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Wamsutta
Sep 9, 2001

A shame Squall was discontinued (IIRC).

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Valencia
Feb 1, 2005

Cyril, go lock up the product before Cokie Monster here gobbles it all up.

:catdrugs:

Perfectly Cromulent posted:

*Stone/Bruery/Elysian La Citrueille Celeste De Citracado: to quote my girlfriend, if you have to shrink the font to be able to fit all of the bullshit you've crammed into your beer onto the page, you've done something wrong. I don't know what the gently caress these generally excellent breweries were thinking when they tried to make this Frankenstein's monster of a beer, but it's totally out of whack. There are far too many ingredients in this to ever make something balanced.

I had this a few months ago and am adding my disappointment on top of the pile. The description at the bar made me go "oooh, pumpkin beer!" and then I was greeted by absolutely nothing of the sort. It was a hot mess and I wish I'd have spent my money much more wisely.

Went out with a friend of mine from out of town and had a Sam Adams Norse Legend and DFH Tweason'ale. The Norse Legend was my first encounter with a sahti and I quite liked it. It wasn't too heavy with the juniper on the backend, which was fine by me because I'm not the world's biggest fan of that. Wasn't so fond of the Tweason'ale, though, although I knew it wasn't a traditional beer. It wasn't super-terrible, but it wasn't really good either. (Like someone earlier in the thread, I find that I too suffer from sucking at descriptors beyond "good/not good" etc.)

Drove 45 minutes out and picked up a sixer of Hell or High Watermelon 2 days ago (related: FreelanceSocialist, I think I've figured out where you work :) ) and I am really impressed. I was amused at how there's barely any watermelon in the nose and it waits till the initial swallow to subtly show up, but it's not overly sicky-sweet like some fruit beers can be. It's really refreshing and super-easy to drink; I downed a can in about 5 minutes last night without really paying attention. I hope I can catch it on draft somewhere if there's a draft version. edit: and the can design is loving GORGEOUS too.

Valencia fucked around with this message at 17:23 on May 17, 2012

SUPER HASSLER
Jan 31, 2005

global tetrahedron posted:

Yowza. You can sure put them down... I think 10 3.2 beers would wreck me, let alone a 10 % abv RIS...

I used to do that sort of thing. I stopped for two reasons: one, that's pretty plainly alcoholic behavior; two, I usually found that I would go to bed and then wake up to find something like an open bottle of some really good imperial stout that was only a quarter emptied before we all passed out.

bartolimu
Nov 25, 2002


global tetrahedron posted:

Yowza. You can sure put them down... I think 10 3.2 beers would wreck me, let alone a 10 % abv RIS...
So I don't give the wrong impression here, if I drink that much it's over a long evening of hanging out with other beer nerds - 8+ hours, generally. I'm not sitting at the bar pounding one RIS after another. Also those aren't pints, because serving RIS in pints only sounds like a good idea until you do it.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

bartolimu posted:

So I don't give the wrong impression here, if I drink that much it's over a long evening of hanging out with other beer nerds - 8+ hours, generally. I'm not sitting at the bar pounding one RIS after another. Also those aren't pints, because serving RIS in pints only sounds like a good idea until you do it.

I once went to a bar that gave out Victory at Sea (10%) in pints for about 6 bucks. I'm not sure why I got a second one.

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

Angry Grimace posted:

I once went to a bar that gave out Victory at Sea (10%) in pints for about 6 bucks. I'm not sure why I got a second one.

Best bar experience I ever had: pints of 2008 AND 2009 Bourbon County at my local beer bar for $6 each. 2009 had just been released and they pulled a keg of '08 from their storage. The bar always had great selection at a great price. Shortly after this, they realized the could charge more and suckers like me would pay. But that one, glorious day...

ShaneB
Oct 22, 2002


Tapping of Saison-Brett at 5pm tonight here in Chicago. So hyped to finally try this, and straight from a Boulevard cicerone.

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

Angry Grimace posted:

I once went to a bar that gave out Victory at Sea (10%) in pints for about 6 bucks. I'm not sure why I got a second one.

We have a bar in town that does this. Their pricing is very flat so an average strength beer like Fat Tire is $5-6, but then some 9-10% beer like Great Divide Yeti is also $6 and both come in pints. So of course I get the more interesting booze bomb because hey, it's a better value! Suddenly two drinks in I'm hammered :downs:

Wamsutta
Sep 9, 2001

Brothers,, let me tell you about the time my friends and I were comped a pitcher of Ten Fidy,

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007

funkybottoms posted:

there you are, then. buy a bunch- it's relatively cheap and ages really well.

I may do this later today.

Mikey Purp
Sep 30, 2008

I realized it's gotten out of control. I realize I'm out of control.

Wamsutta posted:

Brothers,, let me tell you about the time my friends and I were comped a pitcher of Ten Fidy,

I thought I was into beer but I literally wouldn't know what to do with that.

Content: Opened a year old bottle of Santa Fe Brewing Co. Chicken Killer barley wine the other night and it was awful. The flavor actually wasn't bad per se, a little too sweet, but I barely even got to that point because the aroma was like terrible homebrew, almost like a burnt rubber type of smell. I'm guessing they severely under pitched or something.

Mikey Purp fucked around with this message at 20:18 on May 17, 2012

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
Then I'd certainly be a damned fool to feel any other way, wouldn't I?

Wamsutta posted:

Brothers,, let me tell you about the time my friends and I were comped a pitcher of Ten Fidy,

If you stare into the darkness, the darkness will stare into you.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

ShaneB posted:

Tapping of Saison-Brett at 5pm tonight here in Chicago. So hyped to finally try this, and straight from a Boulevard cicerone.

Will probably see you there! Got my bike fixed up and ready to roll.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
I will gladly throw my vote to Stone IRS as best RIS because it is:

A) Widely available, often in good quantities.
2) Cheap as gently caress.
iv) Tasty.
C) Ages very well.

It really is everything you should want in a good imperial stout for (nearly) every-day drinking.

Paul Proteus
Dec 6, 2007

Zombina says "si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes!"

crazyfish posted:

Will probably see you there! Got my bike fixed up and ready to roll.

I have a prior engagement tonight, but I think I'm going to check out the Norse bar tomorrow for the same tapping. It should be less crowded considering it's up north near me.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006
Indeed, Stone IRS is probably the best bang for your buck IRS. So cheap and so easy to age. I typically end up with a case or two of each year. Cracked open a 07 and 08 the other night and was in pure heaven.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Jack Skeleton posted:

Indeed, Stone IRS is probably the best bang for your buck IRS. So cheap and so easy to age. I typically end up with a case or two of each year. Cracked open a 07 and 08 the other night and was in pure heaven.

I had the '07 on tap a few months ago and it was one of the best things I've ever drank.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man
three years does not make DFH Fort any easier to drink. god, that is a gross loving beer. interestingly, though, a three year old keg of Chocolate Yeti has more hop and chili kick than the year old bottle i drank a few months ago- would this be a result of the kegs being stored at really low temperatures?

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


funkybottoms posted:

three years does not make DFH Fort any easier to drink. god, that is a gross loving beer. interestingly, though, a three year old keg of Chocolate Yeti has more hop and chili kick than the year old bottle i drank a few months ago- would this be a result of the kegs being stored at really low temperatures?

So I guess I should open my 2007 Fort sometime soon huh........

ShaneB
Oct 22, 2002


crazyfish posted:

Will probably see you there! Got my bike fixed up and ready to roll.

I'll be wearing a dark blue ballcap with a red block "C" on it (Indians).

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Sirotan posted:

So I guess I should open my 2007 Fort sometime soon huh........

by throwing it against some rocks, perhaps? seriously, i'm not a DFH hater like some posters around here, and kegs kept cold will age differently than bottles, but i don't foresee that being anything than a sweet, boozy mess. i applaud- perhaps ironically- anyone who can drink ten ounces of this stuff. open it with a few people who like sweet, high-octane brews and maybe it won't go to waste.

VVV 15-18% VVV

funkybottoms fucked around with this message at 23:00 on May 17, 2012

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


I actually had some 2 or 3 years ago at a goon beer tasting in Chicago with a somewhat underwhelming turnout. My friend brought it with her and we foolishly opened it close to the start of the tasting. I think we ended up at two out of the many places we had ultimately planned on going. It's 18% ABV I think?

ShaneB
Oct 22, 2002


Sirotan posted:

I actually had some 2 or 3 years ago at a goon beer tasting in Chicago with a somewhat underwhelming turnout. My friend brought it with her and we foolishly opened it close to the start of the tasting. I think we ended up at two out of the many places we had ultimately planned on going. It's 18% ABV I think?

I heard some stories about this

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


ShaneB posted:

I heard some stories about this

It wasn't pretty. On the upside, we discovered a nice place to get tacos while you're drunk at the train station near the Map Room!

escape artist
Sep 24, 2005

Slow train coming

FreelanceSocialist posted:

I will gladly throw my vote to Stone IRS as best RIS because it is:

A) Widely available, often in good quantities.
2) Cheap as gently caress.
iv) Tasty.
C) Ages very well.

It really is everything you should want in a good imperial stout for (nearly) every-day drinking.

On the other hand, I think Lagunitas Imperial Stout, which is cheap and widely available, and is made by a solid brewery, is one of the worst imperial stouts I've ever had.

Also, I only tried DFH Fort one time. It was $17.99 for a bottle. I had to force myself through it because it was too expensive to be a drain-pour, even though it was gross.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.
My buddy Dan's put a box o'stuff together for a brewer's tasting this weekend.





Also, the iPod's camera sucks.

ShaneB
Oct 22, 2002


Saison-Brett is pretty loving perfect. The keg version has pretty tame Brett, but it is an essentially perfect saison. I'm mentally comparing it to saison Dupont, but it's just a tiny bit creamier. I can't wait to hunt down bottles in a month.

Wamsutta
Sep 9, 2001

Two new beer experiences today! I picked up four packs of Sixpoint Apollo and 21st Amendment Monk's Blood.

Sixpoint Apollo is a delicious and refreshing wheat beer for this time of year. The yeast and the spicing makes me think of bubble gum, which my fiancee independently confirmed when she tried it. Very sweet, super drinkable. I'll buy this again.

21st Amendment Monk's Blood... WOW! Way more tasty than I imagined even given the description on the can. Coffee and vanilla on the nose, tons of vanilla at first taste, fading into cinnamon with an oaky bite. A strong beer at 8.3% but the booze is fairly well hidden - I'm not getting heat on this.

Canned beer owns for life, and I'll re-visit these two.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

bartolimu posted:

That Brutella sounds pretty amazing. Nuts in beer can go either way, though; Shorts can't seem to figure it out, but other places have done interesting things.


imagine water. now imagine peanut butter. now imagine just the tiniest bit of a hoppy aftertaste.

no, you're not imagining the chunks of peanut stuck in your teeth.

wattershed
Dec 27, 2002

Radio got his free iPod, did you get yours???

wattershed posted:

From one of the new San Diego breweries coming this year, their stainless steel flip top growler:



They're apparently the first brewery to have SS flip tops, sourced from this company: http://www.brewsuit.com/stainless-steel-growler.php

Very awesome as it meets the freshness preservation concerns the other SS growlers out there don't really address, and I don't have to worry about banging it around the fridge.

Went to Societe Brewing yesterday afternoon. San Diegoons (and surrounding environs), here's my little report:

Not a ton of parking, easily accessible from a few different freeways though and I had no problem finding the building. They're growing some hop vines on the south side of the building, those obviously just got set up but I bet it'll look cool in a few years. Will Societe be there in a few years, though?

Absolutely.

First, they're starting off big. I don't say that as a way to guarantee success, obviously, but it seems like they trust in their abilities, know what they're doing, and expect to need that room for their company quite quickly. To compare, their tasting room is about the size of Green Flash's (or 3x Alesmith or Lost Abbey's). They're still in that soft opening phase, so when you walk in there's absolutely nothing which says 'Societe' on it aside from their growlers and the employees' t-shirts. Nobody's going to be stumbling across the building.

Their tanks are visible from the entrance, and there's an L-shaped bar which runs roughly 50' overall. I may have miscounted, but I think they have a 16-tap setup along the shorter part of the 'L'. There's no place that I can see they'll be able to write a big overhead list of beers at, so as they add options they'll have to do more than using a label maker right above each tap. That said, they have only 2 beers ready as of right now:

The Harlot - a 6+% Belgian Extra (apparently they were shooting for 5.5% and...missed), it was a bit thin but wasn't lacking in bready esthers and had a surprisingly clean finish. They were aiming for a sessionable Belgian pale with the typical Belgian yeast profile. In that sense, job well done, but I'm not racing back to try it again.

The Apprentice - an 8.2% DIPA that is loving OUTSTANDING. A slightly less malty Exponential Hoppiness, or a more piney/citrusy Pliny. The balance in this thing is magnificent, and like The Harlot, it finishes incredibly neutral and lets the palate return to fully appreciate the beer. This is something you need to try if you're in the area.

They're going to have another two beers ready by around the end of the month, another IPA and (I think) another Belgisn...one of those is called 'The Poet' if I heard the guy right.

Of course, my main reason to go was to hopefully enjoy one of the beers (done) and pick up a growler of it:



These stainless steel growlers are kinda awesome. I don't think the swingtop is removable, though, which is one downside...I'll have to tinker with it a bit more to see if that's the case. That said, the top is stainless steel with a hard plastic piece inside it, to which the silicone sealing piece slips around. As we worry about long-term viability of the red washers on swingtop growlers, this shouldn't be a concern here. Also, in what I can only describe as an improvement upon the usual swingtop/fliptop pieces on glass growlers, the arc of the swingtop is much tighter which seems to lead to a consistently snug seal, much better compared to the glass versions.

Arnold of Soissons
Mar 4, 2011

by XyloJW

wattershed posted:

As we worry about long-term viability of the red washers on swingtop growlers, this shouldn't be a concern here.

Why are you worried about the red washers wearing out? They cost like 80c to replace.

wattershed
Dec 27, 2002

Radio got his free iPod, did you get yours???

Arnold of Soissons posted:

Why are you worried about the red washers wearing out? They cost like 80c to replace.

I'm not made of money!

bengy81
May 8, 2010

Docjowles posted:

We have a bar in town that does this. Their pricing is very flat so an average strength beer like Fat Tire is $5-6, but then some 9-10% beer like Great Divide Yeti is also $6 and both come in pints. So of course I get the more interesting booze bomb because hey, it's a better value! Suddenly two drinks in I'm hammered :downs:

Please tell me which bar? If I go out in Denver, I mostly go to the Rackhouse, but I am looking for a few new places to try out.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

ShaneB posted:

Saison-Brett is pretty loving perfect. The keg version has pretty tame Brett, but it is an essentially perfect saison. I'm mentally comparing it to saison Dupont, but it's just a tiny bit creamier. I can't wait to hunt down bottles in a month.

It's a very good saison but I was a little disappointed that there wasn't more brett. Agree that I'm gonna need to hunt down bottles though.

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

bengy81 posted:

Please tell me which bar? If I go out in Denver, I mostly go to the Rackhouse, but I am looking for a few new places to try out.

I actually live in Fort Collins so this may not help much, but it's Crankenstein. If you venture there, prepare for hipster invasion on a massive scale, but other than that I really like it and end up there almost every weekend :shobon:

If you are in Denver proper, check out Falling Rock Tap House (duh), Star Bar and Vine St Pub.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002

Phanatic posted:





:swoon:

Where is this and how can I be there?

edit: Tonight's beer is Duchess de Bourgogne because we just marked the 11oz bottles down to $2ea (distributor claims they are discontinued now) so I felt compelled to buy them. All of them. Oh god, so tasty.

Also, my current fridge. Yes, bombers are on their sides, simply because that was the only way to fit enough of them. Fridge holds 50F just fine for a re-wired Craigslist find.

FreelanceSocialist fucked around with this message at 04:00 on May 18, 2012

bengy81
May 8, 2010

Docjowles posted:

I actually live in Fort Collins so this may not help much, but it's Crankenstein. If you venture there, prepare for hipster invasion on a massive scale, but other than that I really like it and end up there almost every weekend :shobon:

If you are in Denver proper, check out Falling Rock Tap House (duh), Star Bar and Vine St Pub.

I am unfortunately not in Denver, I live in Castle Rock and the best I have is Rockyard. They have a couple fantastic beers, and some of their seasonal's are pretty good, I think the winter one was a doppelbock (maybe a RIS, can't remember) that was pretty good.
I buy my homebrew stuff at The brew hut, imho, they are over prices, but I will be damned if Dry Dock isn't my favorite brewery at the moment.

TenaciousTomato
Jul 17, 2007

Interworld and the New Innocence

FreelanceSocialist posted:



:swoon:

That's really all wanted to say, but, today I tried North Coast's Acme IPA. Decent overall, a bit too much of that fresh astringent taste, wasn't terrible but highly doubt I'll ever pick it up again.

Also got raped on a 4-pack of Founders Curmugeon's Old Ale. Gonna be trying that this weekend.

TenaciousTomato fucked around with this message at 04:44 on May 18, 2012

Kraven Moorhed
Jan 5, 2006

So wrong, yet so right.

Soiled Meat

funkybottoms posted:

three years does not make DFH Fort any easier to drink. god, that is a gross loving beer. interestingly, though, a three year old keg of Chocolate Yeti has more hop and chili kick than the year old bottle i drank a few months ago- would this be a result of the kegs being stored at really low temperatures?

Also went to this event, although after funkybottoms was gone. I actually didn't mind the Fort quite as much--not something I'd buy a bomber of, but not a bad dessert beer to sip on for awhile. Kinda wished I'd gone for the Old Rasputin run through a randall of chilis, vanilla, and some other stuff just to have it.

2009 Expedition Stout is still plenty bitter even after three years of age. Bell's must use some kind of super hops or something. Not that it's a bad thing, of course. Meshes will with the rest of the beer, and I actually picked up a slight, peppery burn in the back of my throat after the first few sips were down. Very odd.

My real lesson learned, though, is that I need to get some bottles of Hardywood's Bourbon Cru as soon as possible. poo poo is divine, especially for a first run.

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Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006
I came across Firestone Walker Parabola today at about $22.99 a bottle and I decided to pass on it cause I felt that was a bit more pricey than I was used to.

About an hour later I go into a Whole Foods and at only $14.99

Yeah, in retrospect it wasn't much of a difference. But hey, I get another Bomber out of that price difference.

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