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Peas and Rice
Jul 14, 2004

Honor and profit.

Toriori posted:

I have the same problem. Having young children in my family, my first instinct it "I would rip that person to shreds with my bare hands!" But when I dwell on it I realize there's the chance that someone who's a pedophile may have been sexually abused themselves. It's very sad and emotionally exhausting to think about. Can you truly rehabilitate those kinds of people? Are some people really mentally ill or just twisted?

Also, here's a good documentary thanks to the Fifth Estate.
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/2011-2012/storiesfromtheriversedge/

I really want to save this and watch it later on my TV at home (on the road now) - is there any way to do that? I see a lot of these great docs as streaming videos but all the "DOWNLOAD FLASH VIDEO" software looks like thinly-disguised malware.

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El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Toriori posted:

I got in an argument with a friends mother about kids from fly in reserves who go to boarding homes, and how I had talked with a teacher who knew a student whose boarding parents put a padlock on their fridge when they weren't home so the kid and his friends wouldn't eat all the food. Her (the friends mom) response was that she had a friend who was a foster parent and when she'd have emergency foster kids in the house they would just go to town, devouring everything in sight so they had to lock the food up.
Really? I mean in terms of money I can see why it makes sense but don't bother being an emergency foster parent or a boarding parent then be surprised when the kid in your house is ravenous because they probably don't even know what it's like to have a fridge full of food.

As somebody who once had to guilt a foster parent of a special needs person (who was from one of those fly-in communities) into giving him a more substantial lunch so he'd quit taking food from other special needs people, I'd like to act like this suprises me but it doesn't. I also had to guilt that same foster parent into allowing him to go to special music lessons, even after the music teacher who offered them was willing to give a discount due to previously being my co-op employer in high school. Thunder Bay is A hosed UP city, and it's getting worse, I hear about poo poo like this all the time, and I'm not even in social work anymore.

Nuclear Tourist
Apr 7, 2005

TheHoodedClaw posted:

This is from a while back, but the ship concerned is almost certainly the MV Derbyshire, the largest British-flagged ship ever lost at sea. Hope this helps.

That's the one, thanks. Fantastic documentary, unfortunately the only version that I've managed to dig up online is dubbed in German. :ughh:

Nublington
Jul 2, 2007

Peas and Rice posted:

I really want to save this and watch it later on my TV at home (on the road now) - is there any way to do that? I see a lot of these great docs as streaming videos but all the "DOWNLOAD FLASH VIDEO" software looks like thinly-disguised malware.

I've been using Download Helper for Firefox for a long time, never had any problems. It doesn't work on all sites (some paysites for example) but most of the time it's perfect.

thecatdoesdrugs
Dec 26, 2011
Titicut Follies is a very stark, disturbing documentary about a Massachusetts mental health facility in the 60s.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062374/

It's scarier than most horror movies.

AtomD
May 3, 2009

Fun Shoe

Zackarotto posted:

Can anyone recommend any good documentaries about the history of electrical engineering or electromagnetic theory? It would be great if there's one out there that can teach me how to build a battery and radio from scratch (which I'll need to know if I ever get sent two thousand years back in time).

You might want to check out "Shock and Awe: The Story of Electricity" which aired on BBC4.
It's a tad sensationalist, but it doesn't skimp too much on the science side of things.

I honestly don't know where you'd be able to find it, though.

TLG James
Jun 5, 2000

Questing ain't easy
Apparently having sex with donkeys is common in Colombia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiGcWzw9QjY

:nws: There is some actual donkey loving at about the 13 minute mark. The rest is just interviewing people about it.

Lady Demelza
Dec 29, 2009



Lipstick Apathy
Thanks to everyone who has contributed; there are some really great documentaries that I would never have found otherwise.

Content: I recommend the documentary film Inside Job. It explores the current global financial crisis, narrated by Matt Damon. It's a very clear explanation of what went so terribly wrong, and you'll be too furious to be bored. For example, the American Treasury pushed Lehman Brothers to declare bankruptcy, because not only did the politicians/bankers not understand what the global implications would be or how foreign bankruptcy laws worked, but they just didn't care. There is some brilliant squirming by the finance and economics academics who think they are being interviewed as experts, and are instead confronted with questions about why, if the crash was all so obvious and inevitable, they did nothing about it.

On a different tack, does anyone have any good museum/archives/library documentaries? I enjoyed a documentary about the Greenhalgh family that defrauded museums with fake artefacts and a podcast about forgeries in archives, and was wondering if anyone knew of anything similar. It doesn't need to be about fakes and frauds, anything related to that sort of area would be of interest. Thanks!

Lady Demelza fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Jan 9, 2012

WouldDesk
Dec 26, 2009

TLG James posted:

Apparently having sex with donkeys is common in Colombia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiGcWzw9QjY

:nws: There is some actual donkey loving at about the 13 minute mark. The rest is just interviewing people about it.

:tviv:

:stare:

The last few page here have had some sick stuff. Last thing I should have watched is some Colombian screwing an rear end in the vagina.

Mincher
May 12, 2008

TLG James posted:

Apparently having sex with donkeys is common in Colombia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiGcWzw9QjY

:nws: There is some actual donkey loving at about the 13 minute mark. The rest is just interviewing people about it.

Holy.

poo poo.

It seems obvious that it could happen, even on such a scale, around the world. I just hadn't ever pondered it. This definitely tops the Liberia documentaries they made in terms of :psyboom:.

Also, that last shot in NYC had me in stitches.

Peas and Rice
Jul 14, 2004

Honor and profit.

Nublington posted:

I've been using Download Helper for Firefox for a long time, never had any problems. It doesn't work on all sites (some paysites for example) but most of the time it's perfect.

Just wanted to thank you for this, I was finally able to save a local copy of American Juggalo.

Too bad that Fifth Estate video requires you to be in Canada to start it, which means Download Helper won't work on that. I really want to watch it, it sounds interesting.

Spiderjelly
Aug 22, 2006

Sign of evil.
Got a treat for you, thread. I live in China, and I've just learned that China Central Television's documentary channel has an English language version, and many many past documentaries are archived on this site:

http://english.cntv.cn/program/e_documentary/video/index.shtml

Lots of good stuff about Chinese culture and history here.

E: A good one to start with, National Treasures in the Taipei Museum: http://english.cntv.cn/program/e_documentary/series/treasuretaipei/index.shtml

Chicken Doodle
May 16, 2007

TLG James posted:

Apparently having sex with donkeys is common in Colombia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiGcWzw9QjY

:nws: There is some actual donkey loving at about the 13 minute mark. The rest is just interviewing people about it.

I have never felt loving unclean before in my life but holy poo poo I want to scrub my skin completely off.

Thanks you loving rear end-hole.

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

Chicken Doodle posted:

I have never felt loving unclean before in my life but holy poo poo I want to scrub my skin completely off.

Because some people gently caress donkeys? Who cares. On the scale of depraved things humans do, I think this is pretty tame.

Anyway, I just watched The Devil Came on Horseback last night after putting it off for a long while. Definitely worth seeing and I'm sure it's been recommended in this thread previously. It's basically the story of how the world became aware of the genocide in Darfur. Some really horrific pictures in there so you might want to play it in another window and just listen to the audio if you're squeamish.

Can't believe the person who said Dear Zachary bored them a couple pages ago.

ants on my cum rag
Sep 2, 2011

"Oh God you got the spray gun, DO NOT LOSE IT, you seriously better not screw this up, I'm not kidding"
~~The Battle Hymn of the Contra Tiger Mother~~

mr. mephistopheles posted:

Because some people gently caress donkeys? Who cares. On the scale of depraved things humans do, I think this is pretty tame.



Yeah, compared to that pedophile documentary, the donkey loving seemed really much much better in comparison. It even had fun music :unsmith:.

Peas and Rice
Jul 14, 2004

Honor and profit.

Spiderjelly posted:

Got a treat for you, thread. I live in China, and I've just learned that China Central Television's documentary channel has an English language version, and many many past documentaries are archived on this site:

http://english.cntv.cn/program/e_documentary/video/index.shtml

Lots of good stuff about Chinese culture and history here.

E: A good one to start with, National Treasures in the Taipei Museum: http://english.cntv.cn/program/e_documentary/series/treasuretaipei/index.shtml

Am I doing something wrong? It keeps asking for a really weird plugin that Chrome can't identify to play the videos.

Really want to watch these, my wife goes to China and Taiwan regularly as part of her job so i'd love to know more about it (although from what I can tell by the language descriptions those videos have a very "state-sanctioned" feel.)

Diodeous
May 14, 2002

Lady Demelza posted:

On a different tack, does anyone have any good museum/archives/library documentaries? I enjoyed a documentary about the Greenhalgh family that defrauded museums with fake artefacts and a podcast about forgeries in archives, and was wondering if anyone knew of anything similar. It doesn't need to be about fakes and frauds, anything related to that sort of area would be of interest. Thanks!

This is only tangentially related, but The Art of the Steal is about the largest private collection of post-impressionist art and how the city of Philadelphia essentially stole it despite Albert C. Barnes' will.

cloudchamber
Aug 6, 2010

You know what the Ukraine is? It's a sitting duck. A road apple, Newman. The Ukraine is weak. It's feeble. I think it's time to put the hurt on the Ukraine
There's also a short documentary about the French National Library called Toute la mémoire du monde.It's directed by Alan Resnais who went on to make Hiroshima Mon Amour and Last Year at Marienbad.

Spiderjelly
Aug 22, 2006

Sign of evil.

Peas and Rice posted:

Am I doing something wrong? It keeps asking for a really weird plugin that Chrome can't identify to play the videos.

Really want to watch these, my wife goes to China and Taiwan regularly as part of her job so i'd love to know more about it (although from what I can tell by the language descriptions those videos have a very "state-sanctioned" feel.)

Chrome is probably too newfangled for China. I'd use firefox, and you do need a CCTV player plug in for it. I know that sounds a little sketchy, but that's just how the Chinese internet does business, and you can (probably) trust it.

Onion Vanguard
Jun 11, 2010

Breathe in. Breathe out.
For the life of me, I can not remember the name but a documentary for More4 or BBC was about a man who wanted to get away from the world and tried to see how much information private companies had on him & his son or something?

I would be really grateful if someone could remind me of the name or provide a link. tia

Flamadiddle
May 9, 2004

Onion Vanguard posted:

For the life of me, I can not remember the name but a documentary for More4 or BBC was about a man who wanted to get away from the world and tried to see how much information private companies had on him & his son or something?

I would be really grateful if someone could remind me of the name or provide a link. tia


Edit: Ah, here we go: "Erasing David". It's not on 4od anymore, but there's a DVD available.

http://erasingdavid.com/blog/

It's on iTunes if you're interested in buying/renting it.

Flamadiddle fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Jan 16, 2012

Ropes4u
May 2, 2009

TLG James posted:

Apparently having sex with donkeys is common in Colombia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiGcWzw9QjY

:nws: There is some actual donkey loving at about the 13 minute mark. The rest is just interviewing people about it.

Welcome to Columbia! That was a little uncomfortable but definitely not as bad as pedophiles, and to think your mom was worried about your playboy.

Onion Vanguard
Jun 11, 2010

Breathe in. Breathe out.

Flamadiddle posted:

Edit: Ah, here we go: "Erasing David". It's not on 4od anymore, but there's a DVD available.

http://erasingdavid.com/blog/

It's on iTunes if you're interested in buying/renting it.

You loving GOD. Thank you.

yaffle
Sep 15, 2002

Flapdoodle
A nice old documentary about the Tour de France, nothing horrible happens and even the people who fall off are cheerful and old-timey
Vive le Tour:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3EHJjHP6yc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B6ZycaBelU&feature=related

Dixon.Bainbridge
Oct 23, 2011
The Mark of Cain by Alix Lambert (73 minutes)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9JDJdaMs-Y

An American documentary maker goes around various Russian prisons and bribes the guards to let her interview the prisoners. The bribing is made clearer in the book http://www.amazon.co.uk/Russian-Prison-Tattoos-Authority-Domination/dp/0764317644/ I don't think it's mentioned in the film.

The film is half about the Russian post-soviet prison system and half about the tattoos the prisoners wear, especially the 'Thieves in Law' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thief_in_law who did/do have a lot of influence within the prisons.

If you can't be bothered to watch the whole 73 minutes: every now and then the guards have a talent contest and this is "The dance group from correctional colony 15" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9JDJdaMs-Y#t=50m20s (hint: you will not be disappointed).

usbombshell
Oct 29, 2004

Boom!

Dixon.Bainbridge posted:

The Mark of Cain by Alix Lambert (73 minutes)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9JDJdaMs-Y

An American documentary maker goes around various Russian prisons and bribes the guards to let her interview the prisoners. The bribing is made clearer in the book http://www.amazon.co.uk/Russian-Prison-Tattoos-Authority-Domination/dp/0764317644/ I don't think it's mentioned in the film.

The film is half about the Russian post-soviet prison system and half about the tattoos the prisoners wear, especially the 'Thieves in Law' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thief_in_law who did/do have a lot of influence within the prisons.

If you can't be bothered to watch the whole 73 minutes: every now and then the guards have a talent contest and this is "The dance group from correctional colony 15" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9JDJdaMs-Y#t=50m20s (hint: you will not be disappointed).

Thank you for this! I am teaching an International Crime class and we are doing a class on the Vory. Awesome! :)

e: If anyone else knows of any other documentaries that may be relevant to my class, I will be eternally grateful.

usbombshell fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Jan 17, 2012

Dixon.Bainbridge
Oct 23, 2011

usbombshell posted:

Thank you for this! I am teaching an International Crime class and we are doing a class on the Vory. Awesome! :)

e: If anyone else knows of any other documentaries that may be relevant to my class, I will be eternally grateful.

This is saved to my watch later list on youtube (disclaimer: I haven't watched it yet) it's a completely different style to the first one I posted more like a normal TV mafia documentary from the snippets I've watched.

http://youtu.be/RwB9q31Jkew

e: Oh International Crime class I missed that. Have you seen Ross Kemp's Gang series that was on UK TV a few years ago? I saw a few episodes, those I saw were OK considering what normally gets on TV. I bet they're on youtube/video.google.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Kemp_on_Gangs

Dixon.Bainbridge fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Jan 17, 2012

cloudchamber
Aug 6, 2010

You know what the Ukraine is? It's a sitting duck. A road apple, Newman. The Ukraine is weak. It's feeble. I think it's time to put the hurt on the Ukraine
The BBC made a good doc about the Cammora in Italy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgiuTqi5R-o

oliverking
Jan 13, 2012
Some good music documentaries I've watched lately:
Before the music dies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Before_the_Music_Dies

Talihina Sky
https://www.talihinasky.com

Scratch
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scratch_(movie)

Under Great White Northern Light
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Under_Great_White_Northern_Lights

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
Mental: A History of the Madhouse Part 1

This documentary examines the final decades of Britains insane asylums after the introduction of the NHS and interviews former inmates and employees about the disturbing experiments and treatments they had to endure as the medical scientists of the fifties grappled with treatment of mental illness.

electricsugar
Jan 21, 2008

Tum again?

El Goatherd posted:

I found the other two episodes of the 2002 BBC series 'The Hunt For Britain's Pedophiles'. Be warned that these episodes feature some heavily censored but still very upsetting images. I haven't watched it yet, but I'm hoping one of the parts is the episode I remember with a particularly obviously mentally-ill bloke who kept saying it was all the kids fault and how the existence of female circumcision makes it alright for him to sexually abuse children or something.

All of these are :nws: and :nms:. You have been warned.

Episode 1, Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rw_glK3CiA
Episode 1, Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LihdzmVECao
Episode 1, Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2wW4OD79D8

Episode 2, Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYr6Ud8mrfc
Episode 2, Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B4XHrhfiWY:
Episode 2, Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4Vn6mZzojI

Episode 3, Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZM_AXVtOIA
Episode 3, Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCsAW6q0L6w

The last part was the one linked earlier in the thread.

Edit : Only halfway through the first episode and already remember why this upset me so much the first time. Listening to that now older girl recounting the abuse she suffered at the hands of her father and his friends just fills me with so much revulsion and sadness.

Edit 2 : Having now watched it I'd add an extra warning that parts of the other two episodes are even worse, so you might want to skip this.

Oh my god the audio tape from episode 1, part 2 :psyboom:

I think I'm going to be sick. I want to pierce my eardrums so there is no chance of me ever hearing something like that again.

El Goatherd
Jun 25, 2005

hate is art

SeanBeansShako posted:

Mental: A History of the Madhouse Part 1

This documentary examines the final decades of Britains insane asylums after the introduction of the NHS and interviews former inmates and employees about the disturbing experiments and treatments they had to endure as the medical scientists of the fifties grappled with treatment of mental illness.

Thanks for posting this. I'm fascinated by the history of medicine and mental health issues and this is the sort of thing I've been looking for for ages.

It's hard to believe that things like lobotomy and insulin coma were ever used, let alone on such a wide scale. There was a good Radio Four documentary about lobotomies a short while ago :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b016wx0w

Cactus
Jun 24, 2006

Haven't seen this posted here since it was put up on Dec 9th:

http://www.gamearena.com.au/videos/latest.php/5-inch-floppy-60--unethical-game-design

I still play a lot of games, and having been addicted to WoW in the past, this really hit home for me. It's a surprisingly insightful and non-alarmist look at the deliberately addictive design principles of those carrot-on-a-stick type games, and why they work.

quote:

This week on the 5 Inch Floppy Junglist takes a look at Unethical Game Design and the impact of compulsion manipulation involved in video game design! He chats with Professor Ian Bogost from the Georgia Institute of Technology, Dr Espen Aarseth from the IT University of Copenhagen and Rebecca Stone about the Psychology of video gaming.

melon cat
Jan 21, 2010

Nap Ghost
Can anyone recommend some good documentaries on UFO sightings-er, sorry, "weather balloons"?

WouldDesk
Dec 26, 2009

melon cat posted:

Can anyone recommend some good documentaries on UFO sightings-er, sorry, "weather balloons"?

I dislike all UFO docs pretty much, but this one is amazing. No quacks or psychos. Highly recommended.



I Know What I Saw

Director James Fox assembled some of the most credible UFO witnesses from around the world to testify at The National Press Club in Washington D.C. They were: Air Force Generals, US astronauts, military pilots, commercial pilots, government and FAA officials from seven countries. Governor Fife Symington from Arizona stated it “will challenge your reality”.

Their accounts reveal a secret U.S. operation with the aim to confiscate and hoard substantiating evidence from close encounters to the extent that even Presidents have failed to get straight answers. The documentary exposes reasons behind government secrecy from those involved at the highest level.

http://documentarystorm.com/i-know-what-i-saw/

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass
Dan Aykroyd: Unplugged on UFOs is super cheesey but a fun doc on the subject too.

cloudchamber
Aug 6, 2010

You know what the Ukraine is? It's a sitting duck. A road apple, Newman. The Ukraine is weak. It's feeble. I think it's time to put the hurt on the Ukraine

melon cat posted:

Can anyone recommend some good documentaries on UFO sightings-er, sorry, "weather balloons"?

This one hosted by Danny Dyer is worth a laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dxc1W8exe7g

fat bossy gerbil
Jul 1, 2007

WouldDesk posted:

I dislike all UFO docs pretty much, but this one is amazing. No quacks or psychos. Highly recommended.



I Know What I Saw


Gonna chime in and say that this one is indeed really good, even if you're a skeptic (as I am). It really only focuses on those UFO cases that are truly, honestly, inexplicably bizarre and beg the question "what in the gently caress happened here?"

Qotile Swirl
Aug 15, 2011

Alone In the Dark, A ground breaking horror game.
Castrato, 2006 BBC documentary:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8ZAraf5wMc&list=PL093EBA61CDBC96C2&feature=plpp_play_all

I adore Baroque opera, it's got to be my favorite form of music. In almost all Italian-style Baroque operas, the part of the hero is written for a castrato -- a man who had his testicles surgically removed before puberty to prevent his voice from changing. The last surgical castrato died in 1922, so today those parts are usually sung by countertenors or sopranists, occasionally women in drag, less occasionally by natural castrati (there just aren't that many anymore since the advent of hormone replacement therapy). When you listen to Baroque opera all the time, it seems perfectly normal and unremarkable that the good guys have high voices and the bad guys low. You don't question it. It isn't until you step back that you realize how bizarre the whole concept of the castrato is and how abhorrent was the practice.

The documentary is about castrati and the castrato voice -- what it was and what it wasn't -- and it attempts to recreate it by morphing a boy's voice with a changed man's voice. Sort of like in the movie Farinelli, but a bit less crap. Only a bit, though.

I started to write about my quibbles with the documentary and clarified some stuff it sort of glossed over, but it turned into a wall of text that I figured no one would read. Suffice to say, it oversimplifies some historical points and I question their choice of performers. Still, it could have been a lot worse, and it's a decent intro if you're unfamiliar with Baroque opera or if you've never given castrati much thought.

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SamLikesCake
Oct 6, 2006

... and he is my navigator.

Qotile Swirl posted:

Castrato, 2006 BBC documentary:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8ZAraf5wMc&list=PL093EBA61CDBC96C2&feature=plpp_play_all

I adore Baroque opera, it's got to be my favorite form of music. In almost all Italian-style Baroque operas, the part of the hero is written for a castrato -- a man who had his testicles surgically removed before puberty to prevent his voice from changing. The last surgical castrato died in 1922, so today those parts are usually sung by countertenors or sopranists, occasionally women in drag, less occasionally by natural castrati (there just aren't that many anymore since the advent of hormone replacement therapy). When you listen to Baroque opera all the time, it seems perfectly normal and unremarkable that the good guys have high voices and the bad guys low. You don't question it. It isn't until you step back that you realize how bizarre the whole concept of the castrato is and how abhorrent was the practice.

The documentary is about castrati and the castrato voice -- what it was and what it wasn't -- and it attempts to recreate it by morphing a boy's voice with a changed man's voice. Sort of like in the movie Farinelli, but a bit less crap. Only a bit, though.

I started to write about my quibbles with the documentary and clarified some stuff it sort of glossed over, but it turned into a wall of text that I figured no one would read. Suffice to say, it oversimplifies some historical points and I question their choice of performers. Still, it could have been a lot worse, and it's a decent intro if you're unfamiliar with Baroque opera or if you've never given castrati much thought.

Just wanted to say that this was really cool. That male soprano made the girly alto in me feel manly and tough.

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