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Pretentious Turtle posted:How long has it been 10 years for Since 1998, in Meshuggah's case.
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Meshuggah tunes sound like the basic framework of a song that never gets finished. It doesn't help that they take two riffs and ride them for soooooo long.
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Mar 21, 2012 22:40
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I love Meshuggah but they are one of those bands you either hate or love. I'd willing to bet most of this thread hates them. I love everything they put out.
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Mar 21, 2012 23:43
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They're bad.
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Mar 22, 2012 00:57
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MrBling posted:Counterpoint: Obituary. Counterpoint: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqY5gr6Y4ho
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Mar 22, 2012 01:17
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Easy Mac posted:I love Meshuggah but they are one of those bands you either hate or love. I'd willing to bet most of this thread hates them. I love everything they put out. Yeah you don't "get" them. You like them or you don't
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Mar 22, 2012 02:22
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Anyone who says Meshuggah is bad is just foolish. The music may not appeal to you and they may have changed drastically over the years, but they are still technically proficient and a solid act to see live. I agree that it's a love/hate thing and can totally understand not liking them at all. For me, most of their stuff is pretty "meh" but I always enjoy the ride to the gems they have.
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Mar 22, 2012 02:30
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Misogynist posted:I've been saying for years that in 10 years people will look at Meshuggah the way we look at Yngwie Malmsteen today That music that was cool at first, but quickly got old and boring doing the same things all the time and spawned countless clones who do the same thing but worse, and a few who do their own thing while showing some influence from it. Oh yeah! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxQZsW0H7LU
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Mar 22, 2012 03:36
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Houseplant posted:they are still technically proficient People like to bring up technical proficiency like it means something, I'd rather listen to some guy whos been playing guitar 2 months who can put together a badass sounding riff then some guy sweep picking or whatever the gently caress for 10 minutes. Listened to one of the new Meshuggah songs and was done with my annual "hey...maybe Meshuggah ain't that bad....nope false alarm still bad"
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Mar 22, 2012 04:36
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There is absolutely nothing impressive about the "technicality" of Meshuggah post-Nothing, and it's been steadily downhill. Koloss is almost completely reliant on the guitarist's eighth strings to bring any kind of bite to the sound, and Tomas's drumming is straight anemic, especially compared to his modern contemporaries. Like, Danny from Intronaut destroys Tomas in technicality, songwriting, and sheer groove, but no one mentions them here. I would link to Intronaut's "Below" but I'm typing on a phone, go listen on youtube.
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Mar 22, 2012 05:50
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Too late I already listened to the entire Intronaut discography today. Well I can do it again, I guess.
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Mar 22, 2012 05:52
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Pretentious Turtle posted:Too late I already listened to the entire Intronaut discography today. Well I can do it again, I guess. Interesting how that decision is equally great both times.
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Mar 22, 2012 05:55
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vanov posted:There is absolutely nothing impressive about the "technicality" of Meshuggah post-Nothing, and it's been steadily downhill. Koloss is almost completely reliant on the guitarist's eighth strings to bring any kind of bite to the sound, and Tomas's drumming is straight anemic, especially compared to his modern contemporaries. Like, Danny from Intronaut destroys Tomas in technicality, songwriting, and sheer groove, but no one mentions them here. I would link to Intronaut's "Below" but I'm typing on a phone, go listen on youtube. Tomas is cool because he looks like a wise old wizard
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Mar 22, 2012 06:06
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I remember buying Destroy Erase Improve and Chaosphere back in the day and I honestly don't remember any song other than Future Breed Machine. Their songs just kind of mold together into this boring mush of generic riffs and nonsensical changes in time signature. As a general rule of thumb you should avoid music from Sweden. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Mar 22, 2012 06:23
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Well since the Swede's aren't getting any love tonight, how about the new Aura Noir and Desaster releases? I need me some black thrash and I haven't had a chance to listen to either yet. Opinions?
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Mar 22, 2012 06:56
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Johnny Cage posted:As a general rule of thumb you should avoid music from Sweden. Entombed, theory destroyed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxR4zQiSHQc
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Mar 22, 2012 14:15
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Johnny Cage posted:As a general rule of thumb you should avoid music from Sweden. As a general rule of thumb people who think Grave, Dismember, Entombed, At The Gates and Dissection suck have bad taste in metal
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Mar 22, 2012 14:48
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If you don't like music from Sweden, you could always listen to dudes from Michigan singing about Thor, because Enchanter are awesome. There's not much that builds up like this song, the ending is huge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03Rfzl0cFQg
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Mar 22, 2012 16:49
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Zodijackylite posted:If you don't like music from Sweden, you could always listen to dudes from Michigan singing about Thor, because Enchanter are awesome. There's not much that builds up like this song, the ending is huge. Comedy option: Listening to a band named Thor sing about Thor's hammer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ip_Dt-yWbs
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Mar 22, 2012 17:19
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Vargatron posted:Comedy option: Listening to a band named Thor sing about Thor's hammer. Comedy option B: Swedish band writing a song about being booed in Worcester because they're bad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7p9xZ74qPU I should probably include something good and cheesy and Swedish so here's a Rocka Rollas song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ-FV3b1wSI
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Mar 22, 2012 17:36
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Johnny Cage posted:As a general rule of thumb you should avoid music from Sweden. Now there's a probation I can get behind. gently caress you, buddy. I'm not ashamed to say I enjoy Bloodbath (among other Swedish death-ish metal outfits) a whole lot.
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Mar 22, 2012 18:11
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Johnny Cage posted:As a general rule of thumb you should avoid music from Sweden. I don't know why anyone would think this, and it seems I am not alone on it either... The Swedes are almost as good as the Japanese at music even.
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Mar 22, 2012 18:25
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vanov posted:Like, Danny from Intronaut destroys Tomas in technicality, songwriting, and sheer groove, but no one mentions them here. I would link to Intronaut's "Below" but I'm typing on a phone, go listen on youtube. This post made me finally listen to Valley of Smoke last night, after having it on my computer for a long time and never hearing it. What a loving great album.
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Mar 22, 2012 18:42
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Zodijackylite posted:Comedy option B: Swedish band writing a song about being booed in Worcester because they're bad. Haha I was at that show. Worcester does suck but that song has nothing to do with anything involved in the incident...  After reading the lyrics I'm glad we booed them, pack of emo fruits Morbid Florist fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Mar 22, 2012 |
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Mar 22, 2012 18:52
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Holy crap, nothing against Sweden and I'm glad that guy got probated. I'm glad to hear that Cpt. Spring Types! Since Japanese metal was brought up, my experience in that area is exactly nil and I could use this thread's help with some recommendations! Beyond Intronaut I am into bands like *scrolls through iTunes* Baroness, Decapitated, Gojira, Hacride, Isis, Minsk, Mnemic, Neurosis, Scar Symmetry, Textures, and YOB, but not a whole lot else due only to pickiness/exposure. vanov fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Mar 22, 2012 |
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Mar 22, 2012 19:11
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vanov posted:Holy crap, nothing against Sweden and I'm glad that guy got probated. I'm glad to hear that Cpt. Spring Types! The slower stuff you mentioned makes me want to recommend Church of Misery or Gallhammer, and since it's Japan I'll always recommend Sigh.
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Mar 22, 2012 19:31
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vanov posted:Holy crap, nothing against Sweden and I'm glad that guy got probated. I'm glad to hear that Cpt. Spring Types! My favourite Japanese band is Gotsu Totsu Kotsu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euM0n5B2MBY I discovered them watching this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwbgF5RwkTg
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Cpt. Spring Types posted:This post made me finally listen to Valley of Smoke last night, after having it on my computer for a long time and never hearing it. What a loving great album. Reminded me that I hadn't picked up Valley of Smoke yet. What do you know, it's on sale on Google Music. This album kicks rear end.
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Mar 22, 2012 20:10
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Since I don't have a lot of time on my hands I can't be as in-depth as I would like in a discussion about Japanese metal, I have always been really fond of the way Japan has presented their death metal, grindcore, and goregrind. Bands like Catasexual Urge Motivation, Coffins, Flagitious Idiosyncracy In The Dilapidation, Intestine Baalism, Carcass Grinder, 324, Butcher ABC, and Bathtub Shitter are staples of my playlists. Good times.
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Mar 22, 2012 20:21
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vanov posted:Since Japanese metal was brought up, my experience in that area is exactly nil and I could use this thread's help with some recommendations! I don't know if people like to consider them metal but I'm partial to Boris myself. I imagine most people into heavy music can find at least an album or two of theirs to enjoy. Here's a couple of my favourite tracks: Aileron Pink Wareruride Also I want to throw my support behind the Intronaut love. See them live if you can, their sound was so heavy it made the air thicker.
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Turk February posted:Since I don't have a lot of time on my hands I can't be as in-depth as I would like in a discussion about Japanese metal, I have always been really fond of the way Japan has presented their death metal, grindcore, and goregrind. Bands like Catasexual Urge Motivation, Coffins, Flagitious Idiosyncracy In The Dilapidation, Intestine Baalism, Carcass Grinder, 324, Butcher ABC, and Bathtub Shitter are staples of my playlists. Good times. I could never really get into grind type stuff, but it makes me happy that I live in a world where there are bands with names like Bathtub Shitter.
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Not Very Metal posted:I use CM Distro, or buy straight from the record label. Thanks! NarkyBark posted:Meshuggah tunes sound like the basic framework of a song that never gets finished. It doesn't help that they take two riffs and ride them for soooooo long. Exactly. I like Meshuggah in small doses. I love their sound and there are some good riffs, but it's as though they forgot to make songs and stuff. Still, I'm gonna pay money to see them with baroness and ghost and I don't think I'll regret it.
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fuf posted:My favourite Japanese band is Gotsu Totsu Kotsu: This is a great example of effective cookie monster vocals, because motherfucker has enthusiasm on his side. He genuinely cares about why what he's saying sounds like it's being played through speakers made of gravel, because that's the way his instrument is supposed to sound. Fortunately the rest of the band keeps up perfectly. edit: to be clear, what I am saying is this band/song rules, thank you!
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fuf posted:I discovered them watching this: I found it interesting one of the bands talked about "Japanese spirit" as this is very relevant within Japanese hardcore, to the point it is known as "burning spirit" hardcore. Bands like Death Side, and Crow, for instance would be classified as such.
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The new Angel Witch album finally landed on my doorstep. It's not bad at all.
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Yeah, Swedes do have an alarming proficiency for metal. I mean, as much as we have good stuff here in Finland, the supposed "Promised land of Heavy Metal" (yeah, right), I'd say Sweden might still take the cake in the "holy poo poo where do all these awesome bands come from" category. I was a bit surprised nobody mentioned Amon Amarth, but reading the last couple pages here I'd guess maybe they've gotten too "polished" for a lot of the posters here. I loving love them to bits though, Twilight of the Thunder God is one of the best albums I've heard in a goddamn lot of years.
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Nordick posted:I was a bit surprised nobody mentioned Amon Amarth, but reading the last couple pages here I'd guess maybe they've gotten too "polished" for a lot of the posters here. I loving love them to bits though, Twilight of the Thunder God is one of the best albums I've heard in a goddamn lot of years. I think most peoples problems with Amon Amarth is that every album is the same as the last. They're too consistent, in a way. They never try anything new, though I dont have a problem with that myself since I actually enjoy what they do quite a bit.
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Defiant Sally posted:I think most peoples problems with Amon Amarth is that every album is the same as the last. They're too consistent, in a way. They never try anything new, though I dont have a problem with that myself since I actually enjoy what they do quite a bit. Personally I think that as long as they keep up their level of quality, they can just keep on doing what they do indefinitely, as far as I'm concerned. Because their stuff is loving dope.
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Defiant Sally posted:I think most peoples problems with Amon Amarth is that every album is the same as the last. They're too consistent, in a way. They never try anything new, though I dont have a problem with that myself since I actually enjoy what they do quite a bit. I find I enjoy Amon Amarth approximately twice as much during workouts as at any other time.
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