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Dogen: May 5, 2002; Bury my body down by the highwayside, so that my old evil spirit can get a Greyhound bus and ride

Rabid Koala posted:

I'm having the same problem. I had to switch over to Safari. I'm running off the Dev channel.

It's the new update that came out Monday, I think. Having the same problem as the day wears on, I just reboot by the end of the day and that seems to fix it. Also seems to be hogging a lot of memory. Hazards of the dev channel, I guess.

# ? Apr 25, 2012 16:44

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# ? May 14, 2024 06:54

Sir Sidney Poitier: Aug 14, 2006; My favourite actor

Using Outlook Mac 2011, does anyone know how I can get it to stop keeping the formatting of stuff I paste? If I copy text from a webpage and paste it into an email I'm composing, it keeps the formatting from the webpage and there's no way I can discard it - only apply my own formatting to it manually. I've had a look in the options but I can't seem to find one to stop it doing this.

# ? Apr 25, 2012 19:02

Bob Morales: Aug 18, 2006; ~~Just wear the fucking mask, Bob~~

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Anjow posted:

Using Outlook Mac 2011, does anyone know how I can get it to stop keeping the formatting of stuff I paste? If I copy text from a webpage and paste it into an email I'm composing, it keeps the formatting from the webpage and there's no way I can discard it - only apply my own formatting to it manually. I've had a look in the options but I can't seem to find one to stop it doing this.

There's no 'plain text' thing you can choose?

# ? Apr 25, 2012 19:05

actionjackson: Jan 12, 2003

Dogen posted:

It's the new update that came out Monday, I think. Having the same problem as the day wears on, I just reboot by the end of the day and that seems to fix it. Also seems to be hogging a lot of memory. Hazards of the dev channel, I guess.

Sorry, but what do you mean by dev channel? And it looks like this issue might relate to flash, could disabling that in the activity monitor help?

actionjackson fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Apr 25, 2012

# ? Apr 25, 2012 19:05

Bob Morales: Aug 18, 2006; ~~Just wear the fucking mask, Bob~~

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

actionjackson posted:

Sorry, but what do you mean by dev channel?

http://www.chromium.org/getting-involved/dev-channel

quote:

How do I choose which channel to use?

The release channels for chrome range from the most stable and tested (Stable channel) to completely untested and likely least stable (Canary channel). Note, you can run the Canary channel builds alongside any other channel, as they do not share profiles with other channels. This allows you to play with our latest code, while still keeping a tested version of Chrome around.

Stable channel: This channel has gotten the full testing and blessing of the Chrome test team, and is the best bet to avoid crashes and other issues. It's updated roughly every two-three weeks for minor releases, and every 6 weeks for major releases.
Beta channel: If you are interested in seeing what's next, with minimal risk, Beta channel is the place to be. It's updated every week roughly, with major updates coming ever six weeks, more than a month before the Stable channel will get them.
Dev channel: Want to see what's happening quickly, then you want the Dev channel. The Dev channel gets updated once or twice weekly, and it shows what we're working on right now. There's no lag between major versions, whatever code we've got, you will get. While this build does get tested, it is still subject to bugs, as we want people to see what's new as soon as possible.
Canary build: Canary builds are the bleeding edge. Released daily, this build has not been tested or used, it's released as soon as it's built. Because there's no guarantee that it will even run in some cases, it uses it's own profile and settings, and can be run side by side another Chrome channel. By default, it also reports crashes and usage statistics to Google (you can disable this on the download page).

# ? Apr 25, 2012 19:10

actionjackson: Jan 12, 2003

Bob Morales posted:

http://www.chromium.org/getting-involved/dev-channel

I just update whenever it tells me to, I'm not sure why I would get these releases that way.

Is there a way for me to revert to the last stable release?

# ? Apr 25, 2012 19:12

Accipiter: Jan 24, 2004; SINATRA.

Anjow posted:

Using Outlook Mac 2011, does anyone know how I can get it to stop keeping the formatting of stuff I paste? If I copy text from a webpage and paste it into an email I'm composing, it keeps the formatting from the webpage and there's no way I can discard it - only apply my own formatting to it manually. I've had a look in the options but I can't seem to find one to stop it doing this.

"Paste and match style".

# ? Apr 25, 2012 19:18

Instant Sunrise: Apr 12, 2007; The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.

Anjow posted:

Using Outlook Mac 2011, does anyone know how I can get it to stop keeping the formatting of stuff I paste? If I copy text from a webpage and paste it into an email I'm composing, it keeps the formatting from the webpage and there's no way I can discard it - only apply my own formatting to it manually. I've had a look in the options but I can't seem to find one to stop it doing this.

Command+Option+Shift+V

# ? Apr 25, 2012 19:27

Sir Sidney Poitier: Aug 14, 2006; My favourite actor

Instant Sunrise posted:

Command+Option+Shift+V

Thanks, that does it. It's a pain not to be able to have that as the default, but it'll have to do.

# ? Apr 25, 2012 20:04

Mikey-San: Nov 3, 2005; I'm Edith Head!

Anjow posted:

Thanks, that does it. It's a pain not to be able to have that as the default, but it'll have to do.

You can remap it in Keyboard prefs.

# ? Apr 25, 2012 20:32

The Macaroni: Dec 20, 2002; ...it does nothing.

Mikey-San posted:

You can remap it in Keyboard prefs.

I...I've never loved anyone the way I love you now. :monocle:

Where were you when I switched to Macs 4 years ago?!

# ? Apr 25, 2012 20:49

pipes!: Jul 10, 2001; Nap Ghost

If you use TextExpander, you can also map "%clipboard" to something to make a global paste without formatting shortcut.

# ? Apr 25, 2012 21:51

Sigma: Aug 24, 2003; ...; Grimey Drawer

With all the talk about how to find the model number of a Mac, I think this might help:

http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutid/index.html

# ? Apr 26, 2012 02:00

brap: Aug 23, 2004; Grimey Drawer

They actually say where it was manufactured? Does the app just put "China" in there and not even check anything? Because that would give the same result.

# ? Apr 26, 2012 02:13

Sigma: Aug 24, 2003; ...; Grimey Drawer

This is what I got:

Only registered members can see post attachments!

# ? Apr 26, 2012 02:17

explosivo: May 23, 2004; Fueled by Satan

I downloaded the older version of Tweetdeck that doesnt suck, it's amazing how much better version 0.38.2 is than 1.3. :sigh:

# ? Apr 26, 2012 05:17

Zenostein: Aug 16, 2008; Alhamdulillah-chan

explosivo posted:

I downloaded the older version of Tweetdeck that doesnt suck, it's amazing how much better version 0.38.2 is than 1.3.

Out of curiosity, what's wrong with it?

Also, is there some magical way for Preview to not store recent items? I'd rather people behind me not see whatever pictures I was looking at previously when I want to switch between open pdfs or something.

# ? Apr 26, 2012 05:24

explosivo: May 23, 2004; Fueled by Satan

Zenostein posted:

Out of curiosity, what's wrong with it?

It now has far fewer features than it did in this past version I'm using, TweetDeck was bought by Twitter and rebuilt the way it is now. It's much simpler in it's current iteration than it used to be, it seems like they streamlined it to make it more Mac/casual user friendly for the App Store release. I also hate change. So there's that.

Edit: I really hate the way Preview does that too. It hasn't gotten me in trouble yet, but I feel like it's possible :ohdear:

Edit 2: That is, if you're talking about how it opens up what you happened to be looking at last time you closed Preview before X-ing out of the window first..

explosivo fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Apr 26, 2012

# ? Apr 26, 2012 05:30

japtor: Oct 28, 2005

Zenostein posted:

Out of curiosity, what's wrong with it?

Also, is there some magical way for Preview to not store recent items? I'd rather people behind me not see whatever pictures I was looking at previously when I want to switch between open pdfs or something.

Try this: http://simon.heimlicher.com/articles/2011/07/26/disable-recent-items/

I think there might be a front end/prefpane for doing that type of thing but I don't know the name.

# ? Apr 26, 2012 05:31

Zenostein: Aug 16, 2008; Alhamdulillah-chan

explosivo posted:

It now has far fewer features than it did in this past version I'm using, TweetDeck was bought by Twitter and rebuilt the way it is now. It's much simpler in it's current iteration than it used to be, it seems like they streamlined it to make it more Mac/casual user friendly for the App Store release. I also hate change. So there's that.

Edit: I really hate the way Preview does that too. It hasn't gotten me in trouble yet, but I feel like it's possible

Edit 2: That is, if you're talking about how it opens up what you happened to be looking at last time you closed Preview before X-ing out of the window first..

I mean the single-app expose. At the bottom it shows your recent documents. Also I turned off application restore. Yet Preview restored the pdf I was reading. What the hell?

Also, japtor, unless you're meant to restart, that didn't work. Maybe Preview is one of those apps it doesn't work for, as mentioned.

I guess it's just an incentive to remember to clear that poo poo religiously. But that, plus the stupid "Locked"/duplicate thing are pissing me off about "new" Preview. I had to duplicate a pdf I'd opened from Safari so I could rotate the drat thing.

# ? Apr 26, 2012 05:44

japtor: Oct 28, 2005

Hrm just tested here and it works for the Dock menu and Expose (once you restart the Dock) but not the recent items list in the File menu. That seems to respect the System Pref-General-Recent Documents setting.

I know I've done it before, looking at some pref files it's another string you have to set...and figured it out. So yeah that previous link was for the Dock and Expose, this one will get the recent items menu (quit Preview first just in case):

defaults write com.apple.Preview NSRecentDocumentsLimit 0

# ? Apr 26, 2012 06:02

Zenostein: Aug 16, 2008; Alhamdulillah-chan

Oh, excellent! Thanks, now I can view all the porn, and not have to worry about someone sitting behind me in a classroom seeing thumbnails of things one shouldn't be looking at in class!

Now if only Preview would respect the "Don't reopen poo poo I had open when I quit things" option.

:negative:

Why, Apple?

Also, I think when I "killall Dock"-ed, it somehow briefly murdered finder/my background. Weird, that.

# ? Apr 26, 2012 06:19

coldplay chiptunes: Sep 17, 2010; by Lowtax

Zenostein posted:

I mean the single-app expose. At the bottom it shows your recent documents. Also I turned off application restore. Yet Preview restored the pdf I was reading. What the hell?

Whoa, that's weird as hell. Never knew it had application specific stuff like that. Usually that area's just used for minimized windows.

I wonder if there's other single-app expose stuff like that.

# ? Apr 26, 2012 06:33

Zenostein: Aug 16, 2008; Alhamdulillah-chan

I know SimpleText does that, too.

I'm not sure what else shows recents at the bottom, but it's really goddamn annoying.

I suspect it's just in applications that do the duplicate/locked thing.

# ? Apr 26, 2012 06:53

brap: Aug 23, 2004; Grimey Drawer

Zenostein posted:

Oh, excellent! Thanks, now I can view all the porn, and not have to worry about someone sitting behind me in a classroom seeing thumbnails of things one shouldn't be looking at in class!

Now if only Preview would respect the "Don't reopen poo poo I had open when I quit things" option.

Why, Apple?

Also, I think when I "killall Dock"-ed, it somehow briefly murdered finder/my background. Weird, that.

Closing an app isn't the same thing as closing its windows any more. Enjoy!

# ? Apr 26, 2012 08:02

curried lamb of God: Aug 31, 2001; we are all Marwinners

Probably a dumb question, but it's tough to find answers with Google: is there a way to use a program other than TextEdit when I run "open -e 'filename'" in the Terminal? I'd like to use Sublime Text 2 as my default.

On a side note, I'm getting into Ruby/RoR right now, and Sublime is pretty swank. Any other editors I should consider? I'm coding for fun, so I don't care about wasting time to try other stuff

# ? Apr 26, 2012 08:44

FiestaDePantalones: May 13, 2005; Kicked in the pants by TFLC

I have what is probably a pretty dumb question. I am trying to create a .zip file without compressing the actual contents (If I remember correctly, it's the 'store' option in Winzip). Winzip is not wanting to work correctly for me at all, and from what I can tell the archive tool OS X uses doesn't have that option at all. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Edit: VVVV
Keka it is! Thanks a lot.

FiestaDePantalones fucked around with this message at 11:57 on Apr 26, 2012

# ? Apr 26, 2012 11:43

japtor: Oct 28, 2005

Zenostein posted:

Oh, excellent! Thanks, now I can view all the porn, and not have to worry about someone sitting behind me in a classroom seeing thumbnails of things one shouldn't be looking at in class!

Now if only Preview would respect the "Don't reopen poo poo I had open when I quit things" option.

Why, Apple?

Also, I think when I "killall Dock"-ed, it somehow briefly murdered finder/my background. Weird, that.

I vaguely recall something called "RestoreMeNot" for that. (and the Dock does the desktops, Spaces, Mission Control/Expose, window minimization, app switcher, and some other things I forget...it sucks when the Dock ever gets stuck)

coldplay chiptunes posted:

Whoa, that's weird as hell. Never knew it had application specific stuff like that. Usually that area's just used for minimized windows.

I wonder if there's other single-app expose stuff like that.

It's new in Lion, I think it just works with anything that opens documents. Like I just opened BetterZip and it showed a bunch of old old archives there. Also if the app is on the dock you don't even have to open it since recent docs show up in the contextual menu, as well as if you do the show app windows expose while moused over it (or select Show Recents from the contextual menu).

surrender posted:

Probably a dumb question, but it's tough to find answers with Google: is there a way to use a program other than TextEdit when I run "open -e 'filename'" in the Terminal? I'd like to use Sublime Text 2 as my default.

On a side note, I'm getting into Ruby/RoR right now, and Sublime is pretty swank. Any other editors I should consider? I'm coding for fun, so I don't care about wasting time to try other stuff

I'm guessing it just uses the default app, so change the default app for whatever filetypes you're using. Select a file, get info, set the "open with" to Sublime, and click the Change All button.

Duesenjaeger posted:

I have what is probably a pretty dumb question. I am trying to create a .zip file without compressing the actual contents (If I remember correctly, it's the 'store' option in Winzip). Winzip is not wanting to work correctly for me at all, and from what I can tell the archive tool OS X uses doesn't have that option at all. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

The command line zip can do it, just check the help in there for the switches.

If you want a GUI I'm not sure, but there's apps out there. Keka might but I haven't had it installed for a while to check.

japtor fucked around with this message at 11:50 on Apr 26, 2012

# ? Apr 26, 2012 11:48

Heisenberg1276: Apr 13, 2007

surrender posted:

Probably a dumb question, but it's tough to find answers with Google: is there a way to use a program other than TextEdit when I run "open -e 'filename'" in the Terminal? I'd like to use Sublime Text 2 as my default.

On a side note, I'm getting into Ruby/RoR right now, and Sublime is pretty swank. Any other editors I should consider? I'm coding for fun, so I don't care about wasting time to try other stuff

You could do it with http://www.sublimetext.com/docs/2/osx_command_line.html which would give you "subl filename".

As for other editors, check out BBEdit or TextMate. My preference is Sublime Text though.

# ? Apr 26, 2012 12:29

Bob Morales: Aug 18, 2006; ~~Just wear the fucking mask, Bob~~

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

surrender posted:

Probably a dumb question, but it's tough to find answers with Google: is there a way to use a program other than TextEdit when I run "open -e 'filename'" in the Terminal? I'd like to use Sublime Text 2 as my default.

On a side note, I'm getting into Ruby/RoR right now, and Sublime is pretty swank. Any other editors I should consider? I'm coding for fun, so I don't care about wasting time to try other stuff

We're pretty much 50/50 TextMate/Sublime here with one person using vim

# ? Apr 26, 2012 13:26

ZeeBoi: Jan 17, 2001

My Time Machine only goes back to the beginning of March 2011, but I wanted to see if I could recover something from the end of February 2011. Is there any way at all to "undelete" stuff time machine has deleted from its backups? Like using a data recovery tool?

# ? Apr 26, 2012 15:42

Bob Morales: Aug 18, 2006; ~~Just wear the fucking mask, Bob~~

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Mac Mini Server, dual 500GB hard drives. 2 USB hard drives connected, one is for file storage (Promise SmartStore that we save all our files to and share) and the other is a 2TB USB hard drive (actually 2-3 in a rotate)

The Mini says the OS hard drive is basically out of space causing poo poo like Filemaker to crash and backups to not run. But it's nowhere near full. Basically the only thing on it is the OS and 2-3 versions of Filemaker.

It's like it's counting the USB drives against the drives capacity or something. It's been up 282 days so I think I'm going to reboot the fucker at 5:00. Anything else to try before that?

code:

hesserver:/ administrator$ pwd
/
hesserver:/ administrator$ df -h
Filesystem      Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/disk0s2   465Gi  465Gi   34Mi   100%    /
devfs          188Ki  188Ki    0Bi   100%    /dev
/dev/disk1s2   465Gi  427Mi  465Gi     1%    /Volumes/Macintosh HD2
/dev/disk3s3   1.8Ti  963Gi  900Gi    52%    /Volumes/SmartStor
map -hosts       0Bi    0Bi    0Bi   100%    /net
map auto_home    0Bi    0Bi    0Bi   100%    /home
map -fstab       0Bi    0Bi    0Bi   100%    /Network/Servers
/dev/disk2s2   1.8Ti  5.3Gi  1.8Ti     1%    /Volumes/BACKUP 1
hesserver:/ administrator$ sudo du -skh *
Password:
994M	Applications
1.7G	Developer
1.8M	FMS 11 Installer Log
8.0K	Groups
 15G	Library
3.0K	Network
8.0K	Shared Items
2.4G	System
4.0K	User Guides And Information
199M	Users
1.4T	Volumes
3.9M	bin
  0B	cores
du: Can't follow symlink cycle from dev/fd/3 to dev/fd/3

# ? Apr 26, 2012 15:57

echobucket: Aug 19, 2004

Bob Morales posted:

Mac Mini Server, dual 500GB hard drives. 2 USB hard drives connected, one is for file storage (Promise SmartStore that we save all our files to and share) and the other is a 2TB USB hard drive (actually 2-3 in a rotate)

The Mini says the OS hard drive is basically out of space causing poo poo like Filemaker to crash and backups to not run. But it's nowhere near full. Basically the only thing on it is the OS and 2-3 versions of Filemaker.

It's like it's counting the USB drives against the drives capacity or something. It's been up 282 days so I think I'm going to reboot the fucker at 5:00. Anything else to try before that?

Files hiding in a hidden directory off the root? Your du command is ignoring any hidden files.

Edit: Another thing to check is to look in /Volumes and see if there's any directories in there containing files that aren't associated with a USB drive.

Another thing that can happen is if your USB drive get unmounted and you have some service running that is dumping files into the directory for one of your USB drives, but it's not there then files will be "hidden" by the mounted drive being mounted over top of that directory.

echobucket fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Apr 26, 2012

# ? Apr 26, 2012 16:03

Bob Morales: Aug 18, 2006; ~~Just wear the fucking mask, Bob~~

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Forgot about the hidden files -

16K .DS_Store
155M .Spotlight-V100
0B .Trashes
0B .file
14M .fseventsd
256K .hotfiles.btree
0B .vol

Not much really there. One weird thing is that the mount point for that USB drive is "/Volumes/BACKUP 1" but the drive shows up in Finder as "/Volumes/BACKUP"

Finder shows the drive as empty but if I list the files in "/Volumes/BACKUP 1" in Terminal, files show up.

hesserver:/ administrator$ cd Volumes/
hesserver:Volumes administrator$ sudo du -skh .[!.]* *
Password:
du: .[!.]*: No such file or directory
442G BACKUP
4.5G BACKUP 1
472K Macintosh HD2
4.0K Server HD
962G SmartStor
0B ups

# ? Apr 26, 2012 16:18

Bob Morales: Aug 18, 2006; ~~Just wear the fucking mask, Bob~~

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

I might have fixed it, I deleted /Volumes/BACKUP, it's probably the hidden one you're talking about :

code:

hesserver:Volumes administrator$ sudo rm -rf BACKUP
hesserver:Volumes administrator$ df -h
Filesystem      Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/disk0s2   465Gi   24Gi  442Gi     6%    /
devfs          188Ki  188Ki    0Bi   100%    /dev
/dev/disk1s2   465Gi  427Mi  465Gi     1%    /Volumes/Macintosh HD2
/dev/disk3s3   1.8Ti  963Gi  900Gi    52%    /Volumes/SmartStor
map -hosts       0Bi    0Bi    0Bi   100%    /net
map auto_home    0Bi    0Bi    0Bi   100%    /home
map -fstab       0Bi    0Bi    0Bi   100%    /Network/Servers
/dev/disk2s2   1.8Ti  5.3Gi  1.8Ti     1%    /Volumes/BACKUP 1
hesserver:Volumes administrator$ ls -l
total 8
drwxrwxr-x   9 administrator  staff  374 Apr 26 10:34 BACKUP 1
drwxrwxr-x  10 administrator  staff  408 Sep 27  2010 Macintosh HD2
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root           admin    1 Jul 18  2011 Server HD -> /
drwxrwxr-x  24 administrator  staff  884 Apr 26 09:09 SmartStor
drwxr-xr-x+  3 root           admin  102 Nov 15  2010 ups

# ? Apr 26, 2012 16:25

some kinda jackal: Feb 25, 2003; �
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ZeeBoi posted:

My Time Machine only goes back to the beginning of March 2011, but I wanted to see if I could recover something from the end of February 2011. Is there any way at all to "undelete" stuff time machine has deleted from its backups? Like using a data recovery tool?

I was under the impression that time machine only deleted archives after it needed to reclaim space for new backups. So in my scenario your Feb 2011 backups have most likely been overwritten on disk already.

# ? Apr 26, 2012 16:42

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

Zenostein posted:

I mean the single-app expose. At the bottom it shows your recent documents.

With Preview open, go to File > Open Recent > Clear Menu. Now the next time you open Preview the single app expose list of files will be gone.

# ? Apr 26, 2012 17:29

ZeeBoi: Jan 17, 2001

Martytoof posted:

I was under the impression that time machine only deleted archives after it needed to reclaim space for new backups. So in my scenario your Feb 2011 backups have most likely been overwritten on disk already.

I just thought maybe if I used a recover app I could undelete something like you can do with your regular hard drive... :shobon:

# ? Apr 26, 2012 17:42

Diabolik900: Mar 28, 2007

ZeeBoi posted:

I just thought maybe if I used a recover app I could undelete something like you can do with your regular hard drive...

It is a regular hard drive, so theoretically you could use one of those tools. But just like any other hard drive, you can only recover something if the bits haven't been overwritten by other files. Time Machine generally only deletes stuff because it needs the space, so there is very little chance that those files haven't been overwritten.

# ? Apr 26, 2012 17:47

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# ? May 14, 2024 06:54

ZeeBoi: Jan 17, 2001

I'll give it a go regardless. It's one rar file, might be recoverable.

# ? Apr 26, 2012 18:24

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