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Logikv9 posted:Anybody getting some horrible performance issues from their 3g/4g xooms? I tried downloading one of those app supplementals at the same time I was listening to music and looking at news apps, and the whole contraption was lagging horribly. The music was sputtering, the apps took forever to load (and then finally crashed if I tried to exit). It was frankly embarrassing to use. ICS makes it a whole new device, even one of those unofficial XDA roms. I am using EOS and I would never go back to a Honeycomb device, ever.
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dissss posted:Remember the original (fat) Galaxy Tab 10.1? No one else does because the revised (slim) 10.1 came out very soon after. I remember. I remember it because Samsung horribly underestimated the market's desire/Android's need for decent hardware and was forced to update a product it hadn't even launched because the iPad 2 left it for dead. I don't think Samsung is even going to bother trying, and if they were going to make a decent effort with a tablet that can compete, we should have seen it before today. You might see one as a Jellybean flagship device though, not sure how far away that is from going down. Put in the same 'probably/maybe' pile most of these tablets seem to end up in 
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Did Samsung announce anything really new other than a re-release of the 10.1 and a 10.1 with a stylus?
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The Xoom LTE upgrades are ending March 31st, I would expect the ICS upgrade to come after that. There has been evidence that ONLY LTE upgraded Xooms are going to get the update moving forward, so it would make sense for them to delay the push until all the upgrades are done.
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Don Lapre posted:Did Samsung announce anything really new other than a re-release of the 10.1 and a 10.1 with a stylus? Nope, really underwhelming.
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Well there's always this:quote:Samsung could be lining up announce the launch of the Samsung Galaxy Tab 11.6 tomorrow, bringing the new iPad's resolutionary reign to an abrupt halt. http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/44823/samsung-galaxy-tab-11-6-launching-tomorrow BGR also had a story about it back in December. Vagrancy fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Mar 8, 2012 |
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Mar 8, 2012 17:07
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bull3964 posted:There has been evidence that ONLY LTE upgraded Xooms are going to get the update moving forward, so it would make sense for them to delay the push until all the upgrades are done. What possible reason could Motorola have for doing this. This is a serious question btw.
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^^^^^ Yea that seems weird. Seems like it would just needlessly block out people who didn't see a need for the LTE upgrade. Yea, I remember reading about that back when BGR first broke it. That's what they needed to announce and release at MWC. Not their lovely 10.1 rehashes. Codiusprime fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Mar 8, 2012 |
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golgo13sf posted:What possible reason could Motorola have for doing this. This is a serious question btw. Not motorola, google. Both the Wifi and LTE Xoom are GEDs and get their updates directly from google. I'm guessing they don't want to maintain a separate code branch for the 3g only Xoom.
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bull3964 posted:Not motorola, google. That makes sense.
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bull3964 posted:The Xoom LTE upgrades are ending March 31st, I would expect the ICS upgrade to come after that. It seems much more likely that Google's grand 4.0.4 bugfix is the cause of the delay: quote:At this point it's all bugfixing. I know there are some kernel and some telephony issues being looked at, dunno the details. https://twitter.com/#!/jbqueru/status/175712809684971521 "Telephony issues" most probably refers to the 3g/4g handoff issues the Verizon Galaxy Nexus suffered. Which is to say if they pushed 4.0.3 out to the LTE Xoom like they did with the Wifi, the exact same problem would manifest.
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Google isn't going to dump support for people who didn't opt for the LTE upgrade. They may be "rename Android Market to Play Store" stupid but they aren't THAT stupid.
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Vagrancy posted:Well there's always this: According to Droid Life: Samsung is Unveiling Angry Birds Space Tomorrow, Not an 11.6-inch Retina Display Tablet
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ModestMuse posted:According to Droid Life: Samsung is Unveiling Angry Birds Space Tomorrow, Not an 11.6-inch Retina Display Tablet Oh Samsung....
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Codiusprime posted:That makes sense.  No it does not.God help me I am actually agreeing with Rastor.
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Rastor posted:Google isn't going to dump support for people who didn't opt for the LTE upgrade. They may be "rename Android Market to Play Store" stupid but they aren't THAT stupid. Maybe, but prior to the removal of Toro and Stingray images from Google code page (when they removed CDMA devices) only LTE upgraded Xooms would work with AOSP complied code. I believe that is still the case on the custom ROM scene. Any AOSP derived ROM for Stingray only works on 4g upgraded Xooms.
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bull3964 posted:Maybe, but prior to the removal of Toro and Stingray images from Google code page (when they removed CDMA devices) only LTE upgraded Xooms would work with AOSP complied code. That is mental. I can see not including features that only apply to a tablet with 4g, but these are effectively the exact same tablets with 1 difference. It's absurdity on the level of Monty Python. Xoom owners should be livid. Are you guys seriously just that beaten down that you can't muster up any outrage anymore?
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golgo13sf posted:Are you guys seriously just that beaten down that you can't muster up any outrage anymore? What has outrage accomplished so far?
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Rastor posted:they aren't THAT stupid. Look at that thing you just wrote 
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Motorola themselves has said the Wifi XOOM will see ICS so...
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Splizwarf posted:What has outrage accomplished so far? We stopped SOPA  .(sort of)
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Splizwarf posted:What has outrage accomplished so far? Nothing I guess, but a good yell can be very therapeutic
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golgo13sf posted:
Yea, on third thought you're right. That's pretty loving stupid.
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So the only XOOM officially supported by Google is the wifi version because of the whole CDMA thing?
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golgo13sf posted:
Why should there be outrage? There have been 9 months send your Xoom into Motorola to get it upgraded to LTE and it's a quick 4 day turnaround to get it back. If you haven't done that, I doubt you are very interested in the ICS upgrade too. ThermoPhysical posted:So the only XOOM officially supported by Google is the wifi version because of the whole CDMA thing? No, it's the same situation as the Galaxy Nexus and Verizon. Google officially supports the LTE Xoom, they just can't distributed the images on their code site due to the CDMA bits necessary.
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ThermoPhysical posted:So the only XOOM officially supported by Google is the wifi version because of the whole CDMA thing? If it's anything like the "whole CDMA thing" with the LTE Nexus, then it is a bunch of whining about nothing. Or, you know, evidence of our beaten down Android psyches 
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bull3964 posted:Why should there be outrage? There have been 9 months send your Xoom into Motorola to get it upgraded to LTE and it's a quick 4 day turnaround to get it back. If you haven't done that, I doubt you are very interested in the ICS upgrade too. Really? I'm not trolling here, I am trying to figure this attitude out. Say you bought your Xoom sans 4g and then realized "poo poo, it's nice and all to have 4g I guess, but I don't really see myself needing it", so you don't bother with the upgrade. This does not dump you in the category of people who don't care about ICS, you might very much like OS updates without caring about 4g. And now you are poo poo out of luck? C'mon man, it's the same loving device. You write code for 4g and check if the chip is available.
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This argument is loving stupid. There is NO loving WAY some Xooms are going to keep getting updates and others aren't (other than the fact of Verizon devices getting updates later than Wifi devices).
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Rastor posted:This argument is loving stupid. There is NO loving WAY some Xooms are going to keep getting updates and others aren't (other than the fact of Verizon devices getting updates later than Wifi devices). We will see. The only thing we have to go on at this point is AOSP builds are not compatible with non-upgraded Xooms. In order for them to support the 3G only Xooms, Google will have to change the code to fix that prior to the release of ICS. It may happen, but to currently available information we just know that AOSP builds don't work with non-LTE upgraded Xooms so it's not a huge leap to make. As far as Google is concerned, there's one model of Verizon Xoom and it has LTE. golgo13sf posted:Really? I'm not trolling here, I am trying to figure this attitude out. You asked why all Xoom owner's aren't outraged. I have nothing to be outraged about. I wasn't wronged. If it turns out that ICS requires the LTE upgrade, it's unfortunate for those who didn't upgrade during the free period. I'm sure motorola will probably still upgrade your Xoom for you for a nominal fee though. bull3964 fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Mar 8, 2012 |
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Has anyone torn apart a LTE and an EVDO xoom and seen what they actually do?
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bull3964 posted:to currently available information we just know that AOSP builds don't work with non-LTE upgraded Xooms so it's not a huge leap to make.
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Don Lapre posted:Has anyone torn apart a LTE and an EVDO xoom and seen what they actually do? They install a hardware module daughter card. Technically, when the upgrade occurs, your Xoom goes from being an MZ600 to an MZ602. I slightly misspoke before, there is a Team EOS 4.0 AOSP rom out now for the MZ600. It's important to note though that the EOS rom for the MZ600 and MZ602 are completely separate. They are not cross compatible. Unless something changes, two different ROM images will be needed for the MZ600 and MZ602 for ICS. Google DIDN'T have both available when they had the Stingray code posted prior to pulling the CDMA devices so it is unclear that they will be supporting MZ600 going forward.
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If you don't care enough about getting what's coming to you that you don't take the free LTE upgrade on a Xoom, are you going to care enough about getting ICS that you're going to get outraged about it?
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Vykk.Draygo posted:Does the Transformer Prime with ICS have as big of a problem with random boot-looping that the TF101 does? At least every other day, I'll open up my tablet to find it on the ASUS boot screen with either the spinning loading circle, or the circle will be frozen. The weird thing is it seems to murder my dock battery but not really affect the tablet battery. Its going on ebay tonight as I have ordered an iPad. I'm done with this thing.
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ICS is still coming to wifi and 3G xooms though...I don't get what all the fuss is about?
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kitten smoothie posted:If you don't care enough about getting what's coming to you that you don't take the free LTE upgrade on a Xoom, are you going to care enough about getting ICS that you're going to get outraged about it? I bet there's some people out there who don't care at all about LTE but would be interested in ICS, yeah. Like people who don't want to pay for or can't afford a data plan, or are in non-LTE markets, or aren't willing to give the tablet up for that long. I think it's a safe assumption that you won't need to mail it in to get ICS installed. I think it's silly to assume that such people doesn't exist. v  v
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hotsauce posted:I reformatted twice before doing a clean ICS install and mine reboots at least once a day. Also when used with the keyboard dock it reboots all the time. This morning I woke to it on the dock, frozen on the Asus boot screen. It was red hot and the battery was nearly drained. That's loving ridiculous. You should have let it keep going, maybe it would have caught on fire or something and you could sue.
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hotsauce posted:I reformatted twice before doing a clean ICS install and mine reboots at least once a day. Also when used with the keyboard dock it reboots all the time. This morning I woke to it on the dock, frozen on the Asus boot screen. It was red hot and the battery was nearly drained. I thought you returned it to amazon a long time ago?
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Don Lapre posted:I thought you returned it to amazon a long time ago? Apparently he prefers to have someone else deal with it, and only for 500 bucks.  Have you ever considered returning it to factory?
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The Angry Spaniard posted:Apparently he prefers to have someone else deal with it, and only for 500 bucks. Asus RMA department is loving horrible.
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