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Reports coming in that tensions are returning to the Damascus suburbs. http://news.yahoo.com/syrian-revolt-simmers-outside-capital-184505340.html
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Xandu posted:I'd like to request that Bashar al-Assad only be referred to as the dude from now on. How do you call someone 'the dude' in arabics?
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Mar 16, 2012 21:13
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Xandu posted:I'd like to request that Bashar al-Assad only be referred to as the dude from now on. The Dude minds. This will not stand, you know, this rebellion will not stand, man.
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Mar 16, 2012 21:42
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The funny thing is, "dude" sounds VERY close to the word for "worm" in Arabic.
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suboptimal posted:The funny thing is, "dude" sounds VERY close to the word for "worm" in Arabic. How do you call someone Big Perm in Arabic?
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Mar 16, 2012 22:33
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This is great. http://www.arabist.net/blog/2012/3/16/looking-through-walls.html
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Mar 16, 2012 22:41
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From the Assad email cache, this published by al-Arabiya. This is pretty damning of Nir Rosen. He appears to be informing on the movements of both western journalists and local rebels to someone named Khaled al-Ahmad in the Syrian government. I couldn't quite translate the last part, but it doesn't seem that relevant . quote:According to a proven source that met with leaders of groups in Baba Amr today, a large shipment of weapons from Libya will arrive on the coast of one of the neighboring countries in the next three days that's to be smuggled into Syria. It contains sophisticated weapons and is most likely to be at one of the illegal ports in Tripoli. The groups are instructed to ease the clashes with the state to ensure the survival of their fighters until those weapons arrive. Nir Rosen has been able to enter Baba Amr (closed [I think in the sense that it's locked down/surrounded]) and told me that several Western press delegations that entered the area after illegally crossing the Lebanese border, including a French and a German journalist and that the fighters freely roam the streets, especially those calling themselves the Khalid ibn al-Walid Brigade, which proposed the establishment of a special operations room to oversee the checkpoints and the military cordon.... Almost as interestingly, the Guardian decided to censor his name when they published the document. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/14/bashar-al-assad-syria7 edit: There's also this email, which references the one above and refers to the fact that he received cover from this Khaled guy to travel around Syria. 
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Mar 17, 2012 05:58
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Warbadger posted:This one got taken down, anybody find a rehost? I too would like to see that video. If it indeed shows an "anti tank missile" that might mean those arms are finally getting to the rebels from Qatar or Saudi Arabia. If its just an rpg, well the rebels already have those.
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Charliegrs posted:I too would like to see that video. If it indeed shows an "anti tank missile" that might mean those arms are finally getting to the rebels from Qatar or Saudi Arabia. If its just an rpg, well the rebels already have those. I watched the video before it got taken down, and it was the same launcher as the video 'Destroying an aircraft' ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qKQhQ73xi8 ) that Brown Moses posted. In both it appeared to be a Metis, a Russian anti-tank guided missile. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9K115_Metis
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Twin blasts reported in Damascusquote:Two explosions have been heard in the Syrian capital, Damascus, according to state television. Lascivious Sloth fucked around with this message at 08:26 on Mar 17, 2012 |
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Mar 17, 2012 08:17
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Nir Rosen issued a brief denial over twitterquote:The allegations about me are completely untrue. I will be responding in a longer format in 24 hours when I am back online so please wait I doubt it's completely untrue. I don't think he was spying for the Syrian regime or anything like that, but he was the only journalist allowed to legally enter Syria that wasn't completely constrained in who he was allowed to talk to or where he was allowed to go by the regime. You don't get to do that without having contacts within the Syrian government and its intelligence services, in this case with Khaled al-Ahmad who appears to have been actively advising Assad about how to deal with the revolution. According to the email, and I doubt it's outright fabricated, the information Rosen passed on isn't all that specific, but I don't think a journalist ought to be telling someone working for the government anything, even if they could find out through other sources. I do think he's a really good journalist (though I don't much like him after that Lara Logan thing), but he definitely needs to account for that. Xandu fucked around with this message at 09:28 on Mar 17, 2012 |
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Justin Credible posted:I watched the video before it got taken down, and it was the same launcher as the video 'Destroying an aircraft' ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qKQhQ73xi8 ) that Brown Moses posted. In both it appeared to be a Metis, a Russian anti-tank guided missile. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9K115_Metis Yeah you are right thats what it looks like. I wonder where they got it? I wouldnt be surprised if the Syrian army used that missile, maybe with all the defections somehow it found its way into rebel hands. Or maybe a foreign country supplied it?
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According to the Wikipedia (which I imagine is accurate in this situation, just by virtue of having video of it), Syria is listed under 'Operators', so they probably just acquired them from the national military.
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Mar 18, 2012 05:14
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Here is a beautiful and well done account of an AJ correspondent traveling through Syria for months following the protests and daily lives of civilians and the movement, with narration over footage of protests and street interviews: http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/peopleandpower/2012/03/201231213549186607.html
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Mar 18, 2012 07:26
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Xandu posted:I'd like to request that Bashar al-Assad only be referred to as the dude from now on. What was the actual arabic word they used? Because "The Dude" could mean a lot of different things.
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Mar 18, 2012 09:05
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That email seems to have been written in english, actually. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/14/bashar-al-assad-syria18
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Xandu posted:That email seems to have been written in english, actually. Even though it's written in English reading it in my head I hear my Syrian grandmother's voice :I A lot of people who learn English in the middle east tend to talk like an American movie, I know people who went to all-Arabic schools and every other word is "man" or "dude" or "awesome". Also things like this email: "so cute, I miss youuuuuuu" http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/16/syria-middleeast1 Is a perfect example of what a Syrian accent sounds like in English.
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Mar 18, 2012 09:17
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Do Hadeed and al-Dude have an affair or what?
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Svartvit posted:Do Hadeed and al-Dude have an affair or what? Probably. It also seems like Bashar's father in law is really the one running poo poo. Oh and look a Middle Eastern despot's guide to building a speech: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/14/bashar-al-assad-syria15 quote:Islam: It's almost like they're using Islam as a political tool!
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Managed to get 5 minutes of internet on my holiday only to see there´s been two days of car bombs in Syria and Senussi has been arrested and the ICC and Libya are arguing about who gets him. Never going on holiday again.
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Brown Moses posted:Managed to get 5 minutes of internet on my holiday only to see there´s been two days of car bombs in Syria and Senussi has been arrested and the ICC and Libya are arguing about who gets him. Never going on holiday again. Alternately, at some point you're going to have to go on holiday in a monastery or something with no internet (for your health  )
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Don't listen to him. In this new economic climate one cannot afford to take vacations. This thread commands you to get to work!
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http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/33810-jumblat-says-laying-rebel-flag-on-father-s-tomb-freed-him-from-big-prison Interesting. Apparently the Druze religious leadership is pissed at him because they'd rather stay neutral to protect Syrian Druze.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/guest-voices/post/religion-and-politics-in-syria/2012/03/18/gIQAMSzhLS_blog.html Good piece on Syrian minorities by the former Al Jazeera head.
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Call the al-Assads ducks seems to have really caught on in the last few days. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCtIxoFzBkQ "Curse your soul, oh duck"
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:It's almost like they're using Islam as a political tool!
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Xandu posted:Call the al-Assads ducks seems to have really caught on in the last few days. Duck is Syrian slang for a chubby person
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eSports Chaebol posted:Alternately, at some point you're going to have to go on holiday in a monastery or something with no internet (for your health I can not seem to escape it, there was a march that turned into a riot around the corner from where I am staying in Istanbul yesterday by Kurds (described in the local press as BDP and PKK supporters, ahem). I was wondering what all the chanting and shouting was about.
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Can someone explain what a Turkey 'Buffer Zone' would entail, why it's so controversial, and how difficult or expensive it is/what is preventing it from being implemented? I don't think I quite understand.
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Dr.Oblivious posted:http://news.yahoo.com/russian-anti-terror-troops-arrive-syria-164035966--abc-news.html I think those are the last people I'd want to deal with 'terrorists.' Aren't they known for getting civilians killed as well?
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As a follow up to the duck thing, the defection of a duck and the formation of the Free Ducks Brigade. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0LPNKQuaDo Dr.Oblivious posted:http://news.yahoo.com/russian-anti-terror-troops-arrive-syria-164035966--abc-news.html They're there to protect Russian citizens it appears, not for combat.
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Goddamn if this revolution keeps up the Syrians are going to become the new Funniest Arabs (sorry Egyptians). That was hilarious. "Takbir!" "Quack quack!" "Takbir!" "Quack quack!"
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Sivias posted:Can someone explain what a Turkey 'Buffer Zone' would entail, why it's so controversial, and how difficult or expensive it is/what is preventing it from being implemented? I don't think I quite understand. A number of problems with that, firstly being Syria would deem it an invasion. The scope for immediate escalation is obvious. Zones would also provide possible havens for the FSA which would be intolerable for the regime. The havens would become a festering sore for Assad and eventually he would take some sort of action... probably sending the tanks in calling Turkey's bluff. Turkey would be forced to withdraw its troops and watch a possible massacre unfold, or fight the Syrian army on Syrian soil. Safe havens have the possibility of becoming clusterfucks of mammoth proportions is the short answer. Cable Guy fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Mar 20, 2012 |
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Not just that, but the "humanitarian corridor" that has been discussed would essentially cut off Syria from the sea. That's something that Assad has been adamant on keeping, which goes along way to explain the brutality seen in Homs and Hama.
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Cable Guy posted:Zones would also provide possible havens for the FSA which would be intolerable for the regime. The havens would become a festering sore for Assad and eventually he would take some sort of action... probably sending the tanks in calling Turkey's bluff. Turkey would be forced to withdraw its troops and watch a possible massacre unfold, or fight the Syrian army on Syrian soil. Couldn't NATO use this as an excuse to directly intervene in the conflict? Also, i'm in love with the FSA. How can such a oppressed people have the time and mental ability to do the parodies and jokes they do. It's a great change of pace from the countless videos of dead children.
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That would pretty much be unavoidable, and would be another of those clusterfucks.
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Kenning posted:Goddamn if this revolution keeps up the Syrians are going to become the new Funniest Arabs (sorry Egyptians). That was hilarious. Looking at the YouTube comments, might I assume "ههههههه" is laughter? Is there any stylistic difference when they preface it with the "خ" ?
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"the biggest march supporting President Assad" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=240y_q3MpiQ Cable Guy posted:Could somebody translate the whole speech? In the name of God the Merciful the Munificent. I am Batta ibn Battuta and I announce my defection from the Assadi duck gangs and this is my identity (holds up feather) and my admission into the Free Duck Brigades, as I and a group of ducks announce the formation of the Quack-Quack Battalion. We call upon all ducks to defect from the Duck Regime. Long live Syria and down with Bashar al-Batta (the duck). Victory to all our ducks. Quackbir! (quack quack) az jan jananam fucked around with this message at 05:17 on Mar 20, 2012 |
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