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I dig like fake hardcore (ie: WWE Hardcore division) and ECW Hardcore (brawls and flips and tables and dumb poo poo). Is classic FMW worth a watch or is it totally brutal with nailbeds and barbed wire and exploding stuff?
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May 30, 2012 11:27
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Pretty much every hardcore promotion ever has their big gimmicky deathmatches in the main event and fills the rest of the card with brawls and flips and assorted dumb poo poo. I'd say check out some current BJW stuff instead though, both because the shows are easier to find and because the people doing the brawls & flips are generally more talented than the FMW midcarders.
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May 30, 2012 12:29
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LordPants posted:I dig like fake hardcore (ie: WWE Hardcore division) and ECW Hardcore (brawls and flips and tables and dumb poo poo). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAg_wIDRnG8
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May 30, 2012 12:57
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Okada has impressed the hell out of me during his reign.
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May 30, 2012 14:26
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Illinois Smith posted:Pretty much every hardcore promotion ever has their big gimmicky deathmatches in the main event and fills the rest of the card with brawls and flips and assorted dumb poo poo. BJW is awesome. You got Hoss Offs, juniors action and lots of light tubes. Lots of them.
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May 30, 2012 14:30
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Light tubes are pretty brutal, though. Not many promotions do "light" hardcore that's any good.
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May 30, 2012 16:44
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How does the light tubes thing work, anyway? I was under the impression there was toxic stuff inside them or something and it would be bad if one exploded in your face.
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May 30, 2012 17:19
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Light tubes pieces can cut skin pretty easily, and yes, the dust inside is quite toxic. But hey gotta get those spots in.
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May 30, 2012 17:38
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The light tubes that they use in those matches are non-toxic, but they're still sharp. Depending on the way you hit someone with a florecent tube, it doesn't hurt too badly at all, but it becomes a moot point when there's 30 pounds of glass shards on the mat. I'm sure if these guys were inhaling mercury of that volume every match, they'd be a little more hosed up than having a bunch of scars. There's still mercury in them, unless they're 100% gimmicked and just glass tubes. But not enough that it's going to really bother them I'd guess.
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May 30, 2012 17:42
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Ditch posted:Light tubes are pretty brutal, though. Not many promotions do "light" hardcore that's any good.
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May 30, 2012 17:51
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Here's a random question: anybody know what Hajime Ohara used as his entrance theme in the later events of SMASH?
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May 30, 2012 17:59
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Illinois Smith posted:What I meant is that they don't do more light tube matches than, say, FMW did "exploding _____" matches. The difference is that you can watch every newer BJW show split by match on Dailmymotion and just leave out the stuff that's too gory for you, while for FMW the stuff that's available for free is mostly just exploding ring matches and other crazy main events. Meanwhile, "Strong BJ" has nothing to do with hardcore. So it's not really a fit for LordPants.
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May 30, 2012 18:12
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Ditch posted:There's a fair amount of non-deathmatch FMW out there (ie. Hayabusa, Masato Tanaka) DDT Pro is probably the best route if you're looking for silly hardcore matches. Takagi (The owner) and his bizarre rumble weapon matches (Using people's wives as weapons? Lockers? It's crazy) and the crew who do the "Anywhere" matches at factories, parks, inside of small towns, ect. There's really silly matches too, like the bread-eating deathmatch. DDT Pro is what Crash Holly was in the Hardcore division times 5.
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May 30, 2012 18:17
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Cool, thanks for the help guys, I'll stick with DDT.
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May 31, 2012 03:08
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Are NJPW turning Naito? Is that what the angle was mid match at the BOSJ night one?
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LordPants posted:Are NJPW turning Naito? Is that what the angle was mid match at the BOSJ night one? I thought it was more him and Tanahashi trying to one up each other since both have eyes on Okada. I did notice though that Tanahashi wasn't getting as many calls and seemed to be a bit more prickish.
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Jun 2, 2012 16:43
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Holy poo poo the Zero 1/NOAH tag was intense. It's sad to see Marufuji starting to slow down tho.
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Jun 4, 2012 00:32
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In less than 6 months NJPW has made total stars out of Okada and Goto. Other companies need to pay attention because Dontaku is how you take two guys and put them both over. gently caress Low-Ki though, on a personal level.
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Jun 10, 2012 06:13
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So Goto has finally escaped the shadow of Nakamura and Tanahashi and "second" to them?
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Jun 10, 2012 06:24
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They put him over Tanahashi recently and gave him a shot at Okada. It was pretty awesome. They're really putting some foundations in place.
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Jun 10, 2012 07:36
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LordPants posted:They put him over Tanahashi recently and gave him a shot at Okada. It was pretty awesome. They're really putting some foundations in place.
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Flameingblack posted:In less than 6 months NJPW has made total stars out of Okada and Goto. They've done a nice job reestablishing him but as far as star-making goes, Naito had a way bigger 2012 than him. Illinois Smith fucked around with this message at 11:33 on Jun 10, 2012 |
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Jun 10, 2012 11:30
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BOSJ Final: Taguchi over Pac Ki over Devitt Taguchi over Ki All matches are good but not great. edit: Which was the old Japanese promotion that had the Intergalactic Title?
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Jun 10, 2012 17:17
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Flameingblack posted:A lot of other companies are floundering in their main event scene, afraid to either pull the trigger, or finding someone that clicks with fans. Somehow NJPW has struck gold and found two in a short time. New Japan is right now the smartest wrestling company in the world.
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Jun 10, 2012 17:44
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I dunno, is Goto in a significantly better position than he was in late 2007? He was given a midcard title and keeps having heartbreaking IWGP losses.
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Jun 10, 2012 18:30
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Illinois Smith posted:They could've had Goto be a total star when he returned from his Mexican vacation in 2009 all badass and buff and with tons of momentum. Then they kinda dicked around with him for three years. 
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Jun 10, 2012 18:46
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LordPants posted:BOSJ Final: That is not the outcome I expected.  Also, everyone tweet Prince Devitt(@fergaldevitt) asking when he's gonna be selling merch.
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coconono posted:That is not the outcome I expected. It's the same way they've booked the BOSJ since 2007.
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Ditch posted:I dunno, is Goto in a significantly better position than he was in late 2007? He was given a midcard title and keeps having heartbreaking IWGP losses. All I know is I love the guy now. 
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Jun 10, 2012 22:27
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For me it's mostly the switch to those samurai pants. That looks owns.
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Jun 10, 2012 22:36
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And the rumor is that Low Ki managed to take out BOTH members of Apollo 55 today. Devitt with his knee (probably was his own fault on the double stomp) and Taguchi fought through with a legit eye thing. 
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Look at 2004 and all the great guys who were on the indies. Low-Ki hasn't gone anywhere since then and still thinks he's tough poo poo. I think the only other guy from that period who hasn't gone on to major TNA or WWE title runs is Super Dragon, who owns part of PWG and has been injured for the past couple years.
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Jun 11, 2012 01:31
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Illinois Smith posted:For me it's mostly the switch to those samurai pants. That looks owns.
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Jun 11, 2012 05:35
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Ditch posted:This cannot be stressed enough. How long has he had that gear? It's awesome.
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Jun 11, 2012 19:24
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If I remember right, he debuted it a year ago when he last challenged Tanahashi for the belt. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xnryx4_hiroshi-tanahashi-vs-hirooki-goto-njpw_sport?search_algo=1
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IVP posted:The FREE weekly download of the week is the Best of Misawa vs. Kawada V.7. Not only is the download free, the DVD is available for the low cost of one penny! If you want to get some other DVDs with the order use the coupon code Misawa to get 25% off! What a deal, please spread the word. Here are the match listings on this amazing disc. http://new.ivpvideos2.com/product_info.php?products_id=8290
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Jun 12, 2012 11:17
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That's a super deal! I just got paid so I'm probably going to order some more FMW stuff, 25% off helps quite a bit, the prices are great already.
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Jun 12, 2012 12:22
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If you aren't buying from IVP, you're a terrible person. Its dirt cheap and there's TONS of cool stuff.
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Jun 12, 2012 14:01
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And I uploaded a ton of discs there (like... 1% of the catalog), so I get a (small) cut of that action!
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Ditch posted:And I uploaded a ton of discs there (like... 1% of the catalog), so I get a (small) cut of that action! Io Shirai and NOSAWA are out of jail on bail, but the investigation isn't over. Kind hope that they just ship NOSAWA back to jail forever. FOWEEEEWWWAAAAAA
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