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Ddraig posted:Siding with Joshua seemed like the logical conclusion to the story and by far the most satisfying, even if it was a bitter victory. Yeah, Honest Hearts is easily my favorite of the DLC stories because Joshua and Daniel and the Survivalist are such well-drawn characters and their stories are legitimately compelling. Plus it gives me one of my favorite video game weapons ever.
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Dush posted:Vault 21 stuff Another cool tidbit of this that only gets mentioned briefly is that House didn't just brute force it like he did with recruiting the tribals/etc. He used the vault's own rules, all conflicts resolved through gambling, and won the vault in a card game. And you just know he rigged the gently caress out of that card game. House supremacy 
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Caufman posted:I'm open to examining the problems of the NCR, but I don't see how you can solve them with fascism. When you next reply to my post, please try to answer this point. The fear is that the plutocratic/democratic government of the NCR is too interested in short term gains, and will jump on any and every opportunity to expand, as politicians can win campaigns by talking up NCR's glory, and merchant interests can buy senators to support a war that would expand their interests... but in both cases the expansion would hurt the NCR, because it's not controlled or directed. Campaigns would be under funded and over extended, as the people resist paying for the wars, even the ones that they voted for. This pattern, it's feared, will lead to the total collapse of the NCR. This isn't exactly stated in the game, but it's what I figured was meant by,"directionless and over extended," and you see evidence of all this kind of stuff going on in the NCR. The imagined solution to this is to make sure that there's a sense of responsibility and duty, and that there are leaders whose vision would be respected. For the record, I'm a huge supporter of the NCR. It's obviously the best option available in the world of New Vegas. I can still see where Caesar is coming from.
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Eiba posted:This isn't exactly stated in the game, but it's what I figured was meant by,"directionless and over extended," and you see evidence of all this kind of stuff going on in the NCR. It is true that the NCR is directionless and over extended, but I have doubts whether it would be an improvement to be directed and over extended plus bonus slavery and rape. When you speak to Caesar, he tells you that the best leader the NCR ever had was President Tandi, and I agree. What the NCR needs is another leader like Tandi, who motivated her people and built a republic more just and vibrant than any other society you meet in the Wasteland. However, Sallow is nothing like Tandi. Tandi ruled effectively with progressive values and the explicit and voluntary consent of the people. Caesar rules through fear and oppression, the bald head of a slave army. The problems of the NCR are real and significant, but I can't accept the Legion for two reasons: 1) The cost of a Legion victory, its brutality and cultural genocide, is simply too much. 2) The better solution is for the Republic to move away from hawkish imperialism and closer to the principles Tandi established. Caesar is the most expansionary and hawkish person you'll meet in F:NV. He started his Legion by introducing total war to tribes who had previously only known limited scale conflict. I don't think this is the kind of motivation that NCR needs more of in order to improve the lives of wastelanders. The best solution for long term growth is diplomacy and trade. The worst solution is full-scale warfare and a foreign policy which rejects coexistence with other nations. This is why I can't support Caesar's vision. Aside from the nastiness of rape and slavery, the NCR needs to learn to accept a heterogeneous wasteland with different ideologies for lasting peace. Introducing Legion values in a Hegelian synthesis is only going to make the Republic and the wasteland in general less capable of peaceful development . Basically, if you want to stop the military industrial complex that the NCR is having, I think it will be made worse when that complex is nationalized and legitimized as is Caesar's policy.
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I like how the one unique animation you gave Joshua Graham was endlessly clearing and inspecting the barrels of his pile of guns. That was a very nice touch.
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I like that, no matter what I told him to do, Joshua insisted on beating every last White-Leg tribal to death with the butt of his pistol. 
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Is there any easy way to check and see what's causing a lot of red exclamation points? I'm doing Lonely Hearts right now and all the Sorrows and Dead Horse tribals (Except follows chalk, inexplicably) have giant red exclamation points. I would assume their armor/weapons are missing hence the error but its really annoying. Don't know which one or if one of my mods is the cause. Anyway to check? This is my mod order, maybe it'll help: FalloutNV.esm MercenaryPack.esm DeadMoney.esm OldWorldBlues.esm HonestHearts.esm LonesomeRoad.esm TribalPack.esm GunRunnersArsenal.esm ClassicPack.esm CaravanPack.esm NSkies URWLified.esm ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm ELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esm New Vegas Error Corrections BugFixes - DLC + GRA.esm Lings.esm NVCE Main.esm NVR-Strip.esm NSkies URWLifiedDM.esp NSkies URWLifiedHH.esp NSkies URWLifiedOWB.esp NVCE DLC01.esp NVCE DLC02.esp NVCE DLC03.esp NVCE DLC04.esp XP_Slower_50.esp PipBoyLightx2.esp DarNifiedUINV.esp CASM.esp LingsPrettyThings.esp noautoaim.esp More Realistic Aiming.esp LFox Bottle That Water.esp Pop and Beer do not Dehydrate.esp UniversalPerkRequirements.esp NVR-NPCs.esp NVR-Version_10.esp NoMoreMIckRalphCrier.esp FactionIDCards.esp FO3WeaponsRestoration.esp old vaquero includes that gun.esp that gun holdout.esp Lucky 38 Suite Expansion.esp The New Bison Steve Hotel.esp NewVegasBounties.esp NewVegasBountiesII.esp Delay DLC - DM + HH + OWB + LR + GRA.esp NVEC Performance Of The Gods - DLC.esp New Vegas Error Corrections - DLC + GRA.esp NVEC The New Bison Steve Hotel PATCH - DLC.esp Total active plugins: 49 Total plugins: 50
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For the first time in a video game in a long time I am presented with a difficult choice to make not regarding leveling up or something. Thanks, New Vegas.
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Jan 5, 2012 11:27
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Infanticide posted:I like that, no matter what I told him to do, Joshua insisted on beating every last White-Leg tribal to death with the butt of his pistol. "I don't enjoy killing, but when done righteously, it's just a chore, like any other." - Joshua Graham 2281 *proceeds to kill entire tribe of people the difficult way because he can* Anyway Lonesome Road totally owned and Courier's Mile was completely ridiculous on Very Hard. Which of the two places that you can go to after all is said and done the easiest? I'd like to leave the harder one for last. Also I'm seriously considering doing an explosive/gun or explosive only run just because of Red Glare 
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RagnarokAngel posted:Is there any easy way to check and see what's causing a lot of red exclamation points? I'm doing Lonely Hearts right now and all the Sorrows and Dead Horse tribals (Except follows chalk, inexplicably) have giant red exclamation points. Did you do the "Verify integrity of game cache" thing in Steam? I had this happen when I installed Dead Money and that fixed it.
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Withdrawal Plans posted:Did you do the "Verify integrity of game cache" thing in Steam? I had this happen when I installed Dead Money and that fixed it. I had to do this with all 4 DLCs. Hell, you pretty much have to do this with all new releases on Steam!
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    Not really big on taking screenshots for the most part, but after modding up New Vegas I couldn't help it. A year and a bit later, I still think that REPCONN robot is high as hell. Faffel fucked around with this message at 13:23 on Jan 6, 2012 |
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Jan 6, 2012 13:17
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Withdrawal Plans posted:Did you do the "Verify integrity of game cache" thing in Steam? I had this happen when I installed Dead Money and that fixed it. Yeah just tried this, 2 files didnt verify but they were small. I even disabled all my mods except for the dlc, courier's stash and gun runner's arsenal and it still happens. It's just weird nothing is MISSING from them based on me looking at screenshots online. I mean Im sure something is since I wouldn't get an error otherwise but if I could just make it some unnoticeable item it'd work out. RagnarokAngel fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Jan 6, 2012 |
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Jan 6, 2012 14:29
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Ugh ok so sorry for the double post but I'm hoping someone can tell me a solution because this is a bit of a bigger issue. I got to the end of Honest Hearts but after the ending slideshow I am looking at a cave and can't move at all. I can't look around, draw a weapon or even open my pip boy. I can hit esc but can't save. I reloaded a save to try both endings, see if that would help, the problem is the same. Edit: Fixed it. THAT seemed to be the fault of a mod I was using. RagnarokAngel fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Jan 6, 2012 |
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Okay guys, I went to Vault 3 and had to go back because I couldn't pass the speech check (low charisma character), and then went back with Great Khan clothing, thinking that I could get into the Vault that way (since that's how I have gotten into the vault in previous games). However, the Fiends there are still hostile to me and I can't engage in dialogue anymore. Is there anything I can do to keep the fiends friendly with me, or am I forced to kill them all?
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RagnarokAngel posted:Yeah just tried this, 2 files didnt verify but they were small. I even disabled all my mods except for the dlc, courier's stash and gun runner's arsenal and it still happens. It's just weird nothing is MISSING from them based on me looking at screenshots online. I mean Im sure something is since I wouldn't get an error otherwise but if I could just make it some unnoticeable item it'd work out. Honestly, your best bet is disabling half of your mods and loading a save where there are missing meshes. If they're still missing, re-enable those disabled mods and disable the other half. Then, keep disabling / enabling half of that half until you narrow down which mod(s) is causing the problem.
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Anyone got a decent route/advice on how to get to the Abandoned BoS Bunker at level 4 without getting splattered?
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Tommy 2.0 posted:Anyone got a decent route/advice on how to get to the Abandoned BoS Bunker at level 4 without getting splattered? Cut across Yangtze Memorial > Sloan > Hidden Valley > Novac? You might have to run away from a couple giant radscorpions but there's really nothing between Goodsprings and the Abandoned Bunker (or areas south, if you stick to the roads and don't pick too many fights) that'd be too serious at that level. Bigger trick would be reaching there without levelling.
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Tubgirl Cosplay posted:Cut across Yangtze Memorial > Sloan > Hidden Valley > Novac? You might have to run away from a couple giant radscorpions but there's really nothing between Goodsprings and the Abandoned Bunker (or areas south, if you stick to the roads and don't pick too many fights) that'd be too serious at that level. Bigger trick would be reaching there without levelling. Thanks for the heads up. This is what I am currently doing, your route that is, except I have been venturing in to the wilderness trying to shorten the trip. It hurts a lot. :P I was able to do the Medical Clinic run at level 1, barely got it with room for only 20 more XP, but sure I could have done it better. Is the first DLC even doable at level 4? edit: Made it. This is creepy as hell. Tommy 2.0 fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Jan 7, 2012 |
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Democrazy posted:Okay guys, I went to Vault 3 and had to go back because I couldn't pass the speech check (low charisma character), and then went back with Great Khan clothing, thinking that I could get into the Vault that way (since that's how I have gotten into the vault in previous games). However, the Fiends there are still hostile to me and I can't engage in dialogue anymore. Is there anything I can do to keep the fiends friendly with me, or am I forced to kill them all? You can still talk to Motor-Runner while all the fiends and him are hostile, just use a stealth boy and just sneak up to him and hit talk as soon as you stand.
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In regards to Honest Hearts, I really liked that rather than the standard RPG choice of: 1. "No don't execute him in cold blood! Let him go free!" 2. "YESSS! KILL HIM AND ALL HIS FRIENDS AND BATHE IN THEIR BLOOD!" there were other options, including my choice of,"Yes he deserves to die, but not like this. Put a gun in his hand and let him fight." I know it wasn't technically the "best" result for the ending slides, but I liked that my runthrough ended with Joshua still willing to fight but with his burning desire for death and destruction doused, only fighting when it was necessary and not for its own sake.
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I really wanted to explain to Daniel how giving the raiders what they want just teaches them that to keep demanding things. I was disappointed to see "let's just give them the land we've always lived on and assume they won't follow us" treated as something that an otherwise intelligent-seeming person would propose.
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What, exactly, is the state of Europe, South America, Africa and Oceania? We know about North America and most of Asia is likely some sort of similar wasteland but what has been written about the rest of the world?Pope Guilty posted:I really wanted to explain to Daniel how giving the raiders what they want just teaches them that to keep demanding things. I was disappointed to see "let's just give them the land we've always lived on and assume they won't follow us" treated as something that an otherwise intelligent-seeming person would propose. They had always been raiders and didn't know how to live off the land like the Dead Horses and the Sorrows do. Basically Daniel wanted to gently caress off and let the White Legs just starve.
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chelsea clinton posted:What, exactly, is the state of Europe, South America, Africa and Oceania? We know about North America and most of Asia is likely some sort of similar wasteland but what has been written about the rest of the world? Nothing, pretty much, although it's safe to assume that they're also in a similar condition to North America. The United States was one of the few good places to live on the Earth pre-Great War, as it still had access to a decent standard of living, whereas Europe/the Middle East/North Africa had all suffered from their various decaying civilizations even before the nukes were launched in earnest.
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Pope Guilty posted:I really wanted to explain to Daniel how giving the raiders what they want just teaches them that to keep demanding things. I was disappointed to see "let's just give them the land we've always lived on and assume they won't follow us" treated as something that an otherwise intelligent-seeming person would propose. Well they do blow up the exit behind them. Plus, not eliminating the Sorrows means that the White Legs failed, so the Legion tells them to gently caress off and they eventually fall apart.
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chelsea clinton posted:What, exactly, is the state of Europe, South America, Africa and Oceania? We know about North America and most of Asia is likely some sort of similar wasteland but what has been written about the rest of the world? Only a nebulous statement that some continents "sank under the boiling oceans" during the Great War. You know, if the guys at Obsidian REALLY wanted to reboot, a game set in China or Europe would be a good way to do it...
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chelsea clinton posted:What, exactly, is the state of Europe, South America, Africa and Oceania? We know about North America and most of Asia is likely some sort of similar wasteland but what has been written about the rest of the world? Based on what I've seen in the Fallout Bible, nothing really. I figure its probably intended that way because it keeps your perspective that of your PC's (S/he doesnt know about the outside world, and neither do you). But I kinda would like to see outside of the US in the Fallout world out of curiousity. Course it also brings up the question why we dont have people flying or even taking a boat across the ocean semi-regularly by now. I mean it would be treacherous but if people did it in the 1500s they should have figured it out by now, and the enclave does have functioning flying vehicles.
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Eiba posted:For the record, I'm a huge supporter of the NCR. It's obviously the best option available in the world of New Vegas. Please, siding with Vegas is way better than joining with the hypocrites and incompetent NCR. Raul and Ulysses agree with me.
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Raul's pretty chill and doesn't really care either way. I like him best as a follower because he's seen everything and nothing can phase him.
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Jan 7, 2012 12:48
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Also he's Danny Trejo.
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I'm trying to do "I put a spell on you" and seem to have hit a giant roadblock. Before i was able to talk to Boyd and get the control tower key, she got killed when a bunch of legion people showed up inside the terminal. The other guy i am supposed to talk to told me about seeing a light on in the tower at 1am. I hung out at the tower all night, but never saw the light go on, and if i did, i couldn't get in anyway since i don't have a key. The key is not in the inventory of Boyd's corpse. Any suggestions on what I can do about it?
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Alpine Mustache posted:I'm trying to do "I put a spell on you" and seem to have hit a giant roadblock. The guy won't show up if you're actually in the tower, so there's your problem. If you hide outside, you'll see him walking to or away from the tower, I think you can talk to him and end up confronting him/find out what's going on that way. I'm pretty sure he also has something on him that you can pickpocket off him that'll help. e: but don't tell him what you're doing when you talk to him eating only apples fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Jan 7, 2012 |
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RagnarokAngel posted:Course it also brings up the question why we dont have people flying or even taking a boat across the ocean semi-regularly by now. I mean it would be treacherous but if people did it in the 1500s they should have figured it out by now, and the enclave does have functioning flying vehicles. This was brought up in one of the earlier threads. My favorite explanation for the lack of ocean travel was giant albino radsharks.
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eating only apples posted:The guy won't show up if you're actually in the tower, so there's your problem. If you hide outside, you'll see him walking to or away from the tower, I think you can talk to him and end up confronting him/find out what's going on that way. I'm pretty sure he also has something on him that you can pickpocket off him that'll help. I was outside the tower. I don't have the key, since Boyd got killed. Nobody showed up.
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Simon Draskovic posted:This was brought up in one of the earlier threads. My favorite explanation for the lack of ocean travel was giant albino radsharks. There actually wasn't a nuclear war, that's just a really popular urban legend. Fallout world just takes place after a whole bunch of environmental laws got repealed, all public funding for schools and utilities was diverted to the DoD, etc. The rest of the world is just fine and once people go out there and discover that of course they don't try to come back.
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Alpine Mustache posted:I was outside the tower. I don't have the key, since Boyd got killed. Nobody showed up. I had a problem with that too. You can't wait until 1, you have to wait until about 12, then manually sit there crouched and wait for the person to come up to the tower on their own. It's a long walk from where they start at. v  vEDIT: Unless you already did that, in which case you are in fact screwed.
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Resurrect Boyd. Why were there a pile of Legionaries at McCarran?
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Resurrect Boyd. I have no idea. Right after i got the quest i heard a bunch of gunshots and there were legion people inside the building. Didn't notice boyd was dead until an hour later when i couldn't find her anywhere. then I noticed one of the corpses was named. Whats the console command to resurrect someone?
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resurrect followed by their ID. Sounds like an assassination squad to me.
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RagnarokAngel posted:Course it also brings up the question why we dont have people flying or even taking a boat across the ocean semi-regularly by now. I mean it would be treacherous but if people did it in the 1500s they should have figured it out by now, and the enclave does have functioning flying vehicles. Never mind boats, we aint even seen trucks. There's a lack of vehicles in general but I kind of suspect that it's an engine limitation.
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