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Shimrra Jamaane posted:All the mysteries of LOST became unexplainable the moment the island travelled through time in the Season 4 finale. We just didn't know it until the series finally ended. Prior to the island vanishing and the time travel the answers to all the mysteries could have remained grounded in some sort of "reality." How would reality explain Locke being able to walk again or Rose's cancer going away? epheneh posted:I still thing it's a qualifying contestant for Top Troll. I mean, the whole island was apparently there to protect a hole in the ground that turned people into smoke monsters. What the eff? And Jacob is King Troll, having no real purpose for having brought ANYONE there. Jacob brought them there because their lives were pointless and completely sucked in the real world. The Island gave them a purpose: entertaining us with their weird-rear end adventures.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Smoke Monster, dude. Eh, I could see what he meant. At least ground it within its own universe. The later bits of lost really got superman syndrome- superisland can invent any magical powers it needs to resolve a plot device. At least all the smoke monster ever did was kill people. No one ever hopped inside it and started time-travelling to past alternate universes where everyone is made of popsicle sticks or something. edit: Kull the Conqueror posted:Jacob brought them there because their lives were pointless and completely sucked in the real world. The Island gave them a purpose: entertaining us with their weird-rear end adventures. Fair enough.
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FrensaGeran posted:I'm honestly not sure how the show will be perceived when viewed as one complete whole with no hiatusii or mid-season-break-ii. I think it has appeal no matter what. I wish I would have blogged when I did my watch through. Having never seen it, when it came on Netflix I did the whole thing in about 3 months. I had a poo poo ton of fun theorizing anyway, even knowing that I could easily just look up "answers"
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I remember sitting in an accounting class in college right after the "Numbers" episode aired in season 1 and doing nothing but jotting down the numbers and trying to figure something out from them ad naseum. The show literally took over my life between the forums, blogs, entertainmentweekly articles and doodling 4815162342 in class.  I really miss you.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:All the mysteries of LOST became unexplainable the moment the island travelled through time in the Season 4 finale. We just didn't know it until the series finally ended. Prior to the island vanishing and the time travel the answers to all the mysteries could have remained grounded in some sort of "reality." They came pretty close in season 5 to explaining it all in a science-fictiony way. True, it wasn't real science, but it was all based on theories and hypothesis that have been put forward by scientists in the past. I think that's part of the reason why Season 6 sucked so much. In Season 5 it felt like we were going to get a scientific (albeit pseudoscientific) explanation for everything, but then season 6 changes gears completely and says "Nope, it was all magic." Some people preferred this, but I felt like it didn't fit in with what the show built the mystery up to be. If they had planned it better, they could have delivered a much better ending. As it stands, most people prefer to think of it as "it was all purgatory" because, at least in their minds, it all makes sense.
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Gianthogweed posted:They came pretty close in season 5 to explaining it all in a science-fictiony way. True, it wasn't real science, but it was all based on theories and hypothesis that have been put forward by scientists in the past. I think that's part of the reason why Season 6 sucked so much. In Season 5 it felt like we were going to get a scientific (albeit pseudoscientific) explanation for everything, but then season 6 changes gears completely and says "Nope, it was all magic." The only real difference between a magic explanation and a "science" explanation is the type of character who delivers the exposition. All the science-y stuff Faraday says is essentially magic, just with different words. Time travel, as done in this show, was magic, no matter what fancy stuff Faraday or anyone from Dharma says. I mean, is there really much of a difference, aside from the wording, between saying that the island has an omnipotent protector granted powers by the source of life and death (magic) and the island has a powerful protector who derives their power from the neutrino field generated by the core of unobtanium at the centre of the island that they are in phase with ("science")?
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FrensaGeran posted:I'm honestly not sure how the show will be perceived when viewed as one complete whole with no hiatusii or mid-season-break-ii. I'm one of the few people in my group of friends who watched the entire show. I had a lot of people either sneer in disgust or just asked confused as gently caress questions like "haven't they started time travelling?" "didn't the island teleport?" and similar questions because they didn't realise it was a sci-fi show, have no idea anything about the show other than they've heard that and think it sounds ridiculous. Of course it sounds ridiculous (and it was to some extent but who cares) because you have no knowledge of anything that has led up to it.
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Bobx66 posted:How and why did the beachcraft get to the island? The island moves to different places so maybe it moved to the South Atlantic?
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Faraday must've been on some seriously sweet Dharma drugs when he came up with his 'nuke the Island' plan. If it had worked, everything would have been fine for the 815ers, but he would have blown up the woman he loved. Sure, he would have saved himself the heartbreak of having ever known (and lost) Charlotte, but at the expense of wiping her from existence. Not cool, bro.
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Steve Higginson posted:I mean, is there really much of a difference, aside from the wording, between saying that the island has an omnipotent protector granted powers by the source of life and death (magic) and the island has a powerful protector who derives their power from the neutrino field generated by the core of unobtanium at the centre of the island that they are in phase with ("science")? I`d say the main difference is that science, even science fiction has a set of rules and logic. We have fun trying to solve the clues about the mysteries and we understand what`s happening to the characters. Magic (often) has no sort of internal logic. It does whatever it has to do for the story. This creates two problems as I see it. On a show like lost we were all trying to find all the little hints to solve the mysteries. We either feel clever for getting it right, or we`re interested in the correct answer. When they pull out some magic and ignore all the stuff that happened before, it can feel like there was no point to everything we watched and speculated on. The second one is more personal but I always get frustrated by watching characters deal with something we dont`t understand. Too me it feels like nothing the characters do matters if it just keeps popping up with new powers or the solutions just come out of nowhere. For example the Predator is pretty similar to the smoke monster. They both are largely unseen and unknown for a lot of their respective stories. The difference is the predator has an understandable behavior. We get the heat vision and cloaking, so we think Arnold is clever when he hides in the mud and out smarts it. With the smoke monster we see that it can`t cross the sonic fence. Why? Who knows. Why can`t it fly over it? No idea. How does drawing a circle with sand protect you? You know, more magic. What did the smoke monster end up being? A magic guy who got transformed by magic into magic smoke.
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Dr_Amazing posted:I`d say the main difference is that science, even science fiction has a set of rules and logic. We have fun trying to solve the clues about the mysteries and we understand what`s happening to the characters. Magic (often) has no sort of internal logic. It does whatever it has to do for the story. I'd have to disagree. What you're saying about why something in fiction being magic is bad is actually just bad writing. Science fiction is susceptible to the exact same faults. Just watch Voyager. There are plenty of examples of fiction where impossible things happen that are referred to as magic, but have an internal logic that is consistent. Conversely there are plenty of examples of fiction where impossible things happen that are referred to as science, but have no internal logic and are completely inconsistent.
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Gianthogweed posted:They came pretty close in season 5 to explaining it all in a science-fictiony way. True, it wasn't real science, but it was all based on theories and hypothesis that have been put forward by scientists in the past. I think that's part of the reason why Season 6 sucked so much. In Season 5 it felt like we were going to get a scientific (albeit pseudoscientific) explanation for everything, but then season 6 changes gears completely and says "Nope, it was all magic." It wasn't "Nope, it was all magic". The whole point of Season 5 was to show scientists trying to understand the Island, what they were interpreting its powers as, and how ultimately modern Science couldn't supply an answer for the "Magic". Gianthogweed posted:Some people preferred this, but I felt like it didn't fit in with what the show built the mystery up to be. If they had planned it better, they could have delivered a much better ending. As it stands, most people prefer to think of it as "it was all purgatory" because, at least in their minds, it all makes sense.
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Fickle Fascination posted:Faraday must've been on some seriously sweet Dharma drugs when he came up with his 'nuke the Island' plan. If it had worked, everything would have been fine for the 815ers, but he would have blown up the woman he loved. Sure, he would have saved himself the heartbreak of having ever known (and lost) Charlotte, but at the expense of wiping her from existence. Not cool, bro. quote:It wasn't "Nope, it was all magic". The whole point of Season 5 was to show scientists trying to understand the Island, what they were interpreting its powers as, and how ultimately modern Science couldn't supply an answer for the "Magic". I don't think the island is an island in the normal sense; a former volcano protruding the surface of the ocean to form a land mass. But more a giant pocket of EM pushing land above the ocean (when Desmond pulls the plug, the land starts to collapse). I think that's the general idea the creators were trying to get across. Ausmund fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Jan 11, 2012 |
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AASman posted:Nah, Faraday made sure Dr. Chang had people evacuated off the island before hand. Oh yeah. It's been over a year since I watched any Lost, so I'm a bit rusty.
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Steve Higginson posted:I'd have to disagree. What you're saying about why something in fiction being magic is bad is actually just bad writing. Science fiction is susceptible to the exact same faults. Just watch Voyager. That's a good point. I still think that within Lost itself, the science stuff made some sense while the magic largely didn't. As a side point it was really annoying that none of the characters seemed to really care that much about all the crazy stuff going on. The magic seems like so much more bullshit when everyone shrugs their shoulders and acts like everything is normal afterwords.
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They had clearly all broken down from the stress of it all and the others terrorizing them and seasons 4 onwards were actually their delusional fantasies rather than what was actually happening on the island
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Dr_Amazing posted:That's a good point. I still think that within Lost itself, the science stuff made some sense while the magic largely didn't. As a side point it was really annoying that none of the characters seemed to really care that much about all the crazy stuff going on. The magic seems like so much more bullshit when everyone shrugs their shoulders and acts like everything is normal afterwords. Yeah, it's not the fact that they used magic as an explanation. Magic can work well in stories when done right. Like Science Fiction, you just have to construct a set of rules early on and remain consistent with the new set of logic you've created. Lost seemed to always be rewriting it's rules, but it didn't really become apparent until season 6. Before season 6 the way the story was told made it seem like you simply gaining a deeper understanding of how things really worked on the island rather than contradicting what was said before. But, in season 6, that carefully constructed logic seemed to fall apart. The explanations we got just didn't feel like it fit with what they had built it up to be, and ultimately wasn't very satisfying since it didn't really go deeper into the island's origin and what it actually was. This is why so many people like to think of the island as purgatory, it has its origin already built in depending on that person's belief in the afterlife. And I disagree with the person that said the people who thought of the island as purgatory simply misunderstood the story. It goes deeper than that. In the arguments I've had with people who felt this way, it seems like they truly did understand my point of view, but just preferred to interpret it differently because the purgatory answer was more satisfying to them then the actual one that was given. Gianthogweed fucked around with this message at 13:27 on Jan 12, 2012 |
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Oh my god I never realized this before. This is a perfect example of fans doing more work to have Lost make sense than the writers. It reminds me of the time the American version of The Ring came out. For some reason a forum emerged for it and there were thousands of posts discussing nuances of the movie. In particular, one guy overlaid the main character's son's drawings on pictures from Samara's movie to generate a story about how she arrived on the Island in Washington. Another poster spent a considerable amount of time theorizing about why Samara's victims look the way they do- speculating that she essentially makes her victims look like she did (the same rate of decay) after 7 days in the well. During an interview with the film-makers, someone brought these issues up and the guys said they had never seen the website/forum. One by one they stated that everything people speculated about were simply accidental, to look cool or not intended. That's how I feel about the Lost ending. I've avoided saying it's the most infantile of all possible endings, but there it is. I can't avoid badmouthing it any longer and I wanted to vent. Reading through the old threads and seeing all kinds of awesome guesses for a finale- from a 'great game' theory, to scientific mumbo-jumbo, I can't help but think that the writers of this show, in the end, were just average people, who, while having moments of excellence, just simply took the easy way out- the, how many made-for-tv-soap-opera kiss scenes and goodbyes could we fit in approach to ending a one-of-a-kind series. Oh well.
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XyrlocShammypants posted:Another poster spent a considerable amount of time theorizing about why Samara's victims look the way they do- speculating that she essentially makes her victims look like she did (the same rate of decay) after 7 days in the well.
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:Not to be dismissive or antagonistic, but I think it's pretty much universally understood that that's what they represent. Distorted, water logged, decayed, etc. The makers of the film literally said in an interview "we just wanted the victims to look as ugly and scary as possible." They were specifically asked "was their appearance related to the way Samara died" and they said "no." That's the whole point, though. Lost is a show where people fill in the blanks and, while some things seem so obvious and intuitive, they were simply written in willy nilly- like the Youtube scene. Shammypants fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Jan 13, 2012 |
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Wow, really? Yikes. That's so weird, because I reached that conclusion almost immediately and I'm always correct in everything I do, but my view was backed up because I've seen discussion of it over and over. That's so crazy - It takes something away if it makes a lot of sense but wasn't intentional, so that's really too bad. Re: Your original point - I try not to watch/listen to anything with Carlton/Damon involved, because they spend all of their time deconstructing the myth. To compare it to one of the other "best show of the 21st century" nominees, when I listen to a Breaking Bad podcast, they go into so much detail about how much planning goes into everything, and how they try to tie up stories and reference past events etc. But with Carlton/Damon, they're so dismissive of the show at times that so much comes across like it was just a coincidence, or that they had no plans at all, or that they wrote something not because the story developed organically but because it seemed fun. So I do agree with you, is what I'm ambling around to.
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I remember the one theory that I came up with that I wish was actually the answer was the mystery of how the Black Rock got to the middle of the Island. Somewhere after we found out the Island could move I threw out a random theory that the Island had moved before and "appeared" right under the Black Rock causing it to get trapped in the middle of the Island. I kind of thought the real answer to that was lame, a huge tidal wave causing the statue to break from the ship?
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I want to avoid being too negative though, because I really understand that people love the show (and I still do, through the end of season 5). I just always loved epics. In political science, even though they are bullshit, I can appreciate someone who tries to put together a 'grand theory' of this and that. In literature, same thing. I spent a stupid amount of time one weekend when I had a horrendous flu attempting to predict my ideal conclusion to the show. Just connecting characters together took hours by itself. Then, when the show premiered it was hugs and kisses after hugs and kisses after staring off into the distance longingly. They spent less time 'bringing it all together' than some people on this forum did :/ In the end I feel like they chose a "big three" incorrect ending for the show. I remember thinking to myself.. "Please, just don't make it all a dream, or some stupid 'they are all dead' ending" and then blammo. Any of those endings would certainly provide some closure to the show, but would avoid really doing some legwork in regards to building the Lost mythology. In the end, I didn't 'hate' the ending of the show, but I felt stupid for putting so much time into thinking about where it would end up only to have them choose the easiest ending with the least 'depth.'
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XyrlocShammypants posted:I want to avoid being too negative though, because I really understand that people love the show (and I still do, through the end of season 5). I just always loved epics. In political science, even though they are bullshit, I can appreciate someone who tries to put together a 'grand theory' of this and that. In literature, same thing. I feel your pain. Expectations is what made the ending a let down. The entire mystery of the island was like a story telling ponzi scheme of mysteries leading to more mysteries, each time upping the stakes and feeling like the ultimate payoff was going to be better and better as more was revealed and more questions were raised. For the first 5 seasons this Mystery was built up to be something amazing, and people spent so much time theorizing and speculating that it became impossible for the writers to live up to the expectations. I thought it was a good finale, personally, but I expected more than just a "good" finale from this show. Here's what I think happened. Way back in season 1, when the writers were envisioning how their show was going to end, I have a feeling they planned on having the whole island plot to be purgatory. The passengers died on the plane, and they were being "judged" by the island. The flashbacks to their pasts showed the mistakes they made in life, and the Island gave them a chance to make up for their mistakes. The first two and a half seasons seemed to be leading to this conclusion. In fact, I remember reading an early interview in which the creators said some of the viewers had already "guessed" the ending. It was the purgatory ending that many people still believe it to be. I think those plans changed somewhere in the middle of Season 3. They realised an ending like that would be too predictable and ultimately a letdown for what they built it up to be. Also, I don't know if they planned on the show lasting as long as it did. Seasons 4 and 5 expanded upon the mystery a great deal, introducing a lot of new elements, mainly time travel. They wanted to push the show further in a new direction, and it also gave them a chance to go deeper into the Dharma Initiative. It also allowed them to change up the formula and tell the story in a different way, with flashforwards instead of flashbacks, and it made the show more exciting as people speculated how this future came to pass. It was brilliant. And I think the show actually got better and better as a result. But the problem was they had strayed so far from their original plan that the purgatory reveal at the end simply didn't work anymore. You could hear fans already saying things like "If they turn out to all be dead, or this is all a dream, I'm going to be pissed!" So the writers had to change things up a bit. I'm not sure how much of the elements of the MIB, and the whole island buttplug and rebooting the island, was part of the ending, I'm sure some of it was. But I'm almost certain that the whole Flash sideways being purgatory, while the Island was real, was NOT part of the original plan. In fact, I doubt they had planned on ever doing a flash sideways in the beginning. The flash sideways allowed them to tie up the story with their whole "it was the afterlife" ending, while still allowing the island to be real. The only problem with this is that it left the island mystery ultimately unexplained. Although we learned about the island's past, and something about what it is, this reveal ultimately leads to more questions than it answers. We never learn the origin of the island, why it's there, and what the mechanics, or rules of the island actually are. It's still just as much of a mystery as when the show began. By having the whole island be part of some sort of afterlife, you don't need to have such origin stories. Origin stories are built into whatever the viewer's beliefs are. This is why so many people prefer to interpret the island as being part of the afterlife as well, because this interpretation explains the origin and reason for the island's existence better than the show actually does. Personally, I prefer the show's explanation. The island was real, it's just a weird place with a weird light that keeps everyone good, and a cork that keeps evil from escaping. It's a cool bit of mythology they've created. And I think if the show hadn't built up the mystery so much, adding layer after layer, this would have been a perfectly satisfying ending to the mystery. But, I expected much more. Perhaps they plan on a sequel series. Going deeper into the island's past and origin. If so, I look forward to it. Still, I'm cautiously not raising my hopes up too high that it will ever be explained to my satisfaction.
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Farbtoner posted:I understand that a lot of people like picking apart the mythology of the later seasons and find it fulfilling as a metaphor for gnosticism or whatever, but season 1 is my favorite precisely because it isn't bogged down with years of canon and mythology and time travel rules but instead is just about the characters and being tense and weird. This. Season 1 was some of the best TV I've ever watched, and seasons 2-3 are just mediocre in comparison. They were still pretty good though. If only they had finished there instead of ruining it with the last 3 seasons. Lost was about the characters, but by the end of season 3 they had run out of backstories and they needed to start adding new characters, time travel and other filler. By the end of season 6 characters didn't matter anymore, to the point that Jin killed himself to die with his wife ("My daughter? Who gives a gently caress!"). That was Penny's boat, Charlie. gently caress you  XyrlocShammypants posted:The makers of the film literally said in an interview "we just wanted the victims to look as ugly and scary as possible." They were specifically asked "was their appearance related to the way Samara died" and they said "no. Okay, so the directors or producers were dumb and thought nothing of it. That doesn't mean the guys doing the actual art didn't come up with that idea for the design. I mean, it was pretty obviously intentional. As for the vending machine, it's a major character dying right at the start of the season, and making a reference to a scene that seems to make no sense unless you read between the lines (In which case it works really well). Yeah, that can't be a coincidence. Elman fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Jan 14, 2012 |
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Gianthogweed posted:I have a feeling they planned on having the whole island plot to be purgatory. The passengers died on the plane, and they were being "judged" by the island. I think you make a great point, and they still managed to get some of the purgatory aspect into it. However I am contented with the answer overall. The show grew, maybe too quickly, for the amount they were able to explain in 6 seasons. But they came pretty close. I also agree with their reasoning: there was no character to tell that story.
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HanabaL03 posted:a random theory that the Island had moved before and "appeared" right under the Black Rock causing it to get trapped in the middle of the Island. Am I the only person who thinks when they said "move" the island it meant basically the same thing as time traveling the bunnies, and didn't refer to geographical location at all? That was sort of the point of the Orchid video Locke watched right before Ben "moved" the island. Faraday's mom said the island was always moving, but that wouldn't make it invisible to the outside world.
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Bobx66 posted:I think you make a great point, and they still managed to get some of the purgatory aspect into it. Well, they're the writers. They could have written in a character who could have told that story. I don't think they planned it well enough, or they just ran out of time to tell the whole story. I wonder how different it would have been had Season 4 been a full season. One of the things that annoyed me was when they said that the viewers SAY they want answers, when actually they don't. I think they said it in defense of their MIB/Jacob origin episode. They forget that some of the best moments in the show during the first five seasons were when answers to mysteries were revealed. True most of them led to knew mysteries, but often times they didn't, and it was always great when a reveal to a mystery actually connected to another one, and it was always rewarding to connect the dots and piece the mysteries together. Look at Sherlock Holmes, the mystery reveal is always the best part, not so much because the solution itself is interesting, but in the way the mystery is revealed. It's always fun and rewarding seeing how the pieces fit together, and how Holmes managed to figure it out. Yes, Lost is about the characters. But it was the mystery that kept us hooked. They ultimately treated answering the mysteries they set up to keep us hooked as unimportant. Revealing the mysteries deserved more attention than it got. If the solution to the mysteries tied up the loose ends, and were told in a way that was engaging it could have blown our minds and would have been the best episodes of Lost. Season 6 didn't quite manage to do that, at least for me. They probably needed another season to pull this off, and they, of course, would have had to stop resolving mysteries with more mysteries, something I think they found it very difficult to do. Gianthogweed fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Jan 14, 2012 |
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My take on it: I think the writers kinda knew where they were going, but probably second-guessed themselves. For one, there's this: http://youtu.be/Fi2Ur_PiiRo?t=4m12s ...From the ATAS panel discussion. Note - Lindelof is talking about Ana Lucia's character, a completely unrelated point, when he veers towards the subject of course correction and blurts out that "the Island is a big spaceship!". Some have brushed it off as "Oh, that's their humor". I counter - watch this again. Lindelof was talking about a completely different subject and obviously engrossed in what he's saying, and kind of goes off on a tangent when he says this - there's no build-up like there would be if he had been joking about it. Note also - as soon as he says it, he gives a brief look like: "Oh poo poo". Plus, the next few minutes afterward seem awkward as hell. With Lindelof blabbering on about "David Copperfield has a twin..." What the poo poo? I do think that was what they were building towards. It makes perfect sense up until around the middle of Season 4, then things seem to turn course. Plus, there's the throwback to the Pilot - when Walt is reading the comic book. One page the polar bear is shown. The next, you see a spaceship with what looks like "a castle on a glass dome in the ocean" (not my wording, but Lost Pedia's) Click for Pic Which actually, would have been a cool idea for the finale, plus explain the electromagnetism, the donkey wheel, and just about every weird thing that's happened on the island. For me, this beats the hell out of the "It's Magic!" hand wave. If done right, I think it would have been really cool. But I think Lindelof really let the cat out of the bag, and they most likely had to change course because of it. I might be out of my mind, but this makes the most sense to me.
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Elman posted:Okay, so the directors or producers were dumb and thought nothing of it. That doesn't mean the guys doing the actual art didn't come up with that idea for the design. I mean, it was pretty obviously intentional. Plus, honestly (in the matter of the Ring, Lost, and any other fictional work), what does it matter if it's intentional or not? If it makes sense in the context of the work, then it's completely valid, even if the creators didn't intend it. If it's good enough for literary theory, it's good enough for other media. Death of the author and all that.
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Use Less posted:My take on it: I think the writers kinda knew where they were going, but probably second-guessed themselves. You have a hard time reading humor, dude
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I was reading through that Back To the Island blog for season 1, and there were some things I totally forgot. Including that after Claire goes missing people just don't seem to give a poo poo about finding her. Charlie sort of stews over it but that's it. It's nice to see they continued that tradition later on in the show and didn't give a poo poo when she went missing for the second time. Second is after I watched the pilot again, our introduction to Michael is him screaming 'Waaaaaaaalt', which is sadly how we end up defining his character. Speaking of, his ex-wife is the cuntiest oval office who ever lived. The only way her behaviour makes any sense is if Michael had been an abusive husband and she's getting some payback. It's odd that though chose to write such an gross caricature of a woman.
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DrVenkman posted:I was reading through that Back To the Island blog for season 1, and there were some things I totally forgot. Including that after Claire goes missing people just don't seem to give a poo poo about finding her. Charlie sort of stews over it but that's it. It's nice to see they continued that tradition later on in the show and didn't give a poo poo when she went missing for the second time. At least she had her reasons, that she had a career and simply wasn't in love with Michael anymore. And remember, she paid all his medical bills when he got hit. The real bitch is Jack's ex-wife. She came all the way out to the hospital and couldn't even give him a ride?
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Soooo.... anyways some of you have probably seen this seeing as it is from 2009 but I am reposting it now seeing as DL has a lot to say in it in regards to Lost. Good stuff. Previously on...
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Gianthogweed posted:story telling ponzi scheme Best description of Lost I've ever heard.
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simonmoon posted:Best description of Lost I've ever heard. I can't take credit for that. The person who first said it was Ron Bennington of the Ron and Fez show right after the finale aired. Love that line.
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