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me your dad
Jul 25, 2006

Thanks for the awesome reply. I'll dig into what you suggested.

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Grawl
Aug 28, 2008

Do the D.A.N.C.E
1234, fight!
Stick to the B.E.A.T
Get ready to ignite
You were such a P.Y.T
Catching all the lights
Just easy as A.B.C
That's how we make it right
Where to start with Aphex Twin? I only dig Windowlicker whenever I try it.

Stravinsky
May 31, 2011

beard trends posted:

Merzbow?

If you are not that into noise music or just starting to get into it, I would go with Merzbeat. Its less harsh noise and has more identifiable sounds.

Following that, try the Merzbuddha,Merzbear and Merzbird albums.

Grawl posted:

Where to start with Aphex Twin? I only dig Windowlicker whenever I try it.

Aphex Twin really changes his sound on each album. I would recommend just listening to each of his releases in chronological order and see how he morphs and changes through out time.

Or you could just check out the Aphex megathread and look at the op. (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3392076) Beepstreet did a really good job of picking out the stand out tracks that are indicative of the general sound of each album as a whole.

Stravinsky fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Apr 25, 2012

nuts_rice
Sep 6, 2010

Ohhh Yog Soggoth, be my teenage dream boat ;)
How do I get my grove on to Kraftwerk? As a fan of electronic music, I got to honor the pioneers.

on the computer
Jan 4, 2012

I want to get into The Cure, but their discography is so daunting. Absolutely love The Caterpillar, Close To Me and The Love Cats, but some of their other songs I've listened to are a bit...boring.

hatelull
Oct 29, 2004

The Cure ..

The tracks you mention are some of Smith's "new wavey" period, so if you're looking for an LP you might start with Head on the Door, or The Walk EP. From there, you can move forward to Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me if want some bright lights/big city style sounds. "Just Like Heaven", "Why Can't I Be You?", and "Hot Hot Hot" were 80's alternative staples. If you want the gothier stuff, check out either the early Dark Trilogy (Seventeen Seconds, Faith, Pornography) or the pretty much brilliant Disintegration. However, if a full album sort of scares you then you can easily pick up Standing on the Beach, which features a smashing collection of the early singles that encompasses a lot of what you might like. Beyond Disintegration your mileage will definitely vary.

Ikari Worrier
Jul 23, 2004


Dinosaur Gum

nuts_rice posted:

How do I get my grove on to Kraftwerk? As a fan of electronic music, I got to honor the pioneers.

It's actually fairly hard to choose one specific starting point since nearly everything they released was great (the only real exceptions being Electric Cafe/Techno Pop and The Mix). While their masterpiece is Trans-Europe Express, I'd say that a better starting point might be either The Man Machine or Computer World. Really, though, everything they released from Autobahn through Computer World is a must-listen (and their three pre-Autobahn albums, along with Tour de France and their live album Minimum-Maximum, are all highly worth listening to as well).

JAMOOOL
Oct 18, 2004

:qq: I LOVE TWO AND HALF MEN!! YOU 20 SOMETHINGS ARE JUST TOO CYNICAL TO UNDERSTAND IT!!:qq:

nuts_rice posted:

How do I get my grove on to Kraftwerk? As a fan of electronic music, I got to honor the pioneers.

I agree with the above that everything from Autobahn to Computer World is pretty much essential, but if you just want to get aquainted with them on a high level and hear all the important tunes in a form that sounds incredibly modern, pick up the recent live Minimum-Maximum 2 disc set. It's seriously great and my favorite KW release.

Epi Lepi
Oct 29, 2009

You can hear the voice
Telling you to Love
It's the voice of MK Ultra
And you're doing what it wants

Lacklustre Hero posted:

I want to get into The Cure, but their discography is so daunting. Absolutely love The Caterpillar, Close To Me and The Love Cats, but some of their other songs I've listened to are a bit...boring.

This Greatest Hits; http://www.amazon.com/The-Cure-Greatest-Hits/dp/B00005R09Z/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1335381566&sr=8-1; that was released in 2001 is how I got into the Cure. I can't really argue with anything that hatelull said except that you might not want to bother with the Dark Trilogy at first. One other comment, Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me, is a great album, but it's really loving long and all over the place stylistically.

Transistor Rhythm
Feb 16, 2011

If setting the Sustain Level in the ENV to around 7, you can obtain a howling sound.

I read an interesting interview with Spencer Clark of the Skaters. James Ferraro, the other Skater, was interesting too.

Where do I start with these guys as the Skaters, out of their bazillion tapes, and then out of their bazillion side projects?

Rubber Biscuit
Jan 21, 2007

Yeah, I was in the shit.
Where do I start with detroit techno? Any compilations I should be checking out?

28 Gun Bad Boy
Nov 5, 2009

Never been to Belgium

Rubber Biscuit posted:

Where do I start with detroit techno? Any compilations I should be checking out?

Not exactly the easiest of things since the Detroit stuff has been going for 25+ years now, with many many many different artists, styles and takes on it about.

But you could go right back to the start and check out the compilation which really shone the light on the Detroit scene over here in the UK way back when, and that's the classic Techno! The New Dance Sound Of Detroit.

Now sadly it is long out of print, but it's not terribly hard to dig a copy up (at least in the UK). Virgin put out a second volume as well a year or so later but I've never heard that before.

Ras Het
May 23, 2007

when I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child - but now I am a man.

Rubber Biscuit posted:

Where do I start with detroit techno? Any compilations I should be checking out?

That comp 28GBB mentioned is poo poo, go for retrospectives instead: Juan Atkins' 20 Years Metroplex, Derrick May's Innovator, Shake Shakir's Frictionalism are probably my favourites. For mixes, Robert Hood's Fabric mix is massif, as are Jeff Mill's Live at the Liquid Room and DJ Rolando's Aztek Mystic Mix.

28 Gun Bad Boy
Nov 5, 2009

Never been to Belgium

Ras Het posted:

That comp 28GBB mentioned is poo poo, go for retrospectives instead: Juan Atkins' 20 Years Metroplex, Derrick May's Innovator, Shake Shakir's Frictionalism are probably my favourites. For mixes, Robert Hood's Fabric mix is massif, as are Jeff Mill's Live at the Liquid Room and DJ Rolando's Aztek Mystic Mix.

Boo! I always knew you couldn't appreciate a good ol' fashioned late 80s style megamix!

And just to annoy I'll throw out two other general old comps instead of retrospectives (though the ones mentioned above are really good, especially the Metroplex one). Both feature a bundle of classic tracks. First up is Retro Techno - Detroit Definitive which was put out by Network Records way back when and actually got a repress a few years ago. If you ask me it's worth it just for Just Want Another Chance.

And Reflective Records put out The Deepest Shade Of Techno Volume 1 and Volume 2, featuring mostly Detroit artists with a handful of UK folks in there for kicks.

Actually speaking of retrospectives Clone recently issued the first volume of their Drexciya retrospective - Journey Of The Deep Sea Dweller. A definite pick up.

Popcorn
May 25, 2004

You're both fuckin' banned!
I love the track Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence by Ryuchi Sakamoto. What else should I listen to?

vvvvv thanx coolguys!!

Popcorn fucked around with this message at 21:43 on May 4, 2012

Fors Yard
Feb 15, 2008

Aside from getting shot in the head, David, what have you done with yourself?

Popcorn posted:

I love the track Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence by Ryuchi Sakamoto. What else should I listen to?

I've thought most of Michita's music has a similar feel. This is more based on the live performance of Mr. Lawrence, as this is more traditional instrumentation. Similar compositions, but it is hip hop... incredibly beautiful hip hop.

Yukar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw9M47V71aU

Allegro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwiUhC3PGXg

DJ Okawari is also similar:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGvIzFRcRMA

Also, if you haven't listened to Yellow Magic Orchestra. Not quite similar, but something Sakamoto was involved with.

JAMOOOL
Oct 18, 2004

:qq: I LOVE TWO AND HALF MEN!! YOU 20 SOMETHINGS ARE JUST TOO CYNICAL TO UNDERSTAND IT!!:qq:
yes, YMO is great and should be checked out by everyone, but as far as Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence goes - that whole soundtrack is pretty great. try Left Handed Dream.

Stravinsky
May 31, 2011

Where should I start with dubstep ? I really don't know much beyond Skrillex, and he really didn't impress me.

hexwren
Feb 27, 2008

So I just had my mind blown by The Electrician again---where should I start with Scott Walker?

milk teeth
Oct 13, 2009

Allen Wren posted:

So I just had my mind blown by The Electrician again---where should I start with Scott Walker?

Scott 4, Scott 4, Scott 4.

If you want more MOR, go backwards: Scott 3, 2 then 1. That way you can ease into the schmaltzy tracks that litter his early albums.

I assume you've got the first four tracks off Nite Flights already, but if you want more of that sweet, gritty 'lectrician poo poo, your penultimate goal is Tilt. Climate of the Hunter is a recommended jump-off point - uneven but with lots of short, strong, queasy tracks. Tilt is enormous in more ways than one and should be approached with caution.

Blast Fantasto
Sep 18, 2007

USAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
New album has me interested in Rufus Wainwright

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

NoiseNoiseNoise posted:

Where should I start with dubstep ? I really don't know much beyond Skrillex, and he really didn't impress me.

Someone can probably handle this better than I can (28 Gun Bad Boy, I'm looking at you!), but first off, Skrillex isn't dubstep. He gets confused for being a dubstep artist a lot of the time, but nothing he does is dubstep. It's more electro than anything.

For real dubstep, definitely check out stuff from Burial and Boxcutter. And Skream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlEkvbRmfrA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S5X8PYPZK4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6WJYe6n-l8

I have a hard-on for a lot of Bassnectar tracks too, but even he's not always true dubstep. He frequently goes the electro route, like Skrillex.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M-jOZRe0-8

Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 16:27 on May 3, 2012

28 Gun Bad Boy
Nov 5, 2009

Never been to Belgium

NoiseNoiseNoise posted:

Where should I start with dubstep ? I really don't know much beyond Skrillex, and he really didn't impress me.

Well it's good you've got some taste at least.

Though to be serious, there are worse things in this day and age than starting with GetDarker's compilation series This Is Dubstep (ignore the cheesy name). They've got what must be nearly half-dozen CDs out now, with the 2012 edition having launched a few months back. One reason I recommend them to someone who doesn't have a clue is because the whole GetDarker crew thing have been there pretty much since early days, so know what the score really is. They're no failed D&B act or dodgy Electro-House 2008 bandwagoneers.

So they generally have a decent mix of all the different styles, from the darker half-step stuff to the more jump-up stuff and everything in between. They do have a lot of utter bollocks, vacuous pish in there though sadly (gently caress you Nero and Foreign Beggars, you're shite and you know you are) but the good generally outweighs the bad - well most of the time anyway.

As usual it's a singles game - how it should be really - but without known exactly what you're interested in it can be a bit hard to narrow down some more. But like I said those comps do have a half-decent mix of styles so you can try use them to pin some likes down.

Rubber Biscuit
Jan 21, 2007

Yeah, I was in the shit.
Sorry to stick to the general genre recommendations but i'd really like to get my hands on some Italo Disco and some chicago house.

Programmable Soda
Aug 8, 2008

Blast Fantasto posted:

New album has me interested in Rufus Wainwright

I started with Want Two, which has a somewhat similar sound to Out of the Game. It's darker in content and a bit more theatrical imo. Just listening to that record made me a Rufus fan. Poses is another good starting point, and overall I think that's his masterpiece.
The only stinker in his catalogue is All Days Are Night: Songs for Lulu, which is just way too depressing and not a good representation of his overall sound. Rufus Wainwright is okay, Want One is good (I prefer Want Two, though most critics do not), Release the Stars is great. His Judy Garland show is pretty fun too.

global tetrahedron
Jun 24, 2009

James Brown. I don't think he was necessarily an 'album' kind of guy, but I could be wrong. I love lots of funk stuff but never got around to him because his discography is so huge and I never thought a single Greatest Hits comp would be any good. I think this genre shines live, so that avenue might be good, or anything else really. Where should I start?

edit: can't believe I posted this without bolding an artist name

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

global tetrahedron posted:

James Brown. I don't think he was necessarily an 'album' kind of guy, but I could be wrong. I love lots of funk stuff but never got around to him because his discography is so huge and I never thought a single Greatest Hits comp would be any good. I think this genre shines live, so that avenue might be good, or anything else really. Where should I start?

edit: can't believe I posted this without bolding an artist name

As far as individual albums, I usually stick to his live stuff. Live at the Apollo 1962 is a pure classic, and I also really love Live at the Apollo II, which has more funk if that is what you are looking for - the middle section of the second disc, from "There was a Time" (I think that is where it starts) to "Cold Sweat" is one of the best funk medleys you will ever hear ("Hey Hey, I feel alright, uh!").

After that, I think the best thing you can do is buy the Star Time Box Set. Like you said, James Brown isn't really an album guy, but nobody has more great songs than him. You get 71 with this set, and that should be a good start.

Edit: Robert Christgau loves James Brown, and agrees with Star Times as the starting point.

Voodoofly fucked around with this message at 00:57 on May 10, 2012

Blast Fantasto
Sep 18, 2007

USAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Programmable Soda posted:

I started with Want Two, which has a somewhat similar sound to Out of the Game. It's darker in content and a bit more theatrical imo. Just listening to that record made me a Rufus fan. Poses is another good starting point, and overall I think that's his masterpiece.
The only stinker in his catalogue is All Days Are Night: Songs for Lulu, which is just way too depressing and not a good representation of his overall sound. Rufus Wainwright is okay, Want One is good (I prefer Want Two, though most critics do not), Release the Stars is great. His Judy Garland show is pretty fun too.

Thanks, these were all great. I also liked Want Two better than One.

global tetrahedron
Jun 24, 2009

Voodoofly posted:

stuff

Thanks! This is exactly what I needed.

FitFortDanga
Nov 19, 2004

Nice try, asshole

If you want a more complete overview of his funk stuff, I recommend these over Star Time:

Foundations Of Funk: A Brand New Bag: 1964-1969
Funk Power 1970: A Brand New Thang
Make It Funky: Big Payback 1971-1975


and for extra credit:

James Brown's Funky People
James Brown's Funky People Part 2
James Brown's Funky People Part 3
The JB's - Funky Good Time: The Anthology

whooping crane
Feb 12, 2012

Allen Wren posted:

So I just had my mind blown by The Electrician again---where should I start with Scott Walker?

I second Scott 4. But then I would go with The Drift, where Walker fully flexes his experimental side.

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

FitFortDanga posted:

If you want a more complete overview of his funk stuff, I recommend these over Star Time:

Foundations Of Funk: A Brand New Bag: 1964-1969

I almost listed this one as well - I love that collection.

Shaved Wild
Feb 15, 2012
Where should I start with The Mountain Goats? The discography seems quite large and daunting to begin with.

Iraff
Dec 29, 2008

Sunset Tree is what a lot of people will say and it's a good example of his polished sound w/ pianos and strings and whatever. I like his lo-fi stuff tons better and if that sounds like your bag you should get All Hail West Texas

Call Me Charlie
Dec 3, 2005

by Smythe

global tetrahedron posted:

James Brown. I don't think he was necessarily an 'album' kind of guy, but I could be wrong. I love lots of funk stuff but never got around to him because his discography is so huge and I never thought a single Greatest Hits comp would be any good. I think this genre shines live, so that avenue might be good, or anything else really. Where should I start?

edit: can't believe I posted this without bolding an artist name

Love Power Peace: Live at the Olympia, Paris 1971

It's arguably his best live release and it's the only recording with the original J.B's AND Bootsy & Catfish Collins.

A must listen to if you are looking to get into the funky side of James Brown.

Shaved Wild
Feb 15, 2012

Iraff posted:

Sunset Tree is what a lot of people will say and it's a good example of his polished sound w/ pianos and strings and whatever. I like his lo-fi stuff tons better and if that sounds like your bag you should get All Hail West Texas

Thanks! I went ahead and picked up Sunset Tree from amazon as it was considerably cheaper than All Hail West Texas, but as soon as I get some more money in I'll be sure to pick it up too as I quite enjoyed the samples provided.

boonsha
Jul 22, 2009

Anybody want to make ten dollars and respond verbally?
I'm sorry if this has been asked before, I couldn't find it.
Where do I go next with Neil Young? I have Harvest and Comes a Time and I love them both, but to say he has a lot of albums is an understatement. I know he starts playing electric guitar at some point, and I found an album of covers of 50's songs, but I don't know what's decent.
Thanks for your help!

quadrophrenic
Feb 4, 2011

WIN MARNIE WIN

boonsha posted:

I'm sorry if this has been asked before, I couldn't find it.
Where do I go next with Neil Young? I have Harvest and Comes a Time and I love them both, but to say he has a lot of albums is an understatement. I know he starts playing electric guitar at some point, and I found an album of covers of 50's songs, but I don't know what's decent.
Thanks for your help!

Oh man that's a tough one. If you like that warbly folksy poo poo, you should definitely acquire

Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere
After the Gold Rush
Zuma
Harvest Moon is like one of his most popular albums and he recorded it the 90s and it's pretty MOR compared to the older stuff but it's a beautiful little night-time country album if you ask me.

Myself, I love it when Neil gets really weird and dark and let's 'er rip a little, so I absolutely adore

Tonight's the Night
Re Ac Tor
Rust Never Sleeps
Broken Arrow is like one of his least popular albums and the last few tracks are really silly and crap, but the front end is real fuckin' stoney and long and I totally love the poo poo out of it, you might too, maybe not, who knows.

His 90s and 00s albums work really well on paper but tend to be long and meandering and boring. I must however point out Le Noise which is brilliant but weird. It's just crunchy guitar and vocals and nothing else. It's really sparse and reminds of a Suicide album or something.

quadrophrenic fucked around with this message at 04:01 on May 20, 2012

hexwren
Feb 27, 2008

Neil Young's back catalogue is pretty densely packed, both with high-firing misses and skyrockets of unimaginable excellence. He's had various backing bands, each of which result in wholly separate sounds. I suggest, personally, that you try going at least somewhat chronologically, especially since you've got something of an idea of what the man can do in the acoustic/country-tinged vein. To say that he "started" playing electric at some point in his career is somewhat incorrect---he was known for his lead playing in both Buffalo Springfield and Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young.

Springfield and CSNY's core catalogues are small enough as to be easily taken whole (avoid repackaging and any later work, basically), but for Young's solo career, I suggest starting with his second record (and first with proto-grunge stalwarts Crazy Horse) 1969's Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere. It's an absolute smash, combining elegaic country-rock tunes (Round & Round, Running Dry) and the guitar fireworks that more or less became his trademark as the years went on (Cinnamon Girl, Down By The River, Cowgirl in the Sand.)

The two albums that followed, After The Gold Rush and Harvest, respectively, make up one of the most ridiculously solid three-album runs this side of anybody. Start there.

Of course, proceeding thereafter requires some caveats. The three albums immediately following Harvest are informally referred to as Young's "Ditch Trilogy", after a remark about heading for an artistic ditch after Heart of Gold put him in the proverbial middle of the road. 1973's live record Time Fades Away (consisting of all new material recorded on a fairly-disastrous tour), and the two following studio records, 1974's On the Beach and `75's Tonight's The Night (recorded in `73 but shelved for two years), are relentlessly morose, dark records, surrounded by death and other gloom. They're fantastically interesting works (barring some of the lesser material on the currently out-of-print TFA record), but probably not the best starting point. The playing becomes increasingly loose, and Crazy Horse reveal themselves to be probably the single most-inspiring catalyst for Young's writing.

Three increasingly schizoid records followed, with Neil throwing darts every which way and occasionally hitting the mark, albeit often in different genres. Zuma, American Stars 'n Bars and Comes A Time are all highly listenable, but by this time, Neil was recycling recordings from sessions years before (Released in 1977, ASnB was recorded in at least four sessions from `74-`77) and seemed to lack focus.

1979 got Neil back on track, cutting my two favorite records of his, the mostly-recorded-on-stage-with-the-audience-noise-scrubbed Rust Never Sleeps and the properly live follow-up Live Rust. Both records proceed from quieter acoustic work to slashing Crazy Horse wildness. Absolutely critical, in my opinion. You may, in fact, want to start with Live Rust, as it provides a fairly coherent overview of a number of non-Harvest high points of his `70s material.

Unfortunately, the 80s followed the 70s, and Neil headed for the ditch again, this time with no helmet and fewer good ideas.

Neil in the 80s is a contentious topic. Your mileage may vary. Suffice to say it's not where to start with Young's work. As such, it's safe to say that I've again prattled on too long. Probably long enough that someone else has already replied to the topic with a simple two-sentence answer. Oh well.

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Blast Fantasto
Sep 18, 2007

USAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Howsabout Peter Gabriel era Genssis and Gabriel solo?

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