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i dont get python and ruby folks i mean if its web stuff just use java? if its local stuff that has to go fast use c, or maybe c++? it boggles teh mind
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newreply.php posted:i dont get python and ruby folks i don't get java and c++ folks i mean if its web stuff just use python or ruby? if its local stuff that has to go fast use go, or maybe rust? it boggles teh mind
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Apr 26, 2012 00:09
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ok obviously that third line is ironic but the second one is real; i don't know why you'd use java for web stuff, from my limited exposure to it
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Apr 26, 2012 00:10
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newreply.php posted:i dont get python and ruby folks why would you use java though, its way worse than python (or ruby, from my limited experience). THey are more powerful and easier to use.
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Apr 26, 2012 00:10
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the best language is lisp and the only people who don't think so are those too dumb to understand lisp. c is also good b/c you can write lisp interpreters in it.
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Apr 26, 2012 00:14
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Police Academy III posted:the best language is lisp and the only people who don't think so are those too dumb to understand lisp. c is also good b/c you can write lisp interpreters in it. im sure lisp was all very well in the past but in the modern world we can have the best of both worlds. first-class functions and clean, logical syntax (c syntax). javascript is the answer, its what you always wanted from lisp but knew it was lacking, embrace it.
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Apr 26, 2012 00:19
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my stepdads beer posted:wp7 does this already hth the kin did, too
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Apr 26, 2012 00:26
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Ronald Raiden posted:why would you use java though, its way worse than python (or ruby, from my limited experience). THey are more powerful and easier to use.
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Apr 26, 2012 00:30
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Hammerite posted:im sure lisp was all very well in the past but in the modern world we can have the best of both worlds. first-class functions and clean, logical syntax (c syntax). javascript is the answer, its what you always wanted from lisp but knew it was lacking, embrace it. javascript isn't really c syntax
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Apr 26, 2012 00:30
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java is the best. python is trash
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Apr 26, 2012 00:31
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newreply.php posted:bc everything imaginable has been done in it and you just get to google some stuff, slack off for the rest of the day, and get paid? ppl put way too much effort into the type of programming that doesnt even pay that well right because nobody has made anything in python or ruby oh wait no there's tons of poo poo in python. and probably ruby I guess. And each of them have a package manager that comes with them too so its easy to add libs. I went back to java for a thing recently and was surprised by how much extra work I had to do, I was too used to python where poo poo is way easier.
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Apr 26, 2012 00:32
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gently caress SNEEP posted:i'm going to college to learn how to program bideo games (video games). i learned c in the fall and just finished my first c++ class. next semester I take another c++ class, a operating systems class (stuff like multi-threading), and a graphics class. i never have to learn java sounds like a great career move bro
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Apr 26, 2012 00:39
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JavaScript is pretty amazing cause you can use one language for both client side and server side. No more learning a dozen languages to make your web app. One is all you need.
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Apr 26, 2012 00:41
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Gentle Autist posted:if tef stays out of it it will evolve into a food thread pretty quickly sup  Police Academy III posted:also, if anyone's curious, here is a list of the real (ie non-syntactic) differences between python and ruby: python you can monkey patch built-in types using ctypes python has immutable strings python uses iterators for collection operations, ruby uses observes (blocks) ruby uses smalltalk style oo (message passing), python uses simula style oo (attribute lookup)
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Apr 26, 2012 00:42
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Anal Tributary posted:ok obviously that third line is ironic but the second one is real; i don't know why you'd use java for web stuff, from my limited exposure to it people don't write java, they write in xml to run on the jvm 
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Ronald Raiden posted:javascript isn't really c syntax quote:ﾟωﾟﾉ= /｀ｍ´）ﾉ ~┻━┻ //*´∇｀*/ ['_']; o=(ﾟｰﾟ) =_=3; c=(ﾟΘﾟ) =(ﾟｰﾟ)-(ﾟｰﾟ); (ﾟДﾟ) =(ﾟΘﾟ)= (o^_^o)/ (o^_^o);(ﾟДﾟ)={ﾟΘﾟ: '_' ,ﾟωﾟﾉ : ((ﾟωﾟﾉ==3) +'_') [ﾟΘﾟ] ,ﾟｰﾟﾉ :(ﾟωﾟﾉ+ '_')[o^_^o -(ﾟΘﾟ)] ,ﾟДﾟﾉ:((ﾟｰﾟ==3) +'_')[ﾟｰﾟ] }; (ﾟДﾟ) [ﾟΘﾟ] =((ﾟωﾟﾉ==3) +'_') [c^_^o];(ﾟДﾟ) ['c'] = ((ﾟДﾟ)+'_') [ (ﾟｰﾟ)+(ﾟｰﾟ)-(ﾟΘﾟ) ];(ﾟДﾟ) ['o'] = ((ﾟДﾟ)+'_') [ﾟΘﾟ];(ﾟoﾟ)=(ﾟДﾟ) ['c']+(ﾟДﾟ) ['o']+(ﾟωﾟﾉ +'_')[ﾟΘﾟ]+ ((ﾟωﾟﾉ==3) +'_') [ﾟｰﾟ] + ((ﾟДﾟ) +'_') [(ﾟｰﾟ)+(ﾟｰﾟ)]+ ((ﾟｰﾟ==3) +'_') [ﾟΘﾟ]+((ﾟｰﾟ==3) +'_') [(ﾟｰﾟ) - (ﾟΘﾟ)]+(ﾟДﾟ) ['c']+((ﾟДﾟ)+'_') [(ﾟｰﾟ)+(ﾟｰﾟ)]+ (ﾟДﾟ) ['o']+((ﾟｰﾟ==3) +'_') [ﾟΘﾟ];(ﾟДﾟ) ['_'] =(o^_^o) [ﾟoﾟ] [ﾟoﾟ];(ﾟεﾟ)=((ﾟｰﾟ==3) +'_') [ﾟΘﾟ]+ (ﾟДﾟ) .ﾟДﾟﾉ+((ﾟДﾟ)+'_') [(ﾟｰﾟ) + (ﾟｰﾟ)]+((ﾟｰﾟ==3) +'_') [o^_^o -ﾟΘﾟ]+((ﾟｰﾟ==3) +'_') [ﾟΘﾟ]+ (ﾟωﾟﾉ +'_') [ﾟΘﾟ]; (ﾟｰﾟ)+=(ﾟΘﾟ); (ﾟДﾟ)[ﾟεﾟ]='\\'; (ﾟДﾟ).ﾟΘﾟﾉ=(ﾟДﾟ+ ﾟｰﾟ)[o^_^o -(ﾟΘﾟ)];(oﾟｰﾟo)=(ﾟωﾟﾉ +'_')[c^_^o];(ﾟДﾟ) [ﾟoﾟ]='\"';(ﾟДﾟ) ['_'] ( (ﾟДﾟ) ['_'] (ﾟεﾟ+(ﾟДﾟ)[ﾟoﾟ]+ (ﾟДﾟ)[ﾟεﾟ]+(ﾟΘﾟ)+ (ﾟｰﾟ)+ (ﾟΘﾟ)+ (ﾟДﾟ)[ﾟεﾟ]+(ﾟΘﾟ)+ ((ﾟｰﾟ) + (ﾟΘﾟ))+ (ﾟｰﾟ)+ (ﾟДﾟ)[ﾟεﾟ]+(ﾟΘﾟ)+ (ﾟｰﾟ)+ ((ﾟｰﾟ) + (ﾟΘﾟ))+ (ﾟДﾟ)[ﾟεﾟ]+(ﾟΘﾟ)+ ((o^_^o) +(o^_^o))+ ((o^_^o) - (ﾟΘﾟ))+ (ﾟДﾟ)[ﾟεﾟ]+(ﾟΘﾟ)+ ((o^_^o) +(o^_^o))+ (ﾟｰﾟ)+ (ﾟДﾟ)[ﾟεﾟ]+((ﾟｰﾟ) + (ﾟΘﾟ))+ (c^_^o)+ (ﾟДﾟ)[ﾟεﾟ]+(ﾟｰﾟ)+ ((o^_^o) - (ﾟΘﾟ))+ (ﾟДﾟ)[ﾟεﾟ]+(ﾟΘﾟ)+ (ﾟｰﾟ)+ ((o^_^o) - (ﾟΘﾟ))+ (ﾟДﾟ)[ﾟεﾟ]+(ﾟΘﾟ)+ ((o^_^o) +(o^_^o))+ ((ﾟｰﾟ) + (ﾟΘﾟ))+ (ﾟДﾟ)[ﾟεﾟ]+(ﾟΘﾟ)+ ((o^_^o) +(o^_^o))+ (ﾟｰﾟ)+ (ﾟДﾟ)[ﾟεﾟ]+(ﾟΘﾟ)+ ((o^_^o) +(o^_^o))+ (ﾟｰﾟ)+ (ﾟДﾟ)[ﾟεﾟ]+(ﾟΘﾟ)+ ((o^_^o) +(o^_^o))+ (o^_^o)+ (ﾟДﾟ)[ﾟεﾟ]+(ﾟｰﾟ)+ ((o^_^o) - (ﾟΘﾟ))+ (ﾟДﾟ)[ﾟεﾟ]+((ﾟｰﾟ) + (ﾟΘﾟ))+ (ﾟΘﾟ)+ (ﾟДﾟ)[ﾟoﾟ]) (ﾟΘﾟ)) ('_');
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Apr 26, 2012 00:47
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tef, i unironically like your effort posts, even if they make me feel dumb thank you for posting them 
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Apr 26, 2012 00:53
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is there a joke language based on the table flippin dude yet
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Apr 26, 2012 01:02
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Ronald Raiden posted:javascript isn't really c syntax It has all the best parts of c syntax tho.
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Apr 26, 2012 01:09
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i went to a meetup thing for python last night, the two keynotes were both a little boring but one thing i took from it is that i need to learn c
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Apr 26, 2012 01:16
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tef posted:python you can monkey patch built-in types using ctypes please explain, this sounds wonderfully hacky
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Apr 26, 2012 01:17
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tinselt0wn posted:JavaScript is pretty amazing cause you can use one language for both client side and server side. No more learning a dozen languages to make your web app. One is all you need. this guy right here speaks the truth.
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Apr 26, 2012 01:17
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waah waah i have to use two languages
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Apr 26, 2012 01:20
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OBAMA BIN LAUGHIN posted:python is a really cool language
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Apr 26, 2012 01:24
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JawnV6 posted:is there a joke language based on the table flippin dude yet gj not reading tefs post, dude
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Apr 26, 2012 01:26
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tef posted:yes this is really javascript 
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Apr 26, 2012 01:37
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JawnV6 posted:is there a joke language based on the table flippin dude yet raise exception
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Apr 26, 2012 01:37
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Ronald Raiden posted:right because nobody has made anything in python or ruby oh wait no there's tons of poo poo in python. and probably ruby I guess. And each of them have a package manager that comes with them too so its easy to add libs. I went back to java for a thing recently and was surprised by how much extra work I had to do, I was too used to python where poo poo is way easier. lol no. java is like 10000x easier. maven is the best build/dependency management tool there is.
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Apr 26, 2012 01:40
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yeah but java and ruby and python all suck for that because you have to screw around with dependency management in the first place. in php all you have to do is include what you need
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Apr 26, 2012 01:45
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i dont think the subset of valid js that consists of only "table flip dudes" is gonna be enough to program in
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Hammerite posted:im sure lisp was all very well in the past but in the modern world we can have the best of both worlds. first-class functions and clean, logical syntax (c syntax). javascript is the answer, its what you always wanted from lisp but knew it was lacking, embrace it. lisp syntax is as clean and logical (other than maybe only having prefix operators and Lots of Insidiously Silly Parentheses) as you can get because there's very little of it.
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Apr 26, 2012 01:46
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There Will Be Penalty posted:lisp syntax is as clean and logical (other than maybe only having prefix operators and Lots of Insidiously Silly Parentheses) as you can get because there's very little of it. lisp is also awesome because lisp macros are awesome
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Sulk posted:
isnt that site based on some stupid metric like "total sloc committed to sourceforge in each language" or w/e iirc
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Apr 26, 2012 01:50
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OBAMA BIN LAUGHIN posted:python is a really cool language im learning it for splunk welp cya
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Apr 26, 2012 01:50
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trex eaterofcadrs posted:lisp is also awesome because lisp macros are awesome agreed, idiot cadr eater.
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tinselt0wn posted:JavaScript is pretty amazing cause you can use one language for both client side and server side. No more learning a dozen languages to make your web app. One is all you need. you can do this with clojure and actually use a lisp for real programs, it's pretty cool i highly recommend it also gently caress json, s-expressions 4ever
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There Will Be Penalty posted:agreed, idiot cadr eater. wel i never
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nukethewhales posted:tef, i unironically like your effort posts, even if they make me feel dumb i'm actually a gimmick  no i'm just a raging autist
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