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Naky
May 30, 2001

Resident Crackhead

Someguy posted:

Nope, discovered every location. Fact is most of them are simply throw away map markers usually small shacks full of tin cans and a bed. Certainly nothing worth visiting twice.

Yeah, sad but true. Someone should do an FNV Expanded type mod to make something of all those very numerous but ultimately worthless map markers.

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J Bjelke-Postersen
Sep 16, 2007

I have a 6 point plan to stop the boats.....or turn them around or something....No wait what were those points again....Are there really 6?

Naky posted:

Yeah, sad but true. Someone should do an FNV Expanded type mod to make something of all those very numerous but ultimately worthless map markers.

I just used most of them as fast travel waypoints. They're not entirely useless.

I do wish there were a few more tense parts where you approach a building with no idea what the hell might be inside/around the edges. Stuff that you expect to read in The Road. That's my favourite part of Fallout.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

I'd like to meet Mr. Bishop in the games sometime, maybe Fallout 4. He could be a background character or an antagonist, but he could potentially be a companion too, since we know that he likes to wander the wastes as much as stay at home in New Reno.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Speedball posted:

I'd like to meet Mr. Bishop in the games sometime, maybe Fallout 4. He could be a background character or an antagonist, but he could potentially be a companion too, since we know that he likes to wander the wastes as much as stay at home in New Reno.

Mr. Bishop has given you the Perk: Goons

Crazy Joe Wilson
Jul 4, 2007

Justifiably Mad!

VocalizePlayerDeath posted:

I enjoy the freedom of choice New Vegas offers but its a bit hollow.I can reroute the Helios One power to anywhere I like but nothing ever becomes of it.It makes no difference what I chose if anything at all.You can freely kill anyone you feel like but it has no actual effect on the world with the exception on some passing dialogue about Caesar or House.

This is a little bit late, but actually if you reroute the power to Fremont/Westside, all the lamp posts around those areas turn on and stay on 24/7. It's a nice little touch I didn't notice until I actually started doing games with a minimal fast traveling as possible.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Crazy Joe Wilson posted:

This is a little bit late, but actually if you reroute the power to Fremont/Westside, all the lamp posts around those areas turn on and stay on 24/7. It's a nice little touch I didn't notice until I actually started doing games with a minimal fast traveling as possible.

Oh wow. I had no idea. I need to check this out to see if it's true!

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
It's like game developers said "woah, cool" when Manderly yelled at them for going in the women's bathroom, and then proceeded as if it never happened.

Dr. Gene Dango MD
May 20, 2010

Fuck them other cats I'm running with my own wolfpack

Keep fronting like youse a thug and get ya dome pushed back
Apart from having some trouble finding Westside I'm really enjoying the game. Either way I have to get a group and some great gear together if I'm going to take on Ceasers Fort.

Speaking of, after getting cash and completing her quest I am flush with cash. I bought her a new shotgun but I can't get her to equip it, even though she wears the armor I give her. I guess it's not good enough.

Cicadalek
May 8, 2006

Trite, contrived, mediocre, milquetoast, amateurish, infantile, cliche-and-gonorrhea-ridden paean to conformism, eye-fucked me, affront to humanity, war crime, should *literally* be tried for war crimes, talentless fuckfest, pedantic, listless, savagely boring, just one repulsive laugh after another
You'll need to give her ammo too, companions only have infinite ammo for their default weapons.

toasterwarrior
Nov 11, 2011
One last post about Honest Hearts:

Apart from the Survivalist's story, one of my favorite setpieces in the DLC was Graham meeting you at the Narrows.

Once you complete gathering the various Pre-War supplies the Sorrows need and deliver them to Daniel, Graham is scripted to move to the Sorrows' camp. If there was a time and place where a good, cinematic cutscene would've fit perfectly, it was then and there:



Thunder rolls as you walk down the river leading from the Narrows, raindrops spattering on the rusty red earth of Zion*. In the distance, walking towards you, you see a man in the driving rain.

You hear him reciting a passage from the Good Book, his voice echoing across the walls of the valley:

"'By the rivers of Babylon we sat and wept, when we remembered Zion.'"

Psalm 137:1. A poem of bitter loss and defiance, and the promise of righteous vengeance. He knows every word, and every word is tinged with both subtle anger and practiced calm.

Graham stops before you, and finishes the passage. He looks you in the eye.

"Do you know what it means?"

You do.

Even before he came to Zion, he was spoken of in hushed tones by the tribals of the valley. Even before he returned to the fold of the New Canaanites, the Legion and its godhead feared the return of the Burned Man.

The White Legs have come into Zion to pillage, to ravage, to despoil. Unfortunately for them, the Burned Man walks.

He would cleanse the valley with their blood.







*Is it me, or was it always raining in the Sorrows camp? I was beginning to think it was a Metal Gear Solid 3 reference every time I went back to camp to turn in quests and stuff.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

toasterwarrior posted:

You hear him reciting a passage from the Good Book, his voice echoing across the walls of the valley:

"'By the rivers of Babylon we sat and wept, when we remembered Zion.'"

Psalm 137:1. A poem of bitter loss and defiance, and the promise of righteous vengeance. He knows every word

He misses out verses 2 through 6 though :v:

toasterwarrior
Nov 11, 2011
If the Devil can cite scripture to his purpose, so can the faithful.

It's the rest of the passage that's important to the narrative anyway, so :v:

toasterwarrior fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Jan 16, 2012

resting bort face
Jun 2, 2000

by Fluffdaddy
I guess I need some Sneak tips. My level 5 character has 50 Sneak and light armor. I'm in REPCONN and, while sneaking, ghouls still become alerted to my presence instantly. I'm not even moving around full bore; I've got the stick tilted so I'm barely inching forward and ghouls are still like "Whoa what the hell what's that racket? Soles softly padding on concrete? Time to eat some humans!"

I don't have my Pip-Boy light on either.

cat with hands
Mar 14, 2006

When I shit I like to scream "WORSHIP THE GOD EMPEROR ON HIS GOLDEN THRONE." Mom hates it.

Defiance Industries posted:

Uncheck the DLC files you want to restart.
Load your save game.
Save your game.
Exit the game.
Recheck the DLC.

Then, it should be like you never started it at all.

Are we talking about the list of datafiles you can reach from the launch menu? None of the extras are checked to begin with.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Someguy posted:

Nope, discovered every location. Fact is most of them are simply throw away map markers usually small shacks full of tin cans and a bed. Certainly nothing worth visiting twice.

I don't see how that differs from FO3, especially since most of them give me the benefit of not having to fight (re)spawned super mutants every time I go by.

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006
Holy crap Tunnelers are painful. I'm in the caves of whatever doing Lonesome Road and even with flashbangs, even with a flare gun, even with a modded advanced LAER and modded plasma defender shooting overcharged MF/SE cells while doped to the eyeballs on psycho, slasher, jet, rushing water and turbo they're STILL a pain in the rear end to beat. Mind you I'm max level now and the distended DLC level scaling is in full effect...

The highway packed with deathclaws was an easy breath of fresh air in comparison to fighting tunnelers in close.

Beer Hall Putz
Sep 10, 2005

Unpleasent snacking
The Holorifle still seems broken as poo poo and I typically just slaughter them all with it.

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."

cat with hands posted:

Are we talking about the list of datafiles you can reach from the launch menu? None of the extras are checked to begin with.

How did you play the DLC in the first place if they were never checked to begin with? :confused:

Missionary Positron
Jul 6, 2004
And now for something completely different

Willie Tomg posted:

Holy crap Tunnelers are painful. I'm in the caves of whatever doing Lonesome Road and even with flashbangs, even with a flare gun, even with a modded advanced LAER and modded plasma defender shooting overcharged MF/SE cells while doped to the eyeballs on psycho, slasher, jet, rushing water and turbo they're STILL a pain in the rear end to beat. Mind you I'm max level now and the distended DLC level scaling is in full effect...

The highway packed with deathclaws was an easy breath of fresh air in comparison to fighting tunnelers in close.

I just played through the same part for the first time and goddamn. Poor ED-E kept getting constantly knocked out :( . But as Cakes said, once I realized that the Holorifle tore the little bastards to pieces it became a lot more tolerable. Even that elevator ride, especially once I got jacked up on some Psycho, Jet, Buffout and Med-X :v: .

Momomo
Dec 26, 2009

Dont judge me, I design your manhole

Cream-of-Plenty posted:

How did you play the DLC in the first place if they were never checked to begin with? :confused:

They aren't checked in my game and work fine. Maybe downloading the game and the DLC all at once had something to do with it?

Also another question, pickpocketing. I have about 80 stealth and no matter what I do, I can't successfully pickpocket anyone. Every time I try, they notice and take their 5 caps back. Is it really just blind luck?

cat with hands
Mar 14, 2006

When I shit I like to scream "WORSHIP THE GOD EMPEROR ON HIS GOLDEN THRONE." Mom hates it.

Eel hovercraft posted:

Even that elevator ride, especially once I got jacked up on some Psycho, Jet, Buffout and Med-X :v: .

Throw flashbangs, hit them with a thermic lance when they are down. Easy as pie.

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."

Momomo posted:

They aren't checked in my game and work fine. Maybe downloading the game and the DLC all at once had something to do with it?

Really? Weird, I never messed around with the built-in launcher once FOMM was released.

Going back to cat with hands, what if you installed FOMM and used that to basically do what Defiance Industries was saying?

Sam.
Jan 1, 2009

"I thought we had something, Shepard. Something real."
:qq:

Momomo posted:

They aren't checked in my game and work fine. Maybe downloading the game and the DLC all at once had something to do with it?

Also another question, pickpocketing. I have about 80 stealth and no matter what I do, I can't successfully pickpocket anyone. Every time I try, they notice and take their 5 caps back. Is it really just blind luck?

When you're crouched, does it say you're hidden? If you're on "caution" or "detected", you automatically fail to pickpocket. Using a Stealth Boy is the most reliable way.

Momomo
Dec 26, 2009

Dont judge me, I design your manhole

Sam. posted:

When you're crouched, does it say you're hidden? If you're on "caution" or "detected", you automatically fail to pickpocket. Using a Stealth Boy is the most reliable way.

I use a stealth boy and I'm hidden and people still find me. My Pip boy light is also not on.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
The Elevator was easy, but Implant GRX makes a lot of things easy.

Is it normal, as your level climbs into the high 40s, for everything to slow down all the time? My lower-level characters don't have this problem, but it seems like everything, from loading to opening containers, takes ages on my 48 character.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!
I think that's a problem with Gamebryo and big save files.

chelsea clinton
Sep 16, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Tunnelers weren't so bad for me but then I had a minigun. A lot of things aren't so bad when you have heavy weaponry.

redmercer
Sep 15, 2011

by Fistgrrl
Dead Money is a lot more tolerable when you go in at level 4; and are playing a 10 Charisma 10 Luck character. That supermutant who was a huge Stimpak sponge the second attempt turned into a one-shotting machine.

cemaphonic
Jan 1, 2011

Willie Tomg posted:

Holy crap Tunnelers are painful. I'm in the caves of whatever doing Lonesome Road and even with flashbangs, even with a flare gun, even with a modded advanced LAER and modded plasma defender shooting overcharged MF/SE cells while doped to the eyeballs on psycho, slasher, jet, rushing water and turbo they're STILL a pain in the rear end to beat. Mind you I'm max level now and the distended DLC level scaling is in full effect...

The highway packed with deathclaws was an easy breath of fresh air in comparison to fighting tunnelers in close.

This discussion is making me glad that my "see all the DLC" playthrough was an Unarmed/Logan's build. That character was crazy-munchkin even in a game where most builds get pretty powerful by the endgame.

BAILOUT MCQUACK!
Nov 14, 2005

Marco! Yeaaah...
Is there some bug where companions that get stripped of their weapons when going into anywhere like the van graffs or a casino that they get like double their weapons back or something? Veronica has way more carry weight being taken up than she did before but there is nothing in her inventory I would assume other than her hidden weapons/armor.

Sam.
Jan 1, 2009

"I thought we had something, Shepard. Something real."
:qq:

chelsea clinton posted:

Tunnelers weren't so bad for me but then I had a minigun. A lot of things aren't so bad when you have heavy weaponry.

Any weapon with a high rate of fire is good against tunnelers, because their damage threshold isn't that high. I found the .45 SMG to be pretty effective.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

BAILOUT MCQUACK! posted:

Veronica has way more carry weight being taken up than she did before but there is nothing in her inventory I would assume other than her hidden weapons/armor.

So you're just assuming that and not checking? I mean, if you know the carry weight is increasing, are you noticing extra items popping up in their inventories? Your companions loot corpses and pick up spare items like food and weapons, so that's probably what's happening.

VV The only thing I can figure is that you've got a bug of some kind preventing you from seeing the stuff they've picked up.

King Vidiot fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Jan 16, 2012

BAILOUT MCQUACK!
Nov 14, 2005

Marco! Yeaaah...

Tewratomeh posted:

So you're just assuming that and not checking? I mean, if you know the carry weight is increasing, are you noticing extra items popping up in their inventories? Your companions loot corpses and pick up spare items like food and weapons, so that's probably what's happening.

There isn't anything in their inventories though. Just the base weapons and armor that you can't take from them. If there is a console command to check their inventories including those items I will happily use it to check.

EDIT: So is there a console command to look in their inventory and see what is normally hidden? I guess I could kill them since I am on hardcore mode to see what they had.

BAILOUT MCQUACK! fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Jan 16, 2012

SlightlyMadman
Jan 14, 2005

Carry weight can get glitched like that, it doesn't seem to be calculated on the fly, but rather adjusted as you go along. In FO3, I had a mod for giving weight to ammo that bugged out and ended up giving me a ton of phantom weight that I couldn't get rid of. What mods are you running? My guess is that's the culprit.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!
Interestingly enough, for some things (eg ammo on hardcore) it only applies the weight after you leave the screen. So I had my companions carrying several thousand pounds of explosives.

Republican Vampire
Jun 2, 2007

BAILOUT MCQUACK! posted:

There isn't anything in their inventories though. Just the base weapons and armor that you can't take from them. If there is a console command to check their inventories including those items I will happily use it to check.

EDIT: So is there a console command to look in their inventory and see what is normally hidden? I guess I could kill them since I am on hardcore mode to see what they had.

The console command is showinventory. You have to have them selected though, either by clicking on them with the console open (which can be more difficult than it sounds) or using the prid command. If you have anything on them, you should empty their inventories first because the list can quickly overflow the number of lines that are displayed.

if they do have stuff on them you need to take off, the code is removeitem followed by the item code and the quantity. So like, removeitem XXY 1 or something. The itemcode you need should show up in the console when you use showinventory.

Vermain
Sep 5, 2006



chelsea clinton posted:

Tunnelers weren't so bad for me but then I had a minigun. A lot of things aren't so bad when you have heavy weaponry.

Gehenna + Piercing Strike + Pyromaniac absolutely obliterates everything, from what I've found (although you really need to pack on the DT to compensate for you having to slowly lumber up to everything). Legion Assassin squads used to be kind of scary but now they typically run at me, I hide behind a rock, then leap out and one or two-hit all of them.

BAILOUT MCQUACK!
Nov 14, 2005

Marco! Yeaaah...

SlightlyMadman posted:

Carry weight can get glitched like that, it doesn't seem to be calculated on the fly, but rather adjusted as you go along. In FO3, I had a mod for giving weight to ammo that bugged out and ended up giving me a ton of phantom weight that I couldn't get rid of. What mods are you running? My guess is that's the culprit.

I have no mods running though I do have it on hardcore which adds weight.

DemonNick posted:

The console command is showinventory. You have to have them selected though, either by clicking on them with the console open (which can be more difficult than it sounds) or using the prid command. If you have anything on them, you should empty their inventories first because the list can quickly overflow the number of lines that are displayed.

if they do have stuff on them you need to take off, the code is removeitem followed by the item code and the quantity. So like, removeitem XXY 1 or something. The itemcode you need should show up in the console when you use showinventory.

I sent Veronica back to the Lucky 38 so I can't really mess with her inventory right now to use the console command.

EDIT: YEP, she had another copy of her powerfist in her inventory don't know how.

EDIT2: I do know when it happened. I went into the silver rush with E-DE waiting outside and veronica came in with me and the bouncer takes your guns. When I came back out it must have duplicated the item because E-DE had 2 Electical Zap weapons on him aswell.

BAILOUT MCQUACK! fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Jan 17, 2012

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

I'm surprised there wasn't more closure on the tunnelers. Unless someone does something about them, they're going to emerge in the Mojave and wreck everyone's day someday. I thought that maybe the point of blowing up all warheads in the valley was to collapse their tunnels or something.

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Dr. Gene Dango MD
May 20, 2010

Fuck them other cats I'm running with my own wolfpack

Keep fronting like youse a thug and get ya dome pushed back
Can anyone point me towards some quests that boost NCR appeal, and a nice place to find Stimpacks? I know Gunrunners is the place to go for ammo and guns, but I usually travel to Novac for Stimpacks and between the occasional merchant and the junk yard down always I'll be lucky to get 2 or 3.

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