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Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Sinestro posted:

Are there any people using KVM switches? I want to hook my new Macbook Pro and my gaming PC to my (dual link DVI only) monitor, but not having to move my keyboard and mouse from computer to computer would be nice.

We have a rackmount one that we split between a couple Linux servers, a newer Mac Mini, and a PowerMac G4 (USB connections). I'll check the brand in the morning.

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Sonic Dude
May 6, 2009

Sinestro posted:

Are there any people using KVM switches? I want to hook my new Macbook Pro and my gaming PC to my (dual link DVI only) monitor, but not having to move my keyboard and mouse from computer to computer would be nice.
Yep, we use some cheapos from Monoprice or the like at work. Ours are VGA-only because the machines are ancient, but DVI ones aren't terribly pricey unless you want crazy features.

One of ours (I think from NewEgg) is controllable from the keyboard, which is pretty awesome (Ctrl-Ctrl-#-Enter changes to the input labelled #).

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD
Dual-Link DVI KVMs are pretty esoteric/pricey though. Whatever you do don't get a Flip.

ZoCrowes
Nov 17, 2005

by Lowtax
I installed a 128 GB Crucial SSD (this one to be exact: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004W2JKZI/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00) in my early 2011 13" Macbook Pro. I cannot believe how fast this thing is. However, my computer now sounds like an aircraft taking off and is running very, very hot. According to smcFanControl it was running in the 180 degree F range. This goes completely against the purpose of installing an SSD.

Is there something I am missing? Do I need to send the drive back and have it replaced?

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

ZoCrowes posted:

I installed a 128 GB Crucial SSD (this one to be exact: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004W2JKZI/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00) in my early 2011 13" Macbook Pro. I cannot believe how fast this thing is. However, my computer now sounds like an aircraft taking off and is running very, very hot. According to smcFanControl it was running in the 180 degree F range. This goes completely against the purpose of installing an SSD.

Is there something I am missing? Do I need to send the drive back and have it replaced?

My 2010 iMac generally runs at 43 degrees C which is 109 degrees F with the fans set to @ 1150 RPM

I downloaded SMC fan control (which tells you the speed and temp) and this command lets you set the [b]minimum[b] fan speed. [b]That exact command probably won't work in a 13" MBP but search for a bit and you should find one.[b] After running for a few minutes my fans hit 5,500 RPM (even though the heat doesn't go up) because my SSD didn't have a place for the third wire that went into the OEM HD (temp sensor)
code:
/applications/smcfancontrol.app/Contents/resources/smc -k F1Mx -w 1200
(it sets 1200rpm but ends up actually running 1550-ish)

I had a 2010 and 2011 Macbook Pro 13" and never had that issue with SSD's in either of those. Are you sure you don't have Flash or something running which might cause the fans to kick on?

ZoCrowes
Nov 17, 2005

by Lowtax

Bob Morales posted:


I had a 2010 and 2011 Macbook Pro 13" and never had that issue with SSD's in either of those. Are you sure you don't have Flash or something running which might cause the fans to kick on?

It was on a fresh install so Flash should not have even been present. I took out the SSD and put my old HDD back in and it is running just fine. I'm running at 108 F right now.

I'm going to play around with it a bit more today. Otherwise the drive is going back.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

It could be as simple as resetting the SMC

ZoCrowes
Nov 17, 2005

by Lowtax

Bob Morales posted:

It could be as simple as resetting the SMC

That's actually one of the first things I tried. I am now coming to the limit of my meager computer skills.

I honestly have no idea what it could be. I've got the activity monitor running and there are no rogue apps that should be causing it to run so hot.

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


Reset the PRAM (different from SMC), make sure Startup Disk in System Preferences points to the drive, maybe even make sure the battery condition is okay in System Profile.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Bob Morales posted:

We have a rackmount one that we split between a couple Linux servers, a newer Mac Mini, and a PowerMac G4 (USB connections). I'll check the brand in the morning.
It's not going to do DL-DVI though

porno for the deaf
Oct 26, 2004

Get in there. Have some sex with her right now.

ZoCrowes posted:

It was on a fresh install so Flash should not have even been present. I took out the SSD and put my old HDD back in and it is running just fine. I'm running at 108 F right now.

I'm going to play around with it a bit more today. Otherwise the drive is going back.

Any possibility that this is because Spotlight is indexing your fresh install? I know that when my 13-inch early-2011 is indexing for spotlight, the fan speeds up a bit.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
Have you checked activity monitor to see what process is raping the processor?

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

evil_bunnY posted:

It's not going to do DL-DVI though

Yeah, that's why I never replied.

Yeast
Dec 25, 2006

$1900 Grande Latte

porno for the deaf posted:

Any possibility that this is because Spotlight is indexing your fresh install? I know that when my 13-inch early-2011 is indexing for spotlight, the fan speeds up a bit.

This would be my initial guess as well.

It should settle after 20mins or so, give or take.

ZoCrowes
Nov 17, 2005

by Lowtax

Yeast posted:

This would be my initial guess as well.

It should settle after 20mins or so, give or take.

Yep, that was the culprit. Everything is golden now. I can't get over how fast this drat thing is now.

AlwaysWetID34
Mar 8, 2003
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evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

All of that swag, then the worst desk and shaggy carpet.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Tom's Hardware has a step-by-step SSD swap into an iMac article:

http://www.tomshardware.com/picturestory/593-imac-ssd-do-it-yourself.html

AlwaysWetID34
Mar 8, 2003
*shrug*
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AlwaysWetID34 fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Jan 18, 2019

Dr. Video Games 0050
Nov 28, 2007

McFunkerson posted:

I wanted to share my latest project with everyone. It came off a store front so I had to buy a transformer and set it up for "home use". It's about 3 feet tall and makes a wonderful addition to my pro sign, which is also out of an Apple Retail store.


How did you acquire those? Usually everything gets broken when being thrown out.

AlwaysWetID34
Mar 8, 2003
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AlwaysWetID34 fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Jan 18, 2019

brap
Aug 23, 2004

Grimey Drawer

Bob Morales posted:

Tom's Hardware has a step-by-step SSD swap into an iMac article:

http://www.tomshardware.com/picturestory/593-imac-ssd-do-it-yourself.html

Isn't there space for a 2.5" drive in all new iMacs now?

decypher
Aug 23, 2003

Who else see da leprechaun say yaaaa!

evil_bunnY posted:

All of that swag, then the worst desk and shaggy carpet.

Not to mention the cables. Living. Like. poo poo.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

fleshweasel posted:

Isn't there space for a 2.5" drive in all new iMacs now?

Think so. I haven't opened one up yet.

decypher posted:

Not to mention the cables. Living. Like. poo poo.

Look at the crooked wall plate. HOW CAN YOU STAND IT

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


fleshweasel posted:

Isn't there space for a 2.5" drive in all new iMacs now?

Yes, because it's an option for all currently shipping iMacs except the lowest end.

kuskus
Oct 20, 2007

Good luck on the move, McFunkerson.

beefnoodle
Aug 7, 2004

IGNORE ME! I'M JUST AN OLD WET RAG
From the link kuskus posted, what's the device to the left of the Macbook in the picture? Appears to be a headphone amp or something, but it's too small for Google image search to pick up.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

beefnoodle posted:

From the link kuskus posted, what's the device to the left of the Macbook in the picture? Appears to be a headphone amp or something, but it's too small for Google image search to pick up.



http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Speaker-System-Subwoofer-Black/dp/B000AM6QHE

beefnoodle
Aug 7, 2004

IGNORE ME! I'M JUST AN OLD WET RAG
Thanks. Is it odd that I'm disappointed it's part of the speakers and not some more interesting audio controller?

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

beefnoodle posted:

Thanks. Is it odd that I'm disappointed it's part of the speakers and not some more interesting audio controller?

You should check out the Griffin Powermate if you want a neat looking volume control

hotsauce
Jan 14, 2007
So I got an early 2011 MBP (17", matte) locally today. It had a 750gig 5400 drive in it. Want to replace that ASAP. I have a Samsung 470 128gb SSD lying around and just installed everything on it.

Clearly, I'm going to need more space. Would it be best to re-purpose the 750 gig drive in one of the OWC caddies (or the $14 knockoff) vs. just getting a Seagate 750 hybrid?

Basically I get annoyed with having two drives...always having to separate apps on the SSD and photos/music on the platter. Is there a way to make the 750 join my 128 SSD seamlessly? Or am I going to just have to deal with two separate storage locations?

Ninja edit: I want to install Win7 under BootCamp as well if that makes a difference.

kuskus
Oct 20, 2007

When you say "always having to separate" as if it's tedious, perhaps you haven't made use of symlinks. You could just set up symbolic links to items on HDD and then use your computer with reckless abandon, ie iTunes and iPhoto libraries, download folder and docs. Perhaps the speed gain of SSD is not worth the half-hour of initial setup for you? If you were to use both drives as one accessible "volume" I think the results would be enough to nullify the SSD advantage.

As for Win 7 Boot Camp on a secondary drive, many say to pull out your OS X drive after you've run the assistant to create your Win 7 partition, then install Win 7, then return your drives to configuration. If you don't have an external DVD drive, you could just sit your 750GB in the primary spot and hook up the SuperDrive temporarily for the install. Then, reconnect the SSD OS X boot drive and your datadoubler/tray + HDD. Else, give the free VirtualBox a shot and just go virtualized. Less of a licensing headache as posted a few pages back.

Edits for clarification (I've got to stop posting from Awful.app).

kuskus fucked around with this message at 16:24 on May 12, 2012

CAPS LOCK BROKEN
Feb 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
Just graduated today. All this graduation money is burning a hole in my pocket-- Apple needs to get those Ivy Bridge MBPs out ASAP.

AbsoluteLlama
Aug 15, 2009

By the power vested in me by random musings in tmt... I proclaim you guilty of crustophilia!
I was wondering what the performance of a mini hooked up to two 24" monitors would be? Would I need to get the one with the dedicated graphics chip? I don't plan to play games or anything... I'm just concerned about performance driving both monitors.

I guess this question might be moot as I'll probably wait until the mini refresh and it might have ivy bridge or something.

If apple would make an Air that could drive two monitors and not have to buy their display to do it I'd totally wait in line to buy it like a crazed fan.

tuna
Jul 17, 2003

Peven Stan posted:

Just graduated today. All this graduation money is burning a hole in my pocket-- Apple needs to get those Ivy Bridge MBPs out ASAP.

I just got paid today, and 2 weeks before that, and 2 weeks before that, etc. etc. It's all waiting to be spent on a nice new laptop from culinary fruit-god, Tim Cook.

Who am I kidding? Alienware 4 lyfe.

I'm kidding me.

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose!
I plan on buying a new iMac when I graduate this summer, after the 2012 model is released, and I imagine my set up will look like: 256GB SSD partitioned in half, one for Windows, one for OSX, and a 1-2TB platter drive with Documents, Pictures, ... symlinked into ~/Whatever in OSX, and the Windows 7 (8?) Libraries pointed to those same locations. This seems like the most seamless way to operate.

I imagine that FAT32 is the best option for formatting the platter drive. How is the support for HFS+ in Windows / NTFS in OSX?

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

ZShakespeare posted:

I plan on buying a new iMac when I graduate this summer, after the 2012 model is released, and I imagine my set up will look like: 256GB SSD partitioned in half, one for Windows, one for OSX, and a 1-2TB platter drive with Documents, Pictures, ... symlinked into ~/Whatever in OSX, and the Windows 7 (8?) Libraries pointed to those same locations. This seems like the most seamless way to operate.

I imagine that FAT32 is the best option for formatting the platter drive. How is the support for HFS+ in Windows / NTFS in OSX?

You can't keep files over 2GB on FAT32, and acess seems much slower than using HFS+ in my experience.

Arrowsmith
Feb 6, 2006

SAGANISTA!

Bob Morales posted:

You can't keep files over 2GB on FAT32, and acess seems much slower than using HFS+ in my experience.

ExFAT then?

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Arrowsmith posted:

ExFAT then?

I think the only downside of using ExFAT is if you tried to connect the drive to something other than a newer Mac or Windows PC you wouldn't be able to read it - but if it's an internal drive that's not a problem.

Linux doesn't read it out of the box (but can read it with FUSE) or if you tried to connect it to a DVR or TV or something, it would only read regular FAT (I think)

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hotsauce
Jan 14, 2007
I put a Segate Momentus XT 750gb Hybrid in my Early 2011 17" MBP and it's not sleeping. I cannot get it to spin down at all.

Shame because I like the drive. If I can't figure this out, I'm going to have to return it. Saw something about downgrading the EFI to 1.6 and playing with the sleep settings. Does this work?

Also, forcing sleep from the menu doesn't work. Damnit.

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