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movax
Aug 30, 2008

el_brio posted:

Is there a GPU thread here at SA?

We're kind of using the AMD thread as a GPU thread at the moment. I'm going to share what I have written as an OP for a dedicated thread there this weekend because I need help finishing it.

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Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

el_brio posted:

Is there a GPU thread here at SA?
Depends on what you want to talk about. Do you need advice on upgrading? There's a stickied thread for that. Otherwise, AMD and NVIDIA threads come and go as news dictates.

el_brio
Feb 17, 2012

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

Depends on what you want to talk about. Do you need advice on upgrading? There's a stickied thread for that. Otherwise, AMD and NVIDIA threads come and go as news dictates.

I am looking for a 680 availability / 7970 price drop bitch-fest thread I guess. LOL.

OhhCrap
Jul 9, 2006
<img src='https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-ohhcrap.jpg'><br>Of course, that can backfire... some men like their bitches crazy.

el_brio posted:

I am looking for a 680 availability / 7970 price drop bitch-fest thread I guess. LOL.
For now, F5 the poo poo out of Newegg. Or pay extra.

Bensa
Aug 21, 2007

Loyal 'til the end.

movax posted:

Assuming you heat-gunned it/put it the oven/otherwise reflowed the board, you likely compromised some of the joints on the LVDS signal pathway, be it the BGA balls of the GPU, the LVDS connector, or any level-shift ICs in-between.

Or the cable's damaged, but seems like the display was working perfectly before the GPU died of tin whiskers, so more likely you may not have completely reflowed the GPU.

At what point do signal paths for the DVI out and LCD out diverge? I could give it another heat treatment if I knew what to target knowing that DVI out still functions.

I used a hot air rework station (more targeted than a heat gun), so its possible that there's something messed up. The fact that the functioning DVI out is located on the GPU side of the motherboard, opposite of the ribbon cable connector for the LCD, would make me think that the DVI signal path would be more susceptible to damage from overheating as its closer to the GPU.
Frankly I wasn't too careful with the disassembly since it required a bit of force, so it might even be the surface mount ribbon connector.

movax
Aug 30, 2008

Bensa posted:

At what point do signal paths for the DVI out and LCD out diverge? I could give it another heat treatment if I knew what to target knowing that DVI out still functions.

I used a hot air rework station (more targeted than a heat gun), so its possible that there's something messed up. The fact that the functioning DVI out is located on the GPU side of the motherboard, opposite of the ribbon cable connector for the LCD, would make me think that the DVI signal path would be more susceptible to damage from overheating as its closer to the GPU.
Frankly I wasn't too careful with the disassembly since it required a bit of force, so it might even be the surface mount ribbon connector.

I wouldn't know without looking at the BGA ball-out for that particular GPU. It's possible that maybe you just damaged the SMT connector for the ribbon cable, or that a few of the balls outputting LVDS are cold-jointed to the board; for comedy option, you could try C-clamping the GPU to the board (gently) and see if it begins to work.

Arcturas
Mar 30, 2011

Question about headsets for laptops. I have a macbook pro, and while it claims to have both 3.5 mm microphone and headphone jacks, the microphone jack is unpowered so I haven't really found a mike that works for it.

For the moment, I've been using a logitech headset. Unfortunately, the plastic that goes around the back of my head has snapped and constantly using superglue to repair it is getting old (and isn't working any more). Thus, I have two questions for you all.

First, what headset do you folks recommend for gaming/general use? It needs to be able to play sound and have a microphone for Vent / TS use. Doesn't have to be fancy. I'd prefer $100 or less, but am flexible.

Second, can I re-use the Logitech USB dongle attachment thingy with non-Logitech headsets? It opens up a much wider variety of possible headsets, and the other USB sound cards often take up more width than the USB port (like this, unlike this), which is a problem on my laptop because I like using the immediately adjacent USB port for my mouse.

Endymion FRS MK1
Oct 29, 2011

I don't know what this thing is, and I don't care. I'm just tired of seeing your stupid newbie av from 2011.
I just put in some new memory, and it wouldn't boot, giving me a long beep. I opened it back up and noticed my board is only 1.5v for memory, while the stuff I put in was 1.65v. I didn't hurt the memory with that, did I? It's still good for when I upgrade to a new board/CPU?

Dogen
May 5, 2002

Bury my body down by the highwayside, so that my old evil spirit can get a Greyhound bus and ride

Endymion FRS MK1 posted:

I just put in some new memory, and it wouldn't boot, giving me a long beep. I opened it back up and noticed my board is only 1.5v for memory, while the stuff I put in was 1.65v. I didn't hurt the memory with that, did I? It's still good for when I upgrade to a new board/CPU?

Uh, voltages are going down, so... your new board will also want 1.5v or less. Chips on smaller processes tolerate less voltage.

scanlonman
Feb 7, 2008

by R. Guyovich
EDIT: Please ignore!

scanlonman fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Apr 6, 2012

Endymion FRS MK1
Oct 29, 2011

I don't know what this thing is, and I don't care. I'm just tired of seeing your stupid newbie av from 2011.

Dogen posted:

Uh, voltages are going down, so... your new board will also want 1.5v or less. Chips on smaller processes tolerate less voltage.

I already have the memory, it was a prize. Not really anything I can do except deal with it. I'm just worried about the memory itself, I didn't like short it out or anything did I? I am very paranoid about things like this.

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed
College Slice

Endymion FRS MK1 posted:

I already have the memory, it was a prize. Not really anything I can do except deal with it. I'm just worried about the memory itself, I didn't like short it out or anything did I? I am very paranoid about things like this.
No, feeding something a lower voltage than it wants can't hurt it, it's higher voltages that are a risk. Ebay the memory, and if you want new/more RAM, use the money to buy 1.5v DDR3.

Endymion FRS MK1
Oct 29, 2011

I don't know what this thing is, and I don't care. I'm just tired of seeing your stupid newbie av from 2011.
When I buy a Z77 board, and if I keep the 1.65v memory, will I run into any problems? Or can I just put it in and it works? At very least I'd probably need to boot into the bios and change voltage on the board, right?

movax
Aug 30, 2008

Endymion FRS MK1 posted:

When I buy a Z77 board, and if I keep the 1.65v memory, will I run into any problems? Or can I just put it in and it works? At very least I'd probably need to boot into the bios and change voltage on the board, right?

You'll be fine; the memory is rated for the higher voltage (assuming due to its 'higher performance') and the IMC on the CPU should not have an issue with it. For max stability, yes you'll have to change the DRAM voltage in BIOS.

Endymion FRS MK1
Oct 29, 2011

I don't know what this thing is, and I don't care. I'm just tired of seeing your stupid newbie av from 2011.
Alright, thanks. The one I'm on now is an old G43 board so I wasn't expecting too much success, but was more concerned about an upgrade. Cool that I get to keep this memory now.

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed
College Slice
Using 1.65v memory isn't recommended with Sandy Bridge CPUs, it may go straight to being a Bad Idea(tm) with Ivy Bridge.

Sab669
Sep 24, 2009

I saw a Keyboard megathread, but no mouse one.

Did Logitech discontinue the MX 518 :ohdear:?
I got a new job and my boss was asking if I had any mouse / keyboard preferences and I went to go look up the price of the 518 on NewEgg only to find it was deactivated. Amazon has them for like, a $100!

I'll be super sad if Logitech has stopped making them.

Dogen
May 5, 2002

Bury my body down by the highwayside, so that my old evil spirit can get a Greyhound bus and ride

Alereon posted:

Using 1.65v memory isn't recommended with Sandy Bridge CPUs, it may go straight to being a Bad Idea(tm) with Ivy Bridge.

This is the concern I was trying to express, but you said it better.

future ghost
Dec 5, 2005

:byetankie:
Gun Saliva

Sab669 posted:

I saw a Keyboard megathread, but no mouse one.

Did Logitech discontinue the MX 518 :ohdear:?
I got a new job and my boss was asking if I had any mouse / keyboard preferences and I went to go look up the price of the 518 on NewEgg only to find it was deactivated. Amazon has them for like, a $100!

I'll be super sad if Logitech has stopped making them.
They might have a newer revision out.

Check the mouse thread:
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3222963

Sab669
Sep 24, 2009

My bad, I didn't realize that was the go-to Mouse Megathread.

Endymion FRS MK1
Oct 29, 2011

I don't know what this thing is, and I don't care. I'm just tired of seeing your stupid newbie av from 2011.

Alereon posted:

Using 1.65v memory isn't recommended with Sandy Bridge CPUs, it may go straight to being a Bad Idea(tm) with Ivy Bridge.

Would I be better off selling it then and picking up this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231417
like I intended to in the first place?

oldpainless
Oct 30, 2009

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Please let me know if there is another thread better suited for this question, but does Windows 7 play Warcraft 3 out of the box? I found a set of the games/expansion packs but the requirements states Xp/Vista, so is there some extra work I have to do?

IT Guy
Jan 12, 2010

You people drink like you don't want to live!

oldpainless posted:

Please let me know if there is another thread better suited for this question, but does Windows 7 play Warcraft 3 out of the box? I found a set of the games/expansion packs but the requirements states Xp/Vista, so is there some extra work I have to do?

I believe Blizzard maintains compatibility for their older games considering they still sell them on battle.net.

I just purchased Diablo 2 and it runs in Windows 7 just fine. I also have Starcraft Brood War running great on Windows 7. I haven't tried Warcraft 3 though.

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Oct 30, 2009

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Thanks, I haven't played any PC games in years but I remember liking Warcraft 3 a lot.

IT Guy
Jan 12, 2010

You people drink like you don't want to live!

oldpainless posted:

Thanks, I haven't played any PC games in years but I remember liking Warcraft 3 a lot.

Just a note, if you have UAC turned on, you may have to run the games as administrator. I have to run D2 and SC:BW as administrator.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

IT Guy posted:

Just a note, if you have UAC turned on

That shouldn't be an "if".

Penguin Bacon
Apr 19, 2010
My Klipsch 2.1s finally gave out. I need to replace it with another 2.1 system. Anyone have a good recommendation?

(Maybe a good sound card for it too since I'm currently running a SBlive Xtreme Gamer.)

IT Guy
Jan 12, 2010

You people drink like you don't want to live!

Install Gentoo posted:

That shouldn't be an "if".

Unfortunately, in 2012, it still is.

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed
College Slice

Endymion FRS MK1 posted:

Would I be better off selling it then and picking up this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231417
like I intended to in the first place?
Yes. I'd get DDR3-1600 though, it's not really any more expensive.

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Oct 30, 2009

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Warcraft 3 installed and plays with no problems whatsoever so I was slightly distressed for no reason. Thanks.

intheflesh
Nov 4, 2008
So my computer decided to start doing an annoying thing. The CPU fan will be chillen at 800 RPM, what I assume is the low speed, and will then for no apparent reason go up to super ultra full speed 2000 RPM oh my god the computer is melting for about 5 seconds, then back down to normal speed, then repeat the cycle in about 20 seconds. It does this on every fan speed setting I could find in bios. I could seem to only adjust the 'base' speed, setting it to 800 or 1200, but the fan still goes up to 2000 for no reason. All temps normal, no overclocking, pretty much dust-free case. i5-2500, supermicro motherboard, antec case and power, coolermaster (whatever the model number was, it is enormous, Hyper 212 I think?) CPU heatsink and fan.
Started doing this a few days ago, I have changed nothing on this machine in months, and not so much as moved it in the past few weeks. Using hwinfo64 to gather this info, I've seen that cpu temps never exceed ~24C at idle, and ~42C at load. I can't seem to find any setting in bios that will allow me to manually adjust fan speeds or set limits, only options for 'fan management' to be eco, normal, or optimal, all of which adjust only the base speed, CPU fan still goes into turbine mode all the time. I wouldn't care about the fan not choosing a speed to be at, except that at full tilt the CPU fan is much louder than the rest of the system. The volume fluctuation is getting to me. Its like I've got an ocean shores pink noise generator except even more annoying.
So what broke and how do I fix it?

Saki
Jan 9, 2008

Can't you feel the knife?
I've been having net problems for a while now. Originally assumed it was my isp and router, but have moved and the problem persists. I'm using http://www.amazon.co.uk/NWD2105-150Mbps-802-11n-Wireless-Adapter/dp/B0041X9NJG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1334165363&sr=8-1 as my wireless adapter. I'm mainly gaming and my connection is fine 80% of the time but I drop every couple hours and also get a lot of unexplained lag every now and then. Could anyone recommend a better adapter that remains affordable?

IT Guy
Jan 12, 2010

You people drink like you don't want to live!

Saki posted:

I've been having net problems for a while now. Originally assumed it was my isp and router, but have moved and the problem persists. I'm using http://www.amazon.co.uk/NWD2105-150Mbps-802-11n-Wireless-Adapter/dp/B0041X9NJG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1334165363&sr=8-1 as my wireless adapter. I'm mainly gaming and my connection is fine 80% of the time but I drop every couple hours and also get a lot of unexplained lag every now and then. Could anyone recommend a better adapter that remains affordable?

Did you first rule out the router by hooking up to its wired ports?

This one I have heard good things about. It's also the top seller on Newegg with 5 eggs and over 1000 reviews.

lilcasino
Jun 4, 2001
Is there any use for DDR memory, I have a lot from upgrades. I hate to just throw them away.

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

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I gotta try dis!

lilcasino posted:

Is there any use for DDR memory, I have a lot from upgrades. I hate to just throw them away.

The only real use is as memory for older PCs, so you'd do best to either ebay it or donate it to someone who's using an older PC.

IT Guy
Jan 12, 2010

You people drink like you don't want to live!
What he^ said.

I've sold a lot of old DDR400 RAM doing personal computer repairs. It's amazing how many people simply don't upgrade from their XP era machines.

CancerStick
Jun 3, 2011
Two fold question.

The CPU fan in my Zalman heat sink had stopped working. I had another issue and noticed it with the side open. In the bios the temp was reaching 70C before I shut it down. I RMAd the Zalman and they sent me the new fan.

Now, I didn't have any thermal paste for some reason. I replaced the fan and thought, "I'll give it a shot." The good news is that the fan is working. I have had it booted for about 15 minutes. I have it sitting in the bios screen and am watching the temp. It climbed pretty easily to 40C. It soon went to 41... then 42.. Eventually it got to 45C. It sat there for a few minutes. It's now at 47C and it's been sitting there for about 5 minutes. Am I to assume this is too hot?

e: i5 2500K processor for reference.

1.) If too hot, is it probably the paste?

2.) If so, is there a local place that I can pick that up or is it tough to find locally. I live in Dayton, Ohio for reference.

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed
College Slice
Do not use your system without thermal paste. Any store that sells computer parts should sell packets of Zinc Oxide/Silicone thermal paste for $1, there's no need to buy fancier paste like Arctic Silver.

CancerStick
Jun 3, 2011

Alereon posted:

Do not use your system without thermal paste. Any store that sells computer parts should sell packets of Zinc Oxide/Silicone thermal paste for $1, there's no need to buy fancier paste like Arctic Silver.

There was thermal paste, just what was left over. They didn't send me a whole new heatsink, just a fan. I had to unscrew the old one from the heatsink and replace that. So, like I said, there was thermal paste, just not a fresh coating.

I was probably still asking for trouble though?

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Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!

CancerStick posted:

There was thermal paste, just what was left over. They didn't send me a whole new heatsink, just a fan. I had to unscrew the old one from the heatsink and replace that. So, like I said, there was thermal paste, just not a fresh coating.

I was probably still asking for trouble though?

Yeah, as you pull old thermal paste up, it will stick to the heat sink and the cpu, causing it to split unevenly in patterns that could trap and hold air bubbles. It will probably be okay short term but you really want to get some thermal paste and reapply it while remounting your HSF.

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