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Kosher man posted:You are in luck as the Brewers Association put together a great PDF that can help out big time if you want to do some beer and food pairing and also provides some nice little info on beer styles. Thanks, I was going to get a bottle of local port wine to pair with a cheddar cheese that's marbled with port wine, but maybe I'll pair a barleywine with it like Old Viscosity and get a bottle of wine for the pasta with red sauce we'll have before.  This was last night I paired a sweet maple bacon cheddar cheese with Flying Fish's Exit 8 which is a chestnut brown ale. A lot of sweetness from the local honey comes upfront and the chestnuts cut through somewhat as the beer shows it's Belgian side with some cloves and a mild floral finish. I think they paired pretty well together myself.
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Midorka posted:Tonight I'm doing a beer pairing with cheese for my first time, I picked up a variety of cheeses but really don't know how to pair cheese and beer. I picked up some cheddar cheese with maple and bacon and I plan to pair it with a Flying Fish Exit 8, I figure it'll be a good pair at least. Kosher Man's PDF is a fantastic resource and starting point, but I'll put in my two cents as well. I did cheese and beer pairings for a gourmet cheese purveyor in Chicago, and I've run into some general rules of thumb that work well: -Hoppy beers work perfectly with sharp cheddar and any kind of blue/gorgonzola cheese. Barleywine and imperial stout do the same. -Malty beers work great with any kind of cheddar or gouda, as well as similar cheeses like gruyere. -Milder, softer cheeses work well with beers like kölsch, weissbier and other beers with light body and flavor. -Funky, stinky cheeses generally play nice with Belgian beers of any type. -Match lighter cheeses with lighter beers, and more intense cheeses with more intense beers. -The best simple pairing: Pale ale and mild cheddar. A few of my favorite pairings that I've done: -Uinta Labyrinth with an American gorgonzola. -Old Rasputin with aged goat gouda. -Ska Brewing ESB with a 4-year aged cheddar. -Founders Centennial IPA with Bavaria Blu, a blue/camembert hybrid. I'm not sure I've ever had a better pairing. air- posted:I had Adelbert's biere de garde recently and this was my second experience where the cork popped itself off, flying across the room upon removal of the cage. I nearly took my nose off with a Lost Abbey Ten Commandments once.  This is why I now open all cork/cage beers over the sink, pointing away from me.
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Mar 19, 2012 19:39
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Ubik posted:I nearly took my nose off with a Lost Abbey Ten Commandments once. You found the highly-carbonated Lost Abbey beer! That's like getting a golden ticket, congrats. We have a high ceiling with a skylight in the kitchen, perfect for aiming the bottle at the skylight. Only twice have I been able to hit the skylight with the cork. One was a St. Bernardus 12, the other was what turned out to be an infected Trois Pistoles that was actually magically funky and delicious. It was the first time I'd had that beer, and in a weird twist I've been continually let down by it since it lacks the sour pucker twang of the infected bottle.
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Mar 19, 2012 19:50
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I got a rare infected Goose Island Matilda, but it was only a little sour, and in a way that didn't go well with the other delicate flavors. Tasted like lacto or something, probably would have gotten better with age. Not terrible, but I would like to taste the beer as it was intended.
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Mar 19, 2012 20:04
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Midorka posted:Thanks, I was going to get a bottle of local port wine to pair with a cheddar cheese that's marbled with port wine, but maybe I'll pair a barleywine with it like Old Viscosity and get a bottle of wine for the pasta with red sauce we'll have before. Old viscosity isn't really a barleywine though.
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Mar 19, 2012 20:45
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Ubik posted:Kosher Man's PDF is a fantastic resource and starting point, but I'll put in my two cents as well. I did cheese and beer pairings for a gourmet cheese purveyor in Chicago, and I've run into some general rules of thumb that work well: Thanks much for the advice, what sort of beer do you think would work best with a port wine cheddar cheese? Would I be okay using Old Viscosity? Kosher man posted:Old viscosity isn't really a barleywine though. Don't know why, but I thought it was for some reason, I haven't had it but I just assumed it was...Reading the description of it seems like it's bourbon, chocolate, and roasted profile so should I get something sweeter for the port wine cheddar?
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Mar 19, 2012 21:25
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air- posted:I had Adelbert's biere de garde recently and this was my second experience where the cork popped itself off, flying across the room upon removal of the cage. This is a good 35% of why I buy a lot of corked and caged beers. I'm a big manchild and I am forever amused by making loud noises and having cork fly around. Bonus points for the aforementioned removing the cage and poo poo flies apart immediately.
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Mar 19, 2012 21:37
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Midorka posted:
The "Old" thing is so common for barleywines that I assume anything called Old [whatever] is in the style. It's definitely led me to some kind of disappointing purchases. Most recently, I got a 4 pack of Old Leghumper thinking it was a really good deal for barleywine, only to find it was a robust porter. Still tasty, but not as tasty and strong as I'd hoped.
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Mar 19, 2012 21:41
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air- posted:Bring some next time you come to TX! Assuming I can get some before I leave! I have the feeling that in a year's time they'll basically have to do bottle releases like 3F, as opposed to just sticking them in Funkwerks' cooler...
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Mar 19, 2012 21:48
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SH: Oh yeah, Crooked Stave doesn't bottle? Dammit. Saw someone post about Abt 12 and St. Bernardus Christmas beer was actually the other cork I had that popped itself off! Sipping a New Belgium Dunkelweiss at the Moth now. Why do they not make this into a seasonal, it's so refreshing, clovy/citrusy, and just way too easy to drink.
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Mar 19, 2012 23:09
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air- posted:SH: Oh yeah, Crooked Stave doesn't bottle? Dammit. He does (it's basically a 1 man operation); I just meant that I bet they'll be more in demand going on as he becomes more than just a local Ft. Collins thing and it's not like he'll have much more capacity than he does now. I'll do my bestest to bring some over to TX; though it sounds like JK is really making inroads into similar styles of beer since I left.
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Mar 19, 2012 23:16
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Totally boned the Captcha for DLD tickets when I guessed wrong on the case-sensitive 'Y'. That being said, if anyone has an extra ticket, I will gladly trade you a 750 mL bottle of Bells Black Note and a 12 oz bottle of this years KBS (just to sweeten the deal).
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Mar 19, 2012 23:34
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bartolimu posted:- Split a Churchill's Finest Hour while sitting next to a table with no fewer than three screaming toddlers. Fitting, as I personally agree with Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman that all babies look like Winston Churchill to some degree. On my way back to VA, I hit up Specific Gravity in Salisbury, MD on a goon recommendation. The pizza was spot on and I wish I could go back, but the bottle selection wasn't comparable to the places I went in Ocean City. Did find a bottle of Flying Mouflan, so it certainly wasn't a waste. So, if you folks are ever going to Ocean City, keep these in mind: Liquid Assets: Amazing food and bottle selection. If you go nowhere else, go here. Nice atmosphere, with a bar in the middle of the bottle shop and couches for you to lounge around on. Best prices on bottles I could find, to boot. Pickle's Pub: A few good taps at reasonable prices ($4.20 for pint of Nugget Nectar or Matilda? Yes please) and some nice burgers. The moonshine shooters are way too weak to be called that, though. Also be prepared for washed-up DJ's spinning Jimmy Buffet. Pizza Tugo's Taphouse: Hey I heard you like Dogfish Head. Great calzones, but I had some really terrible service. Dogfish Head Pub: Is this in Ocean City? No, it's 45 minutes away. Should you go? Yes. Wednesdays they tap stuff they've been sitting on for a few years, and their food was surprisingly good. I need to know how to make their pizza crust. It's like an orgasmic cracker, and they make it with brewery byproducts. I didn't get to try their vodka, but they do serve it there. Burley Oak Brewing: Nice startup brewery that has a lot of solid offerings. Their APA and IPA in particular are fantastic, along with a 9 Malt Ale that I wish I could've gotten in bottles. Cheap sample flights and pints.
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Mar 19, 2012 23:43
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Retemnav posted:NYC for St. Paddy's weekend was nuts, but a lot of fun. Only made it to midnight on Sat. night, hung out at the Blind Tiger, which was crowded as hell but we still managed to snag seats at the bar. Was really disappointed because they had Ommegang's Aphrodite on tap, but the keg kicked just before we got there. Blind Tiger and R&H are two of my favorite places to go in NYC. If you have a chance, try The Stag's Head. They have a great beer selection and the best burgers I can find in NYC!
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Mar 19, 2012 23:53
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Tonight ... I had 2 beers. First, a Founder's Old Curmudgeon's Better Half : Shared with a Friend. It was decent. It wasn't as good as I hoped, or as bad as was fearing. It was like a sweeter , maple hinted Curmudgeon. Lots of alcohol in it... the lacing was beautiful. Second, a Leinenkugels(sp?) Big Eddy. Local shop was clearning out the 2011 4 packs, with a $12 price tag and a free Big Eddy Snifter. Really enjoying this beer. It's smooth, it's got the flavors I like and the hops arent dominant at all. Excellent brew. I also snagged bottles of DFH 75 minute IPA and Terrapin's Peotch .
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Mar 20, 2012 01:02
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Yesterday I found a sixer of Dale's canned 3/12. Yesterday. In Virginia. At Giant. They have some awesome logistics set up with the distributor here.
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Mar 20, 2012 01:03
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I'm on a bit of a quest to find a great everyday pilsner (a real one, not lovely American adjunct lager). Today's entry is Great Divide's Nomad. It's almost really awesome but I find it too bitter. Very nice aroma of floral, grassy hops and sweet, bready malt. There's good body and some malt sweetness, but the finish is pure IPA bitterness and it hangs around on your tongue. If they dialed that back a bit it would be quite awesome. It's also like $10 for a sixer which seems excessive. So far it's still a tossup between New Belgium Blue Paddle and Avery Joe's Pilsner.
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If you let it get old some of that bitterness could very well fade my poor, poor autumn ipas 
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two_beer_bishes posted:Blind Tiger and R&H are two of my favorite places to go in NYC. If you have a chance, try The Stag's Head. They have a great beer selection and the best burgers I can find in NYC! Probably won't make it back up there this year, but I'll definitely try and remember it. Docjowles posted:I'm on a bit of a quest to find a great everyday pilsner (a real one, not lovely American adjunct lager). Today's entry is Great Divide's Nomad. It's almost really awesome but I find it too bitter. Very nice aroma of floral, grassy hops and sweet, bready malt. There's good body and some malt sweetness, but the finish is pure IPA bitterness and it hangs around on your tongue. If they dialed that back a bit it would be quite awesome. It's also like $10 for a sixer which seems excessive. What about Prima Pils?
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Docjowles posted:I'm on a bit of a quest to find a great everyday pilsner (a real one, not lovely American adjunct lager). Today's entry is Great Divide's Nomad. It's almost really awesome but I find it too bitter. Very nice aroma of floral, grassy hops and sweet, bready malt. There's good body and some malt sweetness, but the finish is pure IPA bitterness and it hangs around on your tongue. If they dialed that back a bit it would be quite awesome. It's also like $10 for a sixer which seems excessive. Prima Pils is my favorite, but it's pricey. Avery Joe's tastes good. Left hand Polestar Pilsner is decent, maybe a little light. Mama's Little Yellow Pils is pretty inexpensive, for Oskar Blues.
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Mar 20, 2012 02:53
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Prima is my favorite, but I like Troegs Sunshine Pils a lot too. The one time I had Mama Yella I wasn't a fan, but that was a few years back.
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Mar 20, 2012 02:59
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Vertigo posted:Second, a Leinenkugels(sp?) Big Eddy. Local shop was clearning out the 2011 4 packs, with a $12 price tag and a free Big Eddy Snifter. Really enjoying this beer. It's smooth, it's got the flavors I like and the hops arent dominant at all. Excellent brew. There is a place not that far from here that has good food and a bar attached. The bar has lovely beers, but recently they added Big Eddy to the tap list. It's great, and I get one every time we go.
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Prima is really good, but I've had several bad experiences out here with it being pretty old. After blowing $10-11 on a sixpack it sucks to get an oxidized, faded-hop product.
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Mar 20, 2012 03:16
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Can't really go wrong with Sam Adams Noble Pils, especially now that it's year-round. The only stores around me that carry them are Wal-Marts, and I feel strange going there specifically to pick up a beer that I can't get anywhere else.
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Mar 20, 2012 03:47
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deadwing posted:Can't really go wrong with Sam Adams Noble Pils, especially now that it's year-round. The only stores around me that carry them are Wal-Marts, and I feel strange going there specifically to pick up a beer that I can't get anywhere else. Yeah... one time I looked at Wal-Marts beer selection and kinda chuckled. Their craft brew selection consists of: Sam Adams, Sierra Nevada, and usually a regional brewery (for me, it's GLBC) Not that I was surprised or anything, it's Wal Mart after all...
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Mar 20, 2012 03:54
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I cant find any Noble Pils for the life of me around here...
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Mar 20, 2012 04:00
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Hey I'm going to be flying out to Denver at the end of April to pilot and finalize all of Cigar City's can artwork so if anyone wants to goon out and drink a beer or two with myself (and the owner of CCB) lemme know. It'll be awkward as hell probably!
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bananasinpajamas posted:Hey I'm going to be flying out to Denver at the end of April to pilot and finalize all of Cigar City's can artwork so if anyone wants to goon out and drink a beer or two with myself (and the owner of CCB) lemme know. It'll be awkward as hell probably! I cant wait to bring home some Tocobago Cans when I visit Jax
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Vertigo posted:
Big Eddy is a brand with multiple beers, all big ones. Which one did you have? I have some 2011 RIS I keep saying Im going to try...
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rage-saq posted:
Anyone wiling to trade me one of these? Can't get it in the midwest, and it sounds super interesting.
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Man, hit up Bruery Provisions earlier since I was in the neighborhood. Great idea. Did the specialty flight, 5 2 oz samplers for $8. Filmishmish or something like that, an apricot sour, was pretty drat great. Super refreshing. I would love to have a couple of bottles of that for the summer. Not too acidic but just that nice tart lemony funky goodness, think it was probably brett. Humulus lager was just a heavily hopped lager, also a great hot weather beer. Tasted like it had a good amount of citra. Sour in the Rye was probably my favorite, that was a bit more acidic and lip puckering and complex and great. Reminded me a bit of Supplication. White Oak was good, but maybe a little sweet and oaky for my liking, but would probably age pretty drat well. Last was chocosaurus rye, the collaboration between Bruery/ Bootleggers. Really chocolatey, but I wasn't crazy about the mouthfeel all that rye gave it. Overall it was good though. Definitely gotta go there more often, it's not that much of a drive from the homebrew shop I go to anyways. And I need lots of money to blow on bottles since all the ones I wanted were like 20-30 a bottle. So so good though.
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Wait, so this year's red poppy is out. Hmm. I went down there last year for it, but I ended up finding it everywhere in Los Angeles weeks after. So hey, gotta start looking. Bought a variety six pack of Great Divide stuff tonight. Looking forward to tasting HOSS and NOMAD. I'm not sure I like the way the provisions store is after they are now allowed to serve full pints. It used to be that they couldn't serve more than 2oz pours on non-bruery stuff, so they would make a lot of theme flights of other breweries beers. So you can walk out of there trying 5-10 beers without the feeling like you shouldn't be driving. The new patio area is cool though. I can't wait till that is open.
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Yeah, Red Poppy has been pretty tough to find this year, I don't know what's up with that. Just this past summer I was able to find 2011 and even a couple of 2010 bottles still, but as soon as this years came out it was all gone and I haven't seen it again since. That's a bummer they used to have flights of the other beers too at Provisions, there were some other non-bruery beers I wanted to try but I still had to drive. Speaking of bruery provisions poo poo, I should've asked if they had any red poppy. I know for sure they had cuvee de tomme, I just didn't even think to check for red poppy though. Oh well.
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bananasinpajamas posted:Hey I'm going to be flying out to Denver at the end of April to pilot and finalize all of Cigar City's can artwork so if anyone wants to goon out and drink a beer or two with myself (and the owner of CCB) lemme know. It'll be awkward as hell probably! Any idea what you guys are sending to 3 Floyds in return for the stuff they sent you for Hunahpu Day?
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James Bont posted:Man, hit up Bruery Provisions earlier since I was in the neighborhood. Great idea. Did the specialty flight, 5 2 oz samplers for $8. Filmishmish or something like that, an apricot sour, was pretty drat great. Super refreshing. I would love to have a couple of bottles of that for the summer. Not too acidic but just that nice tart lemony funky goodness, think it was probably brett. Humulus lager was just a heavily hopped lager, also a great hot weather beer. Tasted like it had a good amount of citra. Sour in the Rye was probably my favorite, that was a bit more acidic and lip puckering and complex and great. Reminded me a bit of Supplication. White Oak was good, but maybe a little sweet and oaky for my liking, but would probably age pretty drat well. Last was chocosaurus rye, the collaboration between Bruery/ Bootleggers. Really chocolatey, but I wasn't crazy about the mouthfeel all that rye gave it. Overall it was good though. James Bont posted:Yeah, Red Poppy has been pretty tough to find this year, I don't know what's up with that.
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Victory is opening another brewery in Parkesburg, PA http://victorybeer.com/blog/more-victory-to-love/
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Mar 20, 2012 16:08
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bananasinpajamas posted:Hey I'm going to be flying out to Denver at the end of April to pilot and finalize all of Cigar City's can artwork so if anyone wants to goon out and drink a beer or two with myself (and the owner of CCB) lemme know. It'll be awkward as hell probably! I'll be in SF
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Old Viscosity with port wine marbled cheese didn't work too well, wound up mostly drinking the local port wine we had which worked better. I read a few reviews thinking Old Viscosity was going to have more chocolate flavor than it did, the strong black coffee flavor just didn't work too well with the cheese. Lesson learned.
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Midorka posted:Old Viscosity with port wine marbled cheese didn't work too well, wound up mostly drinking the local port wine we had which worked better. I read a few reviews thinking Old Viscosity was going to have more chocolate flavor than it did, the strong black coffee flavor just didn't work too well with the cheese. Lesson learned. Are you not testing these out yourself before you serve them?
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Munkaboo posted:I cant find any Noble Pils for the life of me around here... No seriously go to Sam Adam's website and do a search for it, Wal-Mart is actually your best bet right now.
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