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Auron posted:No, its not smaller than the Nexus. It actually has the exact same dimensions. 134.8 x 68.9 x 8.9 mm is smaller in every dimension than 135.5 x 67.94 x 9.47 mm in my book.  As a bonus, the HTC weighs less too.
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Mark Larson posted:Wait for the EVO 4G LTE. Its smaller than the Galaxy Nexus, has a bigger display, a better camera and capacitive buttons. EVO 4G LTE + Faster CPU and GPU + Larger Display + Kick Stand + Slightly Smaller body + Slightly larger screen + Larger Battery +/- dedicated capacitive buttons +/- SLCD 2 screen - HTC Sense - Wont't be available till June Galaxy Nexus + Available on 4/22 + Google Nexus device means faster updates for longer from Google + Stock Android experience +/- onscreen adaptive buttons +/- SAMOLED Screen I know this chart makes the EVO 4G LTE look a lot better, but honestly I would still buy the Galaxy Nexus over it because of the stock android. The G-Nex is still a very very power cell phone even if the EVO LTE is faster.
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I think I'm going to wait with my dying Epic 4G until June so you guys can tell us how much you love/hate you GNex phones.
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rock2much posted:I think I'm going to wait with my dying Epic 4G until June so you guys can tell us how much you love/hate you GNex phones. Have you flashed the CM9 beta 2 to your Epic 4G? I did. Battery life isn't as good as CM7 was, but this seems to run flawlessly.
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Anyone had any luck getting them to let you "Bill to Account" since they decided to get rid of it? I called and basically got told to gently caress myself.
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I think it bears repeating that my Nexus S (with hardware equivalent to the Epic 4G) is snappier than my Evo 3D (with a dual core processor that is faster on each core and twice the RAM). You don't quite get a feel for how much bullshit the manufacturer heaps on the phone until you get to use them side by side. The Nexus S is as speedy as a phone with the next generation of hardware. Or, a non-nexus phone has so much poo poo jammed up in it that it's handicapped a generation's worth of performance. You can't expect third party support for a phone anymore (thanks, EVO 3D!) and even then the vast majority of the ROMs are aiming for a bare AOSP experience anyway. The Sprint Megathread: gently caress non-Nexus phones. e: Lowen SoDium posted:I know this chart makes the EVO 4G LTE look a lot better, but honestly I would still buy the Galaxy Nexus over it because of the stock android. The G-Nex is still a very very power cell phone even if the EVO LTE is faster. The GNex is probably faster on account of everything I said above. Buying the EVO 4G LTE is basically an invitation to get angry about how everyone with the GN (and possibly the NS4G) are rollin' jellybean while you're waiting for HTC to tell you your update is coming some time within a 12-month window. FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Apr 16, 2012 |
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Vykk.Draygo posted:The international S3 hasn't even been revealed yet. It would be months before the Sprint version would be released, if there even is a Sprint version. The assumed justification for pushing back the announcement date was to shorten the time between announcement and release. It's also been assumed that due to the overall international success of the galaxy line that Samsung would be launching the phone simultaneously in multiple markets. With the announcement set to be made on May 3rd its quite conceivable that the GS3 will be for sale in the US before Sprint even launches the Galaxy Nexus. I worry that Sprint may skip the initial offering to let the Nexus hold the spotlight for a little longer.
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Lowen SoDium posted:EVO 4G LTE We all have our own experience and our own preference, but when I was running an AOSP rom on my phone I really felt like it was a more basic phone. When I had Sense, I loved having the built-in apps and widgets, it really made for a much more functional phone. And most people I know with AOSP roms/phones used some ad-ridden poo poo from the market to replace the AOSP Launcher anyway. gently caress paying for widgets and stuff from the market to replicate stuff that Sense has built-in. Also, capacitive buttons is definitely a plus. 
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Mark Larson posted:134.8 x 68.9 x 8.9 mm is smaller in every dimension than 135.5 x 67.94 x 9.47 mm in my book. Ok so technically it is smaller by less than 1mm in length, width and height. ONE FRICKEN MILLIMETER. You were recommending this to a guy who said the Nexus is too big...I don't think less than 1mm difference is going to convince him that the EVO isn't too big.
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Giblet posted:The assumed justification for pushing back the announcement date was to shorten the time between announcement and release. It's also been assumed that due to the overall international success of the galaxy line that Samsung would be launching the phone simultaneously in multiple markets. Since Sprint is launching the Galaxy Nexus on 4/22, I find your scenario highly unlikely. Auron posted:Ok so technically it is smaller by less than 1mm in length, width and height. ONE FRICKEN MILLIMETER. You were recommending this to a guy who said the Nexus is too big...I don't think less than 1mm difference is going to convince him that the EVO isn't too big. Mostly I agree with you, but the .5mm thinner device would probably feel noticeably thinner in the hand. Still, having said that, the EVO 4G LTE and the Galaxy Nexus are essentially the same size.
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Auron posted:Ok so technically it is smaller by less than 1mm in length, width and height. ONE FRICKEN MILLIMETER. You were recommending this to a guy who said the Nexus is too big...I don't think less than 1mm difference is going to convince him that the EVO isn't too big. Actually the EVO is a bit wider so his statement about smaller in every dimension is crap
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Why? They are both just input on the digitizer layer.
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tijag posted:Since Sprint is launching the Galaxy Nexus on 4/22, I find your scenario highly unlikely. You are correct, I thought I had seen 5/22 but I was mistaken. Even so I dont know if they would be willing to do Galaxy Nexus late April, EVO LTE in June, and the GS3 either sandwiched between or a few weeks after the EVO.
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Only to play devil's advocate, but I remember an article earlier in the year with Dan saying that sprint was going to be "Very aggressive" from April to August. I got the impression it was to do with phones
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I have an Evo 4G that has dead spots (spots where the touchscreen refuses to work) and an Evo 3D where parts of the touchscreen will activate randomly (ghosting). What's the best way to present this at a sprint store so they will actually get fixed/replaced?
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Mark Larson posted:We all have our own experience and our own preference, but when I was running an AOSP rom on my phone I really felt like it was a more basic phone. When I had Sense, I loved having the built-in apps and widgets, it really made for a much more functional phone. And most people I know with AOSP roms/phones used some ad-ridden poo poo from the market to replace the AOSP Launcher anyway. gently caress paying for widgets and stuff from the market to replicate stuff that Sense has built-in. Another thing to consider is that you cannot replace the battery in the HTC EVO 4G LTE. I like having the option of an external charger and battery. Between this and the faster updates, I picked the Nexus. I have an old EVO 4G now, and not being able to get ICS for the past few months has been killing me. I guess I'm an OS whore.
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Mark Larson posted:We all have our own experience and our own preference, but when I was running an AOSP rom on my phone I really felt like it was a more basic phone. When I had Sense, I loved having the built-in apps and widgets, it really made for a much more functional phone. And most people I know with AOSP roms/phones used some ad-ridden poo poo from the market to replace the AOSP Launcher anyway. gently caress paying for widgets and stuff from the market to replicate stuff that Sense has built-in. I think I'm lost. I just moved from Sense to ICS and am not missing anything. Oh wait, there's no weather clock taking up half the home screen.
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The Entire Universe posted:Oh wait, there's no weather clock taking up half the home screen.
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ExcessBLarg! posted:Here you go! Where the gently caress are the ads? Also: ICS' calendar widget is gorgeous. Is there a way to replace it with something bulkier and all uggoed up? E: hey, if I have my sprint number linked to Google voice, will I still have email archival of texts if I elect to have my SMS come in on the default ICS messaging app? Or do I have to have it through the GV app for the emails to happen? FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 07:08 on Apr 17, 2012 |
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The Entire Universe posted:Where the gently caress are the ads? Texts will still get archived. The texts are still going through GV, you're just not getting notified about them.
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Tatsujin posted:I have an Evo 4G that has dead spots (spots where the touchscreen refuses to work) and an Evo 3D where parts of the touchscreen will activate randomly (ghosting). What's the best way to present this at a sprint store so they will actually get fixed/replaced? Get one of the free multi touch test applications that puts colored circles under each finger, and use that to graphically show the techs.
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Giblet posted:You are correct, I thought I had seen 5/22 but I was mistaken. Even so I dont know if they would be willing to do Galaxy Nexus late April, EVO LTE in June, and the GS3 either sandwiched between or a few weeks after the EVO. Also rumors is Apple is going back to its summer date of releasing a new iPhone. So good chance you can not only pencil in the iPhone 5 in that same June or July time frame, but the 4S will drop in the price. It is going to be interesting to see how the Android phones do this summer with so many people hitting their 2 year upgrade with the EVO. Will they stick with the EVO name? Or go iPhone? Or will they realize what a Nexus phone is? I am amazed to this day that most consumers have zero idea of the advantages of a Nexus phone. I would say 95% have no idea.
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sirbeefalot posted:e; I'm assuming the most painless way to do this is to activate the new phone on his line, adding the premium data charge at that point, and then call and switch the two devices? Sorry to quote myself but I can't seem to find anything definitive about this. I want to swap the new GNex that I ordered with my boss's upgrade with my EVO3D when it arrives. Am I going to run into any problems? Should I activate the Galaxy Nexus on the boss's line first or not? He doesn't have Premium Data added yet either way (though I imagine this would just be added when either the GNex or EVO are activated on his line).
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sirbeefalot posted:Sorry to quote myself but I can't seem to find anything definitive about this. I want to swap the new GNex that I ordered with my boss's upgrade with my EVO3D when it arrives. Am I going to run into any problems? Should I activate the Galaxy Nexus on the boss's line first or not? He doesn't have Premium Data added yet either way (though I imagine this would just be added when either the GNex or EVO are activated on his line). Should be no problem. I got my EVO using my wife's upgrade and switch it to my line that day. I got my iPhone 4S using one of my kid's upgrades, and I plan to get the iPhone 5 for myself using my wife's upgrade (my wife used mine last year to get her a EVO 3D). Rule of the house is Daddy get's to use 1 upgrade a year. Edit: I got all my upgrades from Best Buy. They always activate the phone on the line that is being upgraded. All I did was go home and call Sprint to switch the lines. nate fisher fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Apr 17, 2012 |
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nate fisher posted:Also rumors is Apple is going back to its summer date of releasing a new iPhone. So good chance you can not only pencil in the iPhone 5 in that same June or July time frame, but the 4S will drop in the price.
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Auron posted:It just seems like most people don't care that the Nexus is pretty much the "official" Google phone and will always have the latest software. They want whatever the salesperson tells them is the best, or what they think looks the best. The new EVO will probably outsell the Nexus by 400% just off the EVO name alone. I can't really complain too much, the EVO is a great phone. Well the marketing of the device does nothing to distinguished between the phones. If you take away my access to the internet I wouldn't know either. Still no excuse for a consumer not researching any major purchase. I also feel like the EVO will either outsell the Nexus or it will get lost in the iPhone 5 hype. It wouldn't surprise me between the 4S and 5 it will sell more than the EVO, Nexus, and G3 combine on Sprint. I am very fond of the EVO (I do think they made mistakes with the EVO 3D), and I hope Sprint doesn't destroy it with bad timing.
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sba posted:Anyone had any luck getting them to let you "Bill to Account" since they decided to get rid of it? I called and basically got told to gently caress myself. Its gone, caput, no more. Giblet posted:You are correct, I thought I had seen 5/22 but I was mistaken. Even so I dont know if they would be willing to do Galaxy Nexus late April, EVO LTE in June, and the GS3 either sandwiched between or a few weeks after the EVO. Last I checked the Evo LTE is either available May 22nd, or that's preorder date. So worst case scenario it launches end of may to June 5th. Tatsujin posted:I have an Evo 4G that has dead spots (spots where the touchscreen refuses to work) and an Evo 3D where parts of the touchscreen will activate randomly (ghosting). What's the best way to present this at a sprint store so they will actually get fixed/replaced? Take it in and show them the screen. Evo screens are easy to come by and we get paid for repairs, so anyone who likes money will do it. If you don't have insurance there is usually a $36 fee. nate fisher posted:Also rumors is Apple is going back to its summer date of releasing a new iPhone. So good chance you can not only pencil in the iPhone 5 in that same June or July time frame, but the 4S will drop in the price. Everyone goes iPhone now. Almost everyone. I did the math, and its 70% of my sales, and I sell a lot of phones. Nexus phones traditionally haven't sold well, the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon included, I would put money that the GNEx will do fine until the Evo LTE comes out. I have a few people asking for the Evo LTE already, though not too many. Auron posted:It just seems like most people don't care that the Nexus is pretty much the "official" Google phone and will always have the latest software. They want whatever the salesperson tells them is the best, or what they think looks the best. The new EVO will probably outsell the Nexus by 400% just off the EVO name alone. I can't really complain too much, the EVO is a great phone. No offense, but now a days they want an iPhone  Mr Fisher is correct that the iPhone 5 will out hype anything else, I had people asking for that phone since the 4S was loving announced. I finally have free time so I'm updating the OP. I think we can all agree that the Galaxy Nexus vs Evo LTE will come down to preference, I still lean towards the Galaxy Nexus simply because you get more guaranteed reliability vs other manufacturer's bugs. That being said, The Nexus S, Verizon GNex, Evo 3D, etc all had bugs their first month out, so it honestly isn't a bad idea to wait a month to confirm that everything is working properly. If you are someone who still has a Touch Pro 2 however, for God's sake just upgrade to either of these and stop hurting yourself. Edit: the Sprint Megathread: Now with crappy pictures Duckman2008 fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Apr 17, 2012 |
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Duckman2008 posted:Last I checked the Evo LTE is either available May 22nd, or that's preorder date. So worst case scenario it launches end of may to June 5th. The preorder date is 5/7, so I'm assuming that 5/22 you saw is availability date. Speaking of preorders, can one of you Sprint folks help clarify the exact terms of this Google Wallet promo that's mentioned on the GNex preorder page? I'm having trouble telling if you have to buy the device from Sprint and activate it before 5/22 or if you can buy it anywhere and activate before 5/22 in order to get the credit. The reason I'm asking is because I signed up for that Phone Freedom $50 gift card promo Best Buy did a few months ago, so I'm planning on buying my new phone there. (Still deciding between the GNex and the Evo LTE, but leaning towards the Nexus.) If I can buy the phone at BB and still get the Google Wallet credit, that means even if I'm lazy and sell my Evo back to Sprint through the buyback program my cost for the Nexus would only be $30 + activation.
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Duckman2008 posted:Its gone, caput, no more. Yeah, I know...but is there any way you can complain and get them to do it??
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Duckman2008 posted:Its gone, caput, no more. Yeah I didn't factor in the iPhone because we were comparing the two top Android phones...but I do agree, most people want an iPhone and that probably will never change.
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nate fisher posted:I am amazed to this day that most consumers have zero idea of the advantages of a Nexus phone. I would say 95% have no idea. It makes sense, but it's a bit of a shame, because a lot more people would probably actually enjoy using an Android phone if they could use stock. Well, THESE days, at least, with 4.0. This is what Android should of been for a long time, bit of a shame it took this long though.
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Auron posted:Yeah I didn't factor in the iPhone because we were comparing the two top Android phones...but I do agree, most people want an iPhone and that probably will never change. I'm confused by this. Obviously there are lots of iPhone's sold, but Android has a larger market share right now than iPhone, and that trend isn't likely to change any time soon is it?
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tijag posted:Obviously there are lots of iPhone's sold, but Android has a larger market share right now than iPhone, and that trend isn't likely to change any time soon is it? It's possible Android may maintain a larger marketshare, particularly as dumbphones are replaced by low-end Android models and it remains popular in the prepaid segment. But it absolutely wouldn't surprise me if Apple retakes the lead in the high-end smartphone segment.
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sba posted:Yeah, I know...but is there any way you can complain and get them to do it??
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tijag posted:I'm confused by this. Obviously there are lots of iPhone's sold, but Android has a larger market share right now than iPhone, and that trend isn't likely to change any time soon is it? There are dozens of Android phones sold, there is only 1 iPhone. Most people I know personally, when upgrading, are getting an iPhone. Every major carrier now carries the iPhone, and even some smaller carriers are getting it. Also someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't think Android had a huge lead over the iPhone.
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sba posted:Yeah, I know...but is there any way you can complain and get them to do it?? Duckman2008 posted:Its gone, caput, no more. ExcessBLarg! posted:Keep in mind that the AT&T exclusivity on the iPhone in the US ended just over a year ago. There's a lot of folks coming out of two-year contracts this year on Verizon and Sprint that may well pick up iPhones and you could see sales numbers change. Also, many folks on T-Mo may well firmly be in the "want an iPhone but can't get one yet" category. This is pretty accurate. Android phones still sell, but a lot of current sprint users either originally wanted an iPhone but couldn't get it, or are mad at their current evo, evo shift, epic, that they had to exchange out 5 times because the goddamn touch screen on the evo shift just doesn't work (extremely frustrating at this point). Then you have Tmobile users, cricket users, and metro pcs users who either can't afford Verizon and/or have huge deposits on Verizon so now they can finally get an iPhone. And this is stereotyping a little bit, but customers on carriers like cricket tend to leant whatever is the flashiest phone out there, which right now is an iPhone (I speak from for,early selling cricket). I can relate, I had an android tablet that just started sucking so I switched to an iPad 2. Of course android phones are completely different quality wise from tablets, but I can sympathize with people getting upset with phone problems (touchscreen failure, no storage for apps, etc) and deciding that "android sucks, an iPhone will fix this." For the record, overall sales numbers for myself are up compared to last year, due to sprint price changes and the iPhone if you want my opinion. Duckman2008 fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Apr 17, 2012 |
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Lowen SoDium posted:Why? Personally, I like having the buttons because they don't take up room on the screen. Here's a Sensation (4.3") compared with a Galaxy Nexus (4.65"). I've seen a few no-button mods as well, so there are some people who prefer the increased screen size more than having the buttons on the screen. With the HTC, you get the bigger screen, a smaller body and no need to use no-button mods. 
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Edit^^^^^^^I know this maybe unpopular but I find both of them way too big (and I have very big hands). I wish both the iPhone and Android would hit my own personal sweet spot, 4 inches. The Nexus S was perfect. Another thing is a new iPhone is only released once a year while Android phones seem to be released monthly. So of course when they are released they dwarf everything around it. Also I agree that iOS devices will pass Android sooner or later now they are on all 3 major carriers. The only market iOS has a big issue with is budget users who can't or don't want to spend $200+ on a new phone.
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nate fisher posted:Edit^^^^^^^I know this maybe unpopular but I find both of them way too big (and I have very big hands). I wish both the iPhone and Android would hit my own personal sweet spot, 4 inches. The Nexus S was perfect. I think the HTC One S is perfect for you then? its a smaller 4" screen and has the same SoC as the One X does. I find the iPhone screen size to be a joke. I have pretty large hands [6'2"] and when I handled the Galaxy Nexus is the Verizon store I had no issue using 1 handed operation for all but the top left corner or bottom left corner [was holding it with my right hand]. tbh, i don't really ever use the phone in that way and I *can* touch the top left/bottom left with my thumb if I try, it's just a bit more difficult. My wife who has unusually small hands held it and was like 'yeah, it's big, but I like it big.' so, i think this is purely preference based. You will get some people with small hands who like big phones and some people with big hands who like small phones. I like that with android you have a choice of device. I wonder how man 'flagship' android phones sell compared to iphones across all carriers and OEM's. It would be interesting to see if you added up the flagship Motorola, HTC, Samsung and LG devices how many they sold in comparison to the iphone. Would it not be pretty close [with the iPhone in the lead]?
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tijag posted:I think the HTC One S is perfect for you then? its a smaller 4" screen and has the same SoC as the One X does. I find the iPhone screen size to be a joke. I have pretty large hands [6'2"] and when I handled the Galaxy Nexus is the Verizon store I had no issue using 1 handed operation for all but the top left corner or bottom left corner [was holding it with my right hand]. tbh, i don't really ever use the phone in that way and I *can* touch the top left/bottom left with my thumb if I try, it's just a bit more difficult. I love Android phones, but I'm done with Android because of the lack of a true eco-system to support the devices (this is where Apple shines). I agree about the iPhone screen. It took about a month to get use to the smaller iPhone screen (I came from EVO), but it wasn't too hard (the retina display did help). My thing about a bigger phone has nothing to do with my hands or the operation. It has to do with I find them just impractical, and I prefer my devices sleeker and smaller. Of all the Android phones I used (or played with) the Nexus S felt the best overall.
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