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Did someone hit it on the rear quarter panel?
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Ingraman posted:Some more pictures of the new Ford Fusion. Looks really good, but unfortunately it seems the US isn't getting the wagon: A few pages back, but that Fusion/Mondeo wagon looks killer. I'd love an AWD ecoboost one.
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Jan 22, 2012 01:20
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Cream_Filling posted:Looks like Hyundai is coming out with an Elantra coupe. Maybe a more conventional alternative to the Veloster? I love coupes, but it seems that every time Asian manufacturers attempt it on a car that already had four doors (Civic and Accord specifically suffer from this problem) that it just turns out looking like they didn't have a loving clue what to do with anything behind the door, other than to turn it into a giant expanse of nothingness. It ends up looking worse than the sedan, as well as having less utility. What I don't get is Hyundai got the coupe/sedan platform sharing near-perfect with the Genesis; why take a massive step backward?
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Jan 22, 2012 01:55
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PT6A posted:What I don't get is Hyundai got the coupe/sedan platform sharing near-perfect with the Genesis; why take a massive step backward? The Genesis coupe and sedan may share the basic platform but they are far different in size. That Elantra looks like it has the similar (or the same) wheelbase to the sedan version.
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Jan 22, 2012 01:59
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rscott posted:Did someone hit it on the rear quarter panel? Sure looks like it. I wonder if having a crease on the body like that makes it easier to damage.
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Jan 22, 2012 02:44
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PT6A posted:I love coupes, but it seems that every time Asian manufacturers attempt it on a car that already had four doors (Civic and Accord specifically suffer from this problem) that it just turns out looking like they didn't have a loving clue what to do with anything behind the door, other than to turn it into a giant expanse of nothingness. It ends up looking worse than the sedan, as well as having less utility. If it were my guess, it's because there's too much rake on the beltline to look "sporty". The problem being that the rear quarter window gets so small that you get a big mass of paneling there. Not that other designers don't have such issues, but:  You might as well ask why they make the Accord coupe at all. I really can't think of a single reason.
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Jan 22, 2012 04:26
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CharlesM posted:Sure looks like it. I wonder if having a crease on the body like that makes it easier to damage. No easier to damage, much harder to fix.
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Jan 22, 2012 21:04
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Creases in sheet metal also cost more money to make. Yay!
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Jan 23, 2012 16:13
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Cream_Filling posted:Looks like Hyundai is coming out with an Elantra coupe. Maybe a more conventional alternative to the Veloster? Does anyone else thing that the majority of sub compact cars that are coming out now look like the past generation (2006-2010) civic? to be fair though, that Elantra coupe does look good.
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Jan 24, 2012 00:07
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Yeah that to me looks like a creased Civic Coupe.
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Jan 24, 2012 00:31
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I don't think that looks like a civic at all.
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Jan 24, 2012 01:06
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It has a very similar profile to the 8th and 9th generation coupes.
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Jan 24, 2012 05:36
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Sorta, but not nearly as much as the Forte Koupe:
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Jan 24, 2012 05:40
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Personally I think these Korean versions look better than the Civic. The Kia Forte Koup is pretty drat sexy. Drop the 270hp turbo engine Hyundai has in there and I would be really interested.
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Jan 24, 2012 09:19
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kimbo305 posted:Sorta, but not nearly as much as the Forte Koupe: All I see is a Korean take on the mid-90s Avenger
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Jan 24, 2012 13:58
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To be fair, it came out before Kia's Optima styling debuted and started migrating to the rest of the lines. It also had unfortunate timing. It was good for 2009 before the Elantra, Focus, and Cruze showed up with new styling. Now it's behind but is due for a restyling soon. It seems like it'll be a mini-Optima like these supposedly leaked images: 
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Jan 24, 2012 19:10
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Kinda weird that it has the Serron wheels from the 2012 VW GTI
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Jan 24, 2012 20:49
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jeff8472 posted:Kinda weird that it has the Serron wheels from the 2012 VW GTI Well, considering that that picture dates back from 2009, it's actually the other way around. Though, to be fair, black painting wheel with machined accents has been a thing for awhile. "mod sassinator posted:Personally I think these Korean versions look better than the Civic. The Kia Forte Koup is pretty drat sexy. Drop the 270hp turbo engine Hyundai has in there and I would be really interested.
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Jan 24, 2012 21:38
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Thwomp posted:To be fair, it came out before Kia's Optima styling debuted and started migrating to the rest of the lines. If that's what the new Optima looks like, I will eat my hat. and then I'll buy one...
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Jan 25, 2012 00:27
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kimbo305 posted:Sorta, but not nearly as much as the Forte Koupe: The roofline on the Hyundai is more like the Civic, but otherwise, I agree.
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Evanauto posted:If that's what the new Optima looks like, I will eat my hat. Isn't that pretty much what it does look like, though?  Kia have made some loving stunning cars of late, but my understanding is that they need a new set of tyres to be fun to drive.
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Jan 25, 2012 01:34
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GlenMR posted:Isn't that pretty much what it does look like, though? That's a fantastic looking vehicle. KIA needs to get some AWD going on that and it would be a viable option for me.
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Jan 25, 2012 02:48
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I can't stand how plain the grille is, though. If they moved the logo off the hood area and onto the grille I'd like it much more. Right now it's just this big span of empty space with a shiny frame around it to highlight the awkward shape. I have the same problem with the Optima.
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Jan 25, 2012 03:48
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So the 2012 C&D Lightning Lap is up. There's not much really new or surprising in this years although the new Chryslers have all become much faster. EDIT: Also the X5M gets a better time because it's a truck and just drives on the grass instead of the track? What kind of bullshit is this? Throatwarbler fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Jan 25, 2012 |
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Jan 25, 2012 03:56
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Seat Safety Switch posted:I can't stand how plain the grille is, though. If they moved the logo off the hood area and onto the grille I'd like it much more. Right now it's just this big span of empty space with a shiny frame around it to highlight the awkward shape. I have the same problem with the Optima. I think they designed in that way partially so that people couldn't just swap off the grill to debadge. People still don't yet take KIA/Hyundai seriously enough for people to want to advertise that they drive one. In fact, just today I saw somebody driving like a jackass in one that had badges that looked like a Chinese knockoff of a Lexus badge. I actually like the design of the car a lot. I'd consider a turbo version if they gave it some performance upgrades and a manual transmission. But that will never happen.
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Jan 25, 2012 05:48
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Throatwarbler posted:So the 2012 C&D Lightning Lap is up. There's not much really new or surprising in this years although the new Chryslers have all become much faster. The X5M has a shitload of power (555HP) and a shitload of technology doing what it can to make a rather tall 5,300 lb beast handle as close to a car as it can. It's also $90k+ and should compared against the Cayenne and not really the Jeep.
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Jan 25, 2012 22:41
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I never thought car advertising had too much influence on me. Being pretty into cars, it would take a lot more than a cool slogan or ad to get me to buy one car or brand over another... But this new Audi ad actually makes me feel dirty... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw9ZeXB2uKs I'd think I could see past a lovely ad, but this may actualy keep me from buying an Audi for a long time. At least until I forget this ad exists.
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Jan 26, 2012 21:07
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ynotony posted:I never thought car advertising had too much influence on me. Being pretty into cars, it would take a lot more than a cool slogan or ad to get me to buy one car or brand over another... I kind of like it.
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Jan 26, 2012 21:17
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LTBS posted:I kind of like it. I like the concept, but if they had made it creepier and eerie rather than a comedy piece it would get a lot more respect from me. This Audi new spot is much better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IGmCKxTgSrI ynotony fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Jan 26, 2012 |
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Jan 26, 2012 21:26
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ynotony posted:This Audi new spot is much better: The vampire one isn't bad, it's just sort of bland, but that one is brilliant.
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Jan 26, 2012 22:04
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So BMW's diesel M car is a straight six with TRIPLE turbos. What?
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Jan 27, 2012 00:25
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A5H posted:So BMW's diesel M car is a straight six with TRIPLE turbos. What?
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Lowclock posted:From everything I've read, that's been the confusion but it's actually just a single twin scroll turbo or whatever it's called. Two exhaust input things, one boost output thing. Words are failing me right now. Triple turbos would be simpler than the ludicrous compound sequential setup the 35ds have right now.
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Lowclock posted:From everything I've read, that's been the confusion but it's actually just a single twin scroll turbo or whatever it's called. Two exhaust input things, one boost output thing. Words are failing me right now. I heard two smaller and one larger turbo, but whatever the configuration you have to wonder if it's more of a technology showcase/prototype for the rumored triple turbo six for the new M3. Can't be more efficient than a twin turbo six with high boost.
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Jan 27, 2012 09:23
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ynotony posted:I like the concept, but if they had made it creepier and eerie rather than a comedy piece it would get a lot more respect from me. Being into fishing, I thought this commercial was amazing! I laughed pretty good the first time I saw it. Made me want to go buy a Quattro right then and there!
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Jan 27, 2012 22:33
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I drove a 2012 Mercedes E550 the other day, with the new 4.7L biturbo V8. It's almost as fast as my 2004 E55 AMG, and with a tune/chip it'd undoubtedly be faster. 402hp/450lb-ft of torque stock, and the car is absurdly loving fast for a non-AMG that starts at $59k. Compared to the BMW 550i, I'd say the MB is far ahead in luxury and ride quality, but not quite as fun to drive. I can't wait for them to depreciate to $40k in a couple of years. Incredible car for an incredible value. The 3.5L V6 is supposed to be replaced with a biturbo V6 for the MY13s as well, so that'll make even the base E350 a quick car.
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Jan 30, 2012 01:10
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Honda put out this ad which pays homage to Ferris Bueller's Day Off by giving Matthew Broderick a CR-V. There's probably a metaphor for Honda's own middle age in here, in that they mostly just say "remember the 80s?" now while wistfully looking off into the distance and burping out inoffensive soft-edged garbage like this. I have to give kudos to them allowing the car to bottom out and spark on the road, though.
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Jan 30, 2012 16:17
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Honda put out this ad which pays homage to Ferris Bueller's Day Off by giving Matthew Broderick a CR-V.
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Jan 30, 2012 20:40
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Honda put out this ad which pays homage to Ferris Bueller's Day Off by giving Matthew Broderick a CR-V. More like "remember the 90's?" in terms of Honda's heyday. The commercial was a great idea, however the idea of him replacing a Ferrari with a CRV is just plain stupid. CRV's are an appliance and are in no way shape or form a fun vehicle to drive. A Civic Si would have worked better, though marginally.
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Honda put out this ad which pays homage to Ferris Bueller's Day Off by giving Matthew Broderick a CR-V. I really hate it. John Hughes would never have signed off on that and shame on Broderick for doing it.
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