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It really is truly frightening how well the building of stadiums and the glad-handing and shady deal-making therein correlates so well to everything else funded by even the tiniest amount of public money. And the worst part is that the vast majority of people don't know, can't be bothered to give a poo poo and if they did, would become incredibly enraged (though since this is America, it'd be impotent as all hell) over how the systems of society really work. Maybe even enough to institute some change. But who can be bothered when the new American Idol is being crowned? Bread and circuses, man. Bread and circuses.
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Pvt. Public posted:It really is truly frightening how well the building of stadiums and the glad-handing and shady deal-making therein correlates so well to everything else funded by even the tiniest amount of public money. And the worst part is that the vast majority of people don't know, can't be bothered to give a poo poo and if they did, would become incredibly enraged (though since this is America, it'd be impotent as all hell) over how the systems of society really work. Maybe even enough to institute some change. But who can be bothered when the new American Idol is being crowned? Bread and circuses, man. Bread and circuses. Well this ignores the sizeable segment of the popular media that exists to spend as much energy as possible convincing said public that these things are good ideas, but that's neither here nor there
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URL Weaver posted:Well this ignores the sizeable segment of the popular media that exists to spend as much energy as possible convincing said public that these things are good ideas, but that's neither here nor there Absolutely true. I was hoping to imply that with the American Idol jab (poorly, I admit), but yes.
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# ? Mar 22, 2012 20:07 |
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Lindsay Berra just wrote a thing for espn on the idiocy of mlb simply accepting tommy john surgery as a hazard of the job There's also a nice chart comparing Maddux and Stasburg as they go through their motions.
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Why do they always talk to Rick "I can fix Victor Zambrano" Peterson instead of people who aren't self taught? I mean he talks a big talk but his track record is really no different from anyone else who doesn't abuse pitchers to death. leokitty fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Mar 24, 2012 |
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Also congrats on Lindsay for writing a big article on inverted W, which I think is as old as some fossils.
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# ? Mar 24, 2012 22:27 |
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Question for baseball people: is there a consensus on Lincecum's delivery at all? Wasn't there a big hubbub about how his dad was a mechanic and that his athletic delivery puts less stress on the arm than most windups? And now that article says that he's a ticking time bomb. What gives? I remember the dude on Hardball Times who used to analyze pitching motions was in love with Lincecum, so I don't get it.
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:Question for baseball people: is there a consensus on Lincecum's delivery at all? Wasn't there a big hubbub about how his dad was a mechanic and that his athletic delivery puts less stress on the arm than most windups? And now that article says that he's a ticking time bomb. What gives? He's got an extremely violent, jerky delivery that by conventional wisdom should lead to injury problems but for some reason it hasn't, probably due to some combination of luck, good genes, and a very good training regimen. There's really no way to tell if a pitcher will break or not until he does.
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URL Weaver posted:He's got an extremely violent, jerky delivery that by conventional wisdom should lead to injury problems but for some reason it hasn't, probably due to some combination of luck, good genes, and a very good training regimen. There's really no way to tell if a pitcher will break or not until he does. One thing I've always wanted to know is that his velocity still isn't what it used to be, but he's still pretty drat effective, and that could be because he's controlling speed to prevent injury rather than rearing back and firing as hard as he possibly can until he gets injured (Brad Penny Disease). I don't think a lot of pitchers would--or could--do that, but if there's one that could, I'm guessing it'd be Lincecum. If only someone could ask him during an interview.
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Lincecum isn't hurt by not throwing as hard as often because of his completely ridiculous changeup, I think. He never relied on his fastball to get him outs and miss bats.
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Nothing like spring training time where the only inevitabilities are best shape of his life articles and journalists making believe they understand pitching mechanics
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:Question for baseball people: is there a consensus on Lincecum's delivery at all? Wasn't there a big hubbub about how his dad was a mechanic and that his athletic delivery puts less stress on the arm than most windups? And now that article says that he's a ticking time bomb. What gives? I always thought Lincecum's leg was more likely to implode than his arm. The amount of weight and stretch on his leg during in his delivery seams unreal, especially when he does it 100+ times a game.
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leokitty posted:Lincecum isn't hurt by not throwing as hard as often because of his completely ridiculous changeup, I think. He never relied on his fastball to get him outs and miss bats. I didn't mean that he's been more effective BECAUSE of his decreased velocity or that it has anything to do with that (my point was convoluted). I'm more interested in whether or not he's not throwing his fastball as hard as he can so he can keep himself from getting injured.
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URL Weaver posted:Well this ignores the sizeable segment of the popular media that exists to spend as much energy as possible convincing said public that these things are good ideas, but that's neither here nor there This is true. Public financing is a thinly veiled scam but it is exacerbated by media members who want a new park for whatever team they cover because it beats going to the previous shithole. In a just society there would be no public option for stadium finance but wherever there's low-income housing to be razed...
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So Bill Madden wrote a piece on Joba's injuryquote:TAMPA — So the Joba Chamberlain star-crossed era with the Yankees will apparently have the same sad ending as the Brien Taylor saga.
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quote:He’d been explicitly told by the Yankee trainers not to engage in any sort of physical activity that would potentially put his arm in harm’s way. You would think they wouldn’t have had to tell him that, but then there had already been too many things in Chamberlain’s past to indicate he wasn’t gifted with a whole lot of common sense. hahaha excuse me while I disingenuously chastise a 26-year-old for playing with his son and air out some dirty laundry for the umpteenth time--HOW RECKLESS OF YOU!!! YOU SHOULDVE BEEN AN ABSENTEE DRUG ADDICT PARENT LIKE YOUR MOTHER.
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I fuckin love that he compares an injury on a trampoline while playing with a child to a fist fight WHAT HORRIBLE TURN WILL JOBA'S LIFE TAKE NEXT
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Athletes should be forced to be in a protective bubble at all times during the offseason and fed through tubes. There are countless things that can injure a star player simply by eating breakfast.
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# ? Mar 25, 2012 18:53 |
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Bill Madden is basically Dick Young 2.0 in how he approaches tone/etc. Also, a Spink Award winner.
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Hey, remember that time Joba got a DUI? This has nothing to do with anything except that the kid was a failure--speaking of which, let me tell you why this kid was a failure.
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# ? Mar 25, 2012 18:56 |
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Look At This Piece of poo poo Human Being Playing With His loving Kid, How loving Dare He by Bill Madden
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Joba released from hospital; recovery timetable allows for potential return this season; Joba still with one arbitration year left in 2013. Yankee Career Apparently Over For Fat Irresponsible Kid Haver by Bill Madden
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hcreight posted:recovery timetable allows for potential return this season No it doesn't. Joba's going to need many, many months of rehab just to be able to do basic things like walk, and the fact that he can't throw is going to severely compromise his Tommy John rehab. There is no return happening this season. If all goes well, maybe he'll have a chance to make a comeback in 2013.
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jeffersonlives posted:No it doesn't. Joba's going to need many, many months of rehab just to be able to do basic things like walk, and the fact that he can't throw is going to severely compromise his Tommy John rehab. There is no return happening this season. If all goes well, maybe he'll have a chance to make a comeback in 2013. I suppose I should have left that part out since the main source for that is Joba claiming the doctors told him that. But saying is Yankee career is apparently over without backing it up is still one of the many dumb things about that column.
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hcreight posted:I suppose I should have left that part out since the main source for that is Joba claiming the doctors told him that. But saying is Yankee career is apparently over without backing it up is still one of the many dumb things about that column. Joba said under a best case he might be able to throw sometime in July, which would still almost certainly push his major league return back to 2013. And this probably isn't a best case...
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It's entirely possible he gets non-tendered for next season, depending on how the rehab goes, obviously. Even then, he's certainly not getting extended and will be a free agent after 2013.
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ThatsMyBoye posted:It's entirely possible he gets non-tendered for next season, depending on how the rehab goes, obviously. Even then, he's certainly not getting extended and will be a free agent after 2013. Possible? Sure. Apparent? No. But if Madden doesn't say it's apparent he can't make his retarded Brien Taylor comparison.
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The comparison with Taylor isn't even worth nitpicking. Taylor: Hurt and never pitched in MLB Joba: Pitched in MLB pretty successfully for a bit Not to mention it was people like Madden who caused a lot of the Jobamania stuff.
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quote posted:He didn’t handle the instant fame well, didn’t stay in shape in the offseasons and reported to camp overweight last spring. I don't understand how someone can think that article was a good idea. What kind of mental hoops do you have to jump though in order to get to the point where you say "Yeah, this is some good writing." I guess if you've been writing for a while you are used to sitting and nitpicking people and perhaps you just lose touch with reality? Maybe you are just so used to writing poo poo with a smug attitude with hindsight that you forget that you don't have to cut everyone down that didn't win your team a championship in the last 5 minutes. I don't know but gently caress Bill Madden.
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I'm pretty sure every NY sportswriter dreams of the day they get to take their knives to Jeter and get away with it
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rockamiclikeavandal posted:I don't understand how someone can think that article was a good idea. What kind of mental hoops do you have to jump though in order to get to the point where you say "Yeah, this is some good writing." I'm betting the thought process was "dammit, ten minutes to press, just get something in let's go let's go let's go". Even if it doesn't explain the author it at least explains the editor.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:I'm betting the thought process was "dammit, ten minutes to press, just get something in let's go let's go let's go". Even if it doesn't explain the author it at least explains the editor.
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Brace yourselves, the annual Fangraphs organizational rankings are coming:Dave Cameron posted:With a new wave of front office talent crashing into front offices are furious rates, it’s nearly impossible to turn over a front office and not get an analytical upgrade in the process, but the Orioles may have accomplished exactly that this winter. Such prose
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# ? Mar 26, 2012 22:04 |
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that's the least stupid thing that has been posted on fangraphs in many moons
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# ? Mar 26, 2012 22:09 |
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Bert Sugar died of lung cancer yesterday. He was 75. Also, he owned.
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# ? Mar 26, 2012 22:12 |
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I kind of want to see what tortured logic lets a team move up the rankings while getting banned from a country.
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tinstaach posted:Brace yourselves, the annual Fangraphs organizational rankings are coming: "Front office" thrice in one sentence. David Cameron, everyone.
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Mornacale posted:"Front office" thrice in one sentence. David Cameron, everyone. I didn't even notice.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I didn't even notice. The roiling wave of letters crashed into you eyeballs, but once it was past your eyeballs the swell subsided and the letters settled into little pools behind your eyeballs and never managed to disturb your brains.
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Toffile posted:I kind of want to see what tortured logic lets a team move up the rankings while getting banned from a country. Dylan Bundy, essentially. Maybe a bit of Jonathan Schoop turning into a Top 100 prospect (51 or whatever BA has him is probably a bit high), but people freaking love Dylan Bundy.
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