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Ball Stink posted:I'm terrified that this game is getting boring for me. I wish there was more to do than grind out equip upgrades and min/max pvp that is really not that good to begin with. Demon's? If you haven't played Demon's Souls, go play Demon's Souls. It's shorter and everything is slightly uglier (except for messages, ghosts, and bloodstains, which actually look way better), but it does a lot of things better and has a more cohesive storyline / awesome ending.
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I had THE BEST jolly co-op last night.  A couple guys helped me get from the staircase to the big castle in Anor Londo to the giant blacksmith. It seems as if they knew each other -- when we started, the first guy was motioning towards a summon glow. Each time I found a goodie, they cheered in unison. I love this community. We tried Smough and Orenstein, but didn't quite get it after a few tries, so stopped for the night. Now I'm stuck in Painted World... I was using a lightning spear +2 on the two... now that I think of it, bad idea? I have an uchi +10 and a Q's Furysword as well.
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Jan 3, 2012 20:24
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In other news, I can't read. I always wondered why the rings weren't locked on your fingers while summoned though, seems a little strange. More handicaps for the invaders!
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Jan 3, 2012 20:26
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BLOG KING posted:I had THE BEST jolly co-op last night. The way Ornstein crackles with holy lightning at all times is a pretty good sign that electricity doesn't faze him much, yeah. Either way, now you're trapped in the Painted World, so that's a whole other challenge at your current level.
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Jan 3, 2012 20:26
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Isn't Smough like still weak to lightning or something weird?
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Jan 3, 2012 20:33
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zachol posted:Isn't Smough like still weak to lightning or something weird? Smough is weak to lightning and resistant to fire. Ornstein is the opposite.
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Jan 3, 2012 20:35
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WalletBeef posted:I'm confused, I thought that's exactly what I posted. Maybe it was the "limited" comment which was confusing. In my situation, I rely on switching the ring when the "you are being summoned" message appears so that I can equip a havels ring. I run a 2H zwei hander build (grass crest on back), with the black iron set, my end is only 30, so switching to havels is necessary. What's your burden like with that set up? Are you also using ring of favorite in the other hand?
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Umberger posted:Smough is weak to lightning and resistant to fire. Ornstein is the opposite. Ahh no wonder. Thanks!
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Jan 3, 2012 20:54
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I finally started playing this torture device again and seem to have made some decent progress. I joined the Cat's Covenant last night but I read that the Ring Of Fog is pussified now. Is there ANY other benefit to being in this covenant? Or should I just join another?
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Funkysauce posted:I finally started playing this torture device again and seem to have made some decent progress. I joined the Cat's Covenant last night but I read that the Ring Of Fog is pussified now. People in PVP can lock on to you with the Ring of Fog now. If you don't plan on doing PVP I think it's still basically the same. The only other benefit is access to Shiva of the East. I think you have to join to get his bodyguard with the Dark Wood Grain Ring to spawn. Otherwise, no there is no reason to stay there. I was in it and then one of the friendly NPCs in the forest ran off a cliff which counted as a betrayal. This is a thing that can happen.
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Jan 3, 2012 21:23
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Shiva of the east also teaches you one of the coolest taunts in the game. Also the fog ring is really affective in PvP, if you're the host and not using something that gives you an aura. It's garbage for phantoms unfortunately.
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Jan 3, 2012 21:25
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Funkysauce posted:I finally started playing this torture device again and seem to have made some decent progress. I joined the Cat's Covenant last night but I read that the Ring Of Fog is pussified now. Well you can kill Shiva's bodyguard for that awesome ring of his...
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Brace posted:What's your burden like with that set up? Are you also using ring of favorite in the other hand? Yes, one ring slot is RoFaP, I switch the other ring to Havels, here is the character build that its from. This is something I just kinda evolved over time. It's a low level build. Final Gear : ======= Weapon : +5 Lightening zwei : 10 weight Armor : +5 Entire Black Iron set : 40 weight Grass Crest (on back) : 3 weight Total weight : 53 Notes : ======= With Havels (+50% max equip load) and RoFaP (+20% max equip load) (1.5 * 1.2) = 1.8 multiplier for equip burden. To be under 50% equip load (for better rolling), my max equip load would be 53*2 (106), but lets say 107. 107/1.8 = 59.4. This amount of equip load is available at endurance lvl 19, which is 5 more than the starting value for a Bandit. Starting Class : Bandit (Slvl 4, Vit:12, End: 14, Str 14, Dex 9) Points to equip zwei (2h) and equip armor: 8 (+2 str, + 1 dex, +5 end) Soul level after point investments : 4+8=12 Rings : RoFaP + Havels A vitality of 12 and a RoFaP results in 739 hp. Enough endurance for 2 swings of the zwei while its 2handed, fatal for low level players. Its just a fun build to screw around with (either be a jerk or help out lowbies in the Burg). With Mask of the mother substituted for the helm, you get a further 15% hp boost to 850, but your defense drops a bit, which might not be preferable. I mostly sunbro with this build, I don't know why, but I love killing griefer invaders and helping lowbies. Praise the sun.
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Jan 3, 2012 21:50
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Iron golem literally just slipped and fell off the bridge. Easiest boss in the game Also the heavy knight at the top of sens fortress has an insane drop rate for titanite shards Brace fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Jan 3, 2012 |
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Jan 3, 2012 21:54
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Brace posted:Iron golem literally just slipped and fell off the bridge. Easiest boss in the game I beat Iron golem last night, he just wouldn't fall. However there was an even easier boss that has a fall weakness. Hint, his name is an STD symptom. If you really want to know, it'sCeaseless Discharge.
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Jan 3, 2012 22:23
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Brace posted:Also the heavy knight at the top of sens fortress has an insane drop rate for titanite shards As a heads-up, the main blacksmith sells these for only like 400 souls, which is nothing at all by mid-lategame.
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Jan 3, 2012 22:51
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Polo-Rican posted:As a heads-up, the main blacksmith sells these for only like 400 souls, which is nothing at all by mid-lategame. He drops the large titanite shards that you can buy for 4000 (At least on my unpatched game) from the merchant in Sen's fortress. I think I'm finally ready to start learning the last boss now that I've tied up most of the loose ends in my first playtrough. Would you guys reccomend going for NG+ or just starting a new character for my second time around?
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 Scratch that, I seem to have somehow picked up 7 Humanity in my inventory 
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Jan 3, 2012 23:21
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Polo-Rican posted:As a heads-up, the main blacksmith sells these for only like 400 souls, which is nothing at all by mid-lategame. My bad, meant to say Large shards* I have like 70 regular titanite shards, but I have no chunks.
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Funkysauce posted:I beat Iron golem last night, he just wouldn't fall. However there was an even easier boss that has a fall weakness. The hydra in Ash Lake can be beaten by letting him chase you to the Stone Dragon. He'll walk back to his starting area, clip through the world on the way and die.
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Lork posted:Didn't you buy the repair box from the smith? That's kind of important. In hindsight, that is very important! I didn't have enough souls at the time and I forgot to go back though, so I'll have to make do.
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Category Fun! posted:In hindsight, that is very important! I didn't have enough souls at the time and I forgot to go back though, so I'll have to make do. The only good news for you is that the Painted World boss is entirely optional. If you can make it through the main level, you can get back out (remember, you'll be back in the room with all the Guardians, so don't die on your way through Anor Londo!) PW is also my absolute favorite place to assist. It is never not packed with people; I think the longest I had to wait for a summon last time was about 5 minutes, but usually it was a matter of seconds. Plus, there's an NPC Red Phantom that drops 2x the souls that the area boss does! It's also varied enough to be interesting, and you can bait Red/Blue Phantoms pretty easily if you want. It's basically perfect for farming.
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What's this Painted World business? Do you get kicked there if you die in Anor Londo?NOT_A_VIRUS.EXE posted:Thanks, that helps. It seems to be random where they pop up. I was in catacombs for the first time, someone spawned out of the ground right as I engaged some skeletons but waited until I was done with them to kill me... Given the difficulty of the game and the fact that you need to become human to kindle/summon help for bosses, I think invasions are possibly the dumbest feature. But in my limited experience with them I think your best shot is to assume that you'll lose in a direct fight, so instead just go to a cliff or something and try to douche the other guy into falling off. Anywhere else is just telestab hell.
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Is the Golem Set any good? It looks really loving cool but it's pretty heavy and I'm not sure which of the 50 heavy sets is actually good or just terrible.
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Gestalt Intellect posted:What's this Painted World business? Do you get kicked there if you die in Anor Londo? It's an entirely optional area in Anor Londo, underneath the rafters you cross. You will need a special item to get in the Doll from the Undead Asylum, it's in the cell where you start the game.
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Gestalt Intellect posted:What's this Painted World business? Do you get kicked there if you die in Anor Londo? The Painted World is a small area that you can reach from Anor Londo in the bottom of the large area where you had to fight a bunch of dudes in the rafters. Theres a painting there that you can interact with if you have the doll item(i forget the name but it frequently appears during loading screens) that you get from where you start in the undead asylum the first time during your second visit. Also, at least this game doesn't actively punish you for not being human like Demon Souls. OneDeadman fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Jan 4, 2012 |
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Brace posted:Is the Golem Set any good? It looks really loving cool but it's pretty heavy and I'm not sure which of the 50 heavy sets is actually good or just terrible. It's pretty good if you're a walking-tank build and don't mind wearing the Ring of Favor and Protection and Havel's Ring at all times. It's eventually outstripped in nearly every category, including weight, by the Paladin Set, though. e: though like the Iron Golem it has horrible lightning resistance, meaning that Ornstein will light you up like a Christmas tree if you wear it in his boss fight. Oxxidation fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Jan 4, 2012 |
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Gestalt Intellect posted:Given the difficulty of the game and the fact that you need to become human to kindle/summon help for bosses, I think invasions are possibly the dumbest feature. But in my limited experience with them I think your best shot is to assume that you'll lose in a direct fight, so instead just go to a cliff or something and try to douche the other guy into falling off. Anywhere else is just telestab hell. Don't listen to this dude. Automatically assuming you're going to lose in an invasion is just stupid. Yes, there's a lot of guys out there who do almost nothing but PvP and are geared towards it, but there's also a bunch of losers who 'want' to be big badasses, but who get their asses handed to them when they meet another player. That player could be you. Remember all those cheap ways the game uses to kill you? Use them against your invader. Run to an isolated spot that gives you a tactical advantage. Run up a buttress in Anor Lando and hold the line with arrow. Cast chameleon (just an AWESOME spell for counter-griefing) and bide your time for the right moment. Summon other phantoms to help you along, nothing is as funny as seeing an invader sprint head-long into a group of dudes waiting to trounce him. If you run around unhollowed, you run the risk of invasion. That's part of the fun. Assuming the other guy is going to win before you even start just sets you up for disaster. At worst, you die, which this game should have taught you how to accept by now. At best you teach some punk a lesson and steal his souls and humanity. I think that's a pretty fair risk to take.
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Brace posted:Is the Golem Set any good? It looks really loving cool but it's pretty heavy and I'm not sure which of the 50 heavy sets is actually good or just terrible. There's actually not that many 'heavy' sets, I thought the same thing till I checked the wiki. also no, Golem isn't that great, inferior to smough and havels, and you get black iron, smough and havels in the next short area. I still wore it as indeed, it does look pretty loving cool.
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Yeah, but there's times when your just waiting for your friends at a boss, and then you get invaded by a dude who three shots you with combustion and doesn't take any damage from repeated lightning spear hits 
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Brace posted:Is the Golem Set any good? It looks really loving cool but it's pretty heavy and I'm not sure which of the 50 heavy sets is actually good or just terrible. Stats wise? It's a slightly lighter, slightly weaker Havel's set with a lot less poise. Wear it for fun if you want - you can really get away with wearing any sort of armor you want in PvE, and probably some PvP if you're clever. Other than that, there's better armors out there to wear both as a set and to pick-and-choose from. To keep it simple: If you like it a lot, wear it. It's not bad. If you're more concerned about maxing out defense, go with something else.
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Brace posted:Yeah, but there's times when your just waiting for your friends at a boss, and then you get invaded by a dude who three shots you with combustion and doesn't take any damage from repeated lightning spear hits What a lot of people need to understand is that this is just another part of the Dark Souls game design. The game is basically saying, yes, you open yourself to phantoms coming into your world and helping you, but by the same token, ANYONE can just stroll in and mess you up. You can play this entire game solo, always staying hollow and being "safe". But if you want the potential reward of multiplayer, you accept the associated risks. It's one of the design philosophies I just love about it's multiplayer.
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Dog Toggle Switch posted:What a lot of people need to understand is that this is just another part of the Dark Souls game design. The game is basically saying, yes, you open yourself to phantoms coming into your world and helping you, but by the same token, ANYONE can just stroll in and mess you up. Yeah, I wasn't even mad about it, just kind of like drat that was bad. Also, on armor, Paladin Armor seems pretty drat good, but it's pretty late in the game as well? Are there any sets similar to it in Anor/Sen's area?
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Killed the Heavy Knight in painted world so I lay back and kept walking forward without looking at the TV. Walked right off the gap in the bridge 
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Brace posted:Yeah, I wasn't even mad about it, just kind of like drat that was bad. You can get a Silver Knight Shield, which is among the game's best medium shields, but aside from that, not really. Unless you want Havel's Set, which is the heaviest armor in the game. The Silver Knight Set is also available, but it's so-so and requires Twinkling Titanite to upgrade, and that stuff is costly enough so that you'll only want to spend it on what will last you a long time.
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I think I ultimately prefer Dark's version of life/death, but there was something appealing about Demon's version as well. The idea that Humanity (or bodyform or whatever) was really incredibly rare, to the point that one of the only ways to get it (short of killing a boss) was to invade another player and TAKE it, was pretty cool. Beats killing rats for half an hour, anyway, although a lot harder.
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Dog Toggle Switch posted:Don't listen to this dude. Automatically assuming you're going to lose in an invasion is just stupid. Yes, there's a lot of guys out there who do almost nothing but PvP and are geared towards it, but there's also a bunch of losers who 'want' to be big badasses, but who get their asses handed to them when they meet another player. That player could be you. I agree. Half the time I get invaded I one/two-shot the guy because he is stupid and thinks running up to a guy with a giant axe is a smart idea. Or you'll run into the pyromancer who uses firestorm. Dodge back, charge up and kill them. Boom. However, if the other person wrecks your world (this will happen from time to time) no worries, you can get your stuff back! Unless you die on your way back to it. Dark Souls. Category Fun! posted:Killed the Heavy Knight in painted world so I lay back and kept walking forward without looking at the TV. This is how I discovered one of the dropoff spots in the catacombs my first time through  Brace posted:Yeah, I wasn't even mad about it, just kind of like drat that was bad. You can find Havel's set in Anor Londo. I prefer mixing it with other sets, but either way it's super good if you want to wear heavy armor.
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I feel like I need to make a PSA regarding combustion at this point: if you don't want to get wasted by it, don't block it. I'd originally been saving combustion casts to free aim at people trying to stab me, but lately I've been burning down people who like to chill out with their shield up. It almost always leads to me either killing the person outright, or breaking their guard with the massive stamina damage and finishing them off with my weapon. If someone busts out their pyro flame, stay far enough away that you can use roll invincibility to avoid the damage, and don't let them catch you with it while you're recovering from a roll.
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The reason I'm actually caring about what armor I'm wearing is I have an absolute poo poo ton of regular titanite shards that I could dump into upgrading it.
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