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Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010


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Fintilgin posted:

Now I'm imagining an Obsidian kickstarter where they have a video of some of the tabletop sessions, Double Fine documentary style.

Kickstarter idea: New documentary in which consists entirely of Rope Kid, Chris Avellone, and a bunch of other people from Obsidian playing a tabletop RPG.

I'd donate.

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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

foobat posted:

b) Get annoyed that Caesar's legion no longer shun me and think I'm really swell and after chatting to Caesar. I left and proceeded to kill as many of them as possible just to regain my "shunned" status. I put effort into that dammit.

The key to maximize getting back in the Legion's bad books is to have Boone as your constant companion. You don't have to make the slightest effort, he'll handle getting you shunned all by himself.

Niggard of Oz
Jan 24, 2011

It's a NIGGER joke,
You Faggot's!

foobat posted:

So I've just got to the point where the NCR and Legion forgive me for whatever past brutal murders and atrocities I've committed against them. This only led me to

a) Regret not having brutally murdered and killed all NCR for the hell of it
b) Get annoyed that Caesar's legion no longer shun me and think I'm really swell and after chatting to Caesar. I left and proceeded to kill as many of them as possible just to regain my "shunned" status. I put effort into that dammit.

I did think it was cool that I could basically switch sides far in the game but It really gave me "oh yeah, i'm just playing a game" vibes (BAW MY IMMERSION).

I guess I did get some satisfaction out of Caesar rattling off about all his plans i foiled and how he "would of gotten away with it if it wasn't for that damned courier".

The Legion only forgave me for about five steps, because that's how many that Alerion guy took before I blew his head off outside of The Tops. He told me how they were willing to forgive me for killing that Vulpes guy in Nipton, and I actually said out loud while playing, "Well, do you forgive me for this?" then exploded his head with That Gun.

I didn't even approach the dudes in Nipton. I saw what was going down, set up a mine field between two houses, and proceeded to blast mofos while they rushed me and got their legs blown up.

rope kid
Feb 3, 2001

Warte nur! Balde
Ruhest du auch.

eating only apples posted:

You create the best characters. What about Hanlon, where did he come from?
I got the idea for Hanlon from Backdraft, actually. Scott Glenn's character made me think that maybe, among all of the veteran high-ranking NCR military figures, there was someone who was so fed up with how things were going that he did something drastic and dangerous to change things.

The story he tells about Rattletail, boiled down, is him saying, "The best thing I've ever done is trick people into leaving a place they had no business being."

EDIT: Also, some people have gotten mixed up about this: I didn't create Kimball (John Gonzalez did), but I wrote Kimball's speech. I created the Survivalist, but John Gonzalez wrote all of the Survivalist's logs.

rope kid fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Apr 29, 2012

Niggard of Oz
Jan 24, 2011

It's a NIGGER joke,
You Faggot's!
Oh, and the problem I was having with the game locking up went away when I cleared my cache and Xbox live installed a patch that was actually visible in storage. The patch that's on the Ultimate Edition disc gets installed to the system cache. I'm not sure if it's a different patch or having the thing installed as if it's DL content made the difference.

foobat
Nov 26, 2008
I switched out Boone as I'd finished his side story as was doing Veronica's. I should take a leaf out of Niggard of Oz's book drop the whole completion-ist ("i'll go see him because it's an option in the game!") thing and just kill whoever I drat please instead

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

rope kid posted:

EDIT: Also, some people have gotten mixed up about this: I didn't create Kimball (John Gonzalez did), but I wrote Kimball's speech. I created the Survivalist, but John Gonzalez wrote all of the Survivalist's logs.

Tell John Gonzalez that some guy from the Internet who doesn't know him thinks he is the bees knees, then.

Niggard of Oz
Jan 24, 2011

It's a NIGGER joke,
You Faggot's!

foobat posted:

I switched out Boone as I'd finished his side story as was doing Veronica's. I should take a leaf out of Niggard of Oz's book drop the whole completion-ist ("i'll go see him because it's an option in the game!") thing and just kill whoever I drat please instead


I played for 30 hours like that then restarted when I realised this game actually provided oppurtunities to play out different characters with different results. Right now I'm playing as a cross between Dirty Harry and Charles Bronson's character in Death Wish. My character's name is Clint Bronson because I'm imaginitive. I didn't even repair ED-E even though my skill was high enough because CB knows how to maintain his guns, but he don't know poo poo about robots.

When I got to Boulder City I didn't even talk to the Kahns, I just blasted them. And when I got to New Vegas I blasted Benny and his four body guards right there on the casino floor. I wasn't even going to take the Chip because as far as I knew at that time it was just junk like the other five items, but then I figured I'd have to look at a headless corpse every time I went to gamble in the Tops if I didn't, so I took it. I blew off Mr. House completely. "Get a move on, the boss wants to see you." Clint was like, "Let's get one thing straight, robot. I don't have a boss."

What's cool is I am poor as gently caress. I spent all my caps on a hunting shotgun and mods and actually HAD a reason to go work for Crimson Caravans. Then I plan on doing Honest Harts because I'm broke, but have shotgun will travel.

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

foobat posted:

I did think it was cool that I could basically switch sides far in the game but It really gave me "oh yeah, i'm just playing a game" vibes (BAW MY IMMERSION).

To be fair, his past has shown that if you slaughter enough of Caesar's men without dying he'll be impressed enough to offer you a job (Lanius) and the NCR is so desperate for a shot at taking over Vegas that it's no surprise they'll cut a deal with the only person to ever get close to House (their biggest obstacle after the Legion).

I love that House doesn't have any way of getting back in his good graces, though. As Benny shows, cross him once and he'll never trust you again.


I particularly enjoyed his obsession with Andale, the joke cannibal town from Fallout 3, somehow being a leftist attack on conservatives or something?

Cousin Todd
Jul 3, 2007
Grimey Drawer

Wolfsheim posted:

To be fair, his past has shown that if you slaughter enough of Caesar's men without dying he'll be impressed enough to offer you a job (Lanius) and the NCR is so desperate for a shot at taking over Vegas that it's no surprise they'll cut a deal with the only person to ever get close to House (their biggest obstacle after the Legion).

If you're caesar, that's a pretty decent position to take. Murdering a couple hundred of your grunts is the perfect job interview.

I never could fathom the whole deal where the NCR is afraid to tackle house. There are only a couple dozen robots. A handful of snipers could take out all the outdoor robots since the fuckers can't climb, and a dozen decently armed men could take out all the robots inside with minimal casualties. Hell, I start most of my new games by murdering victor in the street.

Those robots just rub me the wrong way and I have the tendency to just blast them on sight. I'm probably one of the few people who prevents that guy from being killed at the gate.

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."

Wolfsheim posted:

I particularly enjoyed his obsession with Andale, the joke cannibal town from Fallout 3, somehow being a leftist attack on conservatives or something?

It's an indictment of the Nuclear Family, which is painted as ostensibly wholesome, but with a basement full of butchered remains. Because they are cannibals. He might be onto something...Bethesda is known for their subtleties and symbolism, and generally being thoughtful about their setpieces.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


It's showing how truly terrible the suburbs of DC really are.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
"Apparently friendly and healthy environment which is actually hiding a dark and horrible secret" is the oldest goddamned story in the book so I'm curious as to what other works of fiction that guy thinks are liberal propaganda.

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

Cream-of-Plenty posted:

It's an indictment of the Nuclear Family, which is painted as ostensibly wholesome, but with a basement full of butchered remains. Because they are cannibals. He might be onto something...Bethesda is known for their subtleties and symbolism, and generally being thoughtful about their setpieces.

But its not, like, a nuclear family who would've been normal if they hadn't been cannibals. It was a nuclear family pretending they were living in the pre-war 50's and having "Friendliest City in America" contests with no one else while living next to a super mutant death camp. Its the same joke as the woman who lives on the bridge but holds bake sales or whatever. Even if he was really reading into it and giving Bethesda the benefit of the doubt the scenario is just totally absurd.

Kharmakazy posted:

If you're caesar, that's a pretty decent position to take. Murdering a couple hundred of your grunts is the perfect job interview.

I never could fathom the whole deal where the NCR is afraid to tackle house. There are only a couple dozen robots. A handful of snipers could take out all the outdoor robots since the fuckers can't climb, and a dozen decently armed men could take out all the robots inside with minimal casualties. Hell, I start most of my new games by murdering victor in the street.

Those robots just rub me the wrong way and I have the tendency to just blast them on sight. I'm probably one of the few people who prevents that guy from being killed at the gate.

He has an army of Securitrons the same way the NCR's two biggest bases consist of thirty guys and a couple officers; engine limitations. He even talks about how when he began recruiting the Chairmen, he sent like twenty securitrons at once to cow them into submission, which is more than are even seen active in the game at any point. I think in dialogue he talks about having hundreds of them on and around the Strip proper, which when you add in the three different bands of crafty tribals he's armed with submachine guns, is probably just enough to make the NCR play nice while the threat of the Legion looms overhead.

And that's of course ignoring the thousands hidden under the Fort.

Though typing that out brought up something else that annoyed me in New Vegas; of all the factions in the game, the Three Families all tie into the main plot no matter what pat you take, yet they're the only ones who get no ending slides and no hint at what happens to them. The Omertas even launch a terrorist attack on the NCR Embassy during the Battle of Hoover Dam if you assist them (though in House's questline you can help them then tell House what they're up to so his Securitrons can roll in and kill them all with a high enough speech check) and it seems like they just should've had some kind of resolution. I mean, even the goddamned Misfits at Camp Golf get an ending slide.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Pope Guilty posted:

"Apparently friendly and healthy environment which is actually hiding a dark and horrible secret" is the oldest goddamned story in the book so I'm curious as to what other works of fiction that guy thinks are liberal propaganda.

Hansel & Gretel is anti-Social Security propaganda.

Nucular Carmul
Jan 26, 2005

Melongenidae incantatrix

RandolphCarter posted:

Try making the MFC Clusters, they're loving amazing.

I did as you suggested, and decided their inaugural usage should be against Benny. Talked Swank into giving my poo poo back, but didn't have him send Benny to his room. I didn't even get into talking range of Benny, I went to the balcony above and lobbed my new toy. I don't think I have to describe what happened next, and I'm not sure I can describe the joy the lifted my heart :shepface:

Niggard of Oz
Jan 24, 2011

It's a NIGGER joke,
You Faggot's!
Wild Wasteland should have added a vendor named Hank, who only sells Flamer Fuel and Flamer accessories (mods).

Police Automaton
Mar 17, 2009
"You are standing in a thread. Someone has made an insightful post."
LOOK AT insightful post
"It's a pretty good post."
HATE post
"I don't understand"
SHIT ON post
"You shit on the post. Why."

loving liberals and obama ruining my videogames. :argh:

In the changelog of that bugfix compilation thingie you can also find the gem of the author "correcting" the "living suits" in OWB being female as their occupants were all trained soldiers. Thank god they fixed that glaring mistake.

Niggard of Oz
Jan 24, 2011

It's a NIGGER joke,
You Faggot's!
That song on the Mysterious Broadcast station, I know I've heard it somewhere before and it has been bugging me for days. I decided to finally cheat and look it up and come to find out it's an original created for the game. But then it finally hit where I had heard it before, well not that exact song obviously, but drat are portions of it similar and it conveys the same creepy feeling. I'm talking about the children's song in Samuel Fuller's The Naked Kiss, the scene where Constance Towers discovers her fiance is a pedophile.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXmDhRvxD0Q&feature=relmfu at 5:30.

Was this the inspiration for that song?

Frog
May 25, 2006
Ribbit

This dude just seems like a walking victim complex. I wonder what his 'ideal' Fallout universe would be...

Tubgirl Cosplay
Jan 10, 2011

by Ion Helmet
I'm picturing The Turner Diaries: The Game

Although tbh a Fallout that wasn't so heavy-handed on the radical leftist anti-genocide, anti-cannibalism, women-are-people agenda would be pretty great. You play Frank Horrigan and also there's no wasteland because America totally won the nuclear war and never got blown up.

Tubgirl Cosplay fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Apr 30, 2012

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Kharmakazy posted:

If you're caesar, that's a pretty decent position to take. Murdering a couple hundred of your grunts is the perfect job interview.

I never could fathom the whole deal where the NCR is afraid to tackle house. There are only a couple dozen robots. A handful of snipers could take out all the outdoor robots since the fuckers can't climb, and a dozen decently armed men could take out all the robots inside with minimal casualties. Hell, I start most of my new games by murdering victor in the street.

Those robots just rub me the wrong way and I have the tendency to just blast them on sight. I'm probably one of the few people who prevents that guy from being killed at the gate.

Bearing in mind the engine limitations Wolfsheim mentioned, I'm pretty sure you can ask someone this exact question (why doesn't NCR just take House down?) at some point in the game. Their response is "Yeah, the NCR totally could beat House, but it would be a drawn-out fight that would seriously hurt their forces in the region and leave them wide open to attack by the Legion," which makes a lot of sense when you bear in mind that House has a lot of securitrons (plus more inside the Lucky 38) plus the allied tribals. Add in the fear factor that no one actually knows what's inside the Lucky 38. For all the NCR know (and House may well have been feeding them misinformation along these lines), he could have ten thousand war robots racked up in there, and no one would be any the wiser. As it turns out, those robots are actually somewhere else, but the NCR don't know that.

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

Y'know, cash registers with pre-war money were all well and good, but pre-war registers full of bottlecaps always strained believably until today when next to our seat at a BBQ restaurant, my wife mashed a button on an old antique cash register and this happened:

LividLiquid fucked around with this message at 09:41 on May 1, 2012

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

LividLiquid posted:

Y'know, cash registers with pre-war money were all well and good, but pre-war registers full of bottlecaps always strained believably until today when next to our seat at a BBQ restaurant, my wife mashed a button on an old antique cash register and this happened:



eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Whoops, sorry, instinct kicked in.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Lord Lambeth posted:

It's showing how truly terrible the suburbs of DC really are.

This I can absolutely believe.

I just wish Fallout 3 had included a nod to the greatest place in the entire DC area.

Momomo
Dec 26, 2009

Dont judge me, I design your manhole
So I never played Fallout 3, and people have mentioned New Vegas has a few real life locations on the map, is 3 the same in this way? I lived in DC a large chunk of my life, so it'd be cool to see what they did with the area.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Momomo posted:

So I never played Fallout 3, and people have mentioned New Vegas has a few real life locations on the map, is 3 the same in this way? I lived in DC a large chunk of my life, so it'd be cool to see what they did with the area.

Not as many, sadly. Mostly the touristy landmarks like the Washington Monument.

Tubgirl Cosplay
Jan 10, 2011

by Ion Helmet

Momomo posted:

So I never played Fallout 3, and people have mentioned New Vegas has a few real life locations on the map, is 3 the same in this way? I lived in DC a large chunk of my life, so it'd be cool to see what they did with the area.

Washington Monument, Capitol Building, Jefferson Memorial, (I think?) Lincoln. Oh and Bethesda but it doesn't have much of anything to do with actual Bethesda. There's not really any local flavor or anything you'd recognize of the city that some Indonesian kid who saw a TV show once wouldn't.

They did put a little effort into making the metro stations look right, which got me all excited until I realized beyond the texture map on the terminals they're just lazy generic dungeon levels.

Fintilgin
Sep 29, 2004

Fintilgin sweeps!
I did think it was borderline criminal that they didn't have some sort of interesting set piece or sequence involving the White House. Nope, it's just a crater. There should have been a shoot out in the Oval Office, or at the very least, let your character sit at the President's desk.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


I remember people freaking out over the ad campaign. Not everyone liked seeing a bunch of bombed out capitol buildings on their way to work I guess.

Naky
May 30, 2001

Resident Crackhead

Lord Lambeth posted:

I remember people freaking out over the ad campaign. Not everyone liked seeing a bunch of bombed out capitol buildings on their way to work I guess.

No such thing as bad marketing. People will remember it and talk about it, regardless of whether or not they will buy it.

Cousin Todd
Jul 3, 2007
Grimey Drawer

Fintilgin posted:

I did think it was borderline criminal that they didn't have some sort of interesting set piece or sequence involving the White House. Nope, it's just a crater. There should have been a shoot out in the Oval Office, or at the very least, let your character sit at the President's desk.

In fairness, the white house is a primary target if you are planning to blow up the US. And if Jungle Strike has taught me anything, it's fun too!

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
It makes sense that in the event of a nuclear war, the White House would be a primary target, but it removes a great opportunity for something awesome to happen.

Momomo
Dec 26, 2009

Dont judge me, I design your manhole
I imagine even if the White House was bombed, they'd build something in its place anyway.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Momomo posted:

I imagine even if the White House was bombed, they'd build something in its place anyway.

Once society reestablishes itself and the radiation goes away, sure, but FO3 is long before those things happen.

doomfunk
Feb 29, 2008

oh come on was that really necessary
all over my fine carpet!!

Tubgirl Cosplay posted:

Washington Monument, Capitol Building, Jefferson Memorial, (I think?) Lincoln. Oh and Bethesda but it doesn't have much of anything to do with actual Bethesda. There's not really any local flavor or anything you'd recognize of the city that some Indonesian kid who saw a TV show once wouldn't.

They did put a little effort into making the metro stations look right, which got me all excited until I realized beyond the texture map on the terminals they're just lazy generic dungeon levels.

Their HQ's in the Rockville/Germantown/Gaithersburg area, isn't it? If I cared about FO3 now that New Vegas exists I'd probably try to find my way to the Five Guys they're parked across from, personally. I bet that's in. The building, I mean, it wouldn't be called a Five Guys obviously.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

Lord Lambeth posted:

I remember people freaking out over the ad campaign. Not everyone liked seeing a bunch of bombed out capitol buildings on their way to work I guess.

And a few people used it as an example of the stunning materials terrorists were creating nowadays.

polar bear
Apr 19, 2006
I love this game but getting stuck at the loading screen constantly is really killing it for me. I can't load Freeside at all. I've tried starting a new game and loading my old save. I've had to ctrl-alt-del so many times I'm about ready to just give up.

I know this question has been asked a hundred times before. What are you guys doing to get past this? I'm playing without any mods.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

polar bear posted:

I love this game but getting stuck at the loading screen constantly is really killing it for me. I can't load Freeside at all. I've tried starting a new game and loading my old save. I've had to ctrl-alt-del so many times I'm about ready to just give up.

I know this question has been asked a hundred times before. What are you guys doing to get past this? I'm playing without any mods.

I've never had this issue. Have you tried a reinstall?

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graynull
Dec 2, 2005

Did I misread all the signs?

polar bear posted:

I love this game but getting stuck at the loading screen constantly is really killing it for me. I can't load Freeside at all. I've tried starting a new game and loading my old save. I've had to ctrl-alt-del so many times I'm about ready to just give up.

I know this question has been asked a hundred times before. What are you guys doing to get past this? I'm playing without any mods.

Have you tried verifying your game cache? Perhaps something got corrupted. Give that a try first.

Library->Right-click NV->Properties->Local Data if my memory is correct.

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