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chelsea clinton posted:Never mind boats, we aint even seen trucks. There are vehicles canonically in Fallout (you have a car in FO2 for example) but yeah :gamebryo:
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Jan 7, 2012 19:20
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There's a lack of vehicles in general but I kind of suspect that it's an engine limitation.
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chelsea clinton posted:Never mind boats, we aint even seen trucks. What do you mean? There's a rusted out hulk of a truck in Goodsprings, and there are quite a bunch of semis around the wasteland.
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Jan 7, 2012 19:21
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chelsea clinton posted:Never mind boats, we aint even seen trucks. All those green-painted, suspiciously clean looking vehicles you see parked everywhere? NCR trucks. It's a game engine thing.
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Jan 7, 2012 19:22
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chelsea clinton posted:Never mind boats, we aint even seen trucks. Boats can be powered by wind, so it would be more likely to have boats before trucks. See: all of recorded history.
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Jan 7, 2012 19:26
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Alpine Mustache posted:Boats can be powered by wind, so it would be more likely to have boats before trucks. See: all of recorded history. There's like a billion cars with apparently still operational powerplants in FO3/NV, the technical understanding of motors and industrial technology on up to nuclear power plants is still extant in all the games, you see helicopters flying around all over the place, this isn't a reinventing the wheel sorta deal. The Queen Ant sorta demonstrates why you don't see a whole lot of big stuff moving around on the ground, regardless. Tubgirl Cosplay fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Jan 7, 2012 |
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Jan 7, 2012 19:40
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I wonder how many Vertibirds the NCR has back in California. The President has one, of course, but they don't seem to be able to spare any others for their Nevada operations.
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Jan 7, 2012 20:01
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Speedball posted:I wonder how many Vertibirds the NCR has back in California. The President has one, of course, but they don't seem to be able to spare any others for their Nevada operations. The NCR, I think, raided the Enclave's Navarro base and acquired the plans to make them. This is assuming that the Enclave took all their Vertibirds and headed east to Washington D.C. after Fallout 2.
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Jan 7, 2012 20:08
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I want to play Fallout but with whatever engine Just Cause 2 uses.
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Jan 7, 2012 20:33
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chelsea clinton posted:I want to play Fallout but with whatever engine Just Cause 2 uses. I want to play Fallout but with any other engine. 
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Jan 7, 2012 21:03
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Having a Highwayman again might be cool except that I'm worried that it would mean skipping past all the cool little things to discover, just like having a horse in Skyrim makes you pass over all the neat little stuff.
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Jan 7, 2012 22:43
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The lack of boats/etc never bothered me in Fallout because you could work it out canonically pretty easy, but it became incredibly glaring in Skyrim when I come upon a wrecked ship surrounded by a bunch of little rowboats (pirates attacked the ship) and when I'm given the task of hunting down their leader in some cove across the way, I basically just have to swim across instead of using any of the nearby rowboats  Though it is worth mentioning that there is, apparently, some form of sea travel in Fallout, as Moriarty (the dude who owns the bar in Megaton) crossed over from Ireland when he was a kid.
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Jan 8, 2012 00:50
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Wolfsheim posted:Though it is worth mentioning that there is, apparently, some form of sea travel in Fallout, as Moriarty (the dude who owns the bar in Megaton) crossed over from Ireland when he was a kid. Man, does he actually say that? That's... pretty retarded. It was always kind of dumb how he was just Irish, but that's Bethesda for you. The irony is that there's a Khan with a really thick New Zealand accent but ropekid said that's basically to be considered a bug v  v
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Dush posted:The irony is that there's a Khan with a really thick New Zealand accent but ropekid said that's basically to be considered a bug v It's not a bug, that one had a stroke from too much Jet.
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chelsea clinton posted:I want to play Fallout but with whatever engine Just Cause 2 uses.
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Jan 8, 2012 01:34
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Stuntman posted:Sure, let's play a Fallout with incredibly lovely mouse controls and no graphical options. An acceptable trade-off for vehicles and grappling hooks.
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Jan 8, 2012 02:36
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There's a big shortage on fuel, isn't there? That was one of the reasons nuclear war broke out in the first place.
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Jan 8, 2012 02:38
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SlothfulCobra posted:There's a big shortage on fuel, isn't there? That was one of the reasons nuclear war broke out in the first place. The highwayman in Fallout 2 used energy cells.
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Jan 8, 2012 02:40
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Re: Enclave, aren't their 'homebases' oil rigs in the ocean? I don't think they all up and flew off to the east coast for FO3.
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Jan 8, 2012 02:41
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Naky posted:Re: Enclave, aren't their 'homebases' oil rigs in the ocean? I don't think they all up and flew off to the east coast for FO3. We only ever saw one Enclave oilrig. Stuntman posted:Sure, let's play a Fallout with incredibly lovely mouse controls and no graphical options. JC2 had great graphics options. Watchu even talking about? I always wondered why FO3/NV had no horses to ride. Why can't I ride a motherfucking horse and shoot people from horseback?
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Jan 8, 2012 02:42
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I once wanted to make a Vertibird mod. Basically have specific locations where you can fly with the 'bird and have it "Park" there and also serve as mobile home. Then I realized you can basically cross the map in 20 minutes.
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Jan 8, 2012 02:45
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Fission batteries can put out energy basically forever, so I don't see why it would be a problem to use them.
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Jan 8, 2012 02:49
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Don't you actually take a boat to reach one of the DLC areas in Fallout 3? I do prefer the lack of vehicles though, otherwise you lose a lot of the atmosphere of "wandering the wastes". I ripped around the wastes already in Borderlands. It gets boring quickly because as someone said, you tend to miss the little things.
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Jan 8, 2012 02:54
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Faffel posted:We only ever saw one Enclave oilrig. I could have sworn I read somewhere that there were more than just the one rig.
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Haak posted:Don't you actually take a boat to reach one of the DLC areas in Fallout 3? Yeah, Point Lookout. EDIT: I should also point out that the trip from Washington DC to Point Lookout State Park is approximately 60 miles and yet it takes an entire month to get there by boat in the DLC. Earlier, somebody mentioned that Moriarty claimed he had come to DC from Ireland. Using Bethesda math, it took him more than four years to make the trip. 
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SlothfulCobra posted:There's a big shortage on fuel, isn't there? That was one of the reasons nuclear war broke out in the first place. Try counting all the things that actually run on fossil fuels in the Fallout setting, see if you start needing both hands Keep in mind those aren't gas tanks going up when you shoot the cars
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Jan 8, 2012 04:07
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Naky posted:I could have sworn I read somewhere that there were more than just the one rig. It's totally possible, I'm not even close to a body of knowledge regarding fallout. to my knowledge, though, the only one you actually see in a game is in FO2.
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Faffel posted:It's totally possible, I'm not even close to a body of knowledge regarding fallout. to my knowledge, though, the only one you actually see in a game is in FO2. I'm almost positive there is only one Oil Rig in Fallout 2, and there is only one Oil Rig occupied by the Enclave in the story.
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Tubgirl Cosplay posted:Keep in mind those aren't gas tanks going up when you shoot the cars Yeah, I found this out the hard way when I was playing my Bit-of-a-Bastard character and shot that Brahmin outside of Raul's shack. There was a car behind it and it exploded, covering the area with radiation. I didn't even realized what happened at first until I saw the flaming wreck behind the Brahmin.
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I think Bethesda made the atomic, exploding cars because, atomic exploding cars are fun. That's kind of how Bethesda works. If a game feature can get a "haha" out of somebody, everything else will take kind of a backseat. I wonder in what new and exciting ways they'll slaughter the Universe with FO4. The writing of Skyrim somehow doesn't fill me with confidence.
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Tewratomeh posted:Yeah, I found this out the hard way when I was playing my Bit-of-a-Bastard character and shot that Brahmin outside of Raul's shack. There was a car behind it and it exploded, covering the area with radiation. I take it you didn't play FO3, where they're strewn about the landscape like a goddamn atomic minefield ready to go off the second you run into a pack of raiders Only good part of that game Police Automaton posted:I think Bethesda made the atomic, exploding cars because, atomic exploding cars are fun. That's kind of how Bethesda works. If a game feature can get a "haha" out of somebody, everything else will take kind of a backseat. I wonder in what new and exciting ways they'll slaughter the Universe with FO4. And the whole 'war for oil' backstory exists because that's what happened in Mad Max and the original setting is just a long string of shoutouts to classic apocalypse flicks, what's your point Tubgirl Cosplay fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Jan 8, 2012 |
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Jan 8, 2012 04:34
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I took up the game again for the playthroughs I missed (Yes Man, Legion) and just for a gimmick character I went with a dumb as bricks super strong melee mook guy with insane luck. At first I thought it was just cool finding nice treasure in boxes and critting with every other swing of my boxing gloves, then I got to a casino and decided to give the luck a shot and  after a few rounds of blackjack I guess I can now afford every implant the nice doc lady has to sell.
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Jan 8, 2012 04:59
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Picked up all the DLC during the Winter Sale and I have to say the stories they tell are amazing. Especially Old World Blues. Gotta say, I really felt for the Survivalist, but Where the hell's his final resting place? I found all his logs, but I want to honor the old bugger's corpse. Another question about Dead Money, How the hell was Elijah going to enact his plan of 'wiping the slate clean?' He said he wanted to manipulate the Cloud and use the holograms and everything, but doing that would require leaving the Sierra Madre or getting cronies, which doesn't appear to be his strong suit.
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Jan 8, 2012 07:31
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The car in Fallout 2 runs on Microfusion Cells, so "the cars all run on volatile atomic power sources" is hardly a stretch.
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Maxmaps posted:I took up the game again for the playthroughs I missed (Yes Man, Legion) and just for a gimmick character I went with a dumb as bricks super strong melee mook guy with insane luck. At first I thought it was just cool finding nice treasure in boxes and critting with every other swing of my boxing gloves, then I got to a casino and decided to give the luck a shot and Yeah. 19? DOUBLE DOWN!
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Jan 8, 2012 07:52
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A Dapper Walrus posted:Picked up all the DLC during the Winter Sale and I have to say the stories they tell are amazing. Especially Old World Blues. As for the Survivalist, check around the Red Gate. It's northish from the Red Rapids Docks. His skeleton is up top the rocks with his final log and a spiffy rifle.
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Police Automaton posted:I think Bethesda made the atomic, exploding cars because, atomic exploding cars are fun. That's kind of how Bethesda works. If a game feature can get a "haha" out of somebody, everything else will take kind of a backseat. This is generally how games should work. This is precisely how games with a sense of humor, like Fallout games, should work.
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Fibby Boy posted:As for the Survivalist, check around the Red Gate. It's northish from the Red Rapids Docks. His skeleton is up top the rocks with his final log and a spiffy rifle. I wonder if Waking Cloud will react to that, knowing that their principal was a flawed man who had seen everything cruel about humanity and nearly fell into that void. Or does does that happen if she find the corpse?
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YOURFRIEND posted:This is generally how games should work. This is precisely how games with a sense of humor, like Fallout games, should work. But you don't understand the well-crafted, nearly-hopeless, gritty and emotive Fallout setting! Are you seriously trying to have fun in a game that's hopelessness defined? You truly don't understand Fallout at all! How can you play these games not not notice how integral the setting is to the game's themes!  *shoots up orc with power armor and minigun, impregnates crime lord's daughter then slaughters her family while trying to leave her room, kills the president of the USA with healing items while giggling like a teenage girl, talks to people that speak and dress like Victorian-era African stereotypes, then sasses a power armor-wearing soldier over a radio, casuing him to bomb your location with dragonfly-shaped helicopters*
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Has there already been a discussion on appropriate music to play in the background? I've been listening to the album this song is on and other country-ish stuff. What music would you guys suggest?
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Fibby Boy posted:As for the Survivalist, check around the Red Gate. It's northish from the Red Rapids Docks. His skeleton is up top the rocks with his final log and a spiffy rifle. The wiki has the final location precisely. It's worth the walk. Also worth making sure you got all 6 (final included) along the way. Survivalist is one of my favorite stories in all of New Vegas, and redeems an otherwise blah DLC in a big way.
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