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jisforjosh posted:http://vimeo.com/35354214 I did a side by side with that clip and the MST3K episode and it's amazing how different it is. It's like a well lit nightmare of a film now  .
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You know it'd almost be a cool comparison if the blu-ray has 2 versions of the film, the restored one and one of the "original" lovely versions, just to hammer home how drastic the restoration is.
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Xenomrph posted:You know it'd almost be a cool comparison if the blu-ray has 2 versions of the film, the restored one and one of the "original" lovely versions, just to hammer home how drastic the restoration is. I can't imagine it'd be too hard to throw the public-domain, Archive.org version on there as a bonus feature.
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Payndz posted:It almost looks too good. The muddy, smeary, multiple-generations-down appearance of the other versions gave the film a found-footage feel that goes with the grungy and creepy (in a sexual, not horror sense) atmosphere of the movie. I know what you mean, but I think this gives it an entirely new and different creepiness - it's not a home movie of the worst vacation ever, instead it's any other low-budget movie made in the 1960s, but odd and nightmarish, like a parallel hell-universe version of Gidget. It gives me the same feeling that Blood Feast did the first time I saw it - the clothes and production values were all familiar from other movies I'd seen, but what was happening on screen was so far from what I usually associated with that aesthetic that it just felt wrong. quote:The quality of the image also somehow makes the technical ineptness behind the camera even more noticeable - the awkward blocking and framing, the crude editing, the key close-up that's out of focus except for the brim of Torgo's hat, etc. I'm assuming that because this is from the workprint, there are going to be some differences from the released movie. The bit where Torgo reaches for her hair seems to go on longer in the restored footage than the original linked on YouTube upthread. But if anything, it just makes it all feel even weirder.
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Xenomrph posted:You know it'd almost be a cool comparison if the blu-ray has 2 versions of the film, the restored one and one of the "original" lovely versions, just to hammer home how drastic the restoration is. What about a comparison featurette?
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Xenomrph posted:You know it'd almost be a cool comparison if the blu-ray has 2 versions of the film, the restored one and one of the "original" lovely versions, just to hammer home how drastic the restoration is. I don't know how hard it would be to take advantage of the alternative angle button for Blu-Ray but it would be wild to be able to swap between the current version and an upscaled to 1080p version of the current public domain release on the fly. Call Me Charlie fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Jan 20, 2012 |
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Payndz posted:Two things I immediately thought after watching the (astoundingly) cleaned-up clip: I'm wondering if I will feel the same way when watching this cleaned up version of Manos like I did when I watched the special edition of Akira. That movie was cleaned up & had new voice actors and while I admit I first watched it on VHS the griminess added a nice aesthetic. I'm still donating to this project. I'm really curious to talk to people that see the cleaned-up version of Manos first then see the MST3K version, then hear their impressions.
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Ben Solo posted:
MY COLLEGE GIRLFRIEND was a ringer for her. Had we still been together when the '96 ConventioCon happened, she would have gone as Margaret. I would have been the completely unrelated but more fitting Ilya Muromets. I could have clubbed overly-handsy Torgos over the head with a mighty blade.
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Android Bicyclist posted:I'm still donating to this project. I'm really curious to talk to people that see the cleaned-up version of Manos first then see the MST3K version, then hear their impressions. Manos was never one of the MST3K episodes that I caught, and even though I watch an occasional episode on Netflix, I'm now intentionally not watching the Manos episode precisely for this reason.
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I have to admit I have never seen this film, but that clip has sold me. I don't know why, but I love watching amateurish productions, there's something pure and formless to it. The performance of the actor playing Torgo is mesmerising in that clip, he has no sense of camera, no training, but he's giving it the beans.
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I have no idea how I missed this thread for months, but I'm absolutely stunned with your efforts and added to the Kickstarter.
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Craig Spradlin posted:I know what you mean, but I think this gives it an entirely new and different creepiness - it's not a home movie of the worst vacation ever, instead it's any other low-budget movie made in the 1960s, but odd and nightmarish, like a parallel hell-universe version of Gidget.  gently caress it, I'm in for $50. I've never seen Manos, but this is an amazing project and I want to support it. That clip you posted is incredible.
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Slack Motherfucker posted:
You're missing out on what is somehow both more and less creepy than it was ever intended to be. You should seriously check it out.
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Professor Clumsy posted:I have to admit I have never seen this film, but that clip has sold me. I don't know why, but I love watching amateurish productions, there's something pure and formless to it. The performance of the actor playing Torgo is mesmerising in that clip, he has no sense of camera, no training, but he's giving it the beans. There's also the fact that John Reynolds, the actor who played Torgo, was reportedly high as hell during most of the shooting.
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Mutant Headcrab posted:There's also the fact that John Reynolds, the actor who played Torgo, was reportedly high as hell during most of the shooting. Tripping balls on LSD was what I've always heard. He might not have even been aware that he was being filmed.
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Mutant Headcrab posted:There's also the fact that John Reynolds, the actor who played Torgo, was reportedly high as hell during most of the shooting. If you want to add to the creepiness he also killed himself shortly after the movie finished filming.
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TrixRabbi posted:If you want to add to the creepiness he also killed himself shortly after the movie finished filming. Drug overdose, wasn't it? Pretty sure he didn't live to see the premiere.
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Jan 20, 2012 21:57
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The Heath Ledger of his time.
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Ballz posted:Drug overdose, wasn't it? Pretty sure he didn't live to see the premiere. Bobby The Rookie fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Jan 20, 2012 |
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Bobby The Rookie posted:Wasn't it that he got hooked on painkillers because the stupid *thigh prostheses that you hardly ever see hurt so much to wear? It wasn't just that he wore it, it was that he wore it backwards and no one told him.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:What about a comparison featurette?
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Ballz posted:Drug overdose, wasn't it? Pretty sure he didn't live to see the premiere. Actually, he took the Kurt Cobain route. If only the master had approved. 
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Magic Hate Ball posted:What about a comparison featurette? Speaking of: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uae58589aec&feature=youtu.be&hd=1
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RubeTube posted:Speaking of: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uae58589aec&feature=youtu.be&hd=1 Seriously, it's a whole new kind of creepy with this clarity.
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I'm getting the opposite effect... It seems to me that it loses a lot of the creepiness because of the clarity. Not being able to see the backgrounds made the movie look more nightmarish
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RubeTube posted:Speaking of: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uae58589aec&feature=youtu.be&hd=1
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Steve Yun posted:I'm getting the opposite effect... It seems to me that it loses a lot of the creepiness because of the clarity. Not being able to see the backgrounds made the movie look more nightmarish It's a different kinda creepy, is what I'm saying.
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Dissapointed Owl posted:It's a different kinda creepy, is what I'm saying. I agree, Torgo seen with more clarity is that much more unsettling. And the out of focus hair fondling shot remains awesome (and out of focus).
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Steve Yun posted:I'm getting the opposite effect... It seems to me that it loses a lot of the creepiness because of the clarity. Not being able to see the backgrounds made the movie look more nightmarish Keep in mind they haven't really "done" anything to the footage yet, just scanned it with maximum clarity and accuracy. We'll see how the final color-corrected product turns out.
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I seriously love the way each shot goes on for a slightly uncomfortable length of time, especially the closeups with Torgo waving his hand and Margaret awkwardly blinking. We really get to study their faces. It sorta reminds me of Even Dwarves Started Small or anything by Herzog.
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Skeletron posted:I seriously love the way each shot goes on for a slightly uncomfortable length of time, especially the closeups with Torgo waving his hand and Margaret awkwardly blinking. We really get to study their faces. It sorta reminds me of Even Dwarves Started Small or anything by Herzog. I was just thinking the same thing. When Torgo reaches out to touch her he goes for her shoulder and her hair before she even seems to react to it. Couldn't they only film for like 90 seconds with the camera they were using? It feels like they basically made each shot last 90 seconds and then sort of cut the film together with scenes going on way longer than they should.
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I love this movie and Ben Solo, I can do nothing but send you the highest of praises for the work you are doing. I'm going to check my bank account balance tomorrow and assuming I haven't spent too much this month I will more than likely be sending $50 in your direction. Everything about this project is great, and to think I just clicked this thread because I saw the word "Manos." These forums and the users within them have a bizzare ability to part me and my cash, but for a cause as fantastic as this, I'm just glad I've been notified of such an opportunity. The upgrades all look incredible, and though it'll most likely only be $50, I'll be proud to have contributed to this project, even in as small a way as a donation. Also, thankyou Skeletron for the Desktop resolution images. God drat I cannot wait for this to finally reach fruition.
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I brought this to the attention of my friend who's a program coordinator for an art house theater. He specializes in their cool midnight series, so if you ever get prints made eventually, he'll probably be on the lookout.
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I'm working on a bunch of GIFs for the upcoming Star Trek: The Next Generation HD release, so I thought I'd add one for you guys:
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Aatrek posted:I'm working on a bunch of GIFs for the upcoming Star Trek: The Next Generation HD release, so I thought I'd add one for you guys: Please make more, because that's fantastic.
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Dissapointed Owl posted:Please make more, because that's fantastic. If I can get some more before-and-after frame grabs, I'll make as many as you all want.
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DrVenkman posted:I was just thinking the same thing. When Torgo reaches out to touch her he goes for her shoulder and her hair before she even seems to react to it. It was just 32 seconds. Watch it again and get a stopwatch ready and time the cuts.
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Alright. After watching the side by side clip, I am fully sold on buying this. I can't afford to throw in $50 right now. I just got a new job so I may be able to soon. But if I can't, I will be able to buy this on blu-ray, right? And if so, how much?
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Detective Thompson posted:I want your hair... I love when he tilts his head to the right at the end.
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