, 2012 16:00 |
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Alchenar posted:Well I'm hoping that we're about to find out what Xykon's been doing off screen (and away from the goblins) all this time, and I hope the answer is 'I know where Girard's Gate is'.
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# ? Jan 3, 2012 19:52 |
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Danzou posted:Girard gave the true coordinates to Serini, and Xykon has her diary. So probably. Actually that makes me pause; Xykon disappeared for a reason, and Rich is better at plotwriting for that reason to be 'do something I didn't need to disappear to do'.
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# ? Jan 3, 2012 21:41 |
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As I posted above, one of the things Xykon did in his absence was to visit the Oracle - who was out.
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# ? Jan 4, 2012 03:48 |
Stabbey_the_Clown posted:As I posted above, one of the things Xykon did in his absence was to visit the Oracle - who was out. Presumably because he saw Xykon coming and got a vision of what would happen if the Big X got the advice he was after. I'm guessing that getting it would have been bad for the world, or for the Oracle personally, so he deftly avoided the issue.
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# ? Jan 4, 2012 03:56 |
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:As I posted above, one of the things Xykon did in his absence was to visit the Oracle - who was out. The first two panels of the next comic are also pretty good.
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# ? Jan 4, 2012 04:38 |
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jng2058 posted:Presumably because he saw Xykon coming and got a vision of what would happen if the Big X got the advice he was after. I'm guessing that getting it would have been bad for the world, or for the Oracle personally, so he deftly avoided the issue. Could be because Modify Memory is a mind-affecting spell (obviously ), which undead are immune to? Xykon wouldn't have forgotten what the Oracle told him.
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# ? Jan 4, 2012 13:09 |
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New Comic: Losers Weepers I have to say that I did not see this coming at all. It's exciting!
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# ? Jan 4, 2012 16:57 |
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Oh no! Please have the next strip be what I hope it will be!
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# ? Jan 4, 2012 17:01 |