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Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang
This really really stinks of burnt MDF. I'm thinking of doing it all in the Necron black green, including the top bit. Also, stick it on a big flyer oval base ?

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Fix
Jul 26, 2005

NEWT THE MOON

Why put it on a base? Also, what is it?

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang
I'm going to use it as a Necron teleport gateway (scenery/objective). Not sure why I feel an urge to stick it on a base, maybe to tie it into the feel of the 40k models a bit more.

It used to look like this:

JesusIsTehCool
Aug 26, 2002
So I am just getting into painting miniatures and I am wondering if there are any recommended tutorials on proper brush technique and cleaning? I have been using cheaper brushes to start with because I assumed I would ruin them, but now that I am more comfortable I have been thinking about upgrading. I am interested in the proper way to prevent paint from getting up in the ferrule and what is the proper way to clean your brush.

Dr Hemulen
Jan 25, 2003

Big Willy Style posted:

Just a nt about this, it definitely isn't the old citadel washes. Also you can get the same effect by using a polyurethane varnish with stain that you can just buy in any hardware store. You will probably get about twice as much dip for your dollar. The brand I use in Australia is Feast Watson, can't help out the poms or seppos though.

I gave the wrong link, the stuff I'm talking about is the dropper bottle inks, which is something else entirely.

The tins are polyurethane (which I didn't know), the dropper bottles are mtaching water soluble acrylics.

Here's a review: http://taleofpainters.blogspot.com/2012/04/review-army-painter-warpaint-inks.html
They also compare them to the old Citadel washes.

quote:

Conclusion

The Warpaint Inks make a great replacement for the old Citadel washes. They work the same and the tones are an almost perfect match to their Citadel counterparts. In addition, the inks come in 18 ml dropper bottles for just 2,75 Euro, so you get 50% more wash for less, as Citadel paints are 12 ml for 3 Euro.

Please like this guys :denmark:

Dr Hemulen fucked around with this message at 08:41 on May 13, 2012

Hellbeard
Apr 8, 2002


Please report me if you see me post in GBS so a moderator may bulldoze my account like a palestinian school.
I had a good look at some more solid reference after some research. Apparently my eye ball guesstimation was a little off. Here is the new Mark 4 binoculars modeled after Jena 7x50:





Compare to v.1, 2 and 3 from right to left.
(for scale, the drill bit is 1mm thick)

Yeti Fiasco
Aug 19, 2010
Time to interrupt this threadnaught with nids!
Colours for Hive Fleet Manticore are:-
Body: Graveyard earth undercoat, BB wash, graveyard drybrush, graveyard/bleached bone drybrush, graveyard/bleached bone highlights.
Carapace: Dark angels green, jade green feathered on the edges, scoprion green feathered on the tips, high gloss fishing rod varnish.
Reds: Scab > gore > blood.
These pictures are a couple years old, the hive tyrant is currently being replaces with the pretty new plastic one as it will probably break less (Note the perpetually broken tail)






Blood ravens where done using awesomepaintjob.com's airbrush tutorial, very pleased with how they came out.



Salamanders where painted using a variation on awesomepaintjob.com's tutorial, paints used where:-
Vall. air Olive green basecoat > 16/10 ol green/ vall. goblin green 90* highlights > goblin green 45* highlights > Scorpion green top highlights > win & new brilliant green ink mop wash over the entire model > scorp green highlights. The ink wash made it really vibrant and I'm super chuffed how it came out.

Hellbeard
Apr 8, 2002


Please report me if you see me post in GBS so a moderator may bulldoze my account like a palestinian school.
Love the painting there Yeti Fiasco!

Added a pant leg.







adamantium|wang
Sep 14, 2003

Missing you

Hellbeard posted:

Added a pant leg.









Keep it coming dude, love watching them come along. Thanks for including your experiments and failures as well instead of just showing the finished product, we get a much better idea of the process involved.

Hixson
Mar 27, 2009

Hellbeard posted:





I think I'm more impressed you haven't rage quit. This looks like the most tedious, frustrating thing in the world.

I couldn't do it.

Hellbeard
Apr 8, 2002


Please report me if you see me post in GBS so a moderator may bulldoze my account like a palestinian school.

adamantium|wang posted:

Keep it coming dude, love watching them come along. Thanks for including your experiments and failures as well instead of just showing the finished product, we get a much better idea of the process involved.

Cool. The experiments are probably the more interesting aspects. I'm sure the lessons can be applied to other projects.


Hixson posted:


I think I'm more impressed you haven't rage quit. This looks like the most tedious, frustrating thing in the world.

I couldn't do it.

Thanks. It's really interesting, actually, to see it come together before your eyes and plan and try different solutions. It's definitely a challenge. I'm sure you could do it if you put your mind to it.

Edit: Oh, and also I can see and feel how I can do better the more experience I get and it's sort of exciting to think of the different things that one can possibly make.

Edit 2: (don't wanna spam too hard)

Added pants to 15mm Sharon, worked some more on binoculars v.4 and added a pant and pistol holster to 28mm Sharon.














Hellbeard fucked around with this message at 21:32 on May 13, 2012

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat
Finished a second test model.







Tried a ton of things and learned a lot. I continue to struggle with raised textures (chaos icon and skull on backpack). Also, even with a light box and 3 lights, my camera just can't take good macro photos. I don't want to spend $100+ on a new one, but I think I have no choice :(

(+) Nailed the colors
(+) Learned how to highlight and blend
(+) Powders are cool
(+) Pencil weathering is fun and awesome

(-) Need deeper shadows
(-) White is still a problem
(-) Sponge weathering? Not as effective as a fine point brush

I almost stooped halfway. Glad that I finished because he ended up decent. If I can keep experimenting I think I'll be comfortable with mass production pretty soon. Any recommendations for bases for my theme?



e:

Big Willy Style posted:

Just a nt about this, it definitely isn't the old citadel washes. Also you can get the same effect by using a polyurethane varnish with stain that you can just buy in any hardware store. You will probably get about twice as much dip for your dollar. The brand I use in Australia is Feast Watson, can't help out the poms or seppos though.

I think he's talking about army painter inks, not the quickshade stuff.

BULBASAUR fucked around with this message at 22:50 on May 13, 2012

Hermetic
Sep 7, 2007

by exmarx
Putting together some Arco-Flagellants. This, combined with my Khador stuff has made me wonder something, thread: Why are the spiky models always the ones that the superglue refuses to set on?

If a model is smooth, I know it's going to snap together instantly. But covered in tiny pewter barbs? That fucker is going to have to be held together for HOURS as blood drips onto my lap and shards of white metal dig into my finger bones.

Hermetic fucked around with this message at 00:19 on May 14, 2012

Fyrbrand
Dec 30, 2002

Grimey Drawer

Yeti Fiasco posted:

Time to interrupt this threadnaught with nids!

This whole post = a good post.

The Supreme Court
Feb 25, 2010

Pirate World: Nearly done!

Hermetic posted:

Putting together some Arco-Flagellants. This, combined with my Khador stuff has made me wonder something, thread: Why are the spiky models always the ones that the superglue refuses to set on?

If a model is smooth, I know it's going to snap together instantly. But covered in tiny pewter barbs? That fucker is going to have to be held together for HOURS as blood drips onto my lap as shards of white metal dig into my finger bones.

The key is to use the bits of skin torn off by glue as filler material, you'll get a better bond that way.

Yeti Fiasco
Aug 19, 2010

Hermetic posted:

Putting together some Arco-Flagellants. This, combined with my Khador stuff has made me wonder something, thread: Why are the spiky models always the ones that the superglue refuses to set on?

If a model is smooth, I know it's going to snap together instantly. But covered in tiny pewter barbs? That fucker is going to have to be held together for HOURS as blood drips onto my lap and shards of white metal dig into my finger bones.

need to get yourself some accelerator bub, I don't know why so many people refuse to use it, it works a treat.

MasterSlowPoke
Oct 9, 2005

Our courage will pull us through
The only problem I have with accelerators is that it makes me feel like I just squirted WD-40 up my nose. Gotta ventilate that poo poo.

PaintVagrant
Apr 13, 2007

~ the ultimate driving machine ~
Brush it on, it helps keem the fumes down. Still nasty as gently caress though

Yeti Fiasco
Aug 19, 2010
I cant say I have a problem, I have some ZAPP! foamsafe kicker and it produces no fumes, it doesn't even smell of anything, I assume the nasty stuff had to be taken out to make it foamsafe.

PaintVagrant
Apr 13, 2007

~ the ultimate driving machine ~

Yeti Fiasco posted:

I cant say I have a problem, I have some ZAPP! foamsafe kicker and it produces no fumes, it doesn't even smell of anything, I assume the nasty stuff had to be taken out to make it foamsafe.

Whoa. I may have to look into that. So its foam safe...but doesnt regular CA glue eat the poo poo out of foam? Do they have a "foam safe" CA glue?

JoshTheStampede
Sep 8, 2004

come at me bro
This sounds weird but saliva also works as a CA glue accelerant. Apply glue to one piece, lick the other piece, glue sets in seconds. Do not mix these steps up. Also do not apply glue, push pieces together, and then remember and lick one side. Superglue tastes pretty bad.

You can also put a teeny-tiny shred of paper towel in the joint to be glued. This doesn't accelerate the glue but does make a stronger bond as it creates a weird sort of cement.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Licking a miniature is the bit that sounds weird to me.

crime fighting hog
Jun 29, 2006

I only pray, Heaven knows when to lift you out

Flipswitch posted:

Licking a miniature is the bit that sounds weird to me.

You were doing it anyways, don't lie.

WhiteOutMouse
Jul 29, 2010

:wom: will blow your mind.
When I started I was amazed to learn that water makes superglue cure faster, apparently that's why it LOVES skin. But if I ever used a bit of sliva then the bond would look, dirty. It would puff up a bit and just look bad compaired to normal drying method.

The quick cure stuff did not have this problem, but I recall reading that it makes the bond slightly easier to break. Which could be a good thing depending on the job.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


crime fighting hog posted:

You were doing it anyways, don't lie.
It was just the once I swear baby. :smith:

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



Cross-posting a photo my mom took, from the historicals thread:



:love::black101::love:
Happy Mother's Day!

Yeti Fiasco
Aug 19, 2010

PaintVagrant posted:

Whoa. I may have to look into that. So its foam safe...but doesnt regular CA glue eat the poo poo out of foam? Do they have a "foam safe" CA glue?

Cynoacrylic glue works by bonding with the moisture on a surface (so licking helps, don't lick the glue though.) The glue itself is foamsafe, but accelerators sometimes contain solvents which dissolve foam, foamsafe ones have none/less of these, though you still don't want to dump a whole pot over it as it will deteriorate the foam, but no where near as badly, you only need to use a really small amount anyway, the stuff is rad.



this is what I use, I recommend not using the little squirter and just using a brush as you can be way more accurate and use way less, one pot has lasted me 2 years of constant use so far, doesn't wreck the brush either (though I still use a cheap plastic one just in case.)

MasterSlowPoke
Oct 9, 2005

Our courage will pull us through
I've superglued lots of styrofoam and I've never noticed it melting.

Sykic
Feb 9, 2004

Resist! Humanity demands it! Resist!
Turns out I'm awful at making bases that aren't just dirt and grass. How would I make urban debris for this fine fellow? Or failing that, something that looks dangerously rocky?





As you can see the current rock and gravel look just isn't cutting it, it's too flat and plain. Also, any comments on how to improve the model itself would be appreciated. Yeah I know it lacks highlights but I didn't have the patience for them at the time.

Hermetic
Sep 7, 2007

by exmarx
Not sure if this has been brought up here before, but has anyone tried this?

http://photojojo.com/store/awesomeness/macro-lens-band/

For those who don't want to click the link:



If it works, then that's basically the perfect thing for getting some decent pictures without having to pester my friend for his camera, or drop cash on a DSLR.

EDIT: Added picture.

Hermetic fucked around with this message at 04:16 on May 14, 2012

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Sykic posted:

Turns out I'm awful at making bases that aren't just dirt and grass.
Try adding pieces of slate and blend it in with crushed up greenstuff or texturing medium? That's what I do for my urban bases.

jigokuman
Aug 28, 2002


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Sykic posted:

Turns out I'm awful at making bases that aren't just dirt and grass. How would I make urban debris for this fine fellow? Or failing that, something that looks dangerously rocky?

As you can see the current rock and gravel look just isn't cutting it, it's too flat and plain. Also, any comments on how to improve the model itself would be appreciated. Yeah I know it lacks highlights but I didn't have the patience for them at the time.
Add some yellow or white strips so to complete the middle-of-the-road/parking-lot look.

The Saddest Robot
Apr 17, 2007
Worked on some bases for my carnifexs this weekend. It was a fun chance to play around with my airbrush and try some things I don't normally get to try on bugs.



I also tested some quicker painting methods on a termagant to see how it turns out. It came out pretty nice. I feel pretty confident about burning through my stack of gants and gargoyles next weekend.

PS how do I photograph bright orange/yellow without it coming out all wrong? It doesn't look too bad here but the yellow really isn't showing up and I can't get it to show without it destroying the orange or jacking up the contrast to hell and back.



Yeti Fiasco posted:

Time to interrupt this threadnaught with nids!

That scheme is trippy as hell. We should team up and blind everyone with our bugs.

Fix
Jul 26, 2005

NEWT THE MOON

The yellow light on that thing is the bees knees.

SRM
Jul 10, 2009

~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~
So I used Fyrbrand's technique and I've finally got some snow on these bases!



Some detail on how I applied it to the mortars:



And a WIP on the next squad:

Chenghiz
Feb 14, 2007

WHITE WHALE
HOLY GRAIL
SRM you're getting really good at painting skin, grats. But those should be Winter Guard not Valhallans. :v:

S.J.
May 19, 2008

Just who the hell do you think we are?

Chenghiz posted:

SRM you're getting really good at painting skin, grats. But those should be Winter Guard not Valhallans. :v:

Agreed. He's even got a Mortar ready to go! :v:

Tadhg
Aug 5, 2007

AUT MORS
AUT GLORIA

:hist101:

Dominion posted:

You can also put a teeny-tiny shred of paper towel in the joint to be glued. This doesn't accelerate the glue but does make a stronger bond as it creates a weird sort of cement.

:eng101: That's because cyanoacrylate reacts super quickly with cotton. So fast that the reaction gives off a bunch of heat. Since the entire "curing" process is the polymerization of the CA molecules into long sturdy chains, the the cotton probably acts as a scaffolding as well as accelerant, making it so that there isn't non-bonding material in the glue join (as I think might be the case with normal accelerant.)

Which is pretty neat, and I have to try it now. :v:

S.J.
May 19, 2008

Just who the hell do you think we are?

Sykic posted:

Turns out I'm awful at making bases that aren't just dirt and grass. How would I make urban debris for this fine fellow? Or failing that, something that looks dangerously rocky?





As you can see the current rock and gravel look just isn't cutting it, it's too flat and plain. Also, any comments on how to improve the model itself would be appreciated. Yeah I know it lacks highlights but I didn't have the patience for them at the time.

What I've been doing for my warmachine stuff is buying some tiled plasticard, breaking it up into tiles and then using an exacto knife to cut the crap out of the pieces so it looks like they've been blown up a bit. Then strew them about the base and use a mixture of fine/medium grain sand to base the empty areas with. Then I occasionally add some razorwire or whatever to the base.

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SRM
Jul 10, 2009

~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~

Chenghiz posted:

SRM you're getting really good at painting skin, grats. But those should be Winter Guard not Valhallans. :v:

If Warmachine would let me paint 100+ of them and have them charge across the field into tanks and chainsaws to their deaths I might consider it :ussr:

Thanks for the compliment on the skin, btw. I'm very happy with how the faces are coming out.

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