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hatelull posted:You might just start with In the Court of the Crimson King and then move forward until you get bored. Disagree. Court is a great place to start, but moving forward from there means you'll be bored almost instantaneously---the next record, In the Wake of Poseidon, is meh-to-okay, Lizard is one of those underrated records that I'm not sure if it should be rated at all, and Islands kinda sucks. After that, they completely shift gears, change the lineup around and start getting interesting again. That new lineup, more or less, put out three good-to-phenomenal records, Larks' Tongues in Aspic, Starless and Bible Black and Red. Larks' and Red are both reasonable to start with in that era. Guitar-wise, the Mark 3 and later editions of the group (their work from Discipline onwards) changes up a bit, Belew takes more of the screaming weirdness and solos, Fripp gets more into textural weirdness and such. There's still plenty of material to listen to from those various lineups, but definitely start with Discipline to get a feel for Crimson after the 70s.
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StrungOutFlip posted:The cure? I've been wanting to start a Cure thread for a while, actually. I'll take a quick stab at this. I would start probably with Disintegration and Wish OR The Head on the Door and perhaps one of the collections like Galore or Greatest Hits. The aforementioned are all pretty accessible. The "Dark Trilogy" stuff (Seventeen Seconds, Faith, and Pornography) is a bit more difficult to get into, and strangely I think Pornography is the best of those despite being so abrasive. Their first album, Three Imaginary Boys, is pretty uncharacteristic of the rest of their albums but there's some good post-punk stuff in there. Albums you will either love or hate: The Top and Wild Mood Swings. Both are often the bane of many Cure fans, although I really enjoy the latter. KMKMKM is put on a pedestal by many next to Disintegration but only recently have I really been able to get into it. Their last two albums, 4:13 Dream and The Cure, are basically some pretty good songs mixed in with some pretty bad songs. I feel like the best of those two would have made a solid effort. Bloodflowers is definitely a thing. One part soft rock, one part adult alternative and one part nu-metal or something. Or at least that's what I get out of it. It's a weird one, but "Out of This World" is a great song. Their live albums are generally pretty good, Paris is fantastic although their latest one (from Bestival) is a bit boring. They also have some pretty fantastic B-Sides. Hope that helps.
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Destroy My Sweater posted:I've been wanting to start a Cure thread for a while, actually. You should do this! Although, I fear I would absolutely bag on most of the stuff post-Disintegration.
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Thanks for the African music recs everyone. I listened to Roger the Engineer by The Yardbirds today and that was pretty cool. I have no idea where to go after that, their Spotify page is a mess of compilations and live albums. On top of that, is there any other great '60s/early '70s rock that I may have missed? I'm well familiar with most of the big names (Beatles/Stones/Hendrix/Byrds/Buffalo Springfield)
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Allen Wren posted:Disagree. As far as 80's Crim goes, you can replace it all with the live album Absent Lovers, which is insane (and makes the studio records sound like they drag). IMO there are only really four studio albums that are really worth getting - In the Court, Lizard, Lark's Tongues, and Red. Afterwards, the live albums were better - I dig Absent Lovers, VROOOM VROOOM, and Heavy ConstruKction way more than the respective studio albums (though Discipline is a classic in its own right!)
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That's not an unreasonable opinion to have---I haven't heard most of the live stuff, which I know can be a game-changer when they start improvising or jamming over one thing or another. I'm probably a bit of a weirdass in that, most of the time, I like my records to be studio but I'm all over live video/film. I find a lot of live albums (barring those by bands who generate more live material than studio---jam bands and such) to have really dodgy sound and the applause mixed way too loud, but I can tolerate that when it's on my TV. My concert DVD binder is larger than my movie DVD binder. Which is to say that when I finally start getting some paychecks in, I'm probably grabbing the Neal And Jack And Me DVD. I will say that, definitively, the USA live album is not worth it, though I've heard the box set of live material from that period is. I'm not sure, because I've got one of the Collectors Club CDs from that period and, again, super-dodgetastic sound ruining some great performances (I think part of it is pretty terrible audience tape, so that's where that comes from---it's the July 1 1974 show.)
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I remember seeing ELO somewhere in this thread but I cant seem to find it. Anyone want to link me to that page or just tell me where I should start?
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I'm trying to branch out from my mostly metal diet to others. I like Paul Oakenfold's A Voyage ... into Trance, so I assume that I'll like trance music? What are some good trance bands that are in the same vein as Oakenfold? EDIT: Before I get jumped, do you call trance players DJs and not bands? I've also picked up a The Birthday Massacre album and I like it pretty well. Is this industrial pop or something? lite_sleepr fucked around with this message at 12:09 on Feb 15, 2012 |
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Blast Fantasto posted:
Depends what you classify as great really, I could suggest loads of great rock acts to you from the era. A band that was really in its stride in the late sixties and early seventies that is oft forgotten would be The Kinks , and if you were to start anywhere with them I would say Face to Face . You may also have or have not heard of Creedence Clearwater Revival , another great rock act from the time. All of their albums except Pendulum would be great places to start really, as they are mostly high quality and accessible material, but if I had to say one it would be Cosmo's Factory . Do you count Bowie as rock? If so, Space Oddity is the spacey folk rock album that is missing from everybodies collections. If you are into niche, yet great music then you have The Velvet Underground , the hipsters of the sixties. They don't really fit in, but they have all the experimental ism of the Beatles and Hendrix. The place to start with these guys would be their first, Velvet Underground and Nico , which is an often lauded album, if you can get into the drone and ignore Nico's contributions. The reason I suggest these guys is because they are a great place to branch off into other great, but lesser known acts from the era, as well as influences for many bands that followed. Edit: I have been trying to get into IDM for the past three or so months, and every now and then I seem to hit walls. Outside of the loose classification of what is actually IDM, I listen to... FlyLo (if he fits in), Boards of Canada, Daedelus, Amon Tobin, Aphex Twin and Squarepusher, but I don't know where to go next. I am definitely more interested in the experimental, near psychedelic end of the spectrum, but I will give anything a try. Many thanks to any that assist me. Another Person fucked around with this message at 12:36 on Feb 15, 2012 |
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Another Person posted:I have been trying to get into IDM for the past three or so months, and every now and then I seem to hit walls. Outside of the loose classification of what is actually IDM, I listen to... FlyLo (if he fits in), Boards of Canada, Daedelus, Amon Tobin, Aphex Twin and Squarepusher, but I don't know where to go next. I am definitely more interested in the experimental, near psychedelic end of the spectrum, but I will give anything a try. Based on Amon Tobin and Squarepusher (kind of FlyLo), it sounds like you're into jazzy electronica. Here's a link to an article in which NPR lists five albums "where electronica meets jazz," Cosmogramma being one of them; I can't vouch for each album, but I think they're all worth checking out; this is also the article through which I discovered Amon Tobin's Bricolage, which is now a personal favorite, in the user comments so check those out too. http://www.npr.org/blogs/ablogsupreme/2011/11/14/142306842/do-the-astral-plane-five-songs-where-jazz-meets-electronic-music as far as other IDM essentials, check these out Avalanches-Since I Left You and The Knife-Silent Shout if you haven't already. Most people describe Daft Punk as the ultimate feel-good music, but I think this title is best attributed to Avalanches; Since I Left You is a sprawling soundscape of dance, hip-hop, jazz, found sounds, advert and comedy tapes, etc composed from thousands of vinyl samples... here's the first track http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrdlmHZHIJY . The Knife is like the creepy Grimm Brothers' tales of IDM, and here's the first track off Silent Shout http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a8rrHzQ_AE hope that helped
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Blast Fantasto posted:On top of that, is there any other great '60s/early '70s rock that I may have missed? I'm well familiar with most of the big names (Beatles/Stones/Hendrix/Byrds/Buffalo Springfield) the Zombies- Odyssey & Oracle. it's not rock, but who cares. for '60s garage + hard rock you may like best-of from Tommy James & the Shondells (nice guys), Paul Revere & the Raiders (straight rock) and The Sonics (red-line garage). oh, and grab the Nuggets box set.
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milk teeth posted:for '60s garage + hard rock you may like best-of from Tommy James & the Shondells (nice guys), Paul Revere & the Raiders (straight rock) and The Sonics (red-line garage). oh, and grab the Nuggets box set. I would also recommend Them, the Small Faces and the Animals. Maybe they weren't garage rock, but their earlier albums represented the harder edge of the British Invasion, thanks in no small part to the strong vocal performances of their respective lead singers (Van Morrison, Steve Marriott and Eric Burdon).
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Another Person posted:You may also have or have not heard of Creedence Clearwater Revival , another great rock act from the time. All of their albums except Pendulum would be great places to start really, as they are mostly high quality and accessible material, but if I had to say one it would be Cosmo's Factory . I'm assuming you just forgot that Mardi Gras existed, and aren't actually suggesting that it's even remotely worth listening to. quote:The place to start with these guys would be their first, Velvet Underground and Nico , which is an often lauded album, if you can get into the drone and ignore Nico's contributions. Except that she sang on some of the best songs on the album (especially "All Tomorrow's Parties"), so that's honestly pretty bizarre advice to be giving. Anyway, to give Blast Fantasto more suggestions, another good 60s rock outfit, if you're into psychedelic rock at all, would be The 13th Floor Elevators. Their debut (The Psychedelic Sounds of...) is by far their best, but Easter Everywhere is pretty awesome too. Hell, Pink Floyd's first two albums (Piper at the Gates of Dawn, A Saucerful of Secrets) are also pretty awesome psych rock too (before they started mutating into their 70s space rock sound). For hard rock, definitely check out some of what was coming out of Detroit in the late 60s/early 70s. I forgot you already asked for Stooges recs so I won't repeat that, but definitely also look into the MC5. They never released a bad album, so you might as well start with their debut, Kick Out the Jams, and work your way forward. Ikari Worrier fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Feb 15, 2012 |
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Fun Times! posted:Umphrey's Mcgee Quoting this from the last page cause I'm still curious!
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Thanks for the posts everyone. I guess I should have been more specific about wanting more obscure stuff. I'm already familiar (and a huge fan of) Creedence and The Kinks, and the Velvets are probably up there for my favorite band. BUT I haven't listened to Them, Small Faces, The Animals (other than their hit) and The Zombies (other than THE song). So I'll definitely check those out. And thanks, TheNintenGenius, for that 13th Floor Elevators rec. Piper at the Gates is my favorite Pink Floyd Album so I'll be sure to check that out next.
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TheNintenGenius posted:I'm assuming you just forgot that Mardi Gras existed, and aren't actually suggesting that it's even remotely worth listening to. I did forget Mardi Gras existed. I think I purged it from my mind, can't blame me for that, can you? Basically, anything with John Fogerty in from Creedence is worth a listen. And with the VU and Nico, I meant if you could get past her voice, which has the tonal qualities of nails across a blackboard then you get some amazing songs, ATP included. And to Whooping Crane, I am about to listen to your suggestions, thanks for the help man (or woman, just realised how shortsighted that was...). Edit: Wow, really liked the music that was listed in the article that you suggested, so far it has gone from strength to strength. But most of all, the Avalanches that you suggest I listen to were amazing, thanks Whooping Crane, your help is much appreciated. Another Person fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Feb 16, 2012 |
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Feb 16, 2012 04:46
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Where do I start with The Wedding Present
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Get the early-ish singles compilation (1988-1992?). Then the Tommy compilation and/or George Best and move chronologically through the albums. There's a little bit of a drop off in the mid 90's but if you fall for them you'll like that stuff every bit as much. Then Cinerama. Or just get Bizarro.
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Blast Fantasto posted:On top of that, is there any other great '60s/early '70s rock that I may have missed? I'm well familiar with most of the big names (Beatles/Stones/Hendrix/Byrds/Buffalo Springfield) ? and the Mysterians 96 Tears was their biggest hit. You probably heard one of their other songs, Can't Get Enough of You Baby, as done by Smashmouth. Really cool garage band rock with a prominent VOX keyboard.
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Blast Fantasto posted:On top of that, is there any other great '60s/early '70s rock that I may have missed? I'm well familiar with most of the big names (Beatles/Stones/Hendrix/Byrds/Buffalo Springfield) Love is my personal favorite '60s band, and it hasn't been suggested yet. Forever Changes is their most popular album and doesn't have a bad track on it; it falls into the same pop category as the Beatles, Zombies, and Beach Boys but is musically more mature than the first two in my opinion and lyrically more mature than all the other '60s baroque pop group albums. Not to be forgotten is their previously released De Capo, which demonstrates their original, raw sound before they were influenced by releases like Pet Sounds. Here's the last track off of Forever Changes for a sample: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdELzBV9pyo If 1974 still counts as early '70s, Robert Wyatt's Rock Bottom is an essential listen. Don't expect guitar rock, and do expect some ear-frustration if you're not used to avant-garde leaning stuff. Here's a sample track http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2TUb51oukc There's so much, but here's a final recommendation: CAN is essential early '70s material. Psychedelic, repeating yet dynamic krautrock (more traditional rock than other krautrock groups though). Their three albums Tago Mago, Ege Bamyasi and Future Days are all amazing. Ege Bamyasi is what you should start with, since it's the most accessible; Tago Mago ranges from more traditional rock to abrasive ambient; Future Days is largely ambient, but with traditional instrumentation (vs synths) and is very complex. Jaki Leibezeit is the greatest rock drummer to have graced an album. Here's some samples from each album: Halleluhwah (from Tago Mago): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dZbAFmnRVA Vitamin C (from Ege Bamyasi): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a1NhRbNJ_Y Bel Air (from Future Days): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRzH_3ICuns whooping crane fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Feb 16, 2012 |
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whooping crane posted:Love is my personal favorite '60s band, and it hasn't been suggested yet. Forever Changes is their most popular album and doesn't have a bad track on it; it falls into the same pop category as the Beatles, Zombies, and Beach Boys but is musically more mature than the first two in my opinion and lyrically more mature than all the other '60s baroque pop group albums. Not to be forgotten is their previously released De Capo, which demonstrates their original, raw sound before they were influenced by releases like Pet Sounds. Here's the last track off of Forever Changes for a sample: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdELzBV9pyo Listened to Forever Changes at work today and loved it. I can't believe this band isn't mentioned in the same breath as the others you listed. So good. EDIT: And I'm listening to their first album right now, I think I actually like this more than Forever Changes. It's a little more abrasive in a good way. Blast Fantasto fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Feb 17, 2012 |
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What are the essential Hall and Oates albums? I pretty much like all their singles if that helps any, I don't mind a bit of 80's cheesiness
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I'm not really a big Hall & Oates fan, but as far as I can tell, Voices, Private Eyes and H2O are the albums with most all their best-known hits. The Rock 'N' Soul: Part 1 compilation might be a good option to pursue. It was the greatest hits collection they brought out when they were at the height of their fame.
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Blast Fantasto posted:Listened to Forever Changes at work today and loved it. I can't believe this band isn't mentioned in the same breath as the others you listed. So good. glad you loved Love! Have you given Can or Robert Wyatt a listen; I know they both might not be what you're looking for. Here's a couple more suggestions: Modern Lovers-Modern Lovers was released in 1976 but almost all of the tracks were recorded in '71 and '72 so I'm counting it. It's guitar pop (with an organ!) with some proto-punk sensibilities, with lyrical content ranging from the joy of driving down the highway with the radio on to how much of an rear end in a top hat Pablo Picasso was to how it feels to date a gently caress up with no respect for you. Here's the first track, Roadrunner: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgRYncR1Nog Exuma-Exuma is the anathema of '60s/'70s folk rock. All I can say is that it's got a lot of elements of traditional American folk rock, and a lot of Bahamanian music that makes it weird at points. Campy sound samples are also a prominent feature (of wolves, zombies, and the like). All anyone can say to describe it is say that it's obeah music. First Track: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-4gnxxtPtI Finally for this post, the Stooges. You said you were aware of the big guys, so I hope you're aware of them. Never has a musician's career been such a downward spiral as it has for Iggy, and it is the funnest thing to listen to. Proto-punk with some blues and funk influence in their first two albums; on Raw Power (IMO the best) they dropped all influences and made a very original wall of sound that reflects the title very well. I would be willing to argue that the Stooges are the most influential band since the '70s... From Stooges (I Wanna Be Your Dog): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJIqnXTqg8I From Fun House (1970): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNVmV3KtrSc From Raw Power (Death Trip): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgPEk6ZWeW0 whooping crane fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Feb 18, 2012 |
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As for Hall and Oates, H20 and Big Bam Boom would be the two albums to go for (their two multi-platinum albums). But, it sounds like you're looking for the singles in which case I would second the opinion to go with Rock 'n Soul Part 1 or the VH1 Hall and Oates Behind the Music compilation
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Hall & Oates are the definiton of a singles band, and I say that as someone unashamed to say I like and have seen them in concert. I would pick up Rock & Soul, Part 1 as suggested. H20 and Big Bam Boom are alright, but their albums have so much filler on them. Beyond that, I'd check out their really underrated '70s stuff which peaks with Abandoned Luncheonette. Generally, their '70s albums are much better than their '80s works, but the '80s stuff produced better singles. So really with Rock & Soul and Abandoned Luncheonette you'd be set.
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whooping crane posted:Finally for this post, the Stooges. Dude, he specifically asked about them earlier in the thread. That's why I didn't bring them up when I suggested he check out the MC5. To add a bit of substance to this post, for more 60s rock fun you could always check out The Turtles. Mostly their album The Turtles Present the Battle of the Bands, where all the time that Howard Kaylan and Mark Volmann spent hanging out with Frank Zappa paid off and they decided to release an album that's sheer, beginning-to-end mockery of what was popular in music at that point in time (and it's all great songs too). Of course if you want more 60s rock that completely torpedoes 60s rock, there's always Zappa's own run of albums with the original Mothers of Invention lineup (from Freak Out! up to Weasels Ripped My Flesh), particularly We're Only in It for the Money, where Zappa just thoroughly dismantles the entire concept of the Summer of Love by way of mocking everything from empty hippie idealism to the faux-hippies who were only in it for the free drugs and sex to the corporations exploiting the hippies for cash to the pig-ignorant authorities stomping all over everything with jackboots. Ikari Worrier fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Feb 18, 2012 |
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I've always wanted to start listening to classical music, at least as reading music (which is like 75% of my music listening time at this point), but I have no idea where to start. I just don't know a drat thing about classical music. I've listened to my local classical station a bit but everything sounds so... happy. I'm not much of a fan of happy or upbeat music for the most part. I like downbeat, depressing or at least contemplative/introspective music. While not classical, the bands Stars of the Lid and A Winged Victory for the Sullen really exemplify what I'd like from classical music, except not nearly as ambient of course.
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whooping crane posted:Robert Wyatt On the subject of Robert Wyatt, I listened to Rock Bottom and loved it, where should I go next?
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tinaun posted:On the subject of Robert Wyatt, I listened to Rock Bottom and loved it, where should I go next? I haven't listened to anything else by Robert Wyatt, so I can't help out with the rest of his discography. However, I think you might like Tim Buckley's Lorca a lot (Jeff Buckley's more talented father). It's the first album I can think of that sounds most similar to Rock Bottom. Here's the title track: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKX9uwTxUNM Rock Bottom is pretty unique, now that I have to think of similar albums. You might also try John Cale's Paris 1919 ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9IKnVVRsmk ); Scott Walker's The Drift ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5hvHEBLNpI ); and then if you like all those suggestions try out Tim Buckley's Starsailor and Scott Walker's 4.
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Also, the guy looking for more sixties greatness, now is a perfectly good time to get to know good ol' [b] Bob Dylan [/] more than any other. If you only know him through the singles and highlights then you simply do not know him. Get on Spotify (if you can) and quickly give some of his early albums a listen. Some extremely high quality material on them that you would miss from just the singles. This is the guy that influenced the entire generation you are listening to get up and get stuff done. My reasoning for saying now is a good time? Usually when I check him on Spotify he has no albums available, he seems to keep it private. Not today though, today they were all just on there. And I have not listened to anything else all day. Hell, I have listened to his first album three times today alone. Edit: Also, I second the Tim Buckley suggestion to any of you. That voice was something else.
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tinaun posted:On the subject of Robert Wyatt, I listened to Rock Bottom and loved it, where should I go next? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJWwjksiHl0 matching mole https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzJwryxoob4 soft machine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN8pyoCj5rQ
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Conduit for Sale! posted:I've always wanted to start listening to classical music, at least as reading music (which is like 75% of my music listening time at this point), but I have no idea where to start. I just don't know a drat thing about classical music. I've listened to my local classical station a bit but everything sounds so... happy. I'm not much of a fan of happy or upbeat music for the most part. I like downbeat, depressing or at least contemplative/introspective music. There's a ton of great music written by 20th and 21st century classical composers that should suit your interest in crossing over from ambient music. Some of it absolutely is as ambient as anything you'll find SotL doing. For instance, The Sinking of the Titanic by Gavin Bryars, a huge influence on SotL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oVMRADOq5s Erik Satie, John Cage, and Morton Feldman should be up your alley. They all wrote crazily insistent understated piano music (along with a ton of great stuff for other instruments) Satie Gymnopedies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7DBoiyBoJ8 [just checking dates, this is actually late 19th century and not 20th at all. oh well] Cage In a Landscape: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF1DoVdHM9M Feldman Palais de Mari: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKBYWeOJUHw Sometimes Poles make really somber, pretty music Karol Szymanowski, Stabat Mater: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve-LLzhKXR4 Henryk Gorecki, Symphony No. 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVITZUQ_uIU (super famous piece) Witold Lutoslawski, Symphony No. 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8JkBus_sjk (very mysterious sounding) You won't hear a lot of 20th century music on classical radio (although you will hear some), but it can still be a good source to learn from. Often what you're hearing is a movement taken from a larger work, and the other movements of that work probably contrast with it in some way, and very well might be slower and more melancholy. So if you hear something interesting note it down and see if it's part of a larger work. Dr. Video Games 0081 fucked around with this message at 09:00 on Feb 19, 2012 |
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dailydares posted:Where do I start with The Wedding Present I started with Seamonsters, which is a little "harsher" than their other stuff, but that's mostly due to the Steve Albini guitar/drums production- the core of the music isn't really that different than their other stuff. The two albums surrounding that- Bizarro and Watusi are awesome as well, the former having awesome rhythm guitar throughout and the latter being a great example of their poppy side.
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I've been hunting for new music lately, and I realized that while I've listened to a lot of older rap groups (NaS, ATCQ, Wu-Tang, Guru and so on), I don't know anthing about Tupac. Where should I start with his stuff and should I bother with any of the posthumous releases?
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Fruits of the sea posted:I've been hunting for new music lately, and I realized that while I've listened to a lot of older rap groups (NaS, ATCQ, Wu-Tang, Guru and so on), I don't know anthing about Tupac. Where should I start with his stuff and should I bother with any of the posthumous releases? My personal favorite is the All Eyez On Me double album which was probably his best-selling release, although there's much to be said for the preceding album Me Against The World and particularly his first, 2Pacalypse Now. The Makavelli album, The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory, is pretty dark but solid. As far as his posthumous stuff goes, the only one I know well is Better Dayz which is pretty good all told. The production is a little more "modern" although you can definitely tell that Tupac's input is missing and more of his Outlawz friends are filling in the cracks. R U Still Down? (Remember Me) and Until The End of Time have also done well although I don't know much about the releases. So, tl;dr get the double-disc Greatest Hits collection for a decent overview if you're not certain, but All Eyez On Me and 2Pacalypse Now are great starting points if you want to hear what he can do with a full head of steam and a book of rhyme pages.
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tinaun posted:On the subject of Robert Wyatt, I listened to Rock Bottom and loved it, where should I go next? Gonna claim myself as the unofficial Soft Machine/Robert Wyatt fanboy here. If you really like Rock Bottom then I suggest the following: Robert Wyatt - Shleep Robert Wyatt - Comicopera Soft Machine - Volume I and Volume II Matching Mole - Matching Mole And if all of this is well and good, then grab Robert Wyatt - Cuckooland - This album can drag a lil bit, but has lots of brilliant moments. Especially the track Old Europe. And if you happen to really like the weirdo Zappa inspired jazzyness of Soft Machine II then Third is an absolute stellar album. It's an amazing record anyway, but it's not everyone's thing. Regardless, Moon in June is a standout Wyatt track that's full of his vocals and weirdness that stands apart from the rest of the material (in a good way). He actually went to record all of the organ and bass parts himself since Hopper and Ratcliff wanted nothing to do with "another pop song". While the entire album of Nothing Can Stop Us is hit or miss (much of the material is pro Communist stuff after he joined the Party), there is an absolutely stellar rendition of Strange Fruit. The saddest of all is that we'll never hear what the third Matching Mole album was to be like. Wyatt wanted to move away from the avant-psyche jazz/improv of the first two albums and recruited a sax player and a classical pianist in place of the previous guitar player/organ player. And last, but not least, if you just in general like the quirky/weird/jazzy undertones of Robert's style, I could suggest: Caravan's If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You In the same "scene" and Wyatt/Soft Machine/Matching Mole/Caravan had some overlapping members. Favorite album of mine. Zuhzuhzombie!! fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Feb 20, 2012 |
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Feb 20, 2012 15:56
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I was listening to Booker T and the MGs version of "I Got A Woman" at work today, got me thinking. What's a good Ray Charles album or comp to start with? I'd just jump in, but then I might replicate that disaster where I bought that Ray Charles Singers record at Goodwill...
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Feb 20, 2012 17:51
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Actually for Hall & Oates I recommend The Very Best Of Daryl Hall And John Oates which has everything you need from Rock 'n Soul Part 1. It's only missing "She's Gone" but makes up for that with "Did It in a Minute" and all the hits from Big Bam Boom except "Possession Obsession".
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Feb 20, 2012 18:03
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Blast Fantasto posted:I was listening to Booker T and the MGs version of "I Got A Woman" at work today, got me thinking. You could almost try the Ray soundtrack, which isn't comprehensive but functions as a fairly good sampler of some of his best known songs. Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Feb 20, 2012 |
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Feb 20, 2012 18:07
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