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bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Soonmot posted:

I will never forgive that rear end in a top hat for Shaq-Fu. What a horrible game.

Shaq-fu was amazing almost as amazing as Kazzam.

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Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
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bobkatt013 posted:

Shaq-fu was amazing almost as amazing as Kazzam.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


At least we can all agree Steel is still the best movie ever.

al-azad
May 28, 2009



I just thought it was funny when Shaq challenges Sir Charles to a game of golf. Shaq can't find clubs long enough for him and a baby can beat Charles on the green. The result was two farts trading jokes and flubbing shots.

Darth Nat
Aug 24, 2007

It all comes out right in the end.
I thought I'd catch up on I, Vampire, and I thought this was a particularly good spread from #7 by Andrea Sorrentino. This seems like one of the only books that hasn't really succumbed to the art getting worse as the artist gets more rushed or a fill-in has to come on board to help finish issues.

al-azad
May 28, 2009



I want to know if that's an actual woodcut or a painstaking recreation. I've only seen one graphic novel that was actually done as a series of hand carved prints.

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic

al-azad posted:

I want to know if that's an actual woodcut or a painstaking recreation. I've only seen one graphic novel that was actually done as a series of hand carved prints.

Whichever it is that is some drat fine art and I must get my hands on it.

Baron Bifford
May 24, 2006
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These pics come from What If? House of M #1. The art is by Paolo Pantalena. I've seen his deviantART page and I actually like most of what I see there (especially this sweet Witchblade sketch), but his work in this book leaves me a little flustered. I don't know whether to love it or hate it. I think I hate it mostly.

This is his Peter Parker and Mary Jane:


This is his Reed Richards. My eyes are inordinately drawn to his crotch. Also, his eyes should be pointing upwards, given Red Skull's logical position.


And this is his Maria Hill and Iron Man


Ms Marvel and She-Hulk (depowered)

Baron Bifford fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Apr 6, 2012

Baron Bifford
May 24, 2006
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bobkatt013 posted:

Shaq-fu was amazing almost as amazing as Kazzam.
I really ought to read a book some day that will explain to me why celebrities and movie producers tend to produce utterly crap tie-in games. There must be a good reason why none of them ever hire a reputable developer like Bioware or Valve or Blizzard or Irrational.

Humboldt Squid
Jan 21, 2006

al-azad posted:

I want to know if that's an actual woodcut or a painstaking recreation. I've only seen one graphic novel that was actually done as a series of hand carved prints.

It looks like a line drawing with a "woodcut" texture applied in photoshop, actually. Look how the hatching doesn't actually describe the shape of the object it's applied to, like in this one by gustav dore

Baron Bifford
May 24, 2006
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Is that from Dante's Inferno? Who are those giants and what are they being punished for?

SexyBlindfold
Apr 24, 2008
i dont care how much probation i get capital letters are for squares hehe im so laid back an nice please read my low effort shitposts about the arab spring

thanxs!!!

Baron Bifford posted:

This is his Peter Parker and Mary Jane:


This is his Reed Richards. My eyes are inordinately drawn to his crotch. Also, his eyes should be pointing upwards, given Red Skull's logical position.


And this is his Maria Hill and Iron Man


literally the only good thing i can rescue from these is that he didn't add liefeld-style wrinkles to iron man's helmet.

Silhouette
Nov 16, 2002

SONIC BOOM!!!

Baron Bifford posted:

These pics come from What If? House of M #1. The art is by Paolo Pantalena. I've seen his deviantART page and I actually like most of what I see there (especially this sweet Witchblade sketch), but his work in this book leaves me a little flustered. I don't know whether to love it or hate it. I think I hate it mostly.

This is his Peter Parker and Mary Jane:


This is his Reed Richards. My eyes are inordinately drawn to his crotch. Also, his eyes should be pointing upwards, given Red Skull's logical position.


And this is his Maria Hill and Iron Man


Jesus christ, he's like the unholy marriage of Joe Mad and Humberto Ramos' worst qualities.

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic
Either that's Maria is very short or Iron Man became seven feet tall at some point :raise:

Daggerpants
Aug 31, 2004

I am Kara Zor-El, the last daughter of Krypton

Baron Bifford posted:

Is that from Dante's Inferno? Who are those giants and what are they being punished for?

It is indeed: "Virgil pointing out Ephialtes and the other giants."

The Slippery Nipple
Mar 27, 2010

Baron Bifford posted:

These pics come from What If? House of M #1. The art is by Paolo Pantalena. I've seen his deviantART page and I actually like most of what I see there (especially this sweet Witchblade sketch), but his work in this book leaves me a little flustered. I don't know whether to love it or hate it. I think I hate it mostly.

This is his Peter Parker and Mary Jane:


This is his Reed Richards. My eyes are inordinately drawn to his crotch. Also, his eyes should be pointing upwards, given Red Skull's logical position.


And this is his Maria Hill and Iron Man


Holy loving poo poo, please tell me no one buys any thing he illustrates because I can't understand how anyone could read that with out shooting blood out of every orifice.

Baron Bifford
May 24, 2006
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World's Finest #1 from 2000. Art by Dave Taylor. This is perhaps one of the lamest covers I've ever seen for a superhero comic. There's no attempt at anything striking or dramatic. It's like they're waiting around for the bus or something.


The interior art is just as abominable.


He can't keep faces consistent. Jimmy Olsen's face is constantly shifting. If he wasn't the only guy in Metropolis to have red hair and wear a green suit, his friends would never recognize him.


Baron Bifford fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Apr 7, 2012

Madrox
Jan 31, 2001

Does whatever
a multiple can.
Wha... What exactly is going on with Supergirl there? Is she wearing a 2-inch long skirt? And that is an odd position to fly in...

On the first page, the villains are apparently all walking along at a weird angle if the building in the background is anything to go on.

Madrox fucked around with this message at 11:11 on Apr 7, 2012

Mister Roboto
Jun 15, 2009

I SWING BY AUNT MAY's
FOR A SHOWER AND A
BITE, MOST NATURAL
THING IN THE WORLD,
ASSUMING SHE'S
NOT HOME...

...AND I
FIND HER IN BED
WITH MY
FATHER, AND THE
TWO OF THEM
ARE...ARE...

...AAAAAAAAUUUUGH!
Those could be tracings, which is why the depth perception and character faces are all over the place.

Baron Bifford
May 24, 2006
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I also wonder why Deadshot would be incarcerated at Arkham.

Romes128
Dec 28, 2008


Fun Shoe
Superman looks like the douchiest motherfucker alive.

DJ Turbo Punch
Feb 3, 2006

WAKE UP


Madrox posted:

Wha... What exactly is going on with Supergirl there? Is she wearing a 2-inch long skirt? And that is an odd position to fly in...

I thought the same thing. My first thought was "traced from porn".

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



In his defense, none of them seem to be flying. They're clearly just posing in mid-air while falling.

mints
Aug 15, 2001

Living on past glories
I've been working my way through the old Valiant books, and I found an image in X-O Manowar 62 that speaks volumes about why they pulled the plug. The early stuff has held up surprisingly well, but this stuff from the end is just awful.



edit:forgot to include the image

mints fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Apr 7, 2012

al-azad
May 28, 2009



Baron Bifford posted:

World's Finest #1 from 2000. Art by Dave Taylor. This is perhaps one of the lamest covers I've ever seen for a superhero comic. There's no attempt at anything striking or dramatic. It's like they're waiting around for the bus or something.



So DC will recolor over their best artists against their wishes but allows garbage like this to pass when it's being used on their most popular licenses? Makes total sense.

rkajdi
Sep 11, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

al-azad posted:

So DC will recolor over their best artists against their wishes but allows garbage like this to pass when it's being used on their most popular licenses? Makes total sense.

DC != Valiant, unless something happened towards the end that I'm unaware of. Really, Valiant was best when it was a Jim Shooter operation, and went downhill after that until it ended in a pile of poo poo.

Baron Bifford
May 24, 2006
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al-azad posted:

So DC will recolor over their best artists against their wishes but allows garbage like this to pass when it's being used on their most popular licenses? Makes total sense.

That's from 2000. I've noticed that DC art in recent years has gotten very good; it's mostly the 90s stuff like that which is bad.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


rkajdi posted:

DC != Valiant, unless something happened towards the end that I'm unaware of. Really, Valiant was best when it was a Jim Shooter operation, and went downhill after that until it ended in a pile of poo poo.

He's bitching about Worlds Finest from 2000, and the recoloring of Flex Mentallo and Killing Joke probably.

al-azad
May 28, 2009



Die Laughing posted:

He's bitching about Worlds Finest from 2000, and the recoloring of Flex Mentallo and Killing Joke probably.

And the Year One deluxe edition and the 2004 Incal butchering. But seriously, I know a lot of the examples posted here are extreme cases but if World's Finest crossed my desk as an editor I would write it off as a loss immediately.

Heresiarch
Oct 6, 2005

Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.

Die Laughing posted:

the recoloring of Flex Mentallo

Wait, what?

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
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Heresiarch posted:

Wait, what?

People are bitching about the recoloring even though the original creators signed off on it and are heavily praising it.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

You can see some examples here.

Personally I prefer the old palette for most of the weird things, but the new palette does add a bit in the "real world" scenes.

Heresiarch
Oct 6, 2005

Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.
I've got mixed feelings about that, yeah. The new coloring is good, but the old coloring had a certain something to it.

Happy Hippo
Aug 8, 2004

The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > Batman's Shameful Secret > BSS Derailed Thread: Spider-Island

I prefer the new coloring in Killing Joke. :colbert:

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Rhyno posted:

People are bitching about the recoloring even though the original creators signed off on it and are heavily praising it.

Don't make me invoke George Lucas.

Happy Hippo posted:

I prefer the new coloring in Killing Joke. :colbert:

I'm sorry about your blindness.

SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL
Feb 21, 2006

Holy Moly! DARKSEID IS!

Baron Bifford posted:

I also wonder why Deadshot would be incarcerated at Arkham.

Deadshot started out as a Batman villain way back in the day. No idea if this is in continuity now, but he was initially imprisoned in Arkham and didn't become an assassin until after serving his term.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
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Lurdiak posted:

Don't make me invoke George Lucas.


G-Mo and Quietly are a far cry from Lucas.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Rhyno posted:

G-Mo and Quietly are a far cry from Lucas.

I was just making a point that authorial approval of changes doesn't mean they're necessary changes or good ones. It's an empty appeal to authority.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
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Lurdiak posted:

I was just making a point that authorial approval of changes doesn't mean they're necessary changes or good ones. It's an empty appeal to authority.

But in this case the creators have no track record of creating horrible poo poo.

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Servoret
Nov 8, 2009



SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:

Deadshot started out as a Batman villain way back in the day. No idea if this is in continuity now, but he was initially imprisoned in Arkham and didn't become an assassin until after serving his term.

Actually Deadshot went to normal people prison, and he broke out of there for his second appearance. Arkham Asylum wasn't even a thing when he first appeared.



Marshall Rogers/Terry Austin, Detective Comics #474

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