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Quarex posted:Huh. I assume the whole movie is not this good, or else I cannot imagine why this is not instantly mentioned as the best movie ever starring a professional wrestler. That was, like, genuine quality storytelling, and Roddy Piper actually did a decent job going from irritated that he got some stupid box of crap to terrified, all without saying a word. That is more than I can say for lots of actors, let alone wrestlers. while I like The Princess Bride more, They Live is certainly the best acting performance by a pro wrestler.
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Quarex posted:Huh. I assume the whole movie is not this good, or else I cannot imagine why this is not instantly mentioned as the best movie ever starring a professional wrestler. That was, like, genuine quality storytelling, and Roddy Piper actually did a decent job going from irritated that he got some stupid box of crap to terrified, all without saying a word. That is more than I can say for lots of actors, let alone wrestlers. Roddy Piper has always been incredible on camera. IVP Videos sells some of the old Portland stuff and he is flat out amazing. He makes They Live just as much as the movie's themes do.
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coconono posted:Roddy Piper has always been incredible on camera. IVP Videos sells some of the old Portland stuff and he is flat out amazing. He makes They Live just as much as the movie's themes do. He was certainly the best thing about "Hell comes to Frog town" where he played the last sperm producing man, Sam Hell.
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Lamuella posted:while I like The Princess Bride more, They Live is certainly the best acting performance by a pro wrestler. It also has Keith David.
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Lone Rogue posted:After Starrcade they did some thing where they sent Goldberg to jail because Liz said he touched her. It wasn't a rape story line at all! Liz said that Goldburg was stalking her, but once the police started putting the screws to her all of the anecdotes of Liz being stalked by Goldburg were situations where Goldburg had a legitimate reason for being in those places, like Nitro and I think Liz said he stalked her at the gym but it was Goldburg's gym that he owned she was referring to.
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Apr 7, 2012 00:15
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it wasnt a rape storyline it was a bad storyline
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Apr 7, 2012 07:24
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Moose Bigelow posted:And even though the opening segment established that the police station was across the street from the arena it somehow took Goldberg forever to get escorted back so he could run in on the main event.
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Apr 7, 2012 08:02
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All this talk of awesome wrestling movies, and not one mention of "River of Darkness". I work at a video store and we got this in last year and I couldn't believe it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUFVMwf3f3Q
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Quasipox posted:All this talk of awesome wrestling movies, and not one mention of "River of Darkness". I work at a video store and we got this in last year and I couldn't believe it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUFVMwf3f3Q 
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Apr 7, 2012 14:04
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That looks bad. Like, tacky porn bad. Also, no love for Gridiron gang? It has like half the WWE in it. Kevin Nash is actually amusing.
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Apr 7, 2012 14:36
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That's some straight-to-bargain-bin goodness. The Longest Yard remake was fairly terrible, but Khali kicking Bob Sapp in the face wasn't the worst thing I've seen on film.
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Sue Denim posted:It wasn't a rape story line at all! It was originally supposed to be a rape storyline, but Goldberg understandably flipped out and said no. Even then, the implication is there that he was at least a creepy gently caress (even if it turns out she was lying the whole time) and didn't Hogan refer to him as a "sexual deviant"?
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LordPants posted:That looks bad. Do you mean The Longest Yard? Gridiron Gang only has Dwayne.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:It was originally supposed to be a rape storyline, but Goldberg understandably flipped out and said no. Even then, the implication is there that he was at least a creepy gently caress (even if it turns out she was lying the whole time) and didn't Hogan refer to him as a "sexual deviant"? And it still has the whole "Women, they lie about it to gently caress over men, amirite reddit?" vibe to it. It's misogynistic as all gently caress and enough to drat most writers out of whatever circle they're in.
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Apr 7, 2012 15:18
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No it was a wrestling angle where a heel did something dastardly to help themselves/hurt the babyface.
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Hirams Bitch posted:No it was a wrestling angle where a heel did something dastardly to help themselves/hurt the babyface. I know you've made it your whole gimmick to be a guttersnipe that's always trying to bait other posters, but seriously gently caress off.
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It's just that it really wasn't misogynistic and you're just looking for something that isn't there. I'm sure there have been angles in the past where a male wrestler lied to the cops to get his opponent in trouble. Maybe they should've just had Liz beat Goldberg up and toss him in a dumpster. Believe me I'm not normally one to defend WCW, but the Liz storyline that night was not the big problem with that angle.
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Heels are allowed to do bad things to get heat as long as their actions are presented as A Bad Thing and they eventually get comeuppance. It's when faces do terrible things and we are supposed to cheer them for it you run into problems. That storyline was probably misogynist but that was the point. It was also bad.
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Perigryn posted:I am finding this on the internet and watching it as soon as I get off work. This will be the best camp movie starring a wrestler since the wrong side of town. Hiram's Bitch posted:
I think it has a lot to do with V Ru's affinity for mysoginistic angles that leaves many unable to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Sikki Nixx posted:I am finding this on the internet and watching it as soon as I get off work. This will be the best camp movie starring a wrestler since the wrong side of town. Vince Russo didn't start working for WCW until October later that year.
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Well that just kicked my defense of popular opinion in the nuts didn't it? I guess I agree to an extent with Hiram's Bitch then. While a terrible angle, and an angle that objectified Elizabeth specifically, it wasn't especially mysoginistic, and in the confines of wrestling, was standard heel fare. The execution on the other hands was less than stellar, and far from standard, for that matter.
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Apr 7, 2012 22:14
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If they had cut back to Tony Schiavone and had him be like "Bitches always be doin' that poo poo. Fuckin' whores, amirite?" (or something like that, Tony was way more street than I am) then yeah the angle would be slightly misogynistic.
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Wasn't Elizabeth's entire career pretty much misogynistic?
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Moose Bigelow posted:Do you mean The Longest Yard? Gridiron Gang only has Dwayne. Yeah I meant the on with Goldberg, Nash, Austin, Kahli etc
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Bocc Kob posted:Wasn't Elizabeth's entire career pretty much misogynistic? Yup, even at the end of her life. Lex Luger beat the crap out of her and had to either go to the hospital/call the police on him (can't remember), and she stayed with him...eventually dying at his house due to a drug overdose.
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crankdatbatman posted:Yup, even at the end of her life. Lex Luger beat the crap out of her and had to either go to the hospital/call the police on him (can't remember), and she stayed with him...eventually dying at his house due to a drug overdose. It says something for how tragic someone's life is when the most positive experience someone had with a male wrestler was Hulk Hogan allowing her to stay at the Hogan house to escape from Macho's abuse. It is really sad 
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MassRayPer posted:It says something for how tragic someone's life is when the most positive experience someone had with a male wrestler was Hulk Hogan allowing her to stay at the Hogan house to escape from Macho's abuse. It is really sad even then she probably had to walk around on the floor while Nick was driving remote control cars around
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Pope Corky the IX posted:It was originally supposed to be a rape storyline, but Goldberg understandably flipped out and said no. Even then, the implication is there that he was at least a creepy gently caress (even if it turns out she was lying the whole time) and didn't Hogan refer to him as a "sexual deviant"? I remember watching it and thinking 'Why would you imply those things?'.
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Perigryn posted:I own this movie. I found it in a supermarket bargain bin for £3. It's awful. Kurt ends every scene by staring like he's been switched off at the mains. Sid, Nash and the other guy spend the whole movie doing nothing but appearing out of smoke machine fog, standing around as if to say "Look how big we are". So not that dissimilar to their wrestling careers really... Just avoid it, it makes no sense and makes "See No Evil" look like the original Halloween in comparison.
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Want to know how to book like Vince Russo and Ed Ferrara? You can now! (This is really loving long. Each video is an hour.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyz4Yssl3bA -Part One: WWF. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8DPI0N8m00 - More WWE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg4NP0Ow15w - WCW. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JutVm-Uu9Y0 - General Q&A
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I absolutely lost it when Russo defended booking to swerve internet smarks by saying that the 12 year old kid who goes to a dirtsheet and smartens up about the business isn't just one kid. That kid told all his friends on the playground about The Biz and now they're all smarks too!
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Russo: -loves kidnapping kids -hates women This guy is a born again christian how?
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Oatgan posted:I absolutely lost it when Russo defended booking to swerve internet smarks by saying that the 12 year old kid who goes to a dirtsheet and smartens up about the business isn't just one kid. That kid told all his friends on the playground about The Biz and now they're all smarks too! I had a friend who was totally that kid... he would be a dick and read Raw spoilers from the tapings, and then pretend like he could predict what would happen on Raw when he watched it as it aired. I also remember him telling us that Sid was going to return at No Way Out 1998 to replace HBK in the 8 Man Tag. Instead it was Savio Vega. Biggest let down ever
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coconono posted:This guy is a born again christian how? I thought the bible encouraged hating women?
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All Russo's shoots kind of blur into one for me, but I seem to recall on this one he comes out with the "I can't write something I know to be untrue. I know wrestling is fake so how can I pretend its not." Russo doesn't understand fiction.
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Skinty McEdger posted:Russo doesn't understand fiction. Bro I know. But,
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Russo's really easy to listen to, because whenever he says "I've gotta be honest" and does that little dramatic effect pause, you just know some bullshit is coming your way. That's where all the quotes live.
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HulkaMatt posted:Bro I know. What people don't understand is
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Oatgan posted:What people don't understand is Ya see, with the politics
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