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movax
Aug 30, 2008

Nebakenezzer posted:

This is what kind of sad nerd I am: I was browsing this and said to myself "Ohhhh, they covered the He 177!"

Oh, and a friend sent me this: a story about the SR-71 we have not had yet. Low flying is involved.

Hahah, holy poo poo that story owned. Pretty much falling vs. actually turning and hitting the burners just in time. I pictured something similar to the Galactica dropping in over New Caprica in my head...

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Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
It sounds like something from a Michael Bay movie. loving sick.

co199
Oct 28, 2009

I AM A LOUSY FUCKING COMPUTER JANITOR WHO DOES NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CYBER COMPUTER HACKER SHIT.

PLEASE DO NOT LISTEN TO MY FUCKING AWFUL OPINIONS AS I HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.
"gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress" FWOOOOOOMP

PhotoKirk
Jul 2, 2007

insert witty text here

joat mon posted:

A very good writeup on the Airacuda.

and a bunch more articles on all sorts of common and uncommon aircraft, mostly from the 1940s

Second Quarter 2008 has the XB-51. :woop:

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

PhotoKirk posted:

Second Quarter 2008 has the XB-51. :woop:

2Q 2010 has the XP-56.

A flying wing
looking like an Me-163
radial powered with counter-rotating pusher props
top speed (projected) 435mph
in 1943.


Bonus:
contract competitors,
XP-54


and XP-55.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

joat mon posted:

and XP-55.


Weren't the Japanese working on something a lot like this towards the end of the war?

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

I have a strange urge to play crimson skies now

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Phy posted:

Weren't the Japanese working on something a lot like this towards the end of the war?

The Kyushu J7W





The Smithsonian has one in storage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGZ77qV0Mvo

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
so many intakes

PhotoKirk
Jul 2, 2007

insert witty text here

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

so many intakes

Looks like a mid '90s Pontiac.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.
The robot quadrotors at UPenn are doing music, now. They've started to learn at a geometric rate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sUeGC-8dyk

Richard Bong
Dec 11, 2008

Phanatic posted:

The robot quadrotors at UPenn are doing music, now. They've started to learn at a geometric rate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sUeGC-8dyk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-dkonAXOlQ&feature=related

They have larger quad rotors that the smaller ones can land on. These things are so cool. Though the buzz of the tiny motors is slightly unsettling, knowing that they are "learning".

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
I completely expect their next video to be straight-up manhacks.

Suicide Watch
Sep 8, 2009


so gay for corsairs :supaburn:

e: was there specific USN doctrine during WW2 to use radial engines over piston? hellcats and corsairs just look so stubby compared to the sleeker mustangs and airacobras. even the RN FAA used seafires and sea hurricanes...

Suicide Watch fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Mar 3, 2012

Used Sunlight sales
Jun 5, 2006

Warfighter Approved

Suicide Watch posted:


e: was there specific USN doctrine during WW2 to use radial engines over piston? hellcats and corsairs just look so stubby compared to the sleeker mustangs and airacobras. even the RN FAA used seafires and sea hurricanes...

I'd guess packaging and space requirements for carrier aviation, but I have nothing to back that up.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Suicide Watch posted:

e: was there specific USN doctrine during WW2 to use radial engines over piston?

What, inline engines don't have pistons any more?

There was indeed a reason, and it can be best described as "loving military procurement bullshit". Wiki:

quote:

In the US, NACA noted in 1920 that air-cooled radials could offer an increase in the power-to-weight ratio and reliability, and by 1921 the US Navy had announced it would only order aircraft fitted with air-cooled radials while other naval air arms followed suit ...

So basically something that was true at one point remained doctrine 25 years later because of inertia and stubborn old men.

Space Gopher
Jul 31, 2006

BLITHERING IDIOT AND HARDCORE DURIAN APOLOGIST. LET ME TELL YOU WHY THIS SHIT DON'T STINK EVEN THOUGH WE ALL KNOW IT DOES BECAUSE I'M SUPER CULTURED.

Suicide Watch posted:

e: was there specific USN doctrine during WW2 to use radial engines over piston? hellcats and corsairs just look so stubby compared to the sleeker mustangs and airacobras. even the RN FAA used seafires and sea hurricanes...

You mean "inline," right?

Besides the packaging issues Used Sunlight sales mentioned, reliability was big, as well (especially back in the 20s when they adopted the "radials only" thing). Air-cooled radials don't have to worry about a potentially unreliable cooling system, and many of them could take horrifying amounts of damage before they stopped working.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

Well, you also have to remember that carriers were much smaller back then, including the tiny escort carriers they were running, and they needed to cram as many planes as they could on each boat. That meant making sure the support facilities took as little space and personnel as possible.

By focusing on one type of engine, from one manufacturer, with huge parts commonality between them all, they could simplify the supply lines across the ocean, training, shop space, flexibility, etc. And thats basically what they did, variations of the P&W Wasp powered basically 80% of the US carrier planes. Hellcat and Corsair had Double Wasps, Wildcat, SBD, TBD, and Catalina all used the Twin Wasp. Avenger and Hell Diver used the widely similar Wright Twin Cyclone, too.

Slo-Tek
Jun 8, 2001

WINDOWS 98 BEAT HIS FRIEND WITH A SHOVEL
Radials also were famous for taking a lot of battle damage and still coming home. Tons of pictures of pistons shot clean off, whereas liquid-cooled engines and radiators had a lot more parts that they could not fly without.

pkells
Sep 14, 2007

King of Klatch
I was driving down I-10 outside of Mobile, AL earlier today and saw large battleship docked next to a park on display. More importantly, I saw a sleek, black, 2-engine recon jet parked nearby, so I had to pull off the highway and check it out.

I present to you Lockheed A-12 #06938:



I took more pics of it, but they're still on my camera. Overall, the display area was pretty cool. The BB USS Alabama was open for tours, along with the the sub, the USS Drum. Besides the A-12, my favorite part was groping an F-14A that was on display inside that hanger.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Tried the scale modeling thread and no luck.

Does anyone know where one could find detailed wing and fuselage profiles of a BF-109? (preferably an F-G model) I'm thinking of making a large scale balsa model from scratch and for the love of me I can't seem to find any decent blueprints that would be appropriate to use as a template.

Example of what I'm looking for.



Something like this could work, but it's pretty low-rez and reference points would be nice to know the spacing of the ribs and fuselage panels.

p.s. Free ones, I am equal parts cheap and poor.

PREYING MANTITS
Mar 13, 2003

and that's how you get ants.

Blistex posted:

Does anyone know where one could find detailed wing and fuselage profiles of a BF-109? (preferably an F-G model)

I don't know if these will help at all, but it's all I could find:
http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/bf109f.html
http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/bf109gkflug.html

The F one at least has a couple sheets with exploded parts though the accompanying text isn't in english.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

PREYING MANTITS posted:

I don't know if these will help at all, but it's all I could find:
http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/bf109f.html
http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/bf109gkflug.html

The F one at least has a couple sheets with exploded parts though the accompanying text isn't in english.

That's the kind of stuff I'm looking for, the pic with the wing and fuselage profile, thanks. Would be nice to find a 5mb PNG version with every rib and spar in it though.

n0tqu1tesane
May 7, 2003

She was rubbing her ass all over my hands. They don't just do that for everyone.
Grimey Drawer

pkells posted:

I was driving down I-10 outside of Mobile, AL earlier today and saw large battleship docked next to a park on display. More importantly, I saw a sleek, black, 2-engine recon jet parked nearby, so I had to pull off the highway and check it out.

I present to you Lockheed A-12 #06938:



I took more pics of it, but they're still on my camera. Overall, the display area was pretty cool. The BB USS Alabama was open for tours, along with the the sub, the USS Drum. Besides the A-12, my favorite part was groping an F-14A that was on display inside that hanger.

They must be doing work on the Aircraft Pavilion, because usually those are inside.

It's been a few years since I've visited over there, which is a shame since I live 10 minutes away.

PREYING MANTITS
Mar 13, 2003

and that's how you get ants.

pkells posted:

I was driving down I-10 outside of Mobile, AL earlier today and saw large battleship docked next to a park on display. More importantly, I saw a sleek, black, 2-engine recon jet parked nearby, so I had to pull off the highway and check it out.

I present to you Lockheed A-12 #06938

I keep meaning to check that out, there's also the Tuskegee Hanger One Museum down that way too.

There's an A-12 in Huntsville at the US Space & Rocket Center too (6930) but unfortunately it isn't nearly as well taken care of as the one in your photo. It looks quite neglected these days.

PREYING MANTITS fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Mar 4, 2012

thesurlyspringKAA
Jul 8, 2005

Nebakenezzer posted:

This is what kind of sad nerd I am: I was browsing this and said to myself "Ohhhh, they covered the He 177!"

Oh, and a friend sent me this: a story about the SR-71 we have not had yet. Low flying is involved.

Wow, what a loving terrible pilot. If an aircraft commander ever did that to me I'd probably go straight to the wing safety office about it.

Infinotize
Sep 5, 2003

thesurlyspringKAA posted:

Wow, what a loving terrible pilot. If an aircraft commander ever did that to me I'd probably go straight to the wing safety office about it.

yeah I bet that guy was a total hack

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

thesurlyspringKAA posted:

Wow, what a loving terrible pilot. If an aircraft commander ever did that to me I'd probably go straight to the wing safety office about it.

oh hey look its that guy

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

thesurlyspringKAA posted:

Wow, what a loving terrible pilot. If an aircraft commander ever did that to me I'd probably go straight to the wing safety office about it.

Aww, did some godddamn son-of-a-bitch make you spill your coffee?

Richard Bong
Dec 11, 2008
DAMMIT MAVERICK!!

Preoptopus
Aug 25, 2008

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трø ÿþ трø ÿþûþÑÂúø
WINGSUIT MADNESS. Guys are just.... loving crazy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xmlAW_1hgT8!

@3:40 its just.... :supaburn:

I think its the guy from the "Grinding the Crack" Video

*no, Sail is not the song they play.

Preoptopus fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Mar 6, 2012

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
Make fun of the guy all you want but he's right. The story is only cool because they all lived to tell about it.

I'm a flight safety guy and I totally think the story is cool but an entirely legitimate call for USAF Safety to get involved had someone brought it through the proper channels.

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed
College Slice

Preoptopus posted:

WINGSUIT MADNESS. Guys are just.... loving crazy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xmlAW_1hgT8!

@3:40 its just.... :supaburn:

I think its the guy from the "Grinding the Crack" Video

*no, Sail is not the song they play.
"Grinding the Crack" is Jeb Corliss. Here's a video (filmed by the same guy who did the video above) of Corliss taking it a bit too close at Table Mountain and slamming into a ridgeline, breaking his legs. No gore or screaming or anything like that, it's uploaded by Corliss himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEFCQRwj28w

The Electronaut
May 10, 2009
Speaking of wingsuits, got a shot of a little ol' PAC 750 flying away a week ago.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Preoptopus posted:

WINGSUIT MADNESS. Guys are just.... loving crazy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xmlAW_1hgT8!

:stare:

Tremblay
Oct 8, 2002
More dog whistles than a Petco

The Electronaut posted:

Speaking of wingsuits, got a shot of a little ol' PAC 750 flying away a week ago.


Are you coming out for the artistic comp in Apr?

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.
F-16 showing how it got its nickname:



Advent Horizon posted:

Which nickname is that? The Lawn Dart was the F-104.

The F-16 has the same nickname.

http://www.f-16.net/articles_article10.html

quote:

Of course the F-16 is also known by a variety of other, less commonly used, nicknames:

Lawn Dart: Caused by a higher number of mishaps experienced in the early years.

Phanatic fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Mar 8, 2012

Advent Horizon
Jan 17, 2003

I’m back, and for that I am sorry

Which nickname is that? The Lawn Dart was the F-104.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Silly, the nick he's referring to is the F16 Excavator

I have no idea

Is that the one that ran off the runway at Oshkosh?

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grover
Jan 23, 2002

PEW PEW PEW
:circlefap::circlefap::circlefap:
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How did F-16 get the name "Viper"? The wikipedia explanation is weak, there's got to be a better story behind it.

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