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This is my favorite thread in AI and I'm always so excited when it has an abundance of new posts. Keep it coming you beautiful bastards.
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# ? Jan 18, 2012 22:58 |
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Turbocharging your completely stock snowmobile? Oops... DefaultPeanut fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Jan 19, 2012 |
# ? Jan 19, 2012 01:37 |
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Reading about the Italian cruise liner led me to this pictorial of the MV Tricolor salvage operation The pictures are nice and high res, so be sure to enlarge them. What do they use to cut a ship into sections like that? If you look at some of the pictures (like this one) it seems like it was cut with a giant bandsaw. Look at how the cut line travels across the 3 engines.
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# ? Jan 23, 2012 15:27 |
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Hillridge posted:Reading about the Italian cruise liner led me to this pictorial of the MV Tricolor salvage operation Most of these ships are assembled in large sections like that. I assume they disassemble them in the same way for salvage (by cutting, most likely)
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# ? Jan 23, 2012 15:47 |
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Hillridge posted:What do they use to cut a ship into sections like that? If you look at some of the pictures (like this one) it seems like it was cut with a giant bandsaw. Look at how the cut line travels across the 3 engines. You use a giant bandsaw basically. String a cutting cable between two platforms and under the ship, and slowly saw through it.
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# ? Jan 23, 2012 16:13 |
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Hillridge posted:Reading about the Italian cruise liner led me to this pictorial of the MV Tricolor salvage operation Those are some AWESOME real life cutaways. particularly this:
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# ? Jan 23, 2012 17:15 |
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:Those are some AWESOME real life cutaways. Obviously not, but it seems at a minimum they would avoid cutting through those engines as they are more valuable in once piece than in pieces.
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# ? Jan 23, 2012 17:35 |
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Yeah that's the one I mentioned, where it looks like they just ran a saw right through it, missed the first engine, shaved the second, and cut the front off the third. There are other photos where you can see cars (the cargo) cut in half too.
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# ? Jan 23, 2012 17:35 |
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JD Brickmeister posted:Obviously not, but it seems at a minimum they would avoid cutting through those engines as they are more valuable in once piece than in pieces. Nothing on that ship its worth more than its weight in scrap. Hazchem & safety issues to recover them, remanufacturing / repairing costs before they can be sold.
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# ? Jan 23, 2012 17:40 |
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I'm going to have to go find a picture of the technique they use to cut these, but it basically is just a giant bandsaw. EDIT: No picture yet, but they used a carbide-encrusted cutting wire. EDIT: Oh, Rent-A-Cop already discussed this. EDIT: Anyway, here's some pictures of the process. wdarkk fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Jan 23, 2012 |
# ? Jan 23, 2012 17:47 |
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Cakefool posted:Nothing on that ship its worth more than its weight in scrap. Hazchem & safety issues to recover them, remanufacturing / repairing costs before they can be sold. Ding. Insurance paid for all of it already based on its actual value as an engine / cargo / etc, so what's left can only be scrapped. There was another wreck which I forget the name of that had scores of mid-'00s Mazdas on board, including a bunch of Mazda3s and I believe early NCs. Despite the fact that most of them had no actual water damage and had just essentially been parked on a hill, Mazda / their insurance company didn't want even any of the parts from those cars on the road. Even only for track usage. They were all crushed and recycled, along with every other ounce of metal on the ship.
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# ? Jan 23, 2012 18:08 |
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wdarkk posted:I'm going to have to go find a picture of the technique they use to cut these, but it basically is just a giant bandsaw. Probably similar to the cutting method at places that quarry marble and such..
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# ? Jan 23, 2012 18:29 |
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IOwnCalculus posted:Ding. Insurance paid for all of it already based on its actual value as an engine / cargo / etc, so what's left can only be scrapped. There was another wreck which I forget the name of that had scores of mid-'00s Mazdas on board, including a bunch of Mazda3s and I believe early NCs. Despite the fact that most of them had no actual water damage and had just essentially been parked on a hill, Mazda / their insurance company didn't want even any of the parts from those cars on the road. Even only for track usage. They were all crushed and recycled, along with every other ounce of metal on the ship. 3 months @ 15' sideways, over 3500 cars crushed. I remember reading that in either natgeo or new scientist back when.
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# ? Jan 23, 2012 19:04 |
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Cakefool posted:3 months @ 15' sideways, over 3500 cars crushed. I remember reading that in either natgeo or new scientist back when. The Race to Save the Cougar Ace A Crushing Issue: How to Destroy Brand-New Cars quote:Little things make a big difference. For instance, most of the cars have six airbags, and discharging them individually (forcing them to inflate so they can't be resold) takes about five minutes apiece -- or a total of a half-hour per car. So engineers back at Mazda's headquarters, in Hiroshima, fashioned a device that can discharge all six at once.
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# ? Jan 23, 2012 19:16 |
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I remember reading that Cougar Ace article about the ship salvage team a while ago. Seems like such an insane, incredible job.
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# ? Jan 23, 2012 19:27 |
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wdarkk posted:I'm going to have to go find a picture of the technique they use to cut these, but it basically is just a giant bandsaw. I'm certain I've seen a documentary about that kind of bandsaw cutting. Discovery/natgeo most likely. edit: Modern Marvels- Deep Sea Salvage or maybe it was National Geographic - Deep Sea Salvage Heavy Metal <- k wasn't this just checked Jusupov fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Jan 23, 2012 |
# ? Jan 23, 2012 21:44 |
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Hypnolobster posted:I remember reading that Cougar Ace article about the ship salvage team a while ago. Seems like such an insane, incredible job. I just read that story, and have the exact same feeling. It's like the Commandos of ship salvaging.
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# ? Jan 23, 2012 22:17 |
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Jusupov posted:I'm certain I've seen a documentary about that kind of bandsaw cutting. Discovery/natgeo most likely. I saw it in one of the Nat Geo Salvage Code Red shows. natgeotv.com seems to have clips so if someone has time they can try to search for it.
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# ? Jan 23, 2012 22:23 |
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Seat Safety Switch posted:It was probably Wired. 5,500 cars at 60' for a couple of days, amazing what a few years does to the memory. I'm still convinced it was New Scientist but I can't find the article, I'll blame the memory again.
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# ? Jan 23, 2012 22:37 |
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For the record, that was definitely the one I was thinking of, and that Wired article is outstanding.
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# ? Jan 25, 2012 00:37 |
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Very timely.... salvage of the TK Bremen, which ran aground in France. http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/01/salvaging-the-tk-bremen/100231/ Captain dropped anchor in a storm but the anchors dragged across the bottom and it went ashore.
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# ? Jan 25, 2012 07:29 |
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So today when I got down to the garages after work, one of the tires seemed a bit deflated so I carefully took it to a gas station which is right across the street: Must've caught a nail or something this morning and probably drove a good part of 20km this way. gently caress, I don't think I'll make it until spring now! They are PO's tires with just about the minimum amount of tread left for this season, so I really didn't want to shell out five hundred bucks for a new set only to use them for a month (plus, it snowed exactly once this year so far) and store them for the rest of the year.
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# ? Jan 27, 2012 00:17 |
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hit the junkyard and buy a used one, if you can find a matching or similar-tread-pattern tire of the same size. You'll pay under 50 bucks most likely.
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# ? Jan 27, 2012 01:41 |
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kastein posted:hit the junkyard and buy a used one, if you can find a matching or similar-tread-pattern tire of the same size. You'll pay under 50 bucks most likely. For $50 you can get a brand new Kumho or similar tire in most sizes.
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# ? Jan 27, 2012 02:03 |
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Geirskogul posted:For $50 you can get a brand new Kumho or similar tire in most sizes. That seems like an awfully low profile; don't those tend to be more expensive?
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# ? Jan 27, 2012 04:07 |
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You sound like my uncle. Every tire is low profile these days.
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# ? Jan 27, 2012 04:19 |
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Some places will sell used tires for ~$60 or less. If you just need something to hold you over for a bit, you could ask around.
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# ? Jan 27, 2012 04:20 |
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ultimateforce posted:You sound like my uncle. Every tire is low profile these days. Well, they're 195/50/R15, I think that's one of the stock sizes available on the NBs. If I were buying wheels too I'd probably go for a higher profile for the winter set. As for the tires, any brand I've heard of costs over $100 and/or is out of stock, so I've been looking at used as suggested. Thanks!
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# ? Jan 28, 2012 00:50 |
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mobby_6kl posted:Well, they're 195/50/R15, I think that's one of the stock sizes available on the NBs. If I were buying wheels too I'd probably go for a higher profile for the winter set. As for the tires, any brand I've heard of costs over $100 and/or is out of stock, so I've been looking at used as suggested. Thanks!
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# ? Jan 28, 2012 08:25 |
Couple things from my last ship:
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# ? Jan 30, 2012 08:55 |
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I see water inside of a room that is inside of a ship. I know that water doesn't belong there and it terrifies me for some reason. What was leaking/what caused it?
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# ? Jan 30, 2012 09:08 |
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Is that a radiator spewing water/coolant?
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# ? Jan 30, 2012 09:11 |
Tanz-Kommandant posted:I see water inside of a room that is inside of a ship. I know that water doesn't belong there and it terrifies me for some reason. A relief valve lifted, this is a small room off to the side of the main engine room that I normally just glance into to see if there are any problems, and, well. I dunno how long the relief valve had been dumping for but it was several tonnes of water. Chinatown posted:Is that a radiator spewing water/coolant? It's a heat exchanger, so more or less, yeah.
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# ? Jan 30, 2012 10:18 |
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Two Finger posted:A relief valve lifted, this is a small room off to the side of the main engine room that I normally just glance into to see if there are any problems, and, well. I dunno how long the relief valve had been dumping for but it was several tonnes of water. edit: also, why isn't there a water sensor or some such poo poo in there?
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# ? Jan 30, 2012 10:21 |
The two problems are actually unrelated, they just happened on the same day. The big pool of water is from one system, the heat exchanger leak is from the cooling for the main engines. The reason there isn't a water sensor there is to give me something to do - it's the engineers' job to find things like this and fix them.
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# ? Jan 30, 2012 10:28 |
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Two Finger posted:The two problems are actually unrelated, they just happened on the same day. The big pool of water is from one system, the heat exchanger leak is from the cooling for the main engines. I just thought most 'rooms' where the coolers are had flotation sensors that activated a bilge pump. VVVVVVV - I am an illiterate dumbass dor1 fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Jan 30, 2012 |
# ? Jan 30, 2012 10:36 |
Yes, but you keep missing the part where the two problems were entirely unrelated, the room where that water is did not have a bilge well/sensor.
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# ? Jan 30, 2012 10:41 |
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Not the worst pic in here, but bearing failures are always fun. And in this case, it sounded exactly like a CV joint in its death throws. 2 whacks with the slide hammer and metal flew everywhere. That bearing was only about 7 months old too. Wonder how far I could have driven on that.
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# ? Jan 31, 2012 23:57 |
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This '72 Charger used to be my daily driver until I had to take it into a guard rail to avoid hitting someone this afternoon. Poor baby
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# ? Feb 1, 2012 00:11 |
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Post Pictures of Horrible Metallurgical Failures Actually I don't have any pictures and they wouldn't really be spectacular anyways but holy poo poo TMX stop selling us bad aluminum
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# ? Feb 1, 2012 00:35 |