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Yo people Jens is in charge of Minecraft now. Notch doesn't do poo poo.
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Install Gentoo posted:Yo people Jens is in charge of Minecraft now. Notch doesn't do poo poo. Doesn't make Notch any less dumb.
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Jan 5, 2012 03:10
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Notch had to have done something right for you to care enough about the game to complain about it.
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Jan 5, 2012 03:10
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Install Gentoo posted:Yo people Jens is in charge of Minecraft now. Notch doesn't do poo poo.
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Jan 5, 2012 03:10
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Notch hit gold(heh) with the first completely procedurally generated, fully-editable, open-world game(3D data array or whatever). If he thinks he, or anyone, will come up with something better he is surely mistaken. Other games require content from artists, designers, etc. I would like to see Notch fight Will Wright, though.
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Jan 5, 2012 03:17
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All the game's interest is from the fact that it's Virtual Lego. Notch didn't come up with some inspiring idea, he took the idea of Lego, something almost every child played with and loved as a kid, and made it into a game, which was loved, and then he made it more and more like a survival game, which nobody really cares about ultimately. Yes, it makes it more of a challenge and gives you something to do, but would you say you bought Minecraft because of the great AI, or the wonderful combat, or the amazing hunger system?
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Jan 5, 2012 03:25
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The guy is just utterly delusional. The game has enough, nobody is loving worried about it getting some unwanted flavor from new blood being added to their dev team. We just want all the half-assed incomplete buggy barely working features they've continued to pile in to actually be fixed and/or fleshed out. Don't have these new drone code lackeys come up with a single goddamn new thing AT ALL, just have them finish the goddamn game now that you're calling it a finished game and charging like it is. Is that too much to ask? I even like all the new stuff, but it's clearly and blatantly not completed, and full of wacky bugs that need to be fixed.
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Jan 5, 2012 03:33
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I guess Notch did creatively implement a lot of cool ideas early on, so he deserves at least that even if many of them were taken from other games/places (there actually were a few "lego" games that preceded Minecraft, just none of them worked as well, believe it or not), but since redstone was added it seems like other people have made all of the best contributions (even redstone repeaters was Jeb's doing, if I remember correctly). But, yeah, other companies can figure out how to hire people who only fix bugs and improve engines without changing a game's "feel", so he needs to stop allowing his ego to force him into a position of incompetence.
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Jan 5, 2012 03:38
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Notch posted:There’s a lot of infrastructure that needs to be done... How can he not realize that this is the only reason people want him to hire more dudes. My computer runs the final battle in Half Life 2 ep 2 with perfect framerate but I can't get Minecraft to run for more than 20 minutes before it starts to chug and crash. Hire four dudes, tell them "make it run as perfectly as possible and develop a real mod API. Don't change anything else." There, I solved Notch's problem.
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Jan 5, 2012 03:46
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There are many different directions that this game could go. None would make everyone happy. Welcome to the world of inadvertently successful indie games!
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Jan 5, 2012 03:50
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Fire posted:Notch had to have done something right for you to care enough about the game to complain about it. No one's saying that he didn't do anything right so go tuck that strawman away
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Jan 5, 2012 03:52
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Yeah he did a pretty good job getting featured in a penny arcade cartoon. Seriously though, what are the parts of minecraft that weren't derivative of other games? The only things I can think of are the cool procedurally generated terrain and, uh redstone?
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Jan 5, 2012 04:11
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a starwar betamax posted:Yeah he did a pretty good job getting featured in a penny arcade cartoon. I think pretty much everything he's added since the hunger system was derived from Elder Scrolls.
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Jan 5, 2012 04:13
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Blockland + Standed II
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Jan 5, 2012 04:14
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PalmTreeFun posted:I think pretty much everything he's added since the hunger system was derived from Elder Scrolls. Perhaps out of spite from the whole scrolls debacle 
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Jan 5, 2012 04:14
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Dude is capricious/an indie dev 
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Jan 5, 2012 04:17
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feigning interest posted:There are many different directions that this game could go. None would make everyone happy. Welcome to the world of inadvertently successful indie games! There are still plenty of directions that would make everyone but Notch happy, though.
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Jan 5, 2012 04:51
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To be fair, the one thing I loved about Notch more than anything else hasn't changed since I started following Minecraft over a year ago- his honesty, especially on his blog. That's just turned from liking him sharing details about making Infdev and getting all excited about meeting Valve to loving the trainwreck of him trying sooooooo hard to prove how right he is, always, forever. He's my favorite five-year-old millionaire. 
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Jan 5, 2012 06:02
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Old Greg posted:my favorite five-year-old millionaire. This thread in a nutshell, or a wacky sitcom
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Jan 5, 2012 06:29
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So how long until Notch goes full-on Howard Hughes levels of insane? He's on the right track so far. Kleenex boxes, not cutting his nails for a year, constructing a giant plane out of wood blocks, the works.
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Jan 5, 2012 06:42
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The minecraft subreddit is so full of notch apologists its mind boggling. Somehow though my meme image of notch stating that quirks are great, and quirks are bugs still made it to the front page. I don't get it.
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Jan 5, 2012 07:37
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Elysiume posted:He still says stupid poo poo, which is why he needs a PR person. Mojang has a PR person*, though. Lydia Winters. You might know her as MinecraftChick. *(Alright, she's Director of Fun, but I think it's the same thing... Poor girl probably had no idea what she entered.)
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Jan 5, 2012 10:37
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No no, someone with actual public relations training. Not someone trained in baking pretty cakes in Lazytown.
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Jan 5, 2012 10:45
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Tw1tchy posted:All the game's interest is from the fact that it's Virtual Lego. Notch didn't come up with some inspiring idea, he took the idea of Lego, something almost every child played with and loved as a kid, and made it into a game, which was loved, and then he made it more and more like a survival game, which nobody really cares about ultimately. Yes, it makes it more of a challenge and gives you something to do, but would you say you bought Minecraft because of the great AI, or the wonderful combat, or the amazing hunger system? This. Can't agree more. Personally this is my experience of minecraft:
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Jan 5, 2012 11:27
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Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:This. Can't agree more. Since getting to play Creative on 1.0, I haven't played normally ever since. Combat is poo poo and I don't ever want to play with the hunger system. That said, if there were a RPG system with quests and such, I might return. But for me, the fun lies in building fantastic skyscrapers (tall boxes), castles (grey boxes out of cobblestone), mansions (other boxes) and pyramids (not boxes.)
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Jan 5, 2012 11:33
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Iacen posted:and pyramids (not boxes.) Half a tilted box.
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Jan 5, 2012 11:36
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Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:Personally this is my experience of minecraft: This would be my personal experience:
No lie, I have stopped bothering playing Minecraft in both Survival and Creative modes. Survival is tedious because there's nothing for me to do but grind for the same three or four resources. Creative is a complete no-go because I have no reason to create anything, and I don't want to spend hours doing it by hand anyway. I still hold out hope that the game will progress to the point where I find it fun to play, but right now that looks like it'll be because of a mod, not anything that Mojang are planning.
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Jan 5, 2012 11:44
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Fire posted:Notch had to have done something right for you to care enough about the game to complain about it. As for the whole "because it's lego" and "no one cares about survival" bit: I care way more about the survival and carving yourself a niche than I do about the lego aspect. Freebuilding is of course infinitely more fun than just plopping down premade structures, but for what I play it for, creative mode is pointless.
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Jan 5, 2012 12:20
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I like the game as it is now. I like feeling like the things I'm building and creating are earned. Sure, there's room for improvement (experience farming is soooo loving terrible), but I don't hate the fact that there's combat, or a hunger system, and so forth. But I would like if they continued to add things. New items to craft. New enemies to deal with. New biomes and realms. Maybe villages could have merchants that buy and sell items, some that you can't get anywhere else. Craft gold nuggets into gold coins to use as currency. Craft leather and string into a pouch to carry them in, or just fill a huge pit with them and go swimming like Scrooge McDuck. There's just so much poo poo left to do to expand the game and make it even more fun. Why aren't they making it more fun?
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Jan 5, 2012 12:27
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So new snapshot is out.Mojang posted:
I can't play now, can people tell/show what has changed in terrain generation? Edit: release later this month tinaun fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Jan 5, 2012 |
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Jan 5, 2012 13:45
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quote:Removed collision box from ladders
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Jan 5, 2012 13:53
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Those are all valid and needed improvements; I'm surprised.
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Jan 5, 2012 13:54
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Swamp biome transitions look a hell of a lot better now:
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Jan 5, 2012 14:07
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I wonder if kas has had any interactions with Jeb since he took over the helm. Perhaps some of the stupid decisions made regarding textures and graphics can be changed now!
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Jan 5, 2012 14:09
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Faraday Cage posted:Swamp biome transitions look a hell of a lot better now: Wow they really do. The only complaint I have with minecraft at the moment is that while we know they will fix and adjust everything eventually, releasing it and making it minecraft version 1 was definitely premature and they shouldn't have had a convention to "release" something that was no more finished than it had ever been. I presume it was just so they could draw a line under Notch's involvment and get on with things in a more structured way. I'm actually getting interested again now it's obvious they're starting to make headway with the fixes and tweaks.
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Jan 5, 2012 16:50
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Notch just hired the maker of Cube World. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jujKOju_MBM
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Jan 5, 2012 16:52
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tinaun posted:So new snapshot is out. Isn't it wonderful what happens when a competent developer takes over? Now he just needs to hire kas.
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Jan 5, 2012 16:53
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Tw1tchy posted:Notch just hired the maker of Cube World. Was coming here to post this. I really have to wonder what sort of input (if any) he's going to have on the further Minecraft development.
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Jan 5, 2012 16:57
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Tw1tchy posted:Notch just hired the maker of Cube World. But for what? For Minecraft or for another project. Because I'm not sure I will be able to sum up any enthusiasm for a new Mojang game.
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Jan 5, 2012 16:57
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Cephalocidal posted:Was coming here to post this. I really have to wonder what sort of input (if any) he's going to have on the further Minecraft development. Iacen posted:But for what? For Minecraft or for another project. Because I'm not sure I will be able to sum up any enthusiasm for a new Mojang game. It seems that he codes in C++, so I doubt he's going to be a coder. Notch also mentioned wanting to plug his brain into a keyboard, so I think Notch just loves his creativity and wants him to actually think of things that won't be useless. It could be an interesting addition to the team, since he does seem to know what he's doing. Also Notch said that his game will be unaffected, and not affiliated with Mojang.
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